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Title: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: WimB on November 26, 2013, 03:01:12 PM
The new seedlist of Bjørnar Olsen is online, for those interested in special Chinese plants :D: http://trillium.no/ (http://trillium.no/)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: John Aipassa on November 26, 2013, 07:27:29 PM
Thank you Wim. I have seen the list this afternoon and made my order 8).
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Leena on November 27, 2013, 08:14:09 AM
Thank you Wim. I have seen the list this afternoon and made my order 8).

Me too. :)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 27, 2013, 09:19:52 AM
...and there are some lovely things to get ;D ;D
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Post by: Yann on November 27, 2013, 12:40:58 PM
Yes some nice Lilium, i also ordered.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Diane Whitehead on November 27, 2013, 06:20:24 PM
Have any of you ordered before?

Do the seeds arrive safely?
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 27, 2013, 06:36:12 PM
Yes and yes here.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Maggi Young on November 27, 2013, 06:38:20 PM
Bjørnar  is forumist "arisaema"- he used to live in Norway but has been in China for a couple of years now.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Philippe on November 27, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Hi Diane

You can absolutely trust Bjornar's seeds and himself too. Upper quality, with great germination rates, very "professional" indeed, in my opinion in every aspect far more better than others I would not name ::)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Diane Whitehead on November 27, 2013, 06:45:07 PM
Wonderful!  Thank you all.  And PayPal makes it so easy to pay.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: John Aipassa on November 28, 2013, 02:23:37 PM
When he lived in Norway, he once gave me one of his Meconopsis delavayi plants. Such a lovely gesture.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: WivekaR on December 04, 2013, 10:00:24 AM
What a great list, I will treat myself with 16 species for Christmas gift.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on December 04, 2013, 11:36:59 AM
Thanks for the kind words!  :) I've been busy packing seeds here, the first 71 orders are done, and I hope to get the remaining 40 posted next week.

The local post office decided to be difficult (scary foreigner sending scary seeds :P), so I'm shipping the seeds through Hong Kong. It takes about a week from Chengdu to Hong Kong, and roughly 2 weeks for the seeds to reach Europe, so I'm hoping most of you will have received the seeds by Christmas.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 12, 2013, 10:15:05 AM
I'm very pleased to say that mine have arrived safely this morning, something to cheer us up before Christmas ;D
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on December 13, 2013, 08:49:23 PM
Mine arrived safely today.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Yann on December 20, 2013, 09:50:40 PM
Seeds arrived yesterday, it was very fast from HK.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Leena on December 21, 2013, 08:14:29 AM
My seeds had also arrived last week.. like a Christmas present. :)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on January 15, 2014, 05:03:37 PM
All short lived seeds are now half price, I'm going on vacation in 10 days, and want to sell out as many of them as possible while they are still fully viable  :) I'm also pleased to say a customer tested the viability of Primula agleniana, 7 out of 11 seeds germinated after being treated with GA-3.

The sale includes all Aconitum, Anemone, Cardiocrinum, Clematis, Crawfurdia, Dicentra, Meconopsis, Omphalogramma, Panax, Primula, Stellera, Thalictrum and the Umbelliferae, in addition to Iris barbatula, Lilium ?souliei and L. yapingense.

http://trillium.no/ (http://trillium.no/)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on April 07, 2014, 08:28:59 AM
Quick note to say all seeds are now half price, with ephemerals 75% off :)

I've also listed some rice grain bulbils of Fritillaria davidii collected at Xiling Xueshan last week. The bulbs grew rather exposed, so I was able to collect them with minimal disturbance of the mother bulbs.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: P. Kohn on January 03, 2015, 12:59:17 PM
We too ordered seeds and they arrived safely today. We ordered a single species last year (Lilium henrici), This year a larger order, one or two items being unavailable by the time we spotted the new list. Will report on germination success.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Maggi Young on May 27, 2015, 05:47:11 PM
Just posted by an SRGC member on Facebook -
" flowering from Bjornar's 2013/14 seed. Really pleased with the huge size of the flowers. Primula agleniana alba."

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Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: P. Kohn on September 30, 2015, 01:22:01 PM
I promised to report back on germination success with seeds from this source. We ordered 11 species of which eight have germinated, I don't expect Clintonias to germinate until the second year, and the Meconopsis wilsonii was probably my fault as I  moved my meconopsis pots with my other seed pots into the conservatory this year which was definitely a mistake. For wild-collected seed I regard this as a fantastic success rate - much better than any other wild collected material that I have tried.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Afloden on September 30, 2015, 08:33:26 PM
I've had great germination on Polygonatum, Thalictrum, Clematis, Cautleya, and probably way too good on the Hedychium. I wish I could grow all the alpine Lilium and Meconopsis in my too hot climate.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: mark smyth on October 01, 2015, 01:05:47 PM
I bought a lot of Geranium seeds from trillium.no but germination has been very poor. Anyone else buy Geranium seeds?
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on October 01, 2015, 01:38:53 PM
Did you get some germination, or none at all? I had feedback from one customer who got a few plants of every Geranium on last year's list, and another (2013) who didn't get any plants at all - but the latter also bought garden seeds of G. delavayi, which I know were viable, so I'm wondering if it could have been partly bad luck with winter/spring. Geranium are near impossible to collect in the wild, so if most people fail it's easier just not collecting them, I've really only bothered because it's a genus that used to interest me.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on October 01, 2015, 01:49:13 PM
Thanks for the feedback! The only seeds I know for a fact have been bad are Arisaema, turns out seeds of the alpine ones in sect. Arisaema cannot survive drying out, which no one sadly seemed to have realized until this spring :( Everything else is all over the place, with some people getting near 100% germination and others none at all.

I'd be interested to hear feedback from those who bought the following:

Geranium - see other thread

Acers - these germinated like crazy in my fridge, but that doesn't necessarily mean they can take three weeks shipping.

Lilium yapingense - from both 2013 and 2014. I know some had very good germination on these, while other excellent growers had none.

Souliea vaginata

Addendum: ...and Clematis
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Susan Band on October 01, 2015, 06:29:16 PM
I had 100% on geranium pylzowianum BO-14-078. But I am ashamed to say I let them dry out and killed them before they were potted. Sorry Bjornar 😟
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: mark smyth on October 01, 2015, 06:47:27 PM
I took photos of each pot and will show them later
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: mark smyth on October 01, 2015, 06:55:53 PM
the pot contents
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: mark smyth on October 01, 2015, 06:56:31 PM
and the last two
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on October 02, 2015, 03:17:26 AM
Thank you, Mark, that is an unfortunate result... I know the Lilium lophophorum were viable so I'll put that down to bad luck with weather, but it seems I can scratch Geranium off the list.

Geranium in general ripen too unevenly - and G. delavayi usually only have one or two stems on a plant - so I've picked the whole stems and let them dry before cleaning. The seeds have looked viable, but I fear some may have been immature - and with no other practical way to collect it they are probably better left where they are.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Growild on October 02, 2015, 08:31:12 AM
Please don't give up on them yet Mark, they may need another winter.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Rick R. on October 02, 2015, 03:25:06 PM
I did not have any success with 2014 Lilium yapingense seed, but I am very happy with your seeds, Bjørnar.  We are lucky to have you as a seed source, as well as an active member of this forum!
Most other results are successful:
2014 seed
Lilium cf. henrici BO-14-091 Yunnan - none
Lilium georgei (saccatum) BO-14-094 Yunnan - excellent. They waited for a heavy rainstorm.
Lilium henrici BO-14-095 Yunnan - none
Lilium henrici BO-14-096  - good
Lilium lankongense BO-14-097 Yunnan - good
Lilium yapingense BO-14-103 Yunnan - none
Nomocharis farreri BO-14-116 - excellent
Nomocharis forrestii BO-14-117     (aperta) - excellent
Nomocharis forrestii BO-14-118 Yunnan  (aperta) - excellent

2013 seed (planted and emerged in 2014)
Lilium henrici  col. Yunnan BO-13-053 - good
Lilium lophophorum col.Sichuan BO-13-055 - good
Lilium souliei? col.Yunnan BO-13-057 - good
Nomocharis farreri col.Yunnan BO-13-072 - excellent
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on October 02, 2015, 03:43:03 PM
Thanks, Rick! L. yapingense is one of those species that just don't make sense, I received an email from another forumist this morning:

Quote
Data for Lilium yapingense.
 
You gave me some seeds(Thank you) in my November order 2013, sowed 18 seeds 26/12/13 no data on germination left outdoors, but 12 shoots 24/5/15
 
I ordered BO-13-058 Jan 2014, test sowed 8 seeds on agar at room temp 12/3/14, all 8 germinated before 22/4/14 (No GA3 used), rest sowed in pot and left outside - no data
 
I ordered BO-14-103 November 2014 sow about 270 seeds 23/3/15 indoors room temp.1st seed germinated 18/5/15, 48 germinated by 9/6/15, tray then put outside.

How did you sow yours, inside or outside?
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Gabriela on October 02, 2015, 08:24:55 PM
I have no experience with Chinese Lilium but I'm interested and reading everything seeds & germination so regarding L. yapingense - the note saying " test sowed 8 seeds on agar at room temp 12/3/14, all 8 germinated before 22/4/14 (No GA3 used) rest sowed in pot and left outside - no data"  made me think: what if it requires some mycorrhizal association for germination? (probably a crazy idea but...)
The idea came from the fact that few of the sowing mixes contain mycorrhiza (which would explain various results obtain by people) plus that I used to do in vitro culture including sowing (in a former life  ;)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Rick R. on October 02, 2015, 11:47:04 PM
I had about 9 seeds of L. yapingense that I sowed inside at 60-65°F (16-18°C), seed lightly raked into the surface as Ian Young does for Frits and Lilies, covered with 5mm or so of granite grit.  I also planted 14 seeds (same method) outside in early May. 

Ll. lankongense, georgei and Nomocharis spp. germinated in both scenarios.  L. henrici only outside.  Last season I only sowed in pots outside.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Susan Band on October 03, 2015, 08:12:58 AM
As a general rule I find that Lilium seed from the region Bjornar is collecting (hengduan mountains) needs at least 10C to germinate. I sow in Jan/Feb frost free tunnel and the usually germinate by March. The exception was BO-13 henricii which didn't germinate until this Feb. No problems with yapingense germination but I lost most over winter. This year's henricii have mostly germinated but still some good seed left.
Gabriela, I sow the Americans at the beginning of December, they seem to need 0-10C Any hotter or later they wont germinate immediately. The seed of L Philadelphicum I got from you last year are lovely little plants.
Susan
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Susan Band on October 03, 2015, 08:33:42 AM
One of the Lilium yapingense has grown an extra large leaf. Do you think it means it is going to flower😀 Hope so. I am keeping the survivors frost free this winter as insurance.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on October 03, 2015, 10:58:14 AM
Susan; Did georgei and henrici take the freeze that killed off yapingense? I'm not sure how cold the winters down there actually get, although I do know summers are soaking wet and can be uncomfortably cold...
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Tony Willis on October 03, 2015, 11:47:32 AM
I got no germination on the lilies/nomocharis purchased 2014 but they all came up this spring 2015. This years seed has not germinated and I expect it to do so in spring 2016.

My friend who has different interests sowed the 2015 purchased  androsace and saxifrage seed this year and has great germination and lovely plants. His nomocharis have also not germinated yet.

Clearly it is not the seed but both of us who have not sorted out the correct method yet.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Susan Band on October 03, 2015, 11:53:05 AM
I think it was probably because the bulbs were small although growing well. The were in a polytunnel but not covered with insulation. The Georgei were just as small but survived. The henricii was still ungerminated,in it's seed trays  and frost free. The few that had germinated were in a pot in the frost free tunnel.  The nomocharis farreri were in the tunnel and they are great and will flower next year I am sure. I will probably cover all this years seedlings with insulation this winter. I am sure once They are planted they will be okay. The trouble with the polystyrene boxes is that there is no heat from the ground.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Maggi Young on November 22, 2015, 08:58:07 PM
Bjørnar Olsen's latest list will be on his website later in the month  keep your eyes peeled!

 He says : "The seed list itself is finally done, with 325 seed collections spanning 8 provinces, 221 of them collected this autumn. I'm working on getting it all online, it should hopefully be by the end of this month. There's a lot of new stuff, a fair bit of rare stuff in tiny quantities - including two yet unintroduced lilies and some nice species bought from Xinjiang - and of course the regulars like Meconopsis, Omphalogramma and Souliea." 
http://trillium.no/ (http://trillium.no/)

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Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: P. Kohn on December 01, 2015, 03:31:36 PM
I also had nine germinations from nine seeds with G pylzowianum from Trillium.no. Generally had much more success with the Trillium seeds than with other wild collected Himalayan seeds.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Susan Band on December 01, 2015, 04:13:16 PM
Are you sure nothing ate the seed, they are very tasty to mice and chaffinches.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: mark smyth on December 01, 2015, 08:40:45 PM
Nothing ate my seeds. I'll not be buying from them again
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Menai on December 01, 2015, 11:02:00 PM
I still have 4 plants of G. pylzowianum growing - a lot more germinated but I lost them from irregular watering. Also 1 only Lilium lophophorum
I'm a sucker for Geraniaciae so would be sorry if you scrapped them.
Looking forward to next list

Erle
Anglesey
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Tony Willis on December 02, 2015, 11:40:23 AM
Nothing ate my seeds. I'll not be buying from them again

That will leave more for those of us who think the seeds are excellent!
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: GordonT on December 02, 2015, 12:09:53 PM
I didn't buy Geranium seeds, but bought Arisaema pianmaense, Arisaema sp. Dulong, Podophyllum hexandrum sichuan Kanding Mugeco Lake. None of the Arisaema seeds germinated, but the Podophyllum had close to 100% germination, and the seedlings are now out in the garden, ready to go through their first Canadian winter.

Has anyone had better results with Arisaema seed from trillium.no?
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Gabriela on December 02, 2015, 06:28:44 PM
Nothing ate my seeds. I'll not be buying from them again

When collecting seeds in the wild is not that easy to assess the maturity of fruits/seeds. Plus, that from exactly the same batch of seeds, some could germinate and some not. Few seeds can carry abnormal embryos or enter a deep dormancy, while others not…
These are all factors out of the collector’s hands. 

I couldn’t abstain to intervene, because I find this ‘finger pointing’ unexpected (on this forum of knowledgeable people) and also quite discouraging.
The effort and passion involved in wild collecting seeds goes beyond any financial rewards, even in the best of cases.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Gabriela on December 02, 2015, 06:32:06 PM
I didn't buy Geranium seeds, but bought Arisaema pianmaense, Arisaema sp. Dulong, Podophyllum hexandrum sichuan Kanding Mugeco Lake. None of the Arisaema seeds germinated, but the Podophyllum had close to 100% germination, and the seedlings are now out in the garden, ready to go through their first Canadian winter.

Has anyone had better results with Arisaema seed from trillium.no?

A few Arisaema sp. have germination only with protocorm (like A. thunbergii var. urashima), and maybe few species not that much grown from seeds should be added on the list. Did you looked inside the pots?
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Susan Band on December 03, 2015, 08:34:55 AM
Gabriela, did you see my comment on another thread. The Lilium michiaganense and canadense have made small bulbs,  sown in perlite in the bags and kept in the house. The only problem is that I sowed half in trays outside so I now have seed trays as well as bags in the living room. Susan
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: art600 on December 03, 2015, 09:21:36 AM
When collecting seeds in the wild is not that easy to assess the maturity of fruits/seeds. Plus, that from exactly the same batch of seeds, some could germinate and some not. Few seeds can carry abnormal embryos or enter a deep dormancy, while others not…
These are all factors out of the collector’s hands. 

I couldn’t abstain to intervene, because I find this ‘finger pointing’ unexpected (on this forum of knowledgeable people) and also quite discouraging.
The effort and passion involved in wild collecting seeds goes beyond any financial rewards, even in the best of cases.

Gabriela

Well said.

I found the remarks unthinking and insulting.

I do not have success with every seed I buy - have never managed to germinate Trillium, but I continue to try.

My success with Fritillaria is intermiitent even though seed has been wild collected by me - must stop using this collector!

Arthur
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Susan Band on December 03, 2015, 10:35:48 AM
Arthur. Frit seed is best not stored in the fridge until it has been left lying around for a while. I find Trillium seed is best sown in bags with perlite and then stored in the fridge until they finally start to move. If you can sow it fresh this usually happens about Christmas when the bags can be moved into the house for a while then sown as normal. There are so many factors in getting seed to germinate. My aim at the moment is to try and find 3-4 different standard methods for Lilium. Susan
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Maggi Young on December 03, 2015, 12:46:46 PM
Ian is always saying  in the Bulb Log  that seed from bulbous plants (especially ) should not be refrigerated immediately after  collecting because it needs a further period of development at that time.

All sorts of reasons why seed  may not be viable  - before and after sowing!
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: art600 on December 03, 2015, 03:14:55 PM
Thanks Susan for the advice


All sorts of reasons why seed  may not be viable  - before and after sowing!

Maggi - so true, but not recognised by everyone.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Tony Willis on December 03, 2015, 05:59:24 PM
I and my friend who I share purchases with have had different results on the same species and so  failure is sometimes due the incompetence of the grower not the seed collector.

I also thought the comment quite insulting.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: johnw on December 03, 2015, 06:08:52 PM
When collecting seeds in the wild is not that easy to assess the maturity of fruits/seeds.

Well said Gabriela.  It's a privilege to get seeds collected in the wilds of China and the collector as you say gets but one chance.  And this is to say nothing of the incredible planning, trekking and travel involved as well as the cost.  I will keep buying Lilium souliei every year until I have long term success, germination or no germination.  Support the reputable collector.

johnw

Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Gabriela on December 03, 2015, 08:55:19 PM
It's a privilege to get seeds collected in the wilds of China and the collector as you say gets but one chance.  And this is to say nothing of the incredible planning, trekking and travel involved as well as the cost.  I will keep buying Lilium souliei every year until I have long term success, germination or no germination.  Support the reputable collector.

johnw

Of course! And even more, there is so much variation from one year to another regarding the time they reach maturity.
Regardless of the germination, holding in my hand a seed from a remote, wild location that I may never get to visit, is worth a thousand times more than in reality.
It's what I call 'seed traveling'  :)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Karaba on December 03, 2015, 09:14:15 PM
And the seeds that I collected are 'seed souvenir'   ;D. My garden is full of these souvenirs of holidays or people and I'm very sad when I lose one of these.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: P. Kohn on December 04, 2015, 08:22:28 AM
I sowed more of the meconopsis integrifolia seeds from last year's seeds and got very good and speedy germination (germination was also faster last year than all my other meconopsis species and cultivars). Am eagerly awaiting this year's list - promised late November so overdue.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: GordonT on December 04, 2015, 11:40:12 AM
Gabriela  and all: I do hope my comments are not taken as finger pointing, it was not my intent. I collect seeds myself, and know it is often difficult to determine when the seed is mature enough to be viable. I have had challenges with only a few Arisaema species from several sources(mainly Arisaema griffithii, and Arisaema nepenthoides). I have come to believe that seeds of some species lose viability with dry storage. I did check the pots, and it looks like the seed rotted away. In any case, I haven't discarded the  pots, in case there are some surprises next year. I am slowly building a collection of the genus from seed sown plants (amurense, candidissimum, ciliatum, ciliatum var liubaense, consanguineum, costatum, erubescens, fargesii,flavum, griffithii var. pradhanii,jacquemontii, nepenthoides, ovatum, sikokianum, tortuosum. Still looking for Arisaema heterophyllum, serratum var mayebarae, speciosum, utile and others.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on December 06, 2015, 08:09:55 AM
Has anyone had better results with Arisaema seed from trillium.no?

The Arisaema seeds have been problematic, "common knowledge" up until last year seemed to be that all Arisaema in sect. Arisaema could withstand drying out. That, as many of you discovered, is not the case.  :P Only those who ordered and received their seeds at the very start of last season seemed to get any germination.

I've tried moist packing them this season, and if that doesn't help I will have to drop this genus as well.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Yann on December 06, 2015, 08:33:08 AM
last i ordered from you Arisaema dilatatum, i put them in vermiculite mixture, placed 2 weeks in the fridge and 60-70% germinated. Afterthat i took the seedlings and put them in pot with a 1-1-1 vermiculite-perlite-grit. Same treatment for Trillium.

The disavantage of this method is the needing of fertilizer but it works for me.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Hoy on December 13, 2015, 05:18:19 PM
Hei Bjørnar,

blir det noen liste før jul?

 (- any seedlist before Xmas-)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on December 14, 2015, 04:44:30 AM
I'm slowly getting there, gone from A to N in three days, so I'm hoping it will be done sometime this week :P Changing from Paypal's own shopping cart system to Tinycart, which is loads of extra work this season, but should speed things up next year.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Susan Band on December 14, 2015, 11:20:18 AM
You've done the important ones, the lilies 😊
Susan
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Maggi Young on December 14, 2015, 01:31:45 PM
 
You've done the important ones, the lilies 😊
Susan
    Tee Hee!
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Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: P. Kohn on December 14, 2015, 03:12:27 PM
Like Susan, waiting impatiently, especially for the lilies.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Matt T on December 18, 2015, 01:10:41 PM
Forumists will be pleased to hear that Bjornar's much-anticipated seed list is now available:
http://trillium.no/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1 (http://trillium.no/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Maggi Young on December 18, 2015, 01:18:16 PM
Thanks Matt, I was just headed here with the same message from Bjørnar  :)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on December 18, 2015, 01:21:48 PM
Finally got it online, sorry for both the delay and the unfinished look - I am getting orders, so at least it's working!

http://trillium.no/shop (http://trillium.no/shop)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Matt T on December 18, 2015, 01:21:50 PM
Wanted to share the good news after placing a small order myself, although someone was even quicker off the mark than I was, as mine is order #2 ;)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Hoy on December 20, 2015, 10:06:02 AM
It is too tempting, Bjørnar! Får vi rabatt ;D
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: fermi de Sousa on December 20, 2015, 12:26:24 PM
It is too tempting, Bjørnar! Får vi rabatt ;D
A discount? For being early or being Forumists? ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on December 20, 2015, 12:56:46 PM
Did anyone else experience difficulty with PayPal? I clicked the checkout with PayPal button and the page came up in Chinese.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Hoy on December 20, 2015, 01:34:41 PM
A discount? For being early or being Forumists? ;D
cheers
fermi

Neither - but for using a lot of money :o
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Hoy on December 20, 2015, 01:37:38 PM
Did anyone else experience difficulty with PayPal? I clicked the checkout with PayPal button and the page came up in Chinese.

I experienced the same but it worked when I made an account and logged on.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Olive Mason on December 20, 2015, 01:54:35 PM
I clicked on 'translate' and it came up in English
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Lewis Potter on December 25, 2015, 10:31:36 PM
I was looking forward to seeing Primula agleniana, but oh well, I see if it is there next year.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: KenC on January 13, 2016, 02:10:01 PM
Has anybody received their seed orders yet?  No recent posts from Bjornar here or on his Facebook page.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Maggi Young on January 13, 2016, 02:18:49 PM
I think I did see  a Facebook message from him the other day about being very busy and hoping seed would be sent out soon-  I wondered at thetime if he would post here - and of course, F/Book being  F/book  I cannot find the message again, since I don't remember what group it may have been made to.   :-\

 Edit -   found it! It was on his Tillium.no page , not his personal one : https://www.facebook.com/trilliumno/ (https://www.facebook.com/trilliumno/)

 Bobo wrote ( yesterday )
I am overwhelmed with work right now, and I am afraid I have to prioritize sending out orders over replying emails. I have sent out over 80 envelopes, including some massive orders, so far, and hope to catch up with the backlog by the end of January.

For those of you who get the Paypal page in Chinese - please log into your account at Paypal.com first - then the payment page will be in your account's language when you check out.

The early bird orders should receive an email with their tracking number from Paypal today or tomorrow. Someone in Sweden said they were going away on vacation, can this person please email me again? Gmail has made a complete and utter mess of sorting my emails, and I cannot find the message you sent me.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on January 14, 2016, 03:40:16 AM
I'm sorry it's taking so long, juggling seeds alongside the newly opened wine store - with Christmas and New Year's in between - has been a bit of a challenge... I'll reach order #100 today, and hope to have caught up with the backlog by the end of the month. The first orders have thankfully started to arrive, and I will get tracking numbers and any refunds for sold out species added through PayPal as soon as I've filled another box with envelopes.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: P. Kohn on January 14, 2016, 10:18:29 AM
Thanks for keeping us posted on progress. Just begining to worry that seeds had not arrived. Be good to get things sown now we are getting proper winter temperatures.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Susan Band on January 15, 2016, 12:50:28 PM
Packages starting to arrive here.  ;D
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on January 24, 2016, 06:45:24 AM
Orders up to #174 have now been posted - with the exception of "small lots", Australia and NZ, I will spend a day on those this week. Please allow a few days for me to add tracking numbers and do refunds, Chinese New Year is coming up, and I would like to prioritize packing and shipping  :)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: melager on January 28, 2016, 08:53:09 AM
Yann

that was very interesting to hear how you germinated your Arisaema seed in the Fridge or at least started your arisaema in the fridge, must try that method,

Mel
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: melager on January 28, 2016, 08:56:08 AM
oh and by the way I love trillium no seeds and Oron's and Pilous Kurt's the list could go on but I am having a mental block of names so sorry to any of my favorites I have forgotten, cause I know there is more, wonderful seed lists fantastic.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on February 01, 2016, 03:09:37 PM
Time for another update: I got about 200 orders sent off before the Chinese new year holiday begun, 75 orders remain, and will be posted as soon as the offices open again on the 16th. If this is too late, then please email me, and I am happy to refund your order in full  (sometime over the next few days).

All orders that have been posted should have received an email from Paypal containing the tracking number, and many of you will have received a second email with a small refund - the sold out seeds will be specified, look for a collection number (e.g. "14-030").

I'm sorry it has taken so long to process this year's orders, the seed list has grown so popular that I have a hard time keeping up. You'd think hiring cheap help in China would be easy, but that, sadly, is quite far from the truth - thus I'm the one doing practically everything, from collecting the seeds to adding the final refunds in Paypal.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: majallison on February 01, 2016, 07:47:19 PM
Very pleased with the seeds that arrived on Saturday, I have sown  most of them today. I never thought I'd be so excited to receive a packet of dandelion seed (tho' it is Taraxacum lilacinum).
Thank you Bjoernar!
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Hoy on February 01, 2016, 10:12:20 PM
I got the seeds before the paypal email. Seeds arrived Friday, email today!

Thanks for a generous allocation, Bjørnar ;)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Growild on February 07, 2016, 06:11:55 PM
I moist packed seeds of Geranium refractum on the 16th of Jan and they are germinating today - so please do not exclude Geranium in your future seed lists Bobo  :)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Hans J on February 10, 2016, 02:13:14 PM
I'm deeply dissapointet  :-[

No - not about Björnar ...but ordering for german People in other continents is really a problem
I got a confirmation about my order and a tracking numer that it is underway from Hongkomg to Germany ( 31.Jan.2016 )
After this time the tracking site makes no Progress - so I have decided yesterday ( 09.Feb ) to call a german Special Hotline for missed parcels/letters
Those People are very friendly and helpful ...but the result is very bad  :o
They told me that my parcel has arrived Germany via flight on 01.Febr. since this time it is lost
Normaly parcel get a new tracking number from DHL and than it goes to the custom ...
The Hotline People told me I can do nothing ....now the seller must make a search query
I have written Björnar the Problem and I hope he can find anything ( but I have only few hope )
It seems other Germans have a similar Problem and I'm really envious when I read that other friends have received her orders without any Problems - it makes no fun ordering outside Europe

I have written yesterday to another friend who has ordered - the answer came promptly:
Lost in Transportion ( she is also awaiting a parcel from Björnar )

Sure - I will get back my money if the parcel not arrive ...but I would be more interested for seeds ( and later interesting plants ) than for Money ( it has not so nice flowers )

 ::) ::) ::)
Hans
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on February 10, 2016, 02:33:34 PM
Sorry to hear about your problems. Delivery to the UK seems to be trouble-free and I have my seeds - all my order except one sold out.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Hans J on February 10, 2016, 02:36:41 PM
Ralph ,

Yes - I know friends from UK got her orders without Problem

Next time ....
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Tony Willis on February 10, 2016, 02:50:41 PM
Hans that is very disappointing. I see mine arrived at Heathrow on the 8th and so hopefully should arrive in the next couple of days
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Hans J on February 10, 2016, 02:53:41 PM
 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on February 11, 2016, 07:16:50 AM
They told me that my parcel has arrived Germany via flight on 01.Febr. since this time it is lost
Normaly parcel get a new tracking number from DHL and than it goes to the custom ...
The Hotline People told me I can do nothing ....now the seller must make a search query

I'll reply your email later once I get the final orders packed, but I'm afraid the reality is there's nothing I can do on my end other than wait for a month or so, then refund the order in full. If it wasn't so late I would have resent the seeds, but by the time we know for sure the package is lost it will be March. The upside(?) is that this has happened several times with letters to Germany, and they have eventually all arrived, it just seem to take forever...
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Sibylle H on February 12, 2016, 10:29:06 AM
I have just received my seeds!   ;D
12 day after they reached Germany!
And the tracking number is still unknown at DHL. ::)

Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on February 12, 2016, 12:05:59 PM
I have just received my seeds!   ;D
12 day after they reached Germany!
And the tracking number is still unknown at DHL. ::)

That's a relief, then hopefully Hans's seeds are right around the corner!
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Hans J on February 12, 2016, 12:45:51 PM
Hi Björnar ,

we can relax :)
Just have arrived here also your parcel with the seeds - many thanks
Many thanks for your work and also for the nice extra seeds

So I can start with sowing this Weekend

All the best
Hans
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Tristan_He on February 19, 2016, 06:00:09 PM
Still no sign of mine, or an email that it has been dispatched. No answer via the website either when I enquired. :(
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: arisaema on February 21, 2016, 09:43:59 AM
It was sent on the 16th as noted on the web page and here on the forum - and all refunds and tracking numbers were done and added today. I started writing a long rant about the utterly useless Paypal web page, but I'll save that for another time...
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Tristan_He on February 21, 2016, 04:08:26 PM
Thanks Bjornar, received the email today. Looking forward to getting the seeds. Best, Tristan
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Eirik on March 03, 2016, 07:15:50 AM
I got good germination on Geranium-seed from trillium.no. I store in fridge ,and sow in late winter/early spring inside at 5-10°C, sligtly moist. Most seed germinate when temperature rise to 10-15 in a few weeks. I don't think the Himalayan Geranium-seed tolerate too wet and cold. I hope some Geranium-seed still might be available in future lists.
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Tristan_He on March 04, 2016, 12:47:52 PM
Arrived safely today Bjornar, many thanks and also for the free seed - the postman had to struggle through the snow to deliver them. But what is 14-084? Not on my order or on your website any more.

Best,
Tristan
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: TheOnionMan on March 05, 2016, 01:36:40 AM
The photo of Allium mairei (see enlarged view) looks like it's actually Allium prattii.

http://trillium.no/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=121 (http://trillium.no/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=121)
Title: Re: Seedlist Bjørnar Olsen
Post by: Eirik on March 05, 2016, 08:02:22 PM
Bobo; seeds of arisaema sect. arisaema are germinating nicely, (BO-15-030/034), the moist packing must have worked.
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