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Title: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 25, 2013, 02:09:27 PM
This snowdrop is listed in the recently published "A Gardener's Guide to Snowdrops" by Freda Cox where she describes it, without illustration, "Vigorous. Large, slim, elegant flowers. Outer segments marked green to around half of segment. Inner segment heavy green mark at apex diffusing across segment. Often two scapes. David and Ruby Baker, Ireland, 1995"

The Irish connection interested me. I see it listed in http://www.zauber-pflanzen.de/galanthus_sorten_hybriden_k_z.html (http://www.zauber-pflanzen.de/galanthus_sorten_hybriden_k_z.html) where 'Kenworth' is listed as a synonym and in http://www.fieldofblooms.ie/product-list/ (http://www.fieldofblooms.ie/product-list/) but did no come across it anywhere else.

It was not listed in Gunter Waldorf's nor Hanneke van Dijk's books, nor in Snowdrops.

Any thoughts?


Another one listed is G. 'Betty Fraser' ..."Distinctive Irish snowdrop.....Betty Fraser's garden". I can find no reference to it anywhere else.

Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Maggi Young on October 25, 2013, 02:20:08 PM
I haven't heard from forumist "Geebo"  (Guy de Schrijver of Field of Blooms nursery) for ages, Paddy, but I'm sure he'd be  happy to share any info he has ..... you could send him and Maureen my good wishes at the same time!
guy2002@eircom.net
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 25, 2013, 02:28:10 PM
I'll pass on your good wishes, Maggi, and have asked Guy  about this but no reply as of yet. Paddy
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: mark smyth on October 25, 2013, 02:36:13 PM
Betty Fraser is a fabulous chunky elwesii. On a warm day the outers don't open from the claw base but from where the claw 'joins' the outer.
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 25, 2013, 04:09:33 PM
Thank you, Mark. Can you tell who Betty Fraser is, where she lives etc - not that I intend calling, purely for information.
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on October 25, 2013, 04:43:13 PM
Paddy, the description (fieldsofbloom) of KEDWORTH sounds  like the description of KILDARE.
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 25, 2013, 05:09:19 PM
Certainly, Hagen, the phrase "found while lost in Ireland" is always trotted out when 'Kildare' is mentioned. It seems that Mr. and Mrs. Baker might have been lost for longer than originally thought.
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: mark smyth on October 25, 2013, 05:37:51 PM
My photo was taken in 2009. I cant remember where
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 25, 2013, 05:44:38 PM
Many thanks again, Mark. Have you any idea who Betty Fraser was or where she was from?

Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Matt Bishop on October 25, 2013, 06:05:58 PM
Hello Paddy,

Suffice to say that I know nothing of 'Kedworth'. Neither does Ruby Baker. Best I stop there.

Regards,

Matt
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 25, 2013, 07:22:09 PM
Thank you for your comments, Matt. As I approach the end of this book I find my eyebrows have been raised a great many times.
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: emma T on October 25, 2013, 09:25:42 PM
Glad I haven't bought that particular book
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Carolyn Walker on October 28, 2013, 12:17:13 AM
Thank you for your comments, Matt. As I approach the end of this book I find my eyebrows have been raised a great many times.

I was thinking of buying the book after it was recommended elsewhere on the forum.  It is quite expensive though and I would love to hear some members assessments of it, both good and bad.
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 30, 2013, 11:29:55 AM
Carolyn, I would comment that there are many inaccuracies in the comments on the snowdrops described there. A disappointment.
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Carolyn Walker on October 31, 2013, 12:24:35 AM
Carolyn, I would comment that there are many inaccuracies in the comments on the snowdrops described there. A disappointment.

Thanks, Paddy.  It is so tempting to buy any new snowdrop book to feed the addiction.  I was contacted by a woman from the UK who is researching (I  always like when they do that before they write) a book on the history of individual snowdrops, who discovered them, where, etc.  She sounded very thorough, and I look forward to the book because I love that there is so much known history about snowdrops.  She said it may be done in three years.
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 03, 2013, 03:04:32 PM
That sounds interesting.
I think there is a book on snowdrops coming from Timber Press in the next year or so.
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: WimB on November 04, 2013, 07:42:08 AM
That sounds interesting.
I think there is a book on snowdrops coming from Timber Press in the next year or so.

You mean this one? http://www.timberpress.com/books/plant_lovers_guide_snowdrops/slade/9781604694352 (http://www.timberpress.com/books/plant_lovers_guide_snowdrops/slade/9781604694352)
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Maggi Young on November 04, 2013, 09:55:33 AM
You mean this one? http://www.timberpress.com/books/plant_lovers_guide_snowdrops/slade/9781604694352 (http://www.timberpress.com/books/plant_lovers_guide_snowdrops/slade/9781604694352)

 This blog from Naomi Slade  will ring true with us about some "garden" centres :
http://naomislade-electricgreen.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://naomislade-electricgreen.blogspot.co.uk/)       
Long live the specialist nursery!!
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Paddy Tobin on November 06, 2013, 11:45:09 PM
Wim, that seems to be the one though the blurb indicates it deals with quite a restricted selection of snowdrops only - sixty described.
Title: Re: Galanthus 'Kedworth'
Post by: Alan_b on November 07, 2013, 07:53:01 AM
It's interesting to speculate how many snowdrops you would need if you restricted yourself to distinctive snowdrops you could identify at a glance.  60 might be about right to meet that criterion. 
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