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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Hagen Engelmann on October 01, 2013, 06:27:55 PM
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It was only a short September for the galanthophile.
The Oktober begins with the first ringing flowers.
It is G r-o. Fine. But where are the leaves??
No problem.
We will have a good and long autumn season.
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We have two flowers of Galanthus regina-olgae out in the green house - waiting for a good day to open them properly for a photo.
I hope you are correct about the good long Autumn, Hagen. ;)
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Maggi, a good and long Autumn is good for our soul, isn`t it?!!!
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Oh yes, indeed, Hagen - and good to make small heating bills as well!
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Every day a few new flowers to warm the heart.
We need it here.
Our night temperatures sunk down under zero.
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Here's the start of my new snowdrop collection. 8)
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In February 2012 I bought 2 Galanthus reginae-olgae 'Ruby Baker' which I wasnt happy with. They were tiny, possibly twinscales, with only one leaf. I repotted them today, October 5th 2012, and what a surprise I had. I was expecting nothing in the pot but I had two good sized bulbs and two tiny off sets. I should have photographed them. They have started to root so I dont want to knock them out again,
Bit of a coincidence with the date but a year on and I noticed today have two flower buds on my reginae-olgae 'Ruby Baker'. Green tipped by its not that obvious just now.
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A lot of Galanthus peshmenii and G.reginae olgae now in flower,exactly the same date as last year
Two of them
Galanthus peshmenii
Galanthus reginae olgae 'Eleni' named by Melvyn
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VERY disappointed with r-o 'Ruby Baker'. Three or four green lines on the outers
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Hello Tony, both groups started without leaves?
Hello Mark, it is not unusual what you describe.
Often the autumn galanthus are not stable with their green outer marks.
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Hello Tony, both groups started without leaves?
Hello Mark, it is not unusual what you describe.
Often the autumn galanthus are not stable with their green outer marks.
Hagen
the r-o all started with no leaves but the peshmenii are a mixture,some with and some without.
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Thank you Tony,
I can confirm the same results here too!!!
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Hi!
Can you say me, how frost hardy is G.reginae-olgae?
Thanks!
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I had a lovely clump outside, in the ground, in Dunblane that took down to -10oC regularly. I'm now trying to grow snowdrops where the ground temperature never reaches below zero.
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I think I remember RichardW at Bennington Lordship saying some of his reginae-olgae suffered badly in our recent winters, but that could be down to a combination of low temperature and heavy soil. Hopefully he will drop by and give us the details.
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Hi!
Can you say me, how frost hardy is G.reginae-olgae?
Thanks!
I have never had problems with hardiness in the garden,lowest I have been is -9c two years ago but never get flowers as they are eaten off by slugs as soon as they start to emerge.
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The not very exciting reginae-olgae 'Ruby Baker'
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Here in the "Erzgebirge" we have sometimes -20°C!
Can I plant it in a pot?
Daniel
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Mark, I have seen better green marked plants of autumn galanthus in my life.
But often the autumns are not stable.
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Here in the "Erzgebirge" we have sometimes -20°C!
Can I plant it in a pot?
Daniel
Not even hardy bulbs will survive -20oC in a pot.
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I have tried to grow reginae-olgae in pots. Unlike the ones grown in the ground, mine never flower. But these are large outdoor pots, not those kept in a greenhouse or bulb frame. And the temperatures here rarely fall much below zero and almost never much below -8°C.
Locally, the Cambridge Botanic Garden exhibits pot-grown reginae-olgae in their glasshouse each year (although they lost the "Cambridge" cultivar).
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I have a clay pot labelled Galanthis corcyrensis, which I got from Bill Dijk. This, its third season with me, yielded only leaves. I have had two flowers each of the previous years.
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Normally G r-o starts with leaves and Gp starts without leaves.
Normally, but not always.
Here you can see the situation of this year. It is exchanged!!!
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Years ago I got FINCHALE ABBEY from Anthony.
Now he is living on south earth.
His spring time is our autumn.
And his bulbs are autumn flowering now :o
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Mine, not from Anthony, are not up.
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Years ago I got FINCHALE ABBEY from Anthony.
Now he is living on south earth.
His spring time is our autumn.
And his bulbs are autumn flowering now :o
How extraordinary, I have never had them flower in the autumn.
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Years ago I got FINCHALE ABBEY from Anthony.
Now he is living on south earth.
His spring time is our autumn.
And his bulbs are autumn flowering now :o
Goodness. That's magic. It's a beautiful snowdrop. 8)
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An update on Ruby Baker - three flowering now. One has green lines, one has barely visible green lines aand one has none
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Mark,
green lines, tips, blotches on the outer segments of autumn snowdrops are real often a problem.
Here is a Gp without any green marks. Also the apical mark is in absence.
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Here is a Gp without any green marks. Also the apical mark is in absence.
Very pretty indeed. Do you find these pale beauties as robust as their coloured relatives?
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Anthony, Brian
FINCHALE was no magic. I exchanged the species. It is not a nivalis, it is a peshmenii.
But it has the elegant figure of FINCHALE ABBEY, hasn`t it?!
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Maggi, most of the fine flowers out of the norm are often a little bit ill. The Whites but also some of the better greens and yellows too.
These white flowers are a happy group this year.
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Thank you Hagen.
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Anthony, Brian
FINCHALE was no magic. I exchanged the species. It is not a nivalis, it is a peshmenii.
But it has the elegant figure of FINCHALE ABBEY, hasn`t it?!
Yes, indeed it has Hagen. How nice to see the shape in the autumn!
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I have never had problems with hardiness in the garden,lowest I have been is -9c two years ago but never get flowers as they are eaten off by slugs as soon as they start to emerge.
I quite agree nearly every year Tilebarn Jamie is attacked and this year was no exception- see below not a shoot untouched. I did wonder could it be mice ? but last night slug treatment caught a blighter. Strange though not a yard away another group - the second picture( a gift from Tony Willis ;) is untouched. Needless to say I have been treating the RO's with slug clear a liquid jobbie which gets the little ones ::)
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Here some more in pots
RO originally from the Langada Pass
Peshmenii with a green marking which seems very slow
and the RO brothers and sisters of those outside in a frame
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I got this as Galanthus ikarie ssp. snogerupii, which it isn't. Can anyone put a name on it?
It is flowering now without leaves. These are about 8 mm and glaucous when they come in a month or two.
Poul
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Looks like reginae olgae to me from the flower Poul.
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Thought I might have a flower or two this year from my 2009 seed sown (seed from Tony Willis) reginae olgae but maybe next year! Er, no I'm not getting galanthophilistic tendencies ;D
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Careful David. ;D
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;D ;D ; ;D
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Poul,
only a pic of the flower isn`t enough to give the right answer. Is there a silvery midline on the (later) leaves too?
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Here is a nice portrait of a cyclamineus-type of Gp.
It seems the flower would like to fly into the spring time.
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It has been an excellent year here for the autumn galanthus flowering
Galanthus peshmenii from Kastellorhiza
Galanthus reginae-olgae from Greece Kroneri
Galanthus reginae -olgae Melvyn's 'Sofia' which is a very robust form
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top tuffs Tony.
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If you cannot have green so you should be happy with white!!!
Here is HERBSTFLÖCKCHEN - autumn flake , sometimes it is poculiforme, sometimes it is pure white.
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Flowers of spring and autumn can look very similar.
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Мagnificently!!!
Тhank you, Hagen.
What a pity that in our climate, autumn snowdrops do not live... :'(
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Natalia, also here they havn`t good conditions outside. No chance there.
But I want not to miss the autumn season. It is too long until spring.
So the pots have a good situation in a greenhouse/tunnel in winter.
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Today in the garden. After a long period of drought, the rain returned as well as the reginae-olgae's.
The first one for Mark and 'green man' Hagen ('Ruby Baker')
The second for Maggi ('Blanc de Chine')
and of course everyone else !
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Good green, my respect Mr. Hamamelis!!!
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I only can show you much inner green.
Fresh green of today.
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Feddyvl,
it seems your white flower has four outers?
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The first one for Mark and 'green man' Hagen ('Ruby Baker')
wow why don't mine look like that!?
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ground material?
water?
temperature?
There are a lot things.............
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Great to see so many beautiful Galanthus! Here still nothing visible.
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ОООООО......
freddyvl, Hagen - Show us, show us the blooming snowdrops, otherwise we will not be able to survive until spring :))
(edit by maggi to remove "empty" space"!! ;D )
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Here's a photo taken on Saturday of a small clump of Galanthus reginae-olgae 'Tilebarn Jamie' in my garden at the foot of a young Scots Pine that is being Niwaki trained.
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Hello!
The first galanthus in my garden seems Lady Beatrix Stanley which was twin-scaled early this year - while the mother bulb hasn't come up yet..... ??? :'(
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Poul,
only a pic of the flower isn`t enough to give the right answer. Is there a silvery midline on the (later) leaves too?
Thank you Hagen.
I don't remember. I will return later with a photo of the leaves.
Here are the flowers today.
Poul
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A favourite time of the year for me when Autumn flowering cyclamen and Galanthus are in full flower.
Photo 1, a general view of the greenhouse.
Photo 2 Galanthus reginae-olgae Lefki This selection can be quite variable in size, when mature and happy the plants are very robust and always have two scapes per bulb, the height of the tallest plant in the photo is 24cm.
Photo 3 G.r-o Lefki close up.
Photo 4 G.r-o Autumn Snow, one of the earliest to flower this year.
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A selection of Galanthus peshmenii.
Photo 1 G.peshmenii OS792 a selection by the late Ole Sonderhausen.
Photo 2. A plant from Kastellorizo.
Photo 3. A plant from near Antalya.
Photo 4. The same plant as 3. looking at the attractive inner markings of the flower.
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. 'Ruby Baker': As Hagen told Mark, it can be a lot af things that make it greener or not but I always say the same and most people have to laugh about it. What I say ? Talk to them, cherish them and you will see it works ;)
. 'Blanc de Chine': Does have 4 outers ; probably because it's a young plant which was planted out last year ?
. Melvyn, beautiful plants and especially 'Autumn Snow'. Is 'Fotini' already blooming ?
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. 'Ruby Baker': As Hagen told Mark, it can be a lot af things that make it greener or not but I always say the same and most people have to laugh about it. What I say ? Talk to them, cherish them and you will see it works ;)
. 'Blanc de Chine': Does have 4 outers ; probably because it's a young plant which was planted out last year ?
. Melvyn, beautiful plants and especially 'Autumn Snow'. Is 'Fotini' already blooming ?
Glad you like Autumn Snow. Fotini is not showing any sign of growth yet, I expect it to be in flower about mid November.
My Ruby Baker just had green lines this year, Blanc de Chine has done well but none had 4outers!
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Melvyn, your collection of plants, from whatever genus ( eg. your cyclamen!!) are delightful.
Blanc de Chine and Autumn Snow are particularly appealing to my eye - I seem to have a bias to the pure whites.
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Very beautiful galanthus Melvyn. Hard to pick a favourite but your Antalya plant is certainly lovely.
Are those 'red' C. hederifolium in the background of your first picture?
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Above soil level in the last few days but not open yet is G. elwesii Barnes.
For some reason r-o has struggled to flower well in previous years but not this year. Looks like most if not all will flower. Looks like 'Cambridge' will also do well this year. I divided it in to three groups this year.
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Very beautiful galanthus Melvyn. Hard to pick a favourite but your Antalya plant is certainly lovely.
Are those 'red' C. hederifolium in the background of your first picture?
Yes Ashley they are red Cyclamen hederifolium in the background, I have just posted some pictures on the Cyclamen thread, hope you like them.
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AUTUMN SNOW - it is an autumn star.
He is wandering between the white and the poculiforme group.
No problem. Always a beauty.
Thank`s to Melvyn
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Glad Autumn Snow has done well for you Hagen, I think the flower improves with age, I wonder if you will agree.
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Have Remember Remember through but not flowering as yet
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golden autumn with white stars between
two new heartbreakers
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Autumn-flowering snowdrops are not offered for sale very widely and I am curious to know how a few of us here have managed to accumulate so many. I believe Melvyn has collected seed from snowdrops growing in their native habitats but how have you done it, Hagen? How did you find so many unusual and attractive autumn-flowering snowdrops? They surely don't grow wild or naturalised anywhere near where you live? Have you grown all yours from seed also?
Imagine a National Collection of early-flowering snowdrops that you could visit in October to December. That would be something really special.
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Alan, you know, I`m a galanthophile for long, long years.
If you want to create news,
you should do not swim always in the same sauce,
you should not use only trodden pathes.
You need a lot of friends, not only in UK.
Then you can get much more seed, you cannot buy in the next shop.
And you need time, time, time.
To wait!!!
I`m not the youngest!!!
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Alan, I think Hagen's response is correct, I too have been growing from seed for a long time and have also had some very generous gifts. I do have a little wild collected seed of Galanthus reginae-olgae seed that I could send you to get you started if you are interested?
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And you need time, time, time.
To wait!!!
I`m not the youngest!!!
Very true Hagen. I know exactly how you feel! :-\
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Thank you Hagen and Melvyn for your replies - and your generous offer of seed, Melvyn. Unfortunately I'm not well-equipped for raising any plants from seed so I will decline. Also, I'm only seeking snowdrops that are hardy enough to ultimately grow outside in my garden. That seems to rule-out some of the autumn-flowering snowdrops and also requires that the others must be carefully situated. I don't have that many spots in the garden that seem to provide the right conditions for reginae-olgae. My perception is that they require a warm location that is inhospitable to slugs and snails.
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I don't have that many spots in the garden that seem to provide the right conditions for reginae-olgae. My perception is that they require a warm location that is inhospitable to slugs and snails.
I have mine in clay pots in the green house plunge, in troughs, a raised bed and on the rockery. I put out a few pellets to stop the slugs and snails eating the flowers
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I'm having to lift and pot my collection as my boss is selling the mill, where I live and work . It's going on the market in March if anyone has a few million to spend . I'm potting them in case I find a job before I'm made redundant ......got a job interview next week .
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Oh dear, Emma. Being made redundant is not a pleasant experience; I hope you are able to find a new job quickly but sometimes you just have to be patient.
It's not the best time to be lifting snowdrops but they will grow tolerably well in pots in my experience. Some thrive, some sulk but they will keep going. I used quite large plastic pots myself but your family has recently converted me to the even larger "long tom" type for larger snowdrops.
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Oh Emma, what a terrible blow, is there no chance of you being taken on by any new owners as part of the deal? In the meantime good luck for the job interview, I hope you get it and are equally happy working wherever it is.
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Wishing you the very best outcome in all of this, Emma - some lucky employer out there is waiting for you, I'm sure.
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Good luck with the job hunting
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There is I am told about a 90% chance of new owners keeping me on . There is a wonderful job going 2 minutes up the road. I've got an interview for it , so fingers crossed . There has been a total break down of communication here which has really made me want to leave if I get the right job offer
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Here's a little posie to wish you well, Emma.
G. reginae olgae, 'Tilebarn Jamie'
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Mine is only just through the surface!
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There is I am told about a 90% chance of new owners keeping me on .
What did I tell you? :)
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There has been a total break down of communication here
You can say that again!! >:(
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Hello everybody,
Good to see that the snowdrops are starting to grow again. Some nice flowers have been posted already.
The season is starting overhere also.....
All are growing outside in the garden, and it seems they like the warmer weather we still have.
Reg Olg Eleni
Elw Peter Gatehouse
Pesmenii Green Tips
Shed's and Outhouses
Shed's and Outhouses
Richard
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Two more.....
Early to Rise
Reg Olg Tilebarn Jamie
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Three elwesii 'Barnes' hanging free today. This is the earliest they have flowered
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SHEDS AND OUTHOUSES before BARNES. That is early Richard!
Mark your season is there too. Show us a little smile.
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Mark your season is there too. Show us a little smile.
You're not the only one to ask
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Saw you much more friendly between galanthophiles
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In the normal life...
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Hagen, it is the first year for me I have Sheds and Outhouses. Hopefully it will be that early next year also.
Barnes just has it nose above the ground. Fly Fishing, Elwesii ex Watson Leeds and Santa Claus are showing themselves
too. Last year Elw. Howard Wheeler was flowering the second week of November, no sign of it yet, this year.
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In addition to numerous reginae-olgae and peshmenii in pots, I have ' Peter Gatehouse' in flower. Surely this is early.
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In the normal life...
48 views ;D
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48 views ;D
Gluttons for punishment ;D
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Barnes out here today as well. :D
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Although I would not normally suggest leaving twinscaling as late as the label indicates, or leave potting up until today as you can see they have come to no harm. It just calls for great care in handling so that the roots are not damaged.
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Interesting to see Melvyn, including the top of the bulb which has sprouted nicely too.
'Fotini' is such a beauty.
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48 views ;D
Probably that green snowdrop on Hagen's lapel.
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JohnW come to Europe, we will have to speak a lot about...... ;D
Melvyn, I know this good feeling to open a bag with fine twin-scaling-bulbils..... :)
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Ruby Baker has her 90. birthday!!!
Today.
All my best wishes from Germany.
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JohnW come to Europe, we will have to speak a lot about...... ;D
My little experiment, 7 more views in 2 hours since my post. We love you for more than your greens though.
A very Happy Birthday to Ruby Baker.
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I do hope that someone will pass on all our good wishes to the charming Mrs Baker - I wish her many happy returns of the day!
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Have already done so Maggi, Ruby has asked me to thank all those that have sent their good wishes and told me that her day has been really enjoyable.