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Title: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 01, 2013, 12:05:10 PM
It really felt like the start of spring today, with the temperature reaching 19oC and we got to spend most of the day outside - mostly weeding!
Lots of new flowers out today including Gagea fibrosa, Tulipa kaufmanniana 'Heart's Delight' and Babiana pygmaea.
Also some new germinations amongst the seed pots!
Pics soon! now added ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 01, 2013, 12:07:24 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed that it might make 19degrees here on the other side of the world too, fermi!!
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: angie on September 01, 2013, 03:31:43 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed that it might make 19degrees here on the other side of the world too, fermi!!

Dont think so Maggi but tommorow is meant to be sunny and 23c, will wait and see  ::)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 02, 2013, 01:55:34 AM
Jon B (mini-bulb lover) will be too modest to mention this, but I think he should be congratulated for putting his first entries into the Rock garden Section at the Ferny Creek Horticultural Society's Spring Show and coming away with a couple of first prize cards AND the Blue Ribbon! :o
Congratulations, Jon!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 02, 2013, 09:21:29 AM
Dont think so Maggi but tommorow is meant to be sunny and 23c, will wait and see  ::)
That's what it got to today over here, Angie!
Not that I noticed much as I was at work :(
Oh well, it pays for all the new plants!

Here are a few more pics from the FCHS Show:
mixed cutflowers - general view
cutflowers - individual vase
Joy Quinn's Cyclamen persicum
Cynthia's mini-garden
Ian W's Rhododendron hemitrichotum
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: angie on September 02, 2013, 09:33:16 AM
That's what it got to today over here, Angie!
Not that I noticed much as I was at work :(
Oh well, it pays for all the new plants

Yep Fermi without working we wouldn't be able to keep our wonderful hobby going. I should be doing my husbands paperwork but always have to have a quick look on the forum to see what everyone is up to  ;D Better get outside though as we wont get much more of these wonderful days, autumn is just around the corner  :'(. Paperwork will have to wait  ;D

Aren't those cut flowers wonderful. Thanks for sharing.

Angie  :)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arillady on September 02, 2013, 10:43:53 AM
Fermi I do like the old glass vases being mostly the same.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 02, 2013, 11:33:55 AM
What a marvelous show- and many congratulations to all the exhibitors for making such a grand display.
 Jon B. - you certainly had a great day out - well done, indeed. Great fun, isn't it?

Good to see the super entries from folks we know well here!

Just a shame  that dear Otto is unwell at the moment and stuck in hospital while this super event was taking place. His many friends and admirers will doubtless join with me in sending him our best wishes.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 02, 2013, 11:36:56 AM
Keeping my fingers crossed that it might make 19degrees here on the other side of the world too, fermi!!

Angie said she thought we'd mange 23 degrees here today and I doubted her - silly me- it's that already, though as I type that the clouds are coming in and the wind is rising  - hope that's just a "blip" - as it is really lovely to be able to work outside on the 1st September!!

Who'd have thought it, Australians- we are matching you!!  :o 8) ;D
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 03, 2013, 09:04:43 AM
More images from the FCHS Show
A close up of Jon's Narcissus canaliculatus
Narcissus 'White WIngs'
3 pics of some of the camellias - it was the National Championship!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 03, 2013, 09:12:28 AM
Just for Maggi, some Rhodies

Rh macabeanum
Rh grande
a fancy spotted one
Lighthouse
Rh moupinense ( I think)

cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 03, 2013, 09:15:54 AM
One more large leaf Rhodie
Helene's tree peonies
Magnolia Caerhy's Belle
The yellow end of the Rhodie spectrum
Wall hanging gardens

cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on September 03, 2013, 07:48:32 PM
Lovely show there Fermi.  Any chance you have a close-up of those sensational yellow rhodies/

Do you think that spotty one is an irroratum hybrid? Maybe x a Grandia?

 
johnw  - 11mm yesterday, 65mm today and climbing.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 04, 2013, 01:17:27 AM
Lovely show there Fermi.  Any chance you have a close-up of those sensational yellow rhodies/

Do you think that spotty one is an irroratum hybrid? Maybe x a Grandia?

 
johnw  - 11mm yesterday, 65mm today and climbing.
John,
I didn't have as much time to take pics this time; here's a slightly enlarged pic of the Rhodie on the left which is possibly rh chrysomanum(?)
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on September 04, 2013, 01:48:25 AM
Thanks Fermi.  Indeed xchrysomanicum in pristine shape, too bad it is hopelessly tender for these parts.

(=chrysodoron x burmanicum)

johnw
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Mini bulb lover on September 05, 2013, 11:28:48 AM
Jon B (mini-bulb lover) will be too modest to mention this, but I think he should be congratulated for putting his first entries into the Rock garden Section at the Ferny Creek Horticultural Society's Spring Show and coming away with a couple of first prize cards AND the Blue Ribbon! :o
Congratulations, Jon!
cheers
fermi

Thanks Fermi. You're right, I wasn't going to mention it...   :)

Here are some more flowers from the show (none of them mine, unfortunately).

Ipheon sellowianum (unless the name has changed)
Spiloxene canaliculata
Rhodo irroratum "polka dot"

Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Mini bulb lover on September 05, 2013, 11:56:30 AM
It was perfect weather (sunny, mid 20s) on the weekend for the Ferny Creek Horticultural Society spring show so I took the following photos in the surrounding garden.

I hope Otto is feeling better soon.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on September 05, 2013, 02:51:21 PM
Smashing irroratum Polka Dot Jon!

Any idea what the red rhodo is?

johnw
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 05, 2013, 07:00:22 PM
Nice selection Jon. The Ipheion is now Tristagma by the way.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Mini bulb lover on September 06, 2013, 02:37:52 AM
Johnw - I don't know the name of the red rhodo but I'm going to Ferny Creek tomorrow so I'll see if I can find a label.

David - thanks for the heads up on the Ipheion name change. Someone did mention to me they thought the name had changed but they weren't sure what it had changed to. I suppose if I stood still long enough they'd try and change my name too!

A couple of photos taken in my garden on this grey day today -
Hippeastrum papilio which was generously given to me by some friends recently (very generous when the next day I received a catalogue listing them for $65(AUD) a bulb! (approx. 38 GBP))
And a Lewisia cotyledon seedling that Otto generously gave me last year.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on September 07, 2013, 02:35:24 AM
Hi,

That spiloxene looks a treat. Must it be confined (imprisoned) in a pot?

A few yellow flowering fritillaria from around the Mediterranean Basin. Well strictly not F. rhodokanakis but this form is so striking.

    Fritillaria kittaniae
    Fritillaria carica from Samos
    Fritillaria milasense
    Fritillaria rhodokanakis yellow
    Fritillaria pelinaea

edit by maggi to add photo file names
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Anthony Darby on September 07, 2013, 07:02:04 AM
I think this is a Hyacinthoides sp.?
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Mini bulb lover on September 08, 2013, 12:24:21 PM
Johnw - the red Rhodo I posted earlier is "Cornubia" which I'm told was bred in New Zealand. They have two in the garden, one a stronger red than the other.

Below is Geissorhiza radians. The petals of the unopened buds really glisten in the sun (hard to capture with my camera). I like the way the sun shines through the petals. Quite a bold flower.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arillady on September 08, 2013, 11:05:38 PM
Striking flower Jon.
Iris warleyensis
Iris bucharica next to Sindpers hiding behind another bulb of bucharica
this came as seed of Iris lazica whihc it is not - similar to a babiana leaf - thin though
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 08, 2013, 11:29:05 PM
I think your imposter lazica is a little gladiolus, Pat  No idea which one though.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Hillview croconut on September 09, 2013, 02:30:26 AM
MMM ... where's Paul or Fermi when you need them? I would like to know how Iris lazica got into the gladdie mix.

I can send some I. lazica to you Pat - give me a pm if you wish.

Just a few stragglers from the very first day of September.
 
Cheers, Marcus


PS The Crocus vernus was originally grown by Otto and passed on to David Glenn and now to me. I managed to get a few back to Otto this year so they have come full circle.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 09, 2013, 07:05:41 AM
Can someone ID the two double Narcissus for me please? I had the former as 'Rip van Winkle' but was told at the weekend that it isn't. I should know the other but the mind isn't working. It's just that I have some flowering in pots for salestable at Otago Iris Group meeting on Saturday. fund-raising madly for Convention in 2015. The more we can raise the lower we can keep the cost, the more members we'll have from around the country, especially the N. Island. 

Then Trillium maculatum, a really good form whose seed this coming season I had promised to Stewart Preston, but too late I'm afraid. He had admired it a couple of times. Three flowers yesterday when I took the pic, just two today after a rabbit visit! Bird netting now covering the bed.

The Corydalis is C. transsylvanica, bought from Joy Stack at the summer Study Weekend. Four bulbs, 6 stems and some seed forming. Rabbit apparently didn't like that but he dug up and mostly ate some pink Primula sieboldii plants.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arillady on September 09, 2013, 10:13:42 AM
Thanks Maggie and Marcus. Yes please Marcus - sometime - for the lazica.
Gladiolus huttonii
Iris subbiflora x Iris revoluta - hard to capture the colour correctly
PT9856 - love the form of this one with its tucked under standards touching the stem
Tulips which the hare or rabbits moved tags around.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 09, 2013, 02:15:39 PM
Can someone ID the two double Narcissus for me please? I had the former as 'Rip van Winkle' but was told at the weekend that it isn't. I should know the other but the mind isn't working. It's just that I have some flowering in pots for salestable at Otago Iris Group meeting on Saturday. fund-raising madly for Convention in 2015. The more we can raise the lower we can keep the cost, the more members we'll have from around the country, especially the N. Island. 

First one is a bit ragged but near enough  to Rip van Winkle in my eyes .... what reason was given for it not to be so?
 
I think Second one is Narcissus  Eystettensis  syn. Queen Anne's Double - but AnneW disagrees and she's probably right  in saying it is Pencrebar - though I think it is very hard to  distinguish them  :-X
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on September 09, 2013, 11:05:19 PM

this came as seed of Iris lazica whihc it is not - similar to a babiana leaf - thin though

Pat, don't believe of a Gladiolus but did you try Babiana, there are many of them.... ::), well, you are able to see your whole plant.

Here are some !!pics:
http://www.ispot.org.za/search/node/babiana (http://www.ispot.org.za/search/node/babiana)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 10, 2013, 04:00:23 AM
Thanks Maggi. No actual reason was given but I've had an email from the man who said "not" and I quote him (I think he's REALLY wrong now) "Definitely not 'Rip van Winkle' a hybrid bred in the early part of the 20th century, which has a totally different structure of tessalated petals.. He says it appears to fit the description of Nar. capax plenus, "Queen Anne's Double Daffodil" (syn. N. eyestettensis) and first recorded around 1601."

You are quite right - why would I doubt that! and if I'd used my brain and gone first to the Wells miniature daff book, I could have answered both pics. Queen Anne's is quite right and is also known now as 'Pencrebar' and I think that's why I couldn't think of its name because I didn't realize it and QA's were the same thing. Now I know. The Wells picture of 'Rip van Winkle is pretty horrid, but I'm sure is, as you say, close enough to be RvW. I'll email back to my friend and put him right. (He won't like that!) ::)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 10, 2013, 08:22:22 AM
The second Onco for us - Pat Toolan raised this one - Iris kirkwoodiae x iris atropurpurea;
Iris lutescens (I think);
Narcissus 'Splatter' - just to cheer up Lesley and take her mind off RvW! ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 10, 2013, 10:28:49 AM
Lesley, your double daffs are, I think, RVW the first one and Pencrebar the second. Pencrebar is NOT the same as Queen Anne's Double (Eystettensis) which is a much older variety, pale lemon shading to a green centre in colour and with very glaucous leaves.
See: http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?photo2=09dc61ea5b05497b659e9820221919e8&pagenum1=1& (http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?photo2=09dc61ea5b05497b659e9820221919e8&pagenum1=1&)
and: http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Eystettensis&lastpage=1& (http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Eystettensis&lastpage=1&)
Sorry didn't see the post earlier.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 10, 2013, 12:56:37 PM
Can someone ID the two double Narcissus for me please? I had the former as 'Rip van Winkle' but was told at the weekend that it isn't. I should know the other but the mind isn't working.


First one is a bit ragged but near enough  to Rip van Winkle in my eyes .... what reason was given for it not to be so?
 
I think Second one is Narcissus  Eystettensis  syn. Queen Anne's Double

Hmmm, I did think the second one was QA double but  - but Anne W disagrees and she's probably right  in saying it is Pencrebar - though I find it is very hard to  distinguish them  :-X   :-[
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 11, 2013, 05:09:14 AM
The problem is that there is "Queen Anne's Double Daffodil" which is a synonym of 'Eystettensis' and is quite distinct from "Queen Anne's Doubel Jonquill" which is a synoym of Narcissus jonquilla 'Flore Pleno' which looks a bit like 'Pencrebar'.
I have the double jonquil which might be in flower soon, but I've lost 'Pencrebar' and 'Eystettensis' - at least I haven't seen them flower for a long time :(
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 11, 2013, 06:49:54 AM
Right!

I'm happy now that mine is 'Pencrebar' and James A Wells, says the old name for it is Queen Anne's double jonquil, referring to Queen Anne of England and I misread him in that I didn't connect that there is also Queen Anne's double daffodil, referring to Queen Anne of Austria, and it is this one that is Eystettensis, which I definitely don't have.

Thanks everyone for sorting me out. Of course it would be easier if the various queens through the centuries had used a few more names. There's a preponderance of Annes and Katherines  and Marys. Why couldn't their royal parents have occasionally chosen Kylie or Charlene, Shania or Mickayla, even Aleisha? ;D
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 11, 2013, 09:08:33 AM
............. or even Lesley ;D
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 11, 2013, 11:07:37 AM
You've hit the button David ;D Burns got it right when he wrote " Saw ye Bonnie....." ;D ;D
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 11, 2013, 10:17:16 PM
Fermi, you've sorted us out. Too many Queens :-\
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 12, 2013, 04:09:16 AM
Here's a pic of the double jonquil, which as far as I can tell is NOT 'Pencrebar' but should be what's called "Queen Anne's Double Jonquil"
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tim Ingram on September 12, 2013, 08:05:27 AM
I've been trying to find an image of 'Eystettensis' but realise I only have it as a slide! (Another reason to get a scanner). The flowers are much fuller than Fermi's jonquil and a softer yellow. It must be pretty uncommon in gardens - I've only seen it at Beth Chatto's and searched for bulbs for a long time, until finding some on Rannveig Wallis' list. It is a lovely plant, in the same league and desirability as things like 'Cedric Morris'.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Michael J Campbell on September 12, 2013, 10:27:22 AM
Here is what I have as Narcissus Eystettensis Queen Anne's Double ? not sure if it is correct.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arillady on September 12, 2013, 11:39:38 AM
http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Eystettensis&lastpage=1 (http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Eystettensis&lastpage=1)
the above link shows and describes 'Eystettensis'
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Tim Ingram on September 12, 2013, 01:45:01 PM
Just like Anne's picture. So is Michael's 'Pencrebar'?
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 12, 2013, 02:47:46 PM
Just like Anne's picture. So is Michael's 'Pencrebar'?

I would say so, and especially so if the description of Eystettensis on Daffseek as being "sulphur yellow" is correct.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on September 12, 2013, 10:45:04 PM
Here a pic  of Narcissus jonquilla Pencrebar as the Dutch collectors still grow. It looks like Michael's plant.

And a pic od N. eystettensis which I made in the Connoisseurs Collection.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 13, 2013, 05:04:05 AM
Well then, I'm pretty sure my rounder one is 'Pencrebar' but the other Luit, looks like what you have as Eystettensis! Oh darn. That's what I was now sure was 'Rip Van Winkle.' In mine, the layers of petals are sort of superimposed on each other, as in the genuine Trillium grandiflorum 'Snow Bunting' as distinct from the less regimented T. g. 'Flore Pleno.'
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 13, 2013, 11:38:45 AM
Lesley, your first flower is not neat enough to be anything other than Rip van Winkle as  far as I can see - iut has a very ragged look- which is what Rip has.
See the pix on the Daffseek page :
http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Rip%20van%20Winkle&lastpage=1& (http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Rip%20van%20Winkle&lastpage=1&)

Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 13, 2013, 03:43:43 PM
Yes, definitely RVW - Eystettensis is pale lemon, and much tidier, broader petals layered with each row directly over the one below.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 13, 2013, 09:26:46 PM
But when it first came out it DID have the petals neatly layered one on one over the one beneath. It is only as it's ages that it's became more raggedy. :-\ It really doesn't look like the Daffseek RVW. Honestly. ::)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lvandelft on September 13, 2013, 10:55:22 PM
Lesley, if your bulb is not mature the flower may look a bit different..?
The pic on daffseek made by Hein Meeuwissen, North Holland, the Netherlands is just like I know RvW
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 16, 2013, 08:42:49 AM
Hi Everyone,
Will and I are in Canberra, staying with Paul Tyerman - he sends greetings to all ;D - while attending the Canberra Hort Soc's Spring Flower Show. It was a splendid show and I was hugely impressed by all the miniatures exhibited! Of course, here we have two exceptional breeders - the Forum's own, Mini-daffs, Graham Fleming, and Lawrence Trevanion. They were joined by Kevin and Mary Crowe from Hobart, who have specialised in Div 6 minis and the flowers they showed us were phenomenal! :o
You'll have to wait for me to get back to work be to able to post pics of them, though :(
Tonight there's a talk by Bob Spotts from California on "Daffodils around the World".
Tomorrow we'll head for home having had a great time and we hope we can make it back again,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 16, 2013, 08:50:05 AM
You'll have to wait for me to get back to work be to able to post pics of them, though :(
My breath is bated. Wish I was there!
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 17, 2013, 12:13:08 AM
Good that you could catch up with Paul again Fermi. I hope you gave him everyone's best wishes. Hope some time he'll get back to the Forum.

We have our Otago Alpine Garden Group show on the weekend after next. I'll take my camera. Some pots that last year were not nearly ready are already almost finished this year. A crazy spring which is advancing rapidly even though the weather is very cold, at least here in the south.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 17, 2013, 12:05:11 PM
Telopea Shady Lady Pink are flowering now. These are hybrids that out do the species. Up to 100 flowers
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 17, 2013, 01:57:47 PM
Some Trilliums bursting out after some much needed rain. T pusillum is something special. with a hint of pink on the back petals.

enjoy
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 17, 2013, 02:20:35 PM
At Mats Murrays place. He likes to be arty with his picks. He sent me this pick. The Hellebore was seed that I had dropped in the bulb bed and the orange Frit raddeana is something that he talks to. A nice combination of colour and forms. ;D

enjoy 
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 17, 2013, 03:45:03 PM
Lovely trilliums, Stephen - and great photos- it's like they're here in the room.

Can't say I've ever seen that particular "combo" of  frit and hellebore - but I  do like it.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 18, 2013, 01:14:18 PM
Thanks Maggie, those Trilliums are 9 years in the making from seed.

Here are some very large Shady Ladys doing what they do best. Nearly 100 blooms this year and the nectar can be seen at the base of the bloom they are very sweet :)

And Tasmanias Laural in bloom, I keep thinking they smell but nothing.

enjoy
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 18, 2013, 01:25:46 PM
Thanks Maggie, those Trilliums are 9 years in the making from seed.

Here are some very large Shady Ladys doing what they do best. Nearly 100 blooms this year and the nectar can be seen at the base of the bloom they are very sweet :)

And Tasmanias Laural in bloom, I keep thinking they smell but nothing.

enjoy

9 years, but worth the wait.  :)

 "Nearly 100 blooms" ?  Your counting isn't very good - there are masses more than that!!! 8)

You really would think a white blossom like that would be scented, wouldn't you - how disappointing that is isn't. :(
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 18, 2013, 11:02:04 PM
Shady Lady? ???
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 18, 2013, 11:06:44 PM
Shady Lady? ???
A form of Telopea specioissima ....

http://asgap.org.au/t-spec.html (http://asgap.org.au/t-spec.html)  ..... I love the way that from a distance  it looks like a rhodo !
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 18, 2013, 11:09:04 PM
Thanks maggi, a protea lookalike.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 18, 2013, 11:12:03 PM
Yes  - really lovely isn't it?  A friend just got some in a wonderful bunch  of flowers that also included  red Anthuriums and giant pink/ creamy/furry Proteas ( King Proteas?)  The form and texture of them is great and the colour is yummy.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 19, 2013, 12:00:09 AM
HI Maggi and Anne,

Not a form of Telopea but a hybrid. Shady lady comes in red, pink, white and yellow. Telopea speciosissima x oreades is the cross. Basically introducing vigour, a differant shade of red, and other colours, being able to with stand clay and phosphorus soils and much bushier with massive bloom count. Telopea speciosissima your lucky to have it grow for a couple of years yet alone have a few maybe 3 blooms. These hybrids are gross feeders. Can withstand temps down to -12c, maybe lower but I havnt seen it get that low here..yet  :) Its a wonder they are not in some parts of the U.K??

Maggi its funny how you say that they look like a Rhodo even though they are proteacea. This hybrid does not have the serrated leaves like the usual speciosissima. The dormant buds are very fat like a rhodo with its rhodo like leaves and bushy habit you could easily mistaken it for a rhodo in winter. The emerging new leaf and flower buds look like a rhodo and when the new shoots emerge with their candel stick like shoots and leaf bracts attached that are reddish. The emerging flowers are arranged like a rhodo with the bud bracts sitting beneath, even down to how they are arrange on the bush. And funny enough they will grow alongside Rhodos as they love the cool misty weather and grow in open forest but will take more sun.

I have a white and a yellow about to open. Will take a pick

Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 19, 2013, 12:25:24 AM
Heres Shady Lady white, looking a shade of pale...the whites and yellow do this as they emerge but the bush and buds do look Rhodo like.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 19, 2013, 04:28:35 AM
Good that you could catch up with Paul again Fermi. I hope you gave him everyone's best wishes. Hope some time he'll get back to the Forum.

It's possible, Lesley, although you probably shouldn't hold your breath!  ;)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 19, 2013, 08:58:21 AM
They look fabulous, and the growing conditions sound a bit like yours Maggie...
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 19, 2013, 11:52:32 AM
They look fabulous, and the growing conditions sound a bit like yours Maggie...

I was thinking the same thing, Anne -  I may look into availability here. I really like the look of a rhodo from a distance and then the surprise of  getting closer to see the flowers.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 19, 2013, 12:28:24 PM
Maggi,

I grow Telopea in a pot here, as I have heavy clay as my soil base and I find that pots tend to give the better drainage that they need.  Obviously mine in a pot is only small though, and will never produce a display anything like Stephen's though.  Stunning plant, Stephen.  Do the Shady Lady series really no longer worry about Clay or Phosphorus fertilisers?? :O
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 19, 2013, 11:58:10 PM
Hi Paul,

Yes Shady Lady is vigorous and not worried about clay or phosphorus at all  ;) they love a good azalea or camellia fertiliser mix, just half the dose and water it in ..now a good time.

If your planting in clay do dig the soil over and add compost into it, you can raise it a little as long its not in a sink where water will sit it dose like some drainage...stay away from manuare....and they love woodchip mulch...and do water them just after flowering when most of the growth is happening and then you wont have to worry about them as long as they get some rain in the summer...watch out for tip borer that seems to get them some years, you will notice frass in the bud..but can be easy captured....try it Paul :)

Actually here at Mount Tomah Botanic Garden we are having our Waratah festival running for 2 weeks...I will send you some picks of the flower competion, from the NSW Waratah Growers Association. They have some amazing blooms and also on show are some native flower arrangements that Im about to go off and do...

cheers
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 20, 2013, 12:04:28 AM
Stephen,

Interesting to know that.  I'm used to the natives usual drainage requirements etc, and I always suggest mounding in our clay soils to increase drainage, but I wasn't aware of the phosphorous tolerance.  Interestingly, if you read the NPK ratios on the Azalea and Camellia fertilisers, they're actually lower in Phosphorus in many cases than the native fertilisers themselves.  I've wondered about that for a while, and whether it is really true.  :-\
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 20, 2013, 04:28:21 AM
Back in the office today, so the pics have been downloaded and re-sized!
Nice to see you back, Paul, thanks again for your hospitality and all the plants!

Here are some pics from the Canberra Hort Soc's Flower Show,

Welcome to Show;
Judging in progress
Discussion on the Champion bloom? (Paul T on left!)
There were other blooms on display!
5 Distinct blooms

cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 20, 2013, 04:31:30 AM
Some of the mini-daffodils on show!
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 20, 2013, 06:33:56 AM
So you're getting as sneaky as Graham (Mini-Daffs)?  Taking photos while I wasn't watching.  At least he smiled and waved at me (evilly I might add) after photographing me doing show and tell at the Horticultural Society meeting.  :P  Thankfully he hasn't posted any of them here though..... I don't want to shatter people's computer screens (obviously you've got a camera with a strong stomach).
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Mini-daffs on September 20, 2013, 10:29:46 AM
 :-\
Hi
Paul, my happy snap of you made the narcissus thread!!  I gave you the ok sign after the flash went off! Fermi made it there as well!
I was truly impressed by the size of your trillium. If you have some seed we could do a deal.
Fermi's photos show some of the Crowes seedlings. I think Kevin mainly breeds miniature cyclamineus hybrids. They were quite small hybrids.
Fermi has also saved me from posting photos of some of our other entries in the Show.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 20, 2013, 10:44:18 AM
Nice Daffs Fermi..you do like those mini's ;)

Here are some of the Waratahs (Telopea) on show at Mount Tomah Botanic Garden, Blue Mountains, west of  Sydney.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 20, 2013, 10:49:48 AM
And some of the flower arrangements.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 20, 2013, 10:55:57 AM
and some more arrangements
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 20, 2013, 11:06:42 AM
and the crew and myself on the right...what a day of chopping and arranging some great native wild flowers.

with some interpretive signs and art work.

enjoy
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 20, 2013, 11:16:06 AM
 Wild about Waratahs -WaW - Waratahs for Wildlife -    WfW  - more like WOW  I reckon - very impressive indeed.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on September 20, 2013, 12:49:30 PM
Wonderful display., stunning flowers
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 20, 2013, 01:46:13 PM
:-\
Hi
Paul, my happy snap of you made the narcissus thread!!  I gave you the ok sign after the flash went off! Fermi made it there as well!
I was truly impressed by the size of your trillium. If you have some seed we could do a deal.
Fermi's photos show some of the Crowes seedlings. I think Kevin mainly breeds miniature cyclamineus hybrids. They were quite small hybrids.
Fermi has also saved me from posting photos of some of our other entries in the Show.

Oh dear, you really posted a pic of me there?  Sorry to everyone who's monitors have cracked.  ::)

Yes, I got the OK sign, it was the slightly evil mischievous grin at the time that was the best bit.  Quite a clear "Gotcha".   ;D

I'll try to set some seed on the Trillium.  There are a couple of siblings side by side, but I've never actually tried pollinating them.  I guess it's never too late to learn. ;)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on September 25, 2013, 12:06:36 AM
my darkest seedling of Trillium rivale plus 2 others flowering just now
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 25, 2013, 12:13:10 AM
Otto, it is really good to see your plants again - shows you are feeling better and that's something we are all VERY pleased about!
I'm pretty keen on all Trillium rivale , but your deep T. rivale is one of the darkest I have seen - a real beauty. 
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: John Kitt on September 25, 2013, 12:59:48 AM
I don't know whether it was in this thread that I posted info earlier this year re our local garden club holding a "Plant a Daffodil' day at the local school.
An up-date. 75 children participated and the intention was to show their efforts at the Daffodil Show conducted a week ago. " A picture is worth a thousand words."
Anyhow, the kids LOVED the experience and "can we plant tulips as well next year?" gives us great encouragement.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: rob krejzl on September 25, 2013, 01:08:05 AM
That rivale is something to lust after. I am so jealous.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 25, 2013, 11:05:31 AM
Wow Otto, that rivale is spectacular.  Congratulations!!

John,  I just love that sign.  Beautifully put!! :D

Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 25, 2013, 11:10:08 AM
I agree with Paul - the sign is both fun and also an understated tribute and encouragement to the children for their efforts.  8)


How often have gardeners - everywhere- said those words : You should have seen it last week!   :P
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: arillady on September 25, 2013, 11:58:02 AM
So pleased to see Otto and Paul back on.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 26, 2013, 10:39:01 AM
Nice rivale Otto...with more pink  ;)

A few things out atm...Im impressed with this Erythronium lasting and into its 3rd weeks

and a bettter picture of Trillium pusium var ozarkanum
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 26, 2013, 10:49:46 AM
Three easy Triliums.

The flexipes is so white standing tall

This sulcatum is so over fed that everything about it is big!

The rugelii with nodding flowers has the most sweetist scent on a still mornng like sweet candy. I was very surprised as some Triliums usually stink like wet dog or theres nothing.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 26, 2013, 10:56:06 AM
The hybrids are allways showing something differant...I love these surprises.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 26, 2013, 11:04:34 AM
Triilium luteum smells like lemons?..havnt noticed it yet

and stamineum almost black in colour
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 26, 2013, 11:15:50 PM
What a feast in this thread of late! Otto's T. rivale - what a stunner, the darkest I've seen. The flower arrangements are fantastic, what fascinating and beautiful waratahs. The trillium hybrids are gorgeous too. Many thanks for posting, everyone.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 26, 2013, 11:45:37 PM
You have a great collection of Trilliums at the Bot Garden Stephen. Obviously they like that almost alpine climate at Mt Tomah. Today I'll take my little pink T. rivale to our OAGG show for the weekend. It's just a seedling but still nice and a good colour - nothing like Otto's though! I'll take my camera too in case there's something worth a picture.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Lesley Cox on September 26, 2013, 11:52:37 PM
Those who attended the NZAGS Study Weekend in 2008, when the principle speaker was our Forum Moderator and BD, Ian Young, may remember these lovely prints which Ian brought with him. I missed out on the puffins but two arrived here after a long flight south. Perhaps they were diverted from a journey to visit penguins on the Otago Peninsula, or make the acquaintance of our Royal Albatrosses. Anyway, they now live with me and are safely framed with their gull friends.

Sorry they are photographed from the side somewhat. A window reflects on the glass if tackled head-on.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 27, 2013, 11:54:53 AM
Thanks Lesley and Anne.

I have Trilliums in pots and in the garden. The ones in pots just about out do the ones in the garden..more TLC in pots and they respond well. The climate here is just about right for many species.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Otto Fauser on September 28, 2013, 03:06:52 AM
Stephen  , you grow your Trilliums to perfection . I grow all mine in the garden where they are very happy ,but will try some in pots .
 your hybrids are beautiful . Did you do the crosses yourself ? I saw similar ones in Ian Christies nursery in2011.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Southern Hemisphere
Post by: Stephen Vella on September 28, 2013, 01:40:39 PM
Hello Otto,

thanks for saying.

No i didnt do the crosses. Some were suppose to be pure T sulcatum or erectum white so I suspect the bees have been busy and if grown next to each other as well with flexipes they will cross. I have sulcatum yellow and some have shades of pink, spashes and picotees. Will post some picks soon when they open.
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