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General Subjects => General Forum => Topic started by: John85 on July 22, 2013, 12:47:47 PM
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It is very easy to make a shade structure by covering the frame of a tunnel with a shade net instead of a plastic sheet.
But when the shading is no longer needed,I find it difficult to take if off without damaging the plants ,and to reinstal it again when needed,specially when you have to do it on your own.
Does anyone have a structure that is easier to handle or a good idea to build one (cheaply if possible).
I tried to make a kind of a tent with shade net over wires and gliding it on and off but it doesn't resist the wind very well
Needed surface:about 40 m2
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John I also will be interested to hear anyones ideas. My shading is always getting blown away. I have tried lots of things but nothing has worked.
Angie :)
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here are some pics from my "shade area"
I open in spring ( when the nights are frost free ) the Windows of my greenhouse - that I lay a shade net over it and fix it -ready !
In fall ( October - November ) I remove all and Close the windows...
In this area I grow : Haemanthus ( albiflos, pauculifolius, deformis), Cyrtanthus, Tulbaghia, Pamianthe, Scadoxus, Hippeastrum, Cryptostephanus, Eucrosia , Caliphuria ,Eucharis ...
Hans
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Very sensible Hans, obviously you have to plan ahead and buy a greenhouse with windows that open like that!
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Hans, in the photo "shade part 1" we can see that the roof vents of your grow house are closed - I would have thought you would have them open at this time of year - can you tell us a bit about how you ventilate that house in summer - is the open side enough?
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Brian ,
This Company sells greenhouses which you can open complete -please look
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Maggi ,
please look the new pics ....I think it all clear now
I need in summer no additional Ventilation ...there is always fresh air
In winter I have since the last years ( with very good succsess ) some Ventilators :
one which turns (for the tables)
and one or two for the plants under the tables ( all is full in winter ) ...there are my Cyclamen + Clivia +Cyrtanthus + Tulbaghia and and and ....
if possibly so I open the door in winter
the windows of the roof + side ( where is now the shade net ) open automatic if the temperatur reach + 10°
yesterday I had 42° inside the greenhouse :o
for the weekend the weather forecast says 38 -40° outside ....
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Thank you, Hans. :-* I see clearly now.
But - why have you the tails of three cats in a pot? :o ;) ;D ;D
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here is a old pic from inside ( before I have build the shade part )
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But - why have you the tails of three cats in a pot? :o ;) ;D ;D
Maggi ,
thats no cats ;D
thats tails of apes ;)
The name of this cacti is Hildewintera colademonones ( this means ape tails)
This plant was found and descripet from a nice friend of me : Wolfgang Krahn ( some cacti collectors here will know his Name)
Hans
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Maggi ,
thats no cats ;D
thats tails of apes ;)
The name of this cacti is Hildewintera colademonones ( this means ape tails)
This plant was found and descripet from a nice friend of me : Wolfgang Krahn ( some cacti collectors here will know his Name)
Hans
Cats, apes - at least I know a tail when I see one, eh? ;D
I was interested to see more of this lovely cactus and I found this :
http://www.huntington.org/BotanicalDiv/ISI2007/isi/2007-03.html (http://www.huntington.org/BotanicalDiv/ISI2007/isi/2007-03.html)
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Maggi ,
I have just made for you some actuell pics :
both species of Hildewintera together
CU of H.aureispina
CU of H.colademonones
front of my greenhouse ( you will see with your sharp eyes the the tables outside are now bigger :D)
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Both Hildewintera are handsome plants and their flowers are delightful. Your Cactus house seems a great success.
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I was interested to see more of this lovely cactus and I found this :
http://www.huntington.org/BotanicalDiv/ISI2007/isi/2007-03.html (http://www.huntington.org/BotanicalDiv/ISI2007/isi/2007-03.html)
Opps ..sorry but I had forget Prof. Lothar Diers to mentioned with the first description
The Name Hildewintera was createt from Friedrich Ritter ( he found this plant and descript it in honor of his sister Hilde Winter ( born as H.Ritter )
The botanists had many years believed that it is a montypic genus ...
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Hans thats brilliant, could you post me over one of those greenhouses please. Maybe just a wee bit to big to pop in a box ;D
Maggi I bet no cat would go into that prickly greenhouse. Has everyone noticed how tidy Hans is.
Today we need no shade as the sky is grey, not complaining, I really am happy to have the rain.
Angie :)
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Angie ,
I have sent you a mail with the adress ...
My cat Felix has often visit me in the greenhouse - sometimes he was sleeping inside -no Problem
Tidy ? why tidy ? ???
My wife thinks completly different !
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Thanks Hans. Looks really good.
Does Felix never get covered in prickles, maybe is a clever cat ;D When I had three cats they all used to sleep in the greenhouse and always on my favourite plants. One good thing I never had a mouse problem maybe its time I get another cat.
Angie ,
Tidy ? why tidy ? ???
My wife thinks completly different !
Pity you lived so far away Hans you could have a look in my greenhouse, I find it hard to keep tidy. There is always leaves, pots and watering cans everywhere, I do throw everything under the benches if I know I am getting a visit from a gardening friend. I can't see any mess in yours ;)
Angie :)
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Angie ,
I have simply no room for a mess under the benches ...I need every cm for pots ...
But - you should look my "potting shed" in our basement ::) ::) ::)
Hans ;)
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I always use the excuse for an untidy greenhouse that the 'good' insects also need living space so they can drive off the 'bad' insects - avoiding that 'biological vacuum' at any cost! ;)
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Angie
What surface do you need?
For a few M2 I use a frame covered with Dutch lights but with the glass replaced with shading net.They are very light and easy to put on and off and don't blow away(it is often very windy here).I use 30% net and if needed put two on top of each other giving the plants extra protection.
But I 'd like some good ideas for a bigger structure.
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Angie
What surface do you need?
For a few M2 I use a frame covered with Dutch lights but with the glass replaced with shading net.They are very light and easy to put on and off and don't blow away(it is often very windy here).I use 30% net and if needed put two on top of each other giving the plants extra protection.
But I 'd like some good ideas for a bigger structure.
John sorry for not replying sooner but had a wee stay in hospital. This is my greenhouse. I did buy green shading but was always finding it in the woods behind the greenhouse. I have heard that you can attach it to drainage pipes and roll in up and down. I tried that but it still ended up in the woods. It's really windy here.
Hopefully someone will gives us some more ideas.
Shade will be of son but would be nice to get something organised for next years scorcher of a summer ::) ;D
Angie :)
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Bit pricey Angie but maybe worth a read at least
http://www.greenhousesdirect.co.uk/Accessories/Shading/ (http://www.greenhousesdirect.co.uk/Accessories/Shading/)
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Thanks David for the link. I will get hubby to measures and see what I would require. My friends have just had a Hartley greenhouse built and they have lovely blinds that are fitted inside, really posh looking but what a shock I got when they told me what the blinds cost. My husband would kill me if I spent that much on shade. It was more that what my greenhouse cost him to build.
I think I will get away with four blinds so thats not to bad I think, birthday soon so that would be a nice present ;D
Thanks again.
Angie :)
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Angie
It seems that you have no roofvents on your greenhouse.Why not then put a cable on the top of the roof and another close to the gutter.
Are there like buttonholes in your shade net?Otherwise one can buy clips with a hole in it.You run the cables through the holes.Then you can glide your net as you wish,not on the top but on the side of the roof ot the greenhouse.
That is what I have done.
I have also attached a string in the middle of the side of the net to make it easy to pull it over the glass and another to fold it.
It is very cheap(specially as you already have the net) and efficient even in a windy spot.
I hope you understand my messy explanation???
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Angie
It seems that you have no roofvents on your greenhouse.Why not then put a cable on the top of the roof and another close to the gutter.
Are there like buttonholes in your shade net?Otherwise one can buy clips with a hole in it.You run the cables through the holes.Then you can glide your net as you wish,not on the top but on the side of the roof ot the greenhouse.
That is what I have done.
I have also attached a string in the middle of the side of the net to make it easy to pull it over the glass and another to fold it.
It is very cheap(specially as you already have the net) and efficient even in a windy spot.
I hope you understand my messy explanation???
Your explanation was perfect. Another nice sunny day here so I can honestly say that I need the shade on the greenhouse this year. Last year was a terrible year and shade wasn't even in my thoughts.
No roof vents in the greenhouse as it was cheaper to buy the big panes of toughened glass without the vents ::)
Thanks for sharing your ideas.
Angie :)