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Title: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: ashley on June 25, 2013, 11:21:45 PM
Rather late to be starting this thread perhaps :-\

Pelargonium 'Ardens' has been flowering for the last month or so, and at last I am managing to propagate it (slowly).  Such a rich colour.
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: mark smyth on June 25, 2013, 11:26:47 PM
Definitely a fantastic plant. How are you propagating it? If you like this you should also like
Shannon
Schotii
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: ashley on June 25, 2013, 11:42:27 PM
Wow, those are wonderful Mark 8)

'Ardens' sometimes produces new growing points with leaves at nodes in the flower stems.  I've also found that tips can be taken as cuttings, causing the cut stem to produce new side shoots (some of which can also be taken when large enough). 

Lots more beauties here (http://pelargonium.janedgar.net/).
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: David Nicholson on September 17, 2013, 07:27:55 PM
I've just acquired  a few tubers each of Geranium macrostyllum and G. transversale. I've no experience of growing either and would welcome some advice please.
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: mark smyth on September 17, 2013, 08:50:21 PM
I've just acquired  a few tubers each of Geranium macrostyllum and G. transversale. I've no experience of growing either and would welcome some advice please.

David I tried both outside in troughs and lost both
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: brianw on September 17, 2013, 10:47:32 PM
I noticed Geranium tuberosum in expensive packets with the spring bulbs in the garden centre last week.
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: mark smyth on September 18, 2013, 01:10:03 AM
Brian out of interest how much were they? Its a great plant for the garden
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: John85 on September 18, 2013, 06:52:02 AM
They need good drainage and soil that is not too heavy.I grow them in a slightly raised bed improved with a bit of coarse sand.Don' t forget to put a label as they disappear in midsummer .
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: David Nicholson on September 18, 2013, 09:35:38 AM
John, thanks very much for that. I read on Paul Christian's Site that transversale needs a dry Summer rest and that might be the reason for Mark loosing his, did you find that? I also found on a Forum search that Shelagh (from Bury) grows it, I might drop her a PM.

I got my tubers from Eugenijus Dambruscas (Augis Bulbs) 50 cents each and he supplies excellent quality in all his stock whatever species.


www.augisbulbs.com/catalog.php?c=53 (http://www.augisbulbs.com/catalog.php?c=53)

Edit by maggi to add a missing "w" in the url!
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: Paul T on September 19, 2013, 08:35:52 AM
David,

Geranium tuberosum grows happily enough for me here, although could do with a repot.  Obviously we do get the warmer summers, but it is in a small pot completely out in the open so the winter cold we get here isn't a problem at least.
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: David Nicholson on September 19, 2013, 09:09:25 AM
Thanks Maggi.

Great to see you again Paul. I think I'll try in a pot first.
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 19, 2013, 10:42:21 AM
I've just acquired  a few tubers each of Geranium macrostyllum and G. transversale. I've no experience of growing either and would welcome some advice please.
I bought some tuberous Geraniums from Janis a few years ago. They are in a sunny border and perform reliably every spring.
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: Darren on September 19, 2013, 11:01:14 AM
The only tuberous geranium we grow is malviflorum which does extremely well in a dry sunny area with bearded Iris. It was completely unaffected by the hard winters of 2009 - 2011. It is also very attractive and I can recommend it.

And if it grows in Lancashire it obviously doesn't mind a bit of summer rain!

Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 19, 2013, 11:31:15 AM
I bought some tuberous Geraniums from Janis a few years ago. They are in a sunny border and perform reliably every spring.
To be accurate, Janis described the first one as Geranium "macrophyllum" 'Marocco'. I don't think G. macrophyllum is a valid species; Janis wasn't sure as to the identity.
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on September 19, 2013, 11:48:33 AM
Hi Paul! Big hugs from me!!

I'm interested to hear of these plants doing well in various parts of the UK -  maybe I should try some ( being tuberous I may be able to sneak them past the BD!)
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: John85 on September 19, 2013, 12:23:37 PM
G.tuberosum grows very well in a pot .I forgot one outside last autumn in a very exposed location.It suffered -7°c for a few night and was still fine this spring .The potting mixture was very free draining.
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: brianw on September 19, 2013, 09:53:54 PM
"Brian out of interest how much were they? Its a great plant for the garden"

Just got back there today. £4.79 for 10 "bulbs". Labelled "Bulbs for naturalising" I think. Dutch packaging.There is a small range of the less common bulbs under this label, all at this price for a pack. I recall Avon bulbs selling a bulbous Geranium many years ago (15?) but were uncertain which it was. I may still have a neglected pot among the weeds somewhere, though other geraniums may have self seeded in it since so not exactly traceable.
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: mark smyth on September 20, 2013, 01:06:30 AM
Geranium tuberosum is a brilliant plant in my garden. It came through winter 2010
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 02, 2013, 08:00:44 AM
I showed a pic of this Aussie hybrid pelargonium a few years ago; it's called "Mallee Magic" but I've had little luck in propagating it, :(
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: Mini bulb lover on October 21, 2013, 07:49:44 AM
I place the pot with this tuberous pelargonium anethifolium (or possibly it's P.triste?) under a table in the garden once it starts dying back in late spring - early summer so that it stays completely dry (although we generally have dry summers here and the woman I bought it from says it grows successfully in the ground ). It was grown from seed. I start watering it again mid - late autumn and give it some all purpose fertiliser. The flowers become quite fragrant in the evening. It's in a free draining potting mix (she uses 2 parts coarse sand, 1 part well rotted leaf compost, 1/2 part garden loam) and is in a position that receives afternoon shade.
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: mark smyth on October 21, 2013, 08:46:00 AM
very nice Jon.
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: zephirine on October 21, 2013, 04:40:08 PM
Oh yes, good to read you again, Paul!  :-*
Maggi, Geranium tuberosum has perfomed nicely(I didn't say "thrived"!) in the garden for me, here in my zone 7B,  in the last 18 months.
So does G. malviflorum (since 2007, came through the dreadful 2011-2012 winter!), but it's still in its pot (in a sheltered half-shade place,but in the open, no special protection). I dare not plant it in the soil...maybe I'll try next spring!
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 08, 2013, 07:04:46 AM
Does anyone know what this annual gernaium might be?
It came in a pot from a friend in a cooler climate so I've kept it in the shade-house - it's now seeding itself "gently" around in other pots but i wonder if it would go feral if I planted it out,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: mark smyth on November 08, 2013, 09:19:08 AM
I haven't had that Geranium for years and years - G. biuncinatum
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 08, 2013, 11:20:16 AM
Thanks, Mark,
I didn't realise it came from Saudi Arabia!
Do you no longer grow it because it can be invasive?
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on November 08, 2013, 11:43:47 AM
There's an old thread on this plant : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=3231.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=3231.0)
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on November 08, 2013, 11:50:53 AM
There's an old thread on this plant : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=3231.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=3231.0)
Before you ask, no, we didn't get it from Paul T! ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: mark smyth on November 08, 2013, 07:45:40 PM
Fermi my plants just dwindled away. This Geranium is very capable of producing seeds without flowering

If you ever have spare seeds I'd like to see how they would do growing in sand in the green house
Title: Re: Geraniaceae 2013
Post by: maggiepie on November 09, 2013, 03:02:42 AM
I finally found seed for G. biuncinatum and much to my delight they sprouted like weeds.
After watching them for weeks I saw no sign of flowers but lots of seeds and then LOTS of seedlings.
Finally saw a flower which shattered a few seconds after taking pics. I consider myself lucky to have seen it.
Pulled the plant out and for past few years have been pulling seedlings out.
I am in zone 4b which gets down to -30C in winter. I shudder to think how this plant could spread in a warm climate such as Australia.

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