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Title: tulipa
Post by: dominique on December 08, 2007, 10:15:15 PM
I don't know if some of you are interested by the genus Tulipa. I see no topic on them. Let me create one and I begin by the leaves of Tulipa saxatilis which are very developped in autumn but resist well  and are not frozen until -12°C (perhaps more...?) When there is only one leave by bulb, the plant is too young to bloom. If a second or third appears, it's a good sign. I have to wait still.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on December 09, 2007, 08:26:17 AM
Dominique I grow many Tulips. Some can be seen here http://www.marksgardenplants.com/tulips.htm (http://www.marksgardenplants.com/tulips.htm) I have to update the page because it is a few years old
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on December 09, 2007, 10:42:56 AM
Don't worry Dominique there are quite some Tulipa lovers around as well. ;)

Look at the threads from March and April earlier this year.

http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=361.0
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=426.0

So far no sign of tulips above ground over here, but I have them all outside in the garden.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on December 09, 2007, 12:03:25 PM
I have many above ground now
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: hadacekf on December 09, 2007, 05:25:48 PM
Tulipa saxatilis is a lovely species, perfectly easy and hardy but not flowering freely!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: dominique on December 09, 2007, 09:50:59 PM
Hi Mark, Luc, Franz
Thank you for your replies . I grows saxatilis free in the garden too . It's better for them to stay underground, but many leaves, few flowers as sylvestris.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Lvandelft on December 18, 2007, 06:56:12 PM
Not very alpine but nevertheless, yesterday I saw at the weekly
flowershow in Lisse NL. this very nice tulip. I think for this time of year it looks very good.
Luit van Delft
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Lvandelft on January 14, 2008, 07:17:35 PM
Today I saw at the weekly flowershow in Lisse some nice little tulips, which I think are worth
to show in the Forum.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: David Nicholson on January 14, 2008, 07:22:49 PM
Nice tulips Luit.

Apologies if you have answered this before but are the weekly shows you attend competative shows for amateur growers or are they trade shows please?
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Lvandelft on January 14, 2008, 07:52:46 PM
Nice tulips Luit.

Apologies if you have answered this before but are the weekly shows you attend competative shows for amateur growers or are they trade shows please?
No, problem David, eh,  ???  I had to look back in my posts.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=947.msg22898#msg22898 (ftp://http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=947.msg22898#msg22898)
It is mostly a show for professionals, but amateurs could show interesting plants as well.
There is a special cool and light showhall in a Bulb Trade Center (CNB Lisse).
There are committees for many groups of bulbs and plants, but if somebody wants to know the meaning
of a special committee, he has to announce some days before.
The show is every Monday and committees start at eleven.
If anybody would have the possibility to have a look there, (when in Holland) can contact me.
I will be there most Monday-mornings.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: David Nicholson on January 14, 2008, 07:54:15 PM
Thank you Luit
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Katherine J on January 15, 2008, 08:08:36 AM
Hello Luit,
this goes on EVERY Monday, or just in special part(s) of the year?
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Lvandelft on January 15, 2008, 01:43:25 PM
Hello Luit,
this goes on EVERY Monday, or just in special part(s) of the year?
Yes Kathrine, iedere week, just around Christmas time maybe two weeks not and for instance not at Easter Monday and the Monday after Whitsun-Monday, Pinksteren or Pfingsten, hope you will understand me?
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Katherine J on January 15, 2008, 03:30:33 PM
hope you will understand me?
Yes, I do.  :) And thanks.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on January 27, 2008, 03:03:53 PM
Dominique,

Tulips are my passion and I've been growing these wonderful flowers for over 15 years. My collection counts around 250 cultivars from different divisions. You can have a look at my website:
www.vintagetulips.narod.ru

The English version will be ready in near future but so far you can study the Russion version with the help of Altavista stanslator.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: David Nicholson on January 27, 2008, 03:32:19 PM
I look forward to your English version Zhirair, will you please let us know as soon as it is available.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on January 27, 2008, 10:13:05 PM
Dominique,

Tulips are my passion and I've been growing these wonderful flowers for over 15 years. My collection counts around 250 cultivars from different divisions. You can have a look at my website:
www.vintagetulips.narod.ru

The English version will be ready in near future but so far you can study the Russion version with the help of Altavista stanslator.

Zhirair,
you have a great tulip collection! :o I think it will be a enrichment if your web site is available in English,too.
However, until then - please do not hesitate to post your tulip species on the forum!
It is an exiting outlook.
brgds
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: dominique on January 28, 2008, 12:45:00 AM
Hi Zhirair,
I am glad to see an other  tulip's lover. These plants are fabulous and give a good time after Narcissus, even some species flower together. The last one, Tulipa sprengeri flowers until the begin of june and T. polychroma since february for the botanic species. I wait the season to see your pics of them. Friendly
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 28, 2008, 09:00:10 AM
Wow Zhirair !
What a site - I don't understand a word - but saw some images that look verrrrrrrrrrrrrrry promising.  I'll also avidly await the English version before exploring the site in full depth - I don't want to miss anything.  ;D

Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Thomas Huber on January 28, 2008, 11:04:06 AM
Well done, Zhirair!
Please send a short note, when you've finished the English version!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on January 29, 2008, 09:04:12 AM
Guys, thanks a lot for compliments. There is a some workl letf to be done for the Russian version, and then I'll get into the English one. Even the gallery part is not finished yet and the most georgious pics are not yet posted. Of course, I will let you know is soon as the English version is ready.  My most favourite tulip is tulipa Greigii and its cultivars, which knock me out by its magical beauty; and lately I am mainly concentrted in getting its varieties, especially of D.W. Lefeber's introduction. Among the species, I like tulipa clusiana varieties most of all, which have a special beutiful shape. My interest also gows to Dutch non-commercial tulips, non-dutch (Japanies, Latvian, Chzes and Soviet tulips).
Here a couple of pisc of some oddball  Latvian-bred tulip varieties (the green one is bred by V. Scuja, which has twisted pistils and is multiflowering at the same time, the other one is selection of another Latvian breeder J. Egle with near black flowers.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Maggi Young on January 29, 2008, 10:53:33 AM
Oh my goodness, that 'melnupe' pic is like an old painting, how pretty!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 10, 2008, 05:22:13 PM
Here's Tulipa pulchella violacea pushing through (1 & 2)
+ red dwarf tulip of wich the name was lost decades ago  ;D - still pretty and always the first to flower.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on February 10, 2008, 05:28:31 PM
Luc,
very nice - but are they flower in the coldhouse or outside?
If outside - I will believe in global warming...
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 10, 2008, 05:53:55 PM
You'd better believe in global warming Armin  ;D - this is definitely outside in the garden...
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Diane Whitehead on February 10, 2008, 06:48:50 PM
A friend here in Canada, who breeds striped auriculas (Primula)
and flies over to auricula meetings in the U.K., somehow managed
to join a British society of old tulips.  She received a collection of
old tulips as part of her membership.  I don't have any photos of
them, but I think they are mostly striped.
It is the Wakefield and North of England Tulip Society,
founded in 1836.  One of the old tulips they grow is from about
1790.  http://www.johnwdesigns.co.uk/tulip/index_Page336.htm


Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on February 10, 2008, 08:30:10 PM
You'd better believe in global warming Armin  ;D - this is definitely outside in the garden...

Oh Jesus! :o Tulips outside flowering in February... ::)
Most of my own tulips have first leaves out but no buds visible yet.
Seem to be still in normal schedule...
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: dominique on February 10, 2008, 09:11:07 PM
Here's Tulipa pulchella violacea pushing through (1 & 2)
+ red dwarf tulip of wich the name was lost decades ago  ;D - still pretty and always the first to flower.

Luc,
Your tulip seems an hybrid of Tulipa kaufmanniana named 'Showwinner. The marks on the leaves show that it has Tulipa greigii in its genes. Showwinner is always one of the first kaufmanniana to flower.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 11, 2008, 08:19:17 AM
Thanks Dominque !
I didn't have the faintest idea - bought them in a garden center long before I got really "hooked"  ;D
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on February 11, 2008, 11:02:08 AM
Diane Whitehead,

Many among those striped old tulips are virus-infected. So your friend should rather grow them far away from other varieties to somehow avoid spreading of virus
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Maggi Young on February 11, 2008, 11:04:41 AM
Quote
Many among those striped old tulips are virus-infected. So your friend should rather grow them far away from other varieties to somehow avoid spreading of virus

Yes, indeed, that is why we don't grow any striped tulips, lovely though many are. 
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on February 11, 2008, 02:00:46 PM
Maggi, yes really. It always makes me surprised how some nurseries sell virused tulips on rather high prices, even not warning that they can harm the other bulbs grown next to them.

Of course, they are striped cultivars, which are genetically virus-free, but for unexperienced growers it is quite difficult to identify virus among them. Though it is not that difficult.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Maggi Young on February 11, 2008, 02:29:16 PM
Zhirair, it worries me that no mention is made of the possibility of virus from these plants, as you say, when one knows it is easier to tell but for beginners this is not so. Although it is said that these cultivars are genetically virus free... I am not so sure: how can we tell that the virus, while not active in that tulip, may not be passed and made active to another plant? 
While I imagine that Diane's friend is well aware of such dangers... as an auricula grower she should be :P.....there must be many people unaware of the history of virus in some plants which makes them, for some of us, too big a risk!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on February 12, 2008, 08:42:08 AM
Maggi, I quite agree with you. Among the nurseries, which offer such kind of tulips are:
http://www.pc-nijssen.nl/frameset_onlinebestellen.php
http://www.oldhousegardens.com

Virus-free striped varieties are discribed as true broken-tulips, and the infected ones - just broken tulips.

However, it is not so difficult to identify the virus in rembrandt (true-broken) tulips. If one is well familliar with the characteristics of a cultivar it becoms easier. In case of catching virus, stripes of other colour(s) appear on the petals, which are not characteristic fot the variety. Besides, one can observe mosaic on the leaves. In some varieties mosaic is not easily seen, so the leaves should be carefully observed. Anyway, one need suficient experience to easily identify viruses on striped rembrandt tulips.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: viovaslui on February 14, 2008, 07:55:59 AM
Hello.Sorry i bad english.I am from Romania.I am profesionist beekeeping and i have 120 sorts of tulips.I want to exhange in autumn tulip bulbs.Please visit my blog.
http://viovaslui.myblog.ro/
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on February 14, 2008, 08:35:15 AM
Hello viovaslui welcome to the SRGC web site. There is another Romanian member. Your English is better than my Romanian!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: dominique on February 26, 2008, 01:42:36 AM
All van Toll varieties are historical plants. Here is the first : Cochineal

Tulipa Duc van Tol Cochineal
 Tulipa edulis
 Tulipa humilis Pink Charm
 Tulipa polychroma
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 26, 2008, 08:20:42 AM
Great series to start off your season Dominique - could you tell us a bit more about these van Toll varieties - the one you're showing looks very good indeed.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on February 27, 2008, 11:45:07 AM
Luc,

Duc van Tolls are very old family of draft early-blooming tulips, which used to be classified in a separate division. Presently they are included in Single Early division and gave birth to many Single Early tulip cultivas.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: dominique on February 27, 2008, 11:49:28 AM
 Thank you zhirair for this reply. It is true. It is said too that these old tulips would come from a cross with the wild Tulipa schrenckii
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on February 29, 2008, 06:49:38 PM
Dominique, nice cuties those Duc van Tol.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Gerdk on March 02, 2008, 05:01:22 PM
Here is Tulipa binutans - a nice small tulip from Ruksans

Gerd
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on March 02, 2008, 05:14:57 PM
Hallo Gerd!
what a beauty with nice fine markings outside. 8)
Something for the cold house or it can stay outside?
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Gerdk on March 02, 2008, 05:48:39 PM
Armin,
My reference book (Tulips by R. Wilford) does not note any details for cultivation. But Tulipa binutans is a member of the T.biflora -T. turkestanica aggregate , species which are hardy outside. As a precaution I kept this plant inside.

Gerd
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Casalima on March 02, 2008, 05:50:13 PM
Gerd,
It's gorgeous - so delicate!

Chloë
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on March 02, 2008, 05:58:41 PM
Gerd, thanks.
Must visit you and your garden!
Give you a call...
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Gerdk on March 02, 2008, 06:23:43 PM
Abgemacht ! It's a go  :)

Gerd
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Hans J on March 05, 2008, 03:02:27 PM
Hi all ,

Here comes a question for a Tulip ID :

Knows anybody this species ?

It comes from south west Turkey ( received via a friend ) and I grow it since some years without problems in my bulbframe .

Any ideas are welcome

Thank you
Hans
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on March 05, 2008, 03:59:07 PM
I have Tulips flower now also but I'm worrying how early they are. Remember my slug eaten T. sogdiana? I potted them and a few have managed to flower but very poorly. The first to flower every year is 'Heart's Delight'. I also have some humilis showing full colour and many more in bud.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 05, 2008, 04:03:11 PM
It's frightening isn't it Mark - I had T. pulchella violacea and another hybrid flowering on February 10th (see earlier post)  ::)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Maggi Young on March 05, 2008, 04:23:59 PM
Hans, given the region of origin... perhaps Tulipa undulatifolia, sometimes shown as a synonym of T. eichleri?  Tulipa armena is another possibility.... again, from the region, that would be T. armena var. lycica..... dear me, one red tulip with glaucous wavy leaves is quite like another, isn't it? And since it is so hard to be 100 sure of the name of what one is growing, then it is harder still..... at least you know the area yours came from! I think we need our Forumists, Ibrahim, in Turkey and Zhirair, a tulip specialist to come to our aid  ??? 8) 8)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Hans J on March 05, 2008, 04:34:12 PM
Hi Maggi ,

Thank you for your opinion !
My idea was also T. armena - I'm not shure if this area is still Lycia ....
the plants was found beween Gaziantep - Malatya ( on 1500 m )...if this is a help 8)
Yes -I hope too for our specialists ....
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Maggi Young on March 05, 2008, 05:25:16 PM
Hans, I believe that T. armena var. lycica differs not only in the area of its distribution but also in the bulb tunic, from T. armena armena.... the tunic of  var lycica is all lined with thick soft hairs.... something to check when next you dig one up!!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on March 06, 2008, 06:57:09 PM
Hans,
how large in cm is this tulipa?
The flower resembles T.eichleri but the leaves are much broader.
T.eichleri is 25-30+cm usual.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Hans J on March 06, 2008, 07:08:24 PM
Armin ,

After a short look in the cold :
The plant has a high of of 15 cm .....

Any ideas ?
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on March 06, 2008, 07:36:44 PM
Hans,
the only ideas I still have in mind
T. stapfii...but has extended flower tops but can't clearly see on your pix...hmm :-\
Tulipa julia...from Turkey/Iran/Armenia but I don't have a good reference picture...hmm :-\
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Hans J on March 06, 2008, 07:49:20 PM
Armin ,

Many thanks so far - if you have other ideas let me know
I hope I can send in few days other ( also unnamed ) Tulipa species ...
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Gerry Webster on March 17, 2008, 05:01:56 PM
Do you know the difference beetween Tulipa linifolia and Tulipa maximowicziana
                                                    Tulipa montana and Tulipa wilsonniana
Mine seem the same

Dominique,   According to Brian Mathew ('The Smaller Bulbs') the only difference between  T. linifolia and T. maximowicziana is that the latter has a border of white around the central dark eye. Mathew states that T. montana and T. wilsoniana are the same thing.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: afw on March 17, 2008, 08:25:36 PM
Do you know the difference beetween Tulipa linifolia and Tulipa maximowicziana
                                                    Tulipa montana and Tulipa wilsonniana
Mine seem the same

Dominique,   According to Brian Mathew ('The Smaller Bulbs') the only difference between  T. linifolia and T. maximowicziana is that the latter has a border of white around the central dark eye. Mathew states that T. montana and T. wilsoniana are the same thing.

Richard Wilford writes in Tulips(Species and Hybrids for the Gardener) that  the difference between T.
maximowiczii and T. linifolia is the T. max.. has longer, more erect leaves and purple rather than yellow anthers, and that, indeed the other two are the same.

afw
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Gerry Webster on March 17, 2008, 09:06:53 PM
Alan, as you state, the correct name is : T. maximowiczii. Mathew  describes the anthers of T. linifolia as "blackish".

My own experience of plants received as T. montana and T. wilsoniana is that they are identical.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: I.S. on March 18, 2008, 10:53:10 AM
   Hans for your nice tulipa I will call 'Tulipa sintenesii' it is registered in that area Gaziantep and Just above at the Kahramanmaraş.  I am nearly sure 97 % for T. sintenesii,  2 % T. armena var. lycica and 1 % for T. armema var. armena.  ;D Tulipa julia is from more east of Tr.
Here a reliable source for these sipecieses. So you can check your other parts of your tulips. There are many photos and dried samples.
http://vanherbaryum.yyu.edu.tr/sus/index.htm

And if you have any other tulips from Turkey. I maybe help!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on March 19, 2008, 07:06:32 AM
Dominigue,

Actually, tulipa maximowiczii is very close in appearance with tulipa linifolia. The difference is that the leaves of tulipa m-ii are upword directed, not as with tulipa linifolia, which leaves are mainly grow in horisonatl direction. Besides, the other difference is that tulipa maximowiczii differes from tulipa linifolia by its small sky-blue base, while tulipa linifolia has larger jet black base.

Tulipa montana is red with bluish-black base. The tip of petals are rounded. it also can be of yellow colour. It also grows in our country.
Tulipa wilsoniana is deep blood red, the back of outer petals has purple shade. Base is black, anthers are yellow. The tips of petals are pointed.

Here is a last year picture of tulipa linifolia blooming in my garden.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on March 19, 2008, 07:12:21 AM
There is some chat about Tulipa wilsoniana on the Colchicum thread but I'll post the photos here. Here are the red and yellow forms
 Edit by M. :  the tulip related posts from the Colchicum thread have been moved to this thread.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on March 19, 2008, 07:24:01 AM
Mark,

Wonderful photos. Thanks for posting
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Paul T on March 19, 2008, 10:16:49 AM
Very nice, Mark.  8)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Gerry Webster on March 19, 2008, 11:12:44 AM
Zhirair, Very interesting. I think there is a lot of confusion about  plants commercially available under these names in Western Europe (or at least the UK).  Are your descriptions of T. wilsoniana & T. montana based on wild plants? It is my general impression & personal experience that bulbs sold here under these names  are the same. Your pic of T.linifolia looks identical to plants I have seen elsewhere & grow myself under this name. I have only seen once  a plant named T.maximowiczii & that was identical to T.linifolia.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on March 21, 2008, 05:41:40 AM
Gerry,

I keep in touch with different tulip growers, mainly from the countries (republics) of former Soviet Union and we discuss and exchange lots of different information and experience, related to tulips. Tulipa wilsoniana and tulipa montana, are, indeed, different species, though having many common features. Here is it easier to get true species.

I haven't seen tulipa montana here in Armenia in the wild, but my colleague has. He has even photographed it. His camera makes low quality pics, but anyway I will ask him to share them.

The situation in Europe is familliar to me. It is quite hard to obtain some true to name species. You're right, very often the same type of species sold under the name montana and  wilsoniana, but I think, it'll be easier to get true ones from individual small growers. The same applies to tulipa turkestanica; under this name quite often other species are sold.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: afw on March 21, 2008, 11:09:30 AM
Having admires BD's photo of T. Stapfii on the Bulb Log are there any suppliers of this and other Tulipa such as T. sogdiana, stylosa and similar hard to find tulipa?
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Diane Clement on March 21, 2008, 02:20:27 PM
Having admires BD's photo of T. Stapfii on the Bulb Log are there any suppliers of this and other Tulipa such as T. sogdiana, stylosa and similar hard to find tulipa?

The Plantfinder is the best place to source plants.  It is available on-line here
http://www.rhs.org.uk/rhsplantfinder/plantfinder.asp

you can enter in a full name or a genus (if you are unsure about the spelling).

T stapfii is listed with 5 suppliers, T sogdiana has 6 suppliers. T stylosa is not listed.  So then I would wonder about nomenclature changes and look it up in the Kew Mononcot database

http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/home.do

and guess what, it is no longer a valid name and the acceped name is T uniflora.  This ends up being no help as the Plantfinder does not list it this either.   

Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: DaveM on March 21, 2008, 02:21:26 PM
Zhirair, Looking at all these wonderful tulips, I am reminded that I still haven't identified one of the species I saw on a visit to north-west Iran a few years ago and included in an article on another part of the Rock Garden Club's website, but I'll post it again below. Photographed NW of Lake Orumiyeh. I hope you can help me.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Maggi Young on March 21, 2008, 02:23:13 PM
Hello, Diane,
 you may be able to help with this one.... Ian bought some bulbs from a young chap at Blackpool, did not get his name ( typical, Ian!) but got the impression that he was a local member selling his plants, perhaps from a new venture?  Do you, or John Forrest, perhaps,  know who the guy was?
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Maggi Young on March 21, 2008, 02:26:52 PM
For those of you who may not browse the main SRGC website, , here is a reminder ......
IRAN - Land of the upside-down tulip: Articles by David Millward on main SRGC website
Part one
http://www.srgc.org.uk/monthfeature/august2004/content.html
Part two
http://www.srgc.org.uk/monthfeature/march2005/content.html

Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Carlo on March 21, 2008, 02:50:52 PM
Thanks for the reference Maggi. I suspect that many others, like me, are so taken with the flights of fancy of  the Forum that they seldom go back to the mother ship.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Maggi Young on March 21, 2008, 03:00:22 PM
Mostly it is vistors to the main site that do not find the Forum , Carlo, but I like to just give a nudge here now and then! 8)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on March 21, 2008, 03:25:34 PM
The lovely T. iliensis is flowering in the garden now along with cretica. Both are suitable for troughs and rockeries
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: afw on March 21, 2008, 05:46:53 PM
Hi

According to Kew Tulipa Stapfii is a synonym for Tulipa Systola.

As you say, Diane, there are a few nurseries that appear to have it on their 2007 list.

I shall have to wait for their 2008 list.




Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Diane Clement on March 21, 2008, 09:01:10 PM
Hello, Diane,  you may be able to help with this one.... Ian bought some bulbs from a young chap at Blackpool, did not get his name ( typical, Ian!) but got the impression that he was a local member selling his plants, perhaps from a new venture?  Do you, or John Forrest, perhaps,  know who the guy was?

I think it was probably Andrew Lovell, who I think he comes from Ormskirk, near Southport.  He trades under the name Ad Hoc plants.  He is working very hard at trying to get a business going.  He always has an interesting selection of plants on his stall, sourced from all over, some seed grown, some bought in.     
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: afw on March 21, 2008, 10:05:29 PM
Hello, Diane,  you may be able to help with this one.... Ian bought some bulbs from a young chap at Blackpool, did not get his name ( typical, Ian!) but got the impression that he was a local member selling his plants, perhaps from a new venture?  Do you, or John Forrest, perhaps,  know who the guy was?

I think it was probably Andrew Lovell, who I think he comes from Ormskirk, near Southport.  He trades under the name Ad Hoc plants.  He is working very hard at trying to get a business going.  He always has an interesting selection of plants on his stall, sourced from all over, some seed grown, some bought in.     

Yes, Diane, it does look as though he is the supplier as it is on his 2007 list and hopefully 2008 too.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: David Nicholson on March 22, 2008, 09:35:57 AM
Ad Hoc Plants are well worth a try and Andrew Lovell has one of the best ranges around. His mail order plants are perhaps the best packed plants I have ever received.

There is other reference to Ad Hoc plants elsewhere in our ramblings (maybe on the old Forum) as a result of an unfortunate comment about them on a Dutch bulb nursery Web Site.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Lvandelft on March 27, 2008, 05:01:28 PM
While taking pictures in the Connoisseur Collection I saw
a lot of damage by frosts during last week.
Here a Tulipa fosteriana Hybr.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on March 27, 2008, 06:32:29 PM
I'll not be dealing with Ad Hoc again. Once bitten ...!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Tony Willis on March 27, 2008, 11:26:02 PM
This is a tulip flowering for the first time. I have no idea what it is bit it is quite delicate.It comes form Goktepe in SW Turkey
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: I.S. on March 27, 2008, 11:58:41 PM
  Mark your nice tulipa looks to me as a T. orphanidea from West Turkey but I am not sure.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: hadacekf on March 28, 2008, 08:21:05 PM
Here are some shots of Tulipa in meadow and bulb bed.

Tulipa-humilis
Tulipa-humilis
Tulipa-humilis
Tulipa-polychroma
Tulipa-turkestanica
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on March 28, 2008, 09:13:38 PM
Franz,
you have a nice collection of dwarf tulips.
The clump of T.polychroma is very beautiful. 8)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Gerdk on March 29, 2008, 07:15:00 AM
Franz,
Beautiful plants, superb pics - love the red ones!

Gerd
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Ian Y on March 29, 2008, 09:48:19 AM
Franz
Can I come and camp by your meadow? ;)
It is so beatuful I wish my Tulipa polychroma looked as good as yours instead they are battered by the snow, wind and rain and chewed by slugs.
I do love the small species Tulips - well they are the closest relative of Erythronium. ::)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on March 29, 2008, 11:31:21 AM
Is that the truth, Ian?

My T. humilis never have a stem like Franz' plants. The flowers are at ground level
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Gerry Webster on March 29, 2008, 02:09:25 PM
This is a tulip flowering for the first time. It comes form Goktepe in SW Turkey
Tony - Baytop & Mathew, 'The Bulbous Plants of Turkey' seems to confirm Ibrahim's identification of your tulip as T. orphanidea. They locate the plant in W & SW Turkey in rocky places & scrub up to 2000m . T.orphanidea is a very variable plant & subsumes forms recognised by some as distinct species such as T. hageri & T. whittalli. I grow plants acquired from Norman Stevens under all 3 names &, horticulturally, they are quite distinct - if I ever get around to buying  a camera I'll post pictures next year.

Ian -  do you know Norman's form of T. orphanidea? With its drooping flowers it looks rather like an orange-brown Erythronium - very attractive..
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: hadacekf on March 30, 2008, 08:09:54 PM

Ian,
you can come at any time!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: hadacekf on March 30, 2008, 08:10:19 PM
Thank you all together for the kind comments
Do not forget Mark, Tulipa humilis is a variable species.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on March 31, 2008, 06:21:36 AM
Mark,

My Ukrainian collegue Dima grows number of wild tulip types and his humilis is also taller. Here are some pics from his garden. The last pic  illustrates tulipa graniticola native to Ukrain. I suppose it is not famillar to many of you.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on March 31, 2008, 06:29:26 AM
The picture 'my wild tulips' illustrates also very famous non-Dutch kaufmanniana tulip 'Ljuba Shevtsova' (tall one), raised by talanted tulip specilaist from Uzbekistan Zinaida Bochantseva during 50s. It has exclusive decorative features and no analogues in Dutch selection. It somewhat resembles Janis' 'Ugam', but having considerably larger sizes growing up to 50-55 cm tall.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Lvandelft on March 31, 2008, 06:49:44 AM
The picture 'my wild tulips' illustrates also very famous non-Dutch kaufmanniana tulip 'Ljuba Shevtsova' (tall one), raised by talanted tulip specilaist from Uzbekistan Zinaida Bochantseva during 50s. It has exclusive decorative features and no analogues in Dutch selection. It somewhat resembles Janis' 'Ugam', but having considerably larger sizes growing up to 50-55 cm tall.
There are some good looking ones in your picture, Zhirair. But I presume this high one would
not have been selected in Holland because being too slender (wind!)
Nevertheless looking very interesting to me. Maybe my friend would like to try it here.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Paul T on March 31, 2008, 07:06:29 AM
Great pics.  Some beautiful Tulips, that is for sure.

So how are they kept separate?  I find that a number of the tulip species tend to migrate, both downwards and across in the ground, so how are they kept track of as to which is which when dormant (or isn't that a concern)?  I grow most of my species Tulips in pots for that reason, so that they are kept to themselves and only occasionally finding a bulb sitting on the weedmat under the pot (without the weedmat of course it would be down into the ground and free!!  ;D).
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on March 31, 2008, 09:17:09 AM
Paul,

we actually keep a track and write down the planting scheme. It's true many of the species tend to form long stolones and it is always kept in mind when harvesting. Besides, the species can be distinguished by thier bulb shapes.

In pots tulips usually not perform at their best and have smaller sizes than the same ones planted in the garden.

Luit, I think that the tall one could have been selected in Holland if it has been submitted for registration. Beccause the similar variety 'Ugam' (syn. 'Icestick') was already registered.
There were many interesting interspecific hybrids bred during Soviet era here, some I obtained last year and will show the pics when they are in bloom.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Ian Y on March 31, 2008, 09:37:20 AM
Ian -  do you know Norman's form of T. orphanidea? With its drooping flowers it looks rather like an orange-brown Erythronium - very attractive..

Gerry there are many of the small species Tulips that remind me of Erythroniums and I have an E. oregonum that every year holds its flower upright just like a tulip.

Franz thank you for the invite but for now I will just have to enjoy your pictures - may be one day.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 31, 2008, 10:34:02 AM
Great tulips everyone - look forward for more and for mine to start flowering in a couple of days with the weather somewhat improving at last.  ;D
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Maggi Young on March 31, 2008, 11:12:09 AM
Quote
The last pic  illustrates tulipa graniticola native to Ukrain. I suppose it is not familiar to many of you.
Indeed, Zhirair, I have not heard of this tulip, which seems very beautiful. Can you tell us a little more about it?
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 31, 2008, 07:55:27 PM
Got home at noon with the sun shining (what must be the first time in 3 weeks or so) and this is what I could admire :

1-2-3 Tulipa dubia beldersai (from Janis) - with quite some variation.

4 and 5 Tulipa vvedenskii x T. berkariense 'Morning Star' - From the same source.

Afterwards, I returned to work a happy man  :D
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: David Nicholson on March 31, 2008, 08:05:46 PM
Luc, you are doing it again!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: hadacekf on March 31, 2008, 08:38:08 PM
Luc,
Beautiful plants, superb pics
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Lvandelft on March 31, 2008, 10:41:13 PM
My Ukrainian collegue Dima grows number of wild tulip types and his humilis is also taller. Here are some pics from his garden. The last pic  illustrates tulipa graniticola native to Ukrain. I suppose it is not famillar to many of you.

Zhirair, I heard this is synonym with T. biebersteiniana.
Is this right?
I received an article (in kyrillic?) which I will send you by PM)

Quote
Luit, I think that the tall one could have been selected in Holland if it has been submitted for registration. Beccause the similar variety 'Ugam' (syn. 'Icestick') was already registered.

I saw and pictured it today and hope to post it soon in the Conn. Collection.
I liked it very much and believe only the smaller bulbs are a bit too slender.

Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Lvandelft on March 31, 2008, 10:45:15 PM
Got home at noon with the sun shining (what must be the first time in 3 weeks or so) and this is what I could admire :

Afterwards, I returned to work a happy man  :D

You 'SUNNY BOY'    8)

Beautiful tulips , Luc.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 01, 2008, 05:50:32 AM
Luc,
wonderful tulips, thanks. 'Morning Star' has a nice base.

Luit,
my 'Ugam' also starts blooming. It's quite right, smaller bulbs produce very tender stems. I hope to show the photos soon. As to tulipa graniticola, I'll make clear your question with my friend and let you know. So far I am placing another picture of it.

Maggi,
Tulipa kaufmanniana 'Ljuba Shevtsova' is a real eye-catcher of exceptional beauty. It was selected by Bochantseva from wild population of t. kaufmanniana in Uzbekistan and after the trials was introduced in culture and registered in 1950 in Soviet Union. Very many interesting varieties were bred by her, but unfortunately they become rare and rare day to day. So I am trying to obtain as much of her work as possible, multiply and then share with my friends. I am posting a couple of pics and a comparison pic, where it is shot with other faufmanniana tulips of Dutch selection. You can see the difference.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 01, 2008, 08:13:07 AM
Luit,

I just texted (sent an sms) to my Ukrainian friend asking about tulipa graniticola. He replied that tulipa graniticola has much common with tulipa biebersteiniana, and there are only slight diffeences. Anyway, Ukrainian bonanists condider t. graniticola as different species.
He's gonna e-mail me a detailed reply, which I will translate and post. 

Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 01, 2008, 12:19:02 PM
Luit,

my firend has just replied and that's what he wrote about tulipa graniticola: "Before it was considered as one species, that was tulipa tulipa biebersteiniana. But during 50s Ukrainian botanists Klokov and Zoz devided this species into several small subspecies, as the plants from different localities had slightly different features:
Tulipa graniticola
Tulipa hypanica
Tulipa ophiophylla
Tulipa quercetorum
Tulipa scythica
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on April 01, 2008, 08:59:24 PM
Beautiful pictures from everybody.

Zhirair,
thank you for tulipa graniticola and its subspecies from Ukraine.
Very interesting - never stop learning!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: afw on April 01, 2008, 09:10:37 PM

Quote
Beautiful pictures from everybody.

Zhirair,
thank you for tulipa graniticola and its subspecies from Ukraine.
Very interesting - never stop learning!


     
The following, very interesting  site, posted by Diane Clement,    http://apps.kew.org/wcsp/home.do) still puts all the above as synonyms of Tulipa beiberstaniana.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on April 01, 2008, 09:28:59 PM
Alan,
thanks for the link. This confirms what Luit said.
This confirms again there is much room for improvements in botanists naming nomenclature.
Maybe, future DNA analysis will sort it out...
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 02, 2008, 05:38:51 AM
I already have few tulips blooming in the garden.

kaumanniana 'Ugam', strangely 2 samples flowered much earlier
greigii 'Melodie d Amore' - again strange, it usually get 60-65 cm tall and one of the tallest greigii tulips. But this sample is only 25 cm
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 05, 2008, 08:13:24 PM
A few Tulips.
Tulip bakera lilac wonder.
Tulip montana.
Tulip vvedenskyii  hyb
This last one is especially for Maggi,with nice variegated foliage, :)
Tulip praestans unicum.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on April 06, 2008, 08:54:07 PM
Michael,
a nice dwarf Tulips collection.

Today T.kaufmannia hybrids open and T. praestans Unikum still having buds.

T.eichleri this year is only half the size (~15-20cm height) compared to the years before. I believe this is result from last years spring drought. (sorry for the poor picture quality)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Paul T on April 07, 2008, 05:54:21 AM
Love those variegated tulips.  Very, very rarely seen for sale here, and not that variety.  I think we had one for sale last year with a stripe around the outside of the leaf (i.e not as strongly variegated as in your pics) with a pinky flower?  I can't recall as only 2 of the 9 bulbs I bought actually grew, and I couldn't see any variegation on any of them so I assume they were incorrect!  :'(  Very dissapointing.  Would love to grow that one just posted.  Wow!!  :o 8)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 07, 2008, 08:29:24 AM
Paul,

if you so admire variegated leaves, I suppose you will be certainly impressed by brand new greigii tulip  'Fire of Love', which has mottled leaves with nice variegation. A real show-stopper for the people who appriciate the beauty of leaves
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/149304/
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Paul T on April 07, 2008, 10:07:28 AM
Oh....... I'm speechless!!!!!  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 07, 2008, 10:15:13 AM
Beautiful Tulips Michael and Armin - great show !  :D

Michael,
could you tell me under which name the x Vvedenskii JR is to be found in the Ruksans' catalogue ?  I haven't got that one yet and I find it a very firy orange..
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 07, 2008, 11:46:48 AM
Luc,

I suppose under the name 'Joker'
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 07, 2008, 12:26:31 PM
Luc,

I am sorry. It is 'Amberland', not 'Joker'.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 07, 2008, 12:34:37 PM
Thanks Zhirair !
Another extra for this year's order  ;D
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 07, 2008, 01:40:28 PM
Zhirair, Looking at all these wonderful tulips, I am reminded that I still haven't identified one of the species I saw on a visit to north-west Iran a few years ago and included in an article on another part of the Rock Garden Club's website, but I'll post it again below. Photographed NW of Lake Orumiyeh. I hope you can help me.

I suppose it is tulipa schrenkii
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 07, 2008, 05:10:29 PM
Quote
could you tell me under which name the x Vvedenskii JR is to be found in the Ruksans' catalogue ?  I haven't got that one yet and I find it a very firy orange..

Luc, it is not in the catalogue as far as I know,I got it as a sub because the one I ordered was sold out. I think it is one of his new hybs. It was labeled as Vvedenskyii N.R. 13/2, that is all the information I have.
cheers
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: hadacekf on April 07, 2008, 07:11:14 PM
I hope someone can help with identifying the following two Tulipa. The first were given to me by a friend who collected it on a mountain near Pamukkale (Turkey). The second come from a Garden Center.

Tulipa sp. Turkey
Tulipa sp. Garden Centre
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 07, 2008, 08:23:53 PM
Luc, it is not in the catalogue as far as I know,I got it as a sub because the one I ordered was sold out. I think it is one of his new hybs. It was labeled as Vvedenskyii N.R. 13/2, that is all the information I have.
cheers

Thanks Michael - Zhirair recognised it as "Amberland" and this does correspond with 13/2 in this year's catalogue.

Definitely one for my order !  ;D
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 09, 2008, 10:23:53 AM
Franz,

The first looks like tulipa pulchella, the other red one is an interspecific hybrid (greigii*kaufmanniana), but I am not sure about the name.

Currently I have my tulipa kaufmanniana "Ugam" ("Ice Stick") in bloom, which gives me a great joy by its inigue appearance, somewhat resembling a type of a bird. It is the one of the few kaufmannianas I like and appriciate very much. In my garden it grows up to 45 cm. All my visitors are admired.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: I.S. on April 10, 2008, 12:07:52 AM
   Franz your tulipes are impressive but I don't have any idea for name. I just checked from turkish plant data service I can not see any name as T. pulchella record. Is that a syn name for T. humilis?
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: hadacekf on April 10, 2008, 08:18:21 PM
Ibrahim, Zhirair

Thank you all together for the kind help.
T. pulchella is the  syn. name for T. humilis.

It looks not like Tulipa pulchella Zhirair, it is T. pulchella.
With the second tulip I thought also on a hybrid.
Zhirair, you have a wonderful bulb collection.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 11, 2008, 05:57:19 PM
More wonderful Tulips people ! Thanks a lot.

Here are two flowering with me at the moment :

1 - 2) Tulipa montana - stems quite a bit shorter compared to last year - (might the continuing chilly weather  be the reason ???)  They don't come much redder than this do they ???

3 - 4) Tulipa vvdenskyi x T. mogoltavica 'Girlfriend' - from Janis and shown earlier by Michael.

Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Gerdk on April 11, 2008, 07:10:42 PM
Luc,
Beautiful shots - I like the compact growth of T. montana. I am glad that I acquired 2 plants at the Snowdrop event in Oirlich.

Gerd
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: hadacekf on April 11, 2008, 08:50:40 PM
Tulipa praecox - A robust species of unknown wild origin. It has established itself in various mediterranean regions including my garden.

Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Susan Band on April 12, 2008, 08:29:03 AM
Beautiful Tulip Franz. The last picture is amazing, its like something you would see in an Art gallery :)
Susan
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Paul T on April 12, 2008, 08:32:41 AM
Great tulips!!  Love that glorious red on the T. montana Luc.  8)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Hans A. on April 12, 2008, 09:50:37 AM
Luc and Franz - thanks for this wonderful photos - one thing is to grow this plants and the other to make such perfect pics. :D
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Jim McKenney on April 12, 2008, 01:46:48 PM
Franz, thanks for posting the images of Tulipa praecox. It’s one of my favorite tulips, although it’s been years since I’ve had it in the garden.

The first image and the last image show Tulipa praecox as I know it. But the middle two images puzzle me. Are all four images from the same group of plants?

One distinguishing characteristic of Tulipa praecox, the difference between the length of the inner tepals (shorter) and the outer tepals (longer) shows up well in the first and fourth image. But the second and third images, perhaps because the flowers are mostly closed, do not seem to show that.

Also, the color of the two groups is not the same. In the first and fourth images I see the old  Morocco red of Tulipa praecox with its undertones of brown.  But the second and third images are a much brighter and different red. 

Isn’t Tulipa praecox a clone? Shouldn’t they all be very much alike?

In any case, wonderful images and thanks for posting them!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: hadacekf on April 12, 2008, 08:36:27 PM
Thank you all together for the kind comments

Jim, NoTulipa praecox not a clone. The bulbs were collected at different places.
I have several groups of P. praecox in the garden. The photographs were taken on different days. Therefore the appearance and the colors can be not alike.
Let me know if you like this tulip.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on April 12, 2008, 09:33:32 PM
Luc,
beautiful red T.montana 8) I had it some years ago but disliked my loamy soil :'(

Franz,
T. praecox is desireable. Will put it on my wishlist.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on April 13, 2008, 09:04:06 PM
Zhirair 'Ugam' is stunning. I could fill my beds with that Tulip. Is it commercially available?

Franz your red tulips has such a good shine to it. Lovely
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on April 13, 2008, 09:07:56 PM
I just Googled 'Ice Stick' and found lots of US suppliers but none in UK
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 14, 2008, 05:34:48 AM
Mark,

Don't go far. "Ugam" is sold by J. Ruksans (it is his introduction). It is so graceful and eligant! This year it got 55 cm tall, while the flowers are 9 cm.

Mark, another advise for you. You were interested in some greigii and kaufmanniana tulips to obtain for your collecton. Keep an eye on greigii "China Lady". It is not easily availale, but has fantastically beautiful flowers of tulipa greigii shape (not intermediate) and dwarf habit (your taste), not to mention the colour...
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: olegKon on April 14, 2008, 10:07:35 AM
Can anyone help identify this tulip species? I received 3 rice-grane bulblets from a friend. They are believed to be from the stepps of Kalmikija (South Russia). This is the first time I have flowered them. All happend to be different species (a piece of luck). This one is the first to open the bud. Outer side of the outer petals is grey. On the background there is Merendera sobolifera which being a small plant in its own right looks a giant compared to this tiny tulip
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on April 14, 2008, 07:20:50 PM
All these great Tulips are driving me nuts  ::) ;D
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: David Nicholson on April 14, 2008, 07:33:45 PM
I don't grow many tulips as the hybrids don't seem to appreciate the windy conditions in my garden, but I couldn't resist trying these two but I'm growing them in pots so I can move them if it gets too windy. Tinka and Lady Jane.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on April 14, 2008, 08:13:02 PM
I just love T. clusiana and it's cultivars. I used to have them all but the choice ones are going fast. Later I'll post what is supposed to be a special but it looks nothing special to me
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: David Nicholson on April 14, 2008, 09:04:25 PM
Shows what I know about Tulipa, I didn't know mine were clusiana cultivars. I must learn!!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on April 14, 2008, 11:35:51 PM
I could be wrong but there are
clusiana
clusiana chrysanthe
'Honky Tonk'
'Lady Jane'
bought as ? but could be T. c. chrysanthe
'Sheila'
'Tubergen's Gem'

If anyone has any views feel free to comment
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: mark smyth on April 14, 2008, 11:44:19 PM
David, my experience is T. clusiana dont like pot culture. Mine are now seeding in my raised beds so in a few years I might have some good colours coming out.

One I keep forgetting to post is the pink form of Tulipa humilis ochroleuca caerulea - or whatever it goes by. Although pinkish as it changes from green buds the pink is long gone once fully opened. I know technically Tulips don't open. The colour isnt white either. Like the Erythroniums shown earlier these Tulips are in 1L long toms.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 15, 2008, 05:53:33 AM
David, Mark,

wonderful photos. Clusiana tulips are my favourites among botanical tulips and I am adored by the beauty of those cultivars. "Lady Jane" and "Tinka" are the most vigorous and largest varieties among clusiana tulips.

David, I agree with Mark, clusiana tulips (and all tulips in general) grow better in the garden. From my experience I can say that for succesful pot culture you should plant them in very big pots. Each bulb needs a lot of enegy to grow good replcement bulb. A single bulb of a garden variety for good harvest needs minimum 3 litre pot. I usuallly use pot culture for quarantining new tulips under cold glass. When I see that everything is O.K. and they are free of viruses I plant them in my garden.

Oh, I forgot to metion that because of land shortage, I grow some varieties on the roof of our garage in very big pots. Those I plant in early spring (bulbs are kept in an unheated room during winter), because many bulbs don't survise winter colds.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Lvandelft on April 15, 2008, 07:04:23 AM
Zhirair, this T. Bucchus has a very special colour. Beautiful!
Looking at the colour it could be named "Bacchus" too? Cheers.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on April 15, 2008, 08:13:58 AM
Luit,

Tulip "Bucchus' is among my favourites. In is a very old tulip from Breeder family, in which I am very interested.
Indeed, it has very special colour - clear dark blackish violate without any magenta and reddish shades specific for most modern purple cultivars.

Last year my collection was added by another old breeder 'brown' tulip' "Dom Pedro" and I am impatiently wait for its blooming.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Tony Willis on April 15, 2008, 04:57:06 PM
Sorry it is an awful picture and the flowers have been nibbled but this is tulipa armena from Tortum in Turkey. The bulb has produced three flowers.
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Post by: Gerdk on April 15, 2008, 06:08:49 PM
Here is a Tulip from Crete -

Please help with identification

is it Tulipa saxatilis ?

Gerd
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Post by: tonyg on April 15, 2008, 11:09:38 PM
Gerd
It looks quite small, could it be Tulipa cretica?  I grow this, quite distinct from all the other tulip species that I grow.  It has flowers not much bigger than a crocus!  I think of T saxatilis as being much bigger and more pink in flower.
I have attached a couple of pictures for comparison with yours.
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Post by: Boyed on April 16, 2008, 05:37:32 AM
Some tulip pics form my garden
vvedenskyi 'Girlfriend'
greigii 'Grand Gala'
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Post by: Boyed on April 16, 2008, 05:39:39 AM
greigii 'Red Smile'
greigii 'Tschaikovskyi'
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Post by: Boyed on April 16, 2008, 05:41:11 AM
greigii 'United States'
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Post by: ranunculus on April 16, 2008, 07:34:53 AM
Beautiful images....many thanks for posting.
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Post by: Gerdk on April 16, 2008, 10:31:44 AM
Gerd
It looks quite small, could it be Tulipa cretica?  I grow this, quite distinct from all the other tulip species that I grow.  It has flowers not much bigger than a crocus!  I think of T saxatilis as being much bigger and more pink in flower.
I have attached a couple of pictures for comparison with yours.

Tony,
Thank you - it seems there are some different types of Tulipa cretica.
I add a pic of another plant, which is T. cretica for sure. It is distinctly smaller and the leaves are broader. 

Gerd
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Post by: Lvandelft on April 16, 2008, 10:33:29 PM
greigii 'United States'

Very, very beautiful!
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Post by: Boyed on April 17, 2008, 06:20:55 AM
Luit,

Thanks. I very appriciate the magical shape of tulipa greigii, but mostly look for taller cultivars as in my opinion large flowers look nicer on tall stems and there is more harmony. Though I like drarf tulips when they are small-flowered. The originator of most medium and tall growing greigii cultivars is D.W. Lefeber, who, I consider, the most talented tulip breeder in the world, and I try to collect mostly his introductions. I also have a grei respect for breeders Krelage, Grullemans and van Tubergen.

Those two bi-coloured greigii tulips I got from a Dutch comoany as 'Lovely Surprise' and 'United Staes'. But, I think both were mislabeled, though both are tall and very beautiful, corresponding to my taste. The one instead 'Lovely Surprise' seems to be 'Tschaikovsky' though I am not complety sure about that. And I have also doubts about the variety 'United States' (the the colour of the base doesn't correspond to official descriptions). Maybe Mr. C-r can help to clarify this matter?
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Post by: Armin on April 17, 2008, 06:12:22 PM
Super tulip pictures from everbody.
What beautiful bright red shining flower heads from Red Smile and Grand Gala  8) 8)
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Post by: Lvandelft on April 18, 2008, 07:18:49 AM
Luit,
Those two bi-coloured greigii tulips I got from a Dutch comoany as 'Lovely Surprise' and 'United Staes'. But, I think both were mislabeled, though both are tall and very beautiful, corresponding to my taste. The one instead 'Lovely Surprise' seems to be 'Tschaikovsky' though I am not complety sure about that. And I have also doubts about the variety 'United States' (the the colour of the base doesn't correspond to official descriptions). Maybe Mr. C-r can help to clarify this matter?

Zhirair, T. Tschaikovsky has much more yellow than Lovely Surprise and is higher.
I think your Tschaikovsky is the same as the one in C. Coll.
T. United States is just beginning to show colour, so is later.
Here the pics. from here and yours:
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Post by: Boyed on April 19, 2008, 08:00:27 AM
Luit,

Thanks a lot. There is no doubt that "Lovely Surprise" was mislabeled. I grew it during 80s and know well how it looks. Her is a good photo of it ("Lovely Surprise" is the second in first row).

Still I have doubts about the identification of that 2 cultivars as many things doesn't correspond to the official descriptions and there are many red/yellow sorts in greigii division. Anyway I'll be waiting for the variety "United Staes" to bloom in C-r collection and would kindly ask you to also photograph its flowers when they are in open stage. I hope it'll help.
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Post by: Boyed on April 19, 2008, 08:12:10 AM
Those mislabeled tulips become showy and show from day to day and astonish me by their baeuty. This one is terrably beautiful!!!

And "Big One" (syn. "Academician Sakharov") number one in my chart and I can't emagine any tulip more showy and beautiful than that
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Post by: Boyed on April 19, 2008, 08:16:01 AM
Tulipa greigii "Red Smile" is a real show-stopper. It impreeses by it giant sizes of buxom blooms and tall stems up to 65 cm

And there are 2 unknown cultivars which came to my collection quite accidentally
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Post by: Paul T on April 19, 2008, 08:29:44 AM
Beautiful, Zhirair!  8)

That second misnamed (vvedenskyi hybr) is a wonderful combination and nearly glows, as does 'Red Smil'e which has a colour that is almost too intense.  Great pics!!  :)
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Post by: Kenneth K on April 20, 2008, 03:30:02 PM
This dwarf is always the first tulip in our garden, Tulipa dasystemonoides is the name. Not to mix up with T dasystemon. It has a weak but distinct smell of saffron.
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Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2008, 08:41:24 PM
Richard Wilford in his Tulip book says:
"Tulipa dasystemonoideshas a leathery bulb tunic that is densely wooly at the tip, and the plant can occasionally produce two flowers. Otherwise it is virtually the same as T. dasystemon, with two leaves and  yellow flowers held on a short stem. It grows at high altitudes in the Tien Shan and was described by Aleksei Vvedensky in 1935 from material collected in the Talas Ala Tau of norht-western Kyrgystan."
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Post by: Jim McKenney on April 22, 2008, 09:43:34 PM
Here is Tulipa 'Casa Grande' blooming today in my Maryland, USA garden.

I'm very favorably impressed with this one.
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Post by: Boyed on April 23, 2008, 05:53:55 AM
Jim,

Thanks for posting!
'Casa Grande' is, indeed, a real stunner! It developes ubelievably huge blooms. Now it flowers in my garden too. Last year it was 50 cm tall, but this year after adaptation it is already 60 cm.
Here are last year pics, and I hope to post this year's photo soon.
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Post by: Lvandelft on April 23, 2008, 07:31:21 AM
Zhirair, you asked about T. United States, etc.
Here are some collages. I made one of T. United States and one of
T. Cape Cod and T Juri Gagarin.
And to compare also two pics. of T. Tschaikovsky and one of T. Compostella.
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Post by: Lvandelft on April 23, 2008, 07:46:28 AM
And I forgot T. Greigii Group Kiev
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Post by: Viola on April 24, 2008, 06:31:21 PM
Here is a Tulipa from Türkei, Anatolien, Teke Gecidi.
Pleasa help with identifikation.

Karl
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Post by: Armin on April 24, 2008, 06:51:42 PM
Karl,
a very beautiful tulip! But I have no idea fro the moment. :-\
Maybe Ibrahim from Istanbul knows a name.

Luit,
very beautiful collection of T.greigii
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Post by: Viola on April 24, 2008, 07:02:19 PM
Thank you Armin.

Karl
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Post by: mark smyth on April 24, 2008, 07:56:21 PM
Here's a photo showing some of my Tulips. Nothing compares to what has gone before me!

And a word of warning. Looks like T. clusiana does not like bug spray
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Post by: Lvandelft on April 24, 2008, 10:10:59 PM
And a word of warning. Looks like T. clusiana does not like bug spray

Who likes it then??  ??? ::)       ;)
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Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 26, 2008, 05:56:49 PM
Boy are we being shown great tulips here !  What a marvelous thread this has turned out to be (as so many others....  ::))

Here's Tulipa Vvedenskyi x T. mogoltavica 'Girlfriend' - you may wonder why I show it again as I posted it a few weeks ago.  The reason is seen on the second picture taken from the same batch of flowers a week or so later......  What a difference !  :o

The third picture is Tulipa batallinii 'Yellow Jewel'
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Post by: afw on April 26, 2008, 07:55:46 PM
A plea to all the expert tulip growers in the forum.
 Due to my ineptitude  with the watering can, Tulipa, julia, cretica and illiensis have the Botrytis. I have pared down the bulbs to, I hope, a clean surface and they now reside in a sulphur compound.
 How can I keep the bulbs in good condition until the autumn. In dry compost or.....should I give in and scrap them and re-order.

Hoping you have the answers
Alan
 
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Post by: hadacekf on April 26, 2008, 08:22:41 PM
Super pics and tulips Luc!
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Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 26, 2008, 09:12:00 PM
Tulipa ?
These were labelled as double yellow when purchased.
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Post by: Armin on April 27, 2008, 10:03:03 PM
Michael,

your unknown tulip resembles "Mickey Mouse", approx. 35cm height.

Here a few shot taken last week

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Post by: Armin on April 27, 2008, 10:04:22 PM
more...
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Post by: Lvandelft on April 30, 2008, 07:30:05 PM
Tulipa ?
These were labeled as double yellow when purchased.

Michael, I think you've got T. Washington, of which I put a pict. hereby.
There is just flowering a field of it in front of my house.
Or else it could be Prins Carnaval, but this is not cultivated 'en masse'.
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Post by: Michael J Campbell on April 30, 2008, 08:46:20 PM
Luit, I think you are right with Washington, after comparing the pics that is the one that is most like it.
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Post by: Kenneth K on May 04, 2008, 07:02:38 PM
Tulipa orphanidea is one of the tulips I like the best.
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Post by: hadacekf on May 04, 2008, 08:13:06 PM
It is my favorite too.
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Post by: Boyed on May 06, 2008, 06:22:10 AM
Some tulips from my garden

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Post by: Boyed on May 06, 2008, 06:30:16 AM
Luit,

Thanks a lot with helping to identify those greigii tulips. I compared your pics with mine and think that my "United States" is true to name. But I am still in a doubt with another tall yellow tulip with distinct red margins. Oh, everything is so complicated.

Alan,

I didn't clearly caught your statement about the botritis. If the infection is only on the leaves you can just apply fungisides, though bulb harvest will be a bit weaker. In the case of bulb infection, you can save bulbs with applying fungisides if the infection is not so hard. Otherwise the bulbs will die.

More pics
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Post by: Lvandelft on May 06, 2008, 09:10:09 AM
Luit,
Thanks a lot with helping to identify those greigii tulips. I compared your pics with mine and think that my "United States" is true to name. But I am still in a doubt with another tall yellow tulip with distinct red margins. Oh, everything is so complicated.
Zhirair,
it is difficult to go only on the pictures. Depends a lot on making which time of the day and sunshine or not.
I make most of the pict. in Conn. Coll. in the afternoon.
To illustrate 2 pictures:

Tulipa fosteriana Group Albert Heijn v.T. 07  (13.04)   
Tulipa SLG Demeter     ( 16.04)
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Post by: Boyed on May 12, 2008, 06:47:56 AM
I’ve taken lots of tulip pictures. but still have very limited spare time to sort them out. Nevertheless yesterday I resized some photos to post in the forum and many interesting ones will come soon.

Some Darwin Hybrid tulip pictures:

The largest-flowered Darwin Hybrids “Holland’s Glorie” and
“My Lady” (‘HG’ sport) with somewhat tulipa Fosteriana flower shape and delicate rose fragrance
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Post by: Boyed on May 12, 2008, 07:03:27 AM
More DHT tulips
“Eric Hofsjo”
“Maria’s Dream”
“Ljudmila Zagamulova” (V.K. Khondyrev)
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Post by: Boyed on May 12, 2008, 07:12:33 AM
and some photos of my favourite lily-floweredtulip “Ballade” and its sports

“Ballade”
“Ballade Dream” (syn. ‘Sonnet’)
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Post by: Boyed on May 12, 2008, 07:23:59 AM
“Ballade Gold”
“Holland Jewel” (and “Ballade Gold” in the background)
(“HJ” is slightly darker than “BG”)
“Ballade Orange” (syn. ‘Je t’aime’)

And my “Ballade White” and “Ballade Lady”, which I obtained last year first were mislabeled and the second didn’t grow.
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Post by: Susan Band on May 12, 2008, 07:27:37 AM
Zhirair, I think between you and Liut, you will be starting another Tulip craze ;D There are certainly some lovely, rarely seen Tulips out there. I am trying my best not to get too taken by them, I can't grow everything.
Susan
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Post by: Boyed on May 12, 2008, 07:39:00 AM
Susan,

pleased to hear that. Yes, I understand what you mean. I have the same problem with other bulbs, which I like, but becuase of land and time shortage don't risk to go deep. At least you can try very few rare and catchy cultivars to enjoy in your garden.

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Post by: Lvandelft on May 12, 2008, 09:58:34 AM
Zhirair, this T. Ljudmila Zagamulova is a very nice one.
What type is it?
And this Lily flowered Ballade seems to give a lot of good sports.
I like the Ballade Dream and Je t'aime will be a good garden tulip too.
Of the last one is this year appr. 400 m² in culture, going back from 2000 m²
in 2004, thus not a good seller.
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Post by: Boyed on May 12, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
Luit,

"Ljudmila Zagamulova" is Darwin Hybrid type, raised by V.K. Khondyrev from Moscow with the participation of tulip "Tender Beauty" in its parantage. As far as I know it is registered in Holland by VERTUCO BV. It has extremely large flowers. But it is a bad increaser as "Tender Beauty' and the breeder doen't sell very much of it. Last year he shared a few bulbs with me as an exception to big tulip lover.

And one more pic - my Darwin hybrid tulipa beds
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Post by: Boyed on May 12, 2008, 10:24:39 AM
Relating “Ballade”

This tulip is my favourite among lily-flowered ones and grow it over 20 years. Its perfect wide-petalled flower shape just adores me and I am trying to obtain all its sports. Very pity that my “Ballade White’ turned out to be mislabeled. I will order it again this year and hope that this time everything will be O.K.
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Post by: Armin on May 12, 2008, 10:39:23 PM
Zhirair,
I got impressed as Luit by "Ljudmila Zagamulova".
Very extraordinary.  :o 8) 8) 8)
Your lily tulips of course shall not be underrated. Very beautiful too. ;)
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Post by: Boyed on May 13, 2008, 05:21:45 AM
It is very rainy here in Vandzor for over 10days and I am not able to make a good tulip photos. Anyway, I will share some other pics, I made earlier.

Let’s start from Triumph tulips

“Cairo”
“Dreaming maid”
“First Lady”
“Imelda Marcos”

Jim, as you already you know I grow “Cairo”. In my garden it is pale brown with orange overlay. But I know much more brown tulips, which are not grown commercially.
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Post by: Boyed on May 13, 2008, 05:27:39 AM
Darwin Hybrid tulips

“America” –another giant Lefeber-bred tulip. It is so huge, and can beet any red tulip from any group by its sizes. Grows up to 90 cm high, but sold only by some collectors in Russia. In Holland it is non-commercial tulip.

“Gnome’s Cup” – an oddball sport of “Apeldoorn” with unusual flower shape, bred in Latvia. In my garden it blooms from small bulbs and I hope that next year it’ll be more attractive.
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Post by: Boyed on May 13, 2008, 05:31:16 AM
Continuation of Darwin Hybrids

“Krasnoselets” – sport from famous DHT “Eric Hofsjo”, very vigorous and big, much more better than any pink tulip from this group. Raised in Russia.

“Olliouless”
“Fringed Elegance” – an elegant fringed from from DHT “Jewel of Spring”
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Post by: Boyed on May 13, 2008, 05:37:20 AM
Single Late Tulips

“Belaya Vezha”/ “White Vezha” (V.M. Kudryavtseva), SLT, sg Darwin. Vezha –is a famous place in Belorus

“Gander” – SLT, sg. Darwin,
“Lunny Svet”/ “Moonlight” (Z.M. Silina) – SLT, sg. Cottage, has a tendency to produce semidouble flowers

“Pesniary”/ “Singers” (V.M. Kudryavtseva) – SLT, sg. Cot
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Post by: Boyed on May 13, 2008, 05:41:36 AM
Lily-flowered tulips

“Jaquline” – vigorous tulips growing up to 100 cm high
“Lebedushka”/ “Swanie” (Z.M. Silina) (“Yellow Marwel*tulipa Greigii)
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Post by: Boyed on May 13, 2008, 05:46:02 AM
“Lilia” (A. Abiks), bred in Latvia during 80s
“Mona Lisa” – spor from famous “Mariette”
“Severianochka”/”Northern Girl” (Z.M. Silina), Russia
“Yuri Dogorukiy” – new introduction with huge up to 15 cm long flowers and a bit unusual shape for this group
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Post by: Boyed on May 13, 2008, 05:51:14 AM
And few Fringed Tulips

“Cabbage” – show-stopper exotic cultivar from V.Skuja (LATVIA), the only shortcoming is slow increasing
“Strafighter”
“Ventspils” – large and vigorous tulips bred by J. Egle (LATVIA)
tulip assorty (“Cabbage”, “Jaquline”, “Flashback (lil) and “Johann Gutenberg” (fr))
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Post by: Boyed on May 13, 2008, 06:49:13 AM
And I forgot to post a photo of Fosteriana "Albert Heign". It is so impressie that I wished to post more pic of it
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Joakim B on May 13, 2008, 08:53:13 PM
Zhair thanks for the lovely tulip photos it is so nice to see them :) 8) :o
Kind regards
Joakim
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Post by: Anthony Darby on May 13, 2008, 10:55:23 PM
Tulipa linifolia 'Red Gem' and...........oooops!
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Post by: Lvandelft on May 13, 2008, 11:01:23 PM
Anthony, if the striped one  in the second picture belongs to the T. linifolia
I would not want to keep it.
Seems you had a sunny day. For this red one needs sunglasses.

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Post by: Diane Whitehead on May 14, 2008, 01:56:06 AM
Zhirair,

I noticed the high fences you have around your garden.

I also must grow tulips (and lilies) behind a 2.4 metre fence
or deer will eat them.
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Post by: Boyed on May 14, 2008, 07:21:37 AM
Diane,

growing bulbs, especially tall ones around the fence is, indeed, very protective. They are more safe from mice damage as well as from strong winds.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Anthony Darby on May 14, 2008, 09:07:13 AM
Anthony, if the striped one  in the second picture belongs to the T. linifolia
I would not want to keep it.
Seems you had a sunny day. For this red one needs sunglasses.


Yes, it was lovely and sunny, and thanks for the advice Luit. I will carefully remove the virused plant.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on May 15, 2008, 05:30:37 AM
I made a comparison picture for giant DHT tulip "America", so you can see how large it is
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Post by: Maggi Young on May 15, 2008, 10:04:05 AM
Oh my word! That is one HUGE tulip :o  Extraordinary size to that bloom. 8)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on May 16, 2008, 05:33:26 AM
We discussed much about Breeder tulips, which are very beautiful in my opinion. Some breeder tulips were bred in Russia as well during 70s. I just would like to show one, which is called “Dymka”/ “Smokey”, raised by famous Russian botanist Zinaida Silina. It has very unusual colour, it is something mixture of dark brown with purple with a metallic overlay.
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Post by: Susan Band on May 18, 2008, 09:54:28 AM
Here is the last Tulip to flower and the best :) Tulipa sprengeri
Susan
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Post by: olegKon on May 18, 2008, 09:37:30 PM
Fantastic colour, Susan.
Can anyone help identify these 2 tulips?
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Post by: Boyed on May 19, 2008, 12:20:03 PM
Oleg,

The dark red variety might be Triumph tulip "Jan Reus", but about the orange one, I don't have any idea as there are many such-colored varieties.

Few pics from me too.
Tulip "Belaya Vezha" (gr.5) with very nice shape of flower, resembling a rose, when it is close. Tulip "Lunny Svet" ("Moonlight"), attracting attention by its large ball-shaped flower center. Tulip "Yuri Dolgorukiy' (gr. 6) with rare shape for the group and tall up 15 cm blooms.

Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: David Nicholson on May 19, 2008, 08:45:45 PM
Anyone else not seeing Zhirair's pics on his last post. All are replaced by little red crosses, normally when this happens I click the cross, choose 'Show Picture', and all is well-not this time though??
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Lvandelft on May 19, 2008, 09:54:08 PM
Zhirair (or Fred) makes us very curious I think.  ;D
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: olegKon on May 19, 2008, 11:16:32 PM
Zhirair, thank you for help
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: illingworth on May 19, 2008, 11:28:59 PM
In April I visited the Chanticleer Garden in Pennsylvania. No tags on the flowers shown below. The 'rock garden' was a series of steps down a slope. Tulips were used to liven it up. 
-Rob
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on May 20, 2008, 01:37:37 PM
Rob,

the fist red/yellow tulip somewhat look as variety "Flair" from I division. But I can certainly identify the second one, which is "Princess Irene" from vivision III (former Mendel Tulip)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Lvandelft on May 23, 2008, 05:54:42 AM
Tulip "Belaya Vezha" (gr.5) with very nice shape of flower, resembling a rose, when it is close. Tulip "Lunny Svet" ("Moonlight"), attracting attention by its large ball-shaped flower center. Tulip "Yuri Dolgorukiy' (gr. 6) with rare shape for the group and tall up 15 cm blooms.

Zhirair, for me it was until now impossible to open these pictures.
Is it possible to edit these again?
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Maggi Young on May 23, 2008, 10:40:49 AM
Yes, Zhirair, it seems none of us can see the pictures
Quote
Tulip "Belaya Vezha" (gr.5) with very nice shape of flower, resembling a rose, when it is close. Tulip "Lunny Svet" ("Moonlight"), attracting attention by its large ball-shaped flower center. Tulip "Yuri Dolgorukiy' (gr. 6) with rare shape for the group and tall up 15 cm blooms.
.... we would be very pleased if you could  post them again , please!
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on June 02, 2008, 06:04:11 AM
Maggi,

Sorry for late reply. I was ina week-trip to the south of the country.
So am am reposting the tulip photos:
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Maggi Young on June 02, 2008, 11:54:56 AM
Hello, Zhirair, Hope you had a good trip!
 These are very good tulips, great to get the pictures.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Boyed on June 02, 2008, 12:17:08 PM
Maggi,

The trip was wonderful! We were right near the border of Armenia and Iran. I was in the far south of the country for the first time and came back with great impressions about the nature, which was seriously different than those in our region. Besides, I found many interesting and rare bulbs.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 24, 2008, 07:43:39 AM
I've posted these pics to the Southern Hemisphere thread but thought they should go here too.
This is a tulip raised from Seed from the SRGC Seedex 2004 as Tulipa tetraphylla,
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cheers
fermi
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Post by: Boyed on December 01, 2008, 05:38:47 AM
I was very lazy with moving the photos from the camera to the computer and resizing them. But I think this tulip is worth posting.

Another odd-ball totally green tulip 'Meza Skaistule' ('Forest Beauty'), bred in Latvia by J. Egle. I good companion and competitor to the Dutch variety 'Evergreen'. In garden is can look not bright, so a good background should be choosed. But it is perfect for flower arrangements. One of its serious advantages is extremely long flowering qualities - more than a month.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Paul T on December 01, 2008, 09:04:31 AM
Zhirair,

Different!!  Something I'd grow just for the unusual qualities, but I rather like the form as well.  I think that would be quite interesting as a cut flower, and I can definitely see it being used in unusual flower arrangements.  Excellent!!  8)
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: Armin on December 01, 2008, 04:14:09 PM
Zhirair,
the green tulip 'Meza Skaistule' is extraordinary. :o 8)
Thanks for showing us.
Title: Re: tulipa
Post by: olegKon on December 02, 2008, 08:29:49 AM
Zhirair,
no words, fantastic!
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