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Title: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: jshields on June 06, 2013, 08:55:37 PM
This is Hymenocallis liriosme, bulbs received from Thad Howard.  He collected them somewhere in Texas.  Out of at least a half-dozen accessions of liriosme, this is the only one hardy outdoors here in Indiana.  And that is only close to the south end of the greenhouse.   Even in Indiana, this species does much better in the ground (if it survives) than in large pots.

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There are at least 2 clones of this accession, so I can usually get seeds by hand-pollinating.

Jim
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: pontus on June 06, 2013, 09:44:37 PM
Hello Jim,

Do you think hymenocallis littoralis might be hardy if planted deep aghainst a south facing wall? or is it completely tender?

Pontus
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: jshields on June 06, 2013, 10:35:48 PM
Hi Pontus,
I have never tried littoralis outdoors in the ground.  I could send you a few seeds of this clone of liriosme if you wanted to try it -- but start the seeds inside or in a frost-free greenhouse for the first couple years.
Jim
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: jshields on June 06, 2013, 10:51:58 PM
This is Hymenocallis guerreroensis from the province of that name in Mexico.  It was given to me by Thad Howard in 2004.  This is a member of the Mexican Group of dwarf, deciduous species in Mexico.

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Jim
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: johnw on June 07, 2013, 01:21:12 AM
Spectacular Jim!

johnw
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: jshields on June 08, 2013, 05:46:06 PM
Hymenocallis imperialis, a.k.a. "Big Fatty" by the Texas gang of bulb people 30-40-50 years ago.  It has broad leaves but with no pseudopetiole.

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I'm not sure where this one came from.  My first bulb of this species probably came from Thad Howard or Marcia Wilson.  I got some from Louisiana later, but those were all virused (one only very rarely sees viruses in Hymenocallis!) and this one is the most recent acquisition but has lost its tag.

Jim
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: jshields on June 10, 2013, 12:27:20 AM
Hymenocallis franklinensis is a narrowly endemic species found only in one river system in the Panhandle region of Florida.  It is similar to Hymenocallis crassifolia, but the flowers are said to be larger.  I got these from Vic Lambou in 2004, and this is the first time they have bloomed for me; I suspect I have not been growing them quite right.

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I don't know if these will set seeds; the first plant finished flowering before the last one start to bloom.  Not common in collections,so far as I know.

Jim
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: wooden shoe on June 13, 2013, 09:41:18 PM
You have a wonderful collection Jim.
Thank you for showing us.
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: jshields on June 20, 2013, 06:51:06 PM
Hymenocallis durangoensis is now blooming.

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This is another dwarf Mexican species, superficially similar to H. guerreroensis.  The guerreroensis has dull blue-green leave (glaucous) and blooms a couple weeks earlier than durangoensis which has wider light green leaves.  H. durangoensis is self-fertile.

Jim
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: François Lambert on July 10, 2013, 12:28:56 PM
Not a species, but very nice hybrid, Hymenocallis festalis 'Zwanenburg' flowering for the first time for me.

on the last picture in the back ground Hippeastrum Apple Blossom in full bloom
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: ThomasB on July 14, 2013, 09:17:59 PM
Hymenocallis 'Sulphur Queen' was some days earlier than H. x festalis here.  :D
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: François Lambert on August 21, 2013, 10:29:48 AM
This morning I found out that some of the seeds of my Hymenocallis Harrissiana fell to the ground.  They are about 1 cm long.  Should I sow these right now as I do for crinum seeds ?  And if so, how should I take care of them over the winter ?
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: jshields on August 21, 2013, 01:52:22 PM
Francosi,
You are right, you should treat the Hymenocallis seeds just as you would Crinum seeds.  Water well for now.  Later, let them go dry during the coldest months of the winter and water again in spring.
Jim
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: François Lambert on August 21, 2013, 03:28:04 PM
Thank you Jim !
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 27, 2013, 05:30:22 AM
Hymenocallis 'Sulphur Queen' was some days earlier than H. x festalis here.  :D
Last week at a "Plant Lovers' Market" I bought a bulb of this Hymenocallis! I'm hoping it flowers as nicely as yours, Thomas.
The bulb was about the size of a goose egg and I was told it should flower this season but it wasn't in growth yet; H. festalis is already in leaf here,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: ThomasB on September 29, 2013, 10:56:26 PM
Hope this Beauty will flower for you, Fermi!  :D

H. 'Sulphur Queen' is not a difficult bulb here. Actually it's growing together with several bulbs of H. x festalis in a large pot on my balcony during summer. I'm cutting the leaves once frost is predicted, place the whole pot in a cool cellar and keep it dry till next spring. The plants are heavy feeders and drinkers.  ;)

Regards
Thomas
Title: Re: Hymenocallis 2013
Post by: Ezeiza on September 29, 2013, 11:44:49 PM
Thomas, leaves must not be cut if still green. If need be, the plants must be taken indoors to let nutrients in the foliage to migrate and fatten the bulb.

All said, Jim's comments and images refer to proper Hymenocallis. 'Festalis', 'Zwanenburg', 'Festalis', are all Ismenes. Two different genera for two groups of different looking plants. This said to avoid the confusion concerning these plants.
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