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Title: Hyacinthus
Post by: Lvandelft on December 03, 2007, 06:57:49 PM
From the start of December we will se more forced
bulbous plant at shows here.
Today I saw at the weekly flowershow in Lisse some
nice colors in Hyacinths.
I hope you like them too?
Luit van Delft
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Lesley Cox on December 03, 2007, 07:19:59 PM
Lovely colours Luit, but where's the SCENT? :)
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 03, 2007, 07:37:49 PM
Lesley,

Put your nose closer to the screen. Great scent!

Luit, great colours indeed. I succumb each year and buy a pot or two as well as some bulbs to bring along myself. They are then planted in the garden under deciduous shrubs  where they continue to flower for many years afterwards.

Paddy
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Lvandelft on December 03, 2007, 09:01:24 PM
Lesley
next time I will try to make a picture with a Fuji-odora.
You never know what happens then??
We will have to ask the B.D. if there exists such a camera.

Paddy, it will take some time before you can buy such bulbs,
they seem to be rather new varieties.

Luit
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Anthony Darby on December 03, 2007, 11:15:16 PM
Wouldn't make any scents me sniffing the screen as I can't smell anything because I have a cold. ::)
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Lesley Cox on December 03, 2007, 11:58:46 PM
And my own screen seems to be quite senseless :)
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Anthony Darby on December 04, 2007, 03:15:49 PM
Getting a new one wouldn't make scents Lesley. :D
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Lesley Cox on December 04, 2007, 07:47:35 PM
Can't afford the sense let alone the dollars. But if someone with a bit more cents those those currently contributing to this topic has a spare one on offer, it would be scentsible for me to accept. And that's enough nonscents from me.
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Paul T on December 05, 2007, 05:22:30 AM
This topic is just scentsational!!  :P

That strong yellow is rather impressive.  Have seen creamy yellows, but nothing anywhere near that strong a yellow before.  Favourite Hyacinth of mine is 'Woodstock' with it's rich red-purple colouration.
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Anthony Darby on December 05, 2007, 10:57:00 PM
I thought Woodstock was yellow? Mind you, my memory isn't worth a bag of peanuts thesedays! ::)
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Joakim B on December 10, 2007, 11:50:53 AM
Luit
Nice hyacinthus
We use them for Christmas decoration in Sweden and then plant them in the garden. They never get as good as the first year but are nice anyway. I have not seen the ones for Christmas here in Portugal ready with flower but there might be bulbs. I will try since they have such a lovely scent and colour.

Is there not a hyacinth that is called "delft"? and is blue? Is it by "chance" the one You showed Luit? And if so is that Delft any relation of Yours?

Kind regards from sunny Portugal
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Lvandelft on December 10, 2007, 05:41:27 PM
Joaqim, that is too much honour for me.
The one I showed is a very new cultivar,
called Aqua. (The blue one on the 2nd. pict!)
Delft Blue is a famous Dutch Porcelain.
Hyac. Delft Blue was already won in 1944,
and the name given, because of the nice
porcelain blue colour.
On the 1st pict. is Koh-i-Noor, relatively new and
is one of the earliest cultivars for cutting!

Luit
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Joakim B on December 10, 2007, 08:09:59 PM
Luit I had the feeling that the delft was a bit darker but I was not sure now I am. Thanks for the information.
I did not think it came from You but from an older relative since I knew it was old. I actually thought it was older than 1944 but now I know the age.
To everyone:
It would be very nice to see some hyacinths here even if they were part of Christmas decoration if that is within what the forum permits. It is nice to see the hyacinths and also the decoration.

Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Lvandelft on December 18, 2007, 06:51:40 PM
Here are some more Hyacinths, which I saw yesterday amongst some others
on the weekly flowershowin Lisse.
Hyac. Johanna we saw some years ago for the first time. It seems very good for
early forcing and very useful as cutflower.
The other one is new, without a name.
Hope you like it.
Luit van Delft
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Katherine J on December 19, 2007, 08:21:20 AM
Johanna is very nice. I like deeper colors more.

By the way, tell me please, what should I do with them when they wither? Now is frost in here, I can't plant them in the garden. What if I put it in a big pot, and place in a cool place (about 10°C) with much light?
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 19, 2007, 02:17:11 PM
Katherine,

I try to keep the foliage growing as long as possible, keep the bulbs in a cold greenhouse and feed regularly and then plant them out in the garden under shrubs in spring. They do well in the open garden; the overhanging shrubs give a certain amount of protection from frost and I have bulbs flowering every year which I planted in the garden 20 years ago. The scent is wonderful.

Paddy
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Katherine J on December 19, 2007, 07:27:46 PM
Thanks, Paddy.
My greenhouse is the staircase, but it works well. I will do that.
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Lvandelft on January 28, 2008, 07:59:51 PM
Who wouldn't like such a bunch of SPRING on the table?
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: tonyg on January 28, 2008, 10:35:58 PM
I thought Woodstock was yellow? Mind you, my memory isn't worth a bag of peanuts thesedays! ::)
My eldest has just begun to Snoop around my books - She's a Schultz fan too now.   
When I grew up I found Calvin & Hobbes which fits my parenting years well ;)
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 28, 2008, 11:27:18 PM
I liked the ones in the classroom: Charlie Brown to Lucy: "what did you answer for question 3?" "38! What did you get?" "Red!!!". She never did let him kick that ball! :(
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Maggi Young on January 28, 2008, 11:32:39 PM
My favs scenes are with : Snoopy and Woodstock and the Scout Troop / Snoopy's brother Spike / the delicate relationship between Peppermint Patty and Snoopy. Delicious, every one.
I have seen Calvin and Hobbes but never really got hooked.... oh! you were asking about your CHILDREN's
reading habits, not the (supposed)grown-ups? :-[ ??? ::)
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Paul T on January 29, 2008, 04:42:35 AM
I just LOVE Calvin and Hobbes.  Has some really interesting things to say about society.... and it is a lot of fun too!!  ;D
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Tony Willis on January 30, 2008, 04:03:55 PM
Not quite as showy as the garden varieties,small and refined with a fantastic scent.

Hyacinthus orientalis turkey pinabasi
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Lvandelft on January 30, 2008, 09:19:48 PM
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Hyacinthus orientalis turkey pinabasi

Seems not having much changed since good old Carolus Clusius produced a picture
in his famous work in 1601.
Nevertheless a very interesting plant you showed us here, Tony!
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: dominique on February 03, 2008, 09:35:23 AM
Fantastic Tony. Thanks
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Tony Willis on February 17, 2008, 08:51:39 PM
a couple more pictures of hyacinthus orientalis.

The first is from nehmrut dag  and the second is one from pinabasi both in eastern turkey
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: SueG on February 18, 2008, 12:36:46 PM
I usually have a few in the house which then make it to the garden for future years and I rather like the way the flower spikes become much looser and sparser - more like the species they've been bred from I guess - it also means they don't fall over quite so much. Mine are just now coming through outside so something to look forward to.
Sue
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Tony Willis on February 27, 2009, 04:28:13 PM
this years pictures of Hyacinthus orientalis.

I know they have been sub divided into two sub species  and these represent one from each

the first is ssp orientalis  and the second ssp chionophyllus
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: ashley on February 27, 2009, 04:33:44 PM
Both really beautiful Tony.  How long from seed to flowering?
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Tony Willis on February 27, 2009, 05:22:21 PM
Ashley,five years. I have never had seed set and not managed an off set yet.

I have another three in the pot of ssp chinophyllus which are in early bud.
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Oron Peri on February 27, 2009, 08:02:55 PM
Tony, great plants as always,
ssp chionophilus is a stunner with its turquoise color,
I tried to grow it few times, but it seems to prefer a colder place.... :-\
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Yuri Pirogov on March 01, 2009, 08:06:34 PM
Tony,
how broad are the leaves of ssp orientalis? P. Wendelbo states they should be 4-5(-11) mm broad.
Title: Re: Hyacinthus
Post by: Tony Willis on March 01, 2009, 08:28:54 PM
Tony,
how broad are the leaves of ssp orientalis? P. Wendelbo states they should be 4-5(-11) mm broad.

Yuri

I have just measured them and both ssp are the same at 22mm.I would say that both ssp species are from the type locations in the Flora of Turkey and that gives leaf width as 4-5(-11mm) for ssp orientalis and 12-15mm for chionophilus.

Maybe they have grown fat in my conditions !
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