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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Hagen Engelmann on April 01, 2013, 07:53:55 AM
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Our season will start finally this month, so I have the hope to open an april topic.
The start pic shows a brand new gracilis seedling.
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Oooo. Maggi will like the chunkiness of that one. :)
Hagen - you have spoilt us with so many nice photographs already - and you say your season has not yet started properly? I look forward to seeing your main season pictures. ;D
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John, here is a pic of our garden in march:
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But after the snow, John I go to count the snowdrop flowers ;)!
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Because of the cold weather we have no longer storks. Now we have gooses on the church roof.
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Quite late Hagen, almost all Storks arrived here 3 to 4 weeks ago!
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Because of the cold weather we have no longer storks. Now we have gooses on the church roof.
Well at least they are not Canadian.
johnw
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Hagen,Hope snow clears soon.Heres a couple from today.
1. Virescens
2. Devon marble
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Hagen,Hope snow clears soon.Heres a couple from today.
1. Virescens
2. Devon marble
Steeeeeve, now in my turn I cry WOW WOW WOW for your Virescens!!!! :o :o :o :o :o
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Steve, I like to see the green worlds of other galanthophiles.
I total agree with Dima!!!
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Steve, I like to see the green worlds of other galanthophiles.
I total agree with Dima!!!
Hagen, your gracilis seedling is also very WOW ;D such unusual shape, especially for elwesii group galanthuses... love it!
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fine green clones here 8)
It was to late for Cr. biflorus ssp. biflorus in Slowenia, but I have had 1 hour to look for Galanthus, near the boder to Italy. Here are the results
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and a few more
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Some impressive nivalis finds there Gerhard.
johnw
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A lot of fine latecomers, Gerhard. Our season grows longer and longer.
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Hagen, magnificent form of a snowdrop - it grown up from seeds or selection?
Gerhard, I congratulate on finds!
Remarkable forms of snowdrops!
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Hopefully I `ll get more time, snowdrops are easier to find 8)
For sure, more finds from Slovenia will follow......
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Wonderful photos from everyone, thank you so much, those greens, sigh.
have had 1 hour to look for Galanthus, near the border to Italy.
Wow, Gerhard, what wonderful finds after only an hours searching. What a treat!
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In Finland we have still a lot of snow (too much :(), and only the first warm places are without it now.
The problem with snowdrops in a year like this is that they start to flower too early and are in bloom inside the snow. My common G.nivalis and G.woronowii wait mostly for the snow to melt before they come up, but S.Arnott flowers a bit too early.
Which good late flowering snowdrops would you recommend?
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Here the same as in Finland. This Sunday temperature could drop down to minus 18 C and all my fields are covered with 30-40 cm of snow. Fortunately the first good weather forecast I just hear on radio - for next weekend even + 15 proposed :D + great floods :'(
But in greenhouse blooms Galanthus krasnowii.
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so pretty G. krasnovii, Janis! :o Is it Turkish or Abkhazian collection material?? :-\
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so pretty G. krasnovii, Janis! :o Is it Turkish or Abkhazian collection material?? :-\
This one is from Abchasia - old soviet time gathering.
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Which good late flowering snowdrops would you recommend?
Leena - Image is one of my latest - unfortunately I'm not sure if this is a 'lost label' or a plicatus seedling here but if you don't mind the lack of a name, PM me your address and I'll send you a bulb as I'm about to split and spread it.
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Gail, your plicatus is in good optical conditions. Very late flower - for UKonly ;).
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Snow finds his own end here, finite.
On his melting way he has destroyed the most part of the flowers.
It is a pity.
The flowers had to wait to long in wet conditions and without light under the snow carpet.
Normally this is one of my best greens, the plant was to early in flower.
It was the opener of the march topic. But four weeks under snow...... :(
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Another destroyed tuff/clump.
But the color is the thing of interest.
The cream don`t fade away under the snow, so the flowers look very creamy.
I call it WARMES LICHT - "warm light".
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WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE WEATHER????? >:( >:( >:(
Hagen,Such a shame that the snow has ruined your green world :'( :'( :'(
The cream world,will have to do. :) :) :)
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Thank you Gail :)
Your plicatus looks really lovely, and the names are not so important (other than to tell plants apart from each other, and so that you know what you want if you order something), only that the plant grows well.
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Hello Hagen yes all our snowdrops were under snow for so long as well some have rotted but it is amazing to see quite a few holding their heads up with the little sunshine we have, a flutter of snow falling most of the day, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Very near the end of the season here with the last half a dozen in flower.
A couple of pics from the weekend.
1 - 'Green Ibis'
2 - My birthday present from Jennie. Anemone blanda 'Charmer'
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I adore you a bit.
Armin - I feel a tad dashed...... :'(
Snooping in frame #3 yesterday. You can see Tramp (my trym impostor) against the back wall in photos 1 & 2 which has finally opened properly and with stable marking this year. For the hawkeyes there is a Poseidon with 2 flowers in the mix there. Despite the long moderately cold winter there's not a miss in the frames, even woronowii has survived.
johnw
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I think my eyesight is not up to it John!
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I think my eyesight is not up to it John!
Couldn't resist exposing John's Tramp...... Tramplet
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Brian - You might want to have a gander at pic 3 and compare Cicely Hall in the upper right corner - the big one - with the 2 Foxgrove Whittalliis along the back wall.
Sorry Maggi, my memory..... it's not Tramp it's Tramplet.
johnw
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Sorry Maggi, my memory..... it's not Tramp it's Tramplet.
johnw
I read that as trampette.......
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In Finland most of the snowdrops are still !! under snow, but the first are coming up. :)
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To see the first tips of the galanthus is a god feeling, isn`t it Leena ;)?
Our snow is over. x x x
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I think Maggi must have satellite vision! Exciting frames full John. This is G. 'Cicely Hall' in our garden, one of the latest varieties we grow and a superb garden plant (ex. Graham Gough and Washfield nursery).
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Couldn't resist exposing John's Tramp...... Tramplet
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You are too kind Maggi, but my hawkeyes were needed for Poseidon!
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Brian - You might want to have a gander at pic 3 and compare Cicely Hall in the upper right corner - the big one - with the 2 Foxgrove Whittalliis along the back wall.
Duly gandered and suitably impressed with those Whittallii :D
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To see the first tips of the galanthus is a god feeling, isn`t it Leena ;)?
Our snow is over. x x x
Yes :)
This winter has been very frustrating and seems never to end, but the snowdrops peaking from the ground give hope, the spring will come. :) And the first flowers are always the most precious.
I have add how much I have enjoyed spring pictures from countries with milder climate, thank you.
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Tim - How odd Cicely should be so late with you. It was the very first one up here this year, up in fact when it was too cold for anything to be up. It was one of the last up in the greenhouse this year but mid-season as a rule.
Rosemary Burnham in the ground flowered completely yellow this year yet in the frames which were lidded so no light could get in they are green.
Lord Lieutenant is just showing......it was early this year in the greenhouse................... ???
johnw
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The very last ones of this season i think ;D
The first one is not with a chevron but with a W or M. And the sinus is double split with a extra not.So far as i can remember, have i never seen this before
The others are just selections even a yellow/green form
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Quite extraordinary Gerard, I've never seen double sinuses (or is it sini?) either.
Here a terrible shot of Poseidon. It's beastly damp and chilly and I'm not venturing out to photograph. I will try to get better shots tomorrow.
johnw
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Cheers John, yes those double sinuses are different aren't they!
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...And the sinus is double split with a extra notch. So far as i can remember, have i never seen this before
Is this the first year you have observed this, Gerard, or do you mean that this snowdrop does this every year but you have never observed the same phenomenon elsewhere. I have certainly never seen a snowdrop do this.
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I found this one in 2011 and it got my eye because it gives 2 scapes per plant and its a elwesii!!! I did make a photo of the most promising ones last monday and when i had a good look at the photo i saw it more clearly. The plant gives 2 scapes now and on the other scape there are 2 flowers together on each other.
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Hello Gerard, now that is very different quite exciting, I am sure we will have snowdrops in May this year a little more snow today with bitter winds, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Hello,
i'm new here and i'm from germany ( east ).
Finally the snow is gone and the snowdrops look good. They were many weeks under snow.
Best wishes
Uwe
( sorry please ,but my english is not good)
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Welcome Uwe! Your galanthus look pleased to be out from the snow -
here in north east Scotland we are still enjoying our snowdrops too.
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Willkommen Uwe!
Nice planting of snowdrops. Don't worry about your English; it is much better than my German and here we are all far more interested in plants than correct English...
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Some happy looking snowdrops there Uwe, nice planting, good to have you with us on the forum.
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Welcome Uwe!
You have a beautiful snowdrops! :)
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Hi!
Hello Uwe!
Are we neightbours?
Here "only" a "normal" G.nivalis.
But a crazy photo (of yesterday!!!)...
(http://666kb.com/i/cd4okzpps6zwgti4h.jpg)
Dani
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Hello,
many thanks for the friendly welcome.
Here now a picture from a very late G. elwesii with big flowers and compact growth.
Best wishes
Uwe
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... and a nice funny face.
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Here are the last pics of this season ;D
These are found in France by a dutch women who kindly gave 2 of them to observe them the next years :o
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A long season here too. This one is usually at its best at the end of March - Fieldgate Superb - one of my favourites. The flowers have outers over 4cm long
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Fieldgate Superb - one of my favourites.
Absolutely, I think this is the best of Colin's selections...so far!
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Absolutely, I think this is the best of Colin's selections...so far!
I think he thinks so too ;)
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At last the spring came and to us ...
Galanthus nivalis justifies its name.
Galanthus Worinowii - tiny plants.
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Natalia - Is woronowii winter hardy with you?
johnw
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John, Galanthus worinowii, Galanthus krasnovii and Galanthus panjutinii very hardy - they well winter under our snow.
I already showed photos of plants of these species which grow in my garden.
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I watch chimeras found in this year. More than 10 different copies.
Certainly, in this look they non are stable. But...
From those chimeras which partially turn green eventually it is possible to receive the viable aurata forms.
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From these plants it is possible to receive light-green forms
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Aurata form. But it not rather green, over time. I don't think that we will see its flowers soon :)
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Snow has started to melt in Finland.
My oldest snowdrops are G.nivalis and G.nivalis 'Flore Pleno', and they do well here, G.nivalis has increased well and I have several clumps of it, and it also seeds around.
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'Dionysus' is flowering for the first time for me now. It is quite short, about the height of 'Flore Pleno'. Is this the right height for it, or is this only because it is young? or do I have the right plant?
'Dionysus'
'Merlin'
'Viridapice'
Galanthus lagodechianus
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Here's a picture of Dionysius http://www.dryad-home.co.uk/pages/gallery/Galanthus/index.html#Galanthus%20Dionysus.jpg (http://www.dryad-home.co.uk/pages/gallery/Galanthus/index.html#Galanthus%20Dionysus.jpg)
Here's one of Lady Beatrix Stanley http://www.dryad-home.co.uk/pages/gallery/Galanthus/index.html#Galanthus%20Lady%20Beatrix%20Stanley.jpg (http://www.dryad-home.co.uk/pages/gallery/Galanthus/index.html#Galanthus%20Lady%20Beatrix%20Stanley.jpg)
The flower looks more like the latter than the former to me. Lady Beatrix Stanley is part elwesii so the leaves are somewhat supervolute although much narrower than a typical elwesii. Your plant looks to have supervolute leaves although less glaucous than I would expect.
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Thank you Alan, it really doesn't look like 'Dionysus', but more like 'Lady Beatrix Stanley'. :)
The light might change the color of the leaves.
I had bought it from Potterton's in spring 2011 and this is the first time it flowers, and it seems to have increased from one bulb. The same time I bought also 'Hippolyta' and 'Desdemona', and the latter didn't come up the next spring and 'Hippolyta' is now a really small leaf. I planted them all in the same place, and at least G.plicatus seems to like it there.
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And a few snowdrops in my garden.
Galanthus plicatus_6681
Galanthus plicatus_6683
Galanthus plicatus_7040
Galanthus plicatus_7042
Galanthus woronowii_7199
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My, they're all very nice, Natalia.
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And a few snowdrops in my garden.
Galanthus plicatus_6681
Galanthus plicatus_6683
Galanthus plicatus_7040
Galanthus plicatus_7042
Galanthus woronowii_7199
Galanthus plicatus_6683
Galanthus plicatus_7040
These forms are found by me? Or it is your finds?
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Ru, these are my selections from the 2011 trip.
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Ru, these are my selections from the 2011 trip.
Yes, excellent there was a trip! ;D
http://cs901.vk.me/u9153301/130580788/z_055a3937.jpg (http://cs901.vk.me/u9153301/130580788/z_055a3937.jpg)
http://cs10652.vk.me/u9153301/130580788/z_454b6e9d.jpg (http://cs10652.vk.me/u9153301/130580788/z_454b6e9d.jpg)
http://cs901.vk.me/u9153301/130580788/z_524a04a4.jpg (http://cs901.vk.me/u9153301/130580788/z_524a04a4.jpg)
http://cs901.vk.me/u9153301/130580788/z_d408573a.jpg (http://cs901.vk.me/u9153301/130580788/z_d408573a.jpg)
http://cs901.vk.me/u9153301/130580788/z_2af488fc.jpg (http://cs901.vk.me/u9153301/130580788/z_2af488fc.jpg) ;D
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My Leucojum vernum carpathicum naturalised where many, many years ago were snowdrop-snowflake beds
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That's fantastic, Janis. Why do you think the snowflakes naturalized where the snowdrops did not?
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Gause's competitive exclusion principle?
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Gause's competitive exclusion principle?
Is that anything to do with bandages?
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Yes, banned ages ago. ::)
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;D ;D ;D
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Gause's competitive exclusion principle?
In my garden I had a mixed clump of Leucojum aestivum and Galanthus nivalis (possibly x plicatus) from which the snowdrops vanished from one year to the next. I presume this was because the bulbs were eaten in preference to leucojum bulbs. On the other hand, it's a bit too dry for the leucojums to be really happy so snowdrops tend to bulk up faster when not attacked.
So my question to Janis is why do the conditions in that locale favour lLeucojum over Galanthus.
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Would each thrive if the other was absent?
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Alan - Here L. vernum spreads proifically by seed whereas G. nivalis seems only to spread by division or rolling about.
For some reason nivalis appears to be forming good seed pods in the garden this year. ??? We've been fooled before though.
johnw
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I've never managed to keep Leucojum vernum for more than a year in my garden! Probably it likes it wet.
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I have a dry well drained chalky soil in my current garden, which because of the many pots gets watered in the summer, but never gets water-logged in winter. Snowdrops seem to grow anywhere in it.
I have 2 clumps of the Leucojum. One is close to a clump of Polystichum setiferum fern and grew well to start with but has declined as the fern grows bigger. Another later planted clump just 3 feet away has increased to many bulbs, and this is under things like Cyclamen hederifolium, Pulmonaria and various weeds for much of the year. Both are within 6" of a paved path which probably keeps the area damp for much of the year. The 2 clumps can only really differ in summer as regards soil water content.
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Although it is May, not worth to start new topic. I'm afraid that snowdrops are blooming only here. This is unusual and constant form of Galanthus platyphyllus.
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Good looking!!!