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Title: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 09, 2013, 09:42:56 AM
I just returned from fantastical and incredibly successful trip to Greece. My main target was Athos peninsula - this semi-independent church-state in Greece where only 4 non-ortodox male are allowed to enter daily and not longer than for 4 days. Of course - well in advance special permission - some kind of visa you must obtain.
I’m again going to search mysterious crocus pictured there and published on internet as Crocus pallasii, but it certainly belongs to biflorus group. Last year in sea were storm and so no access was possible because it is allowed to enter this semi-island only. But monks didn’t forget to cash 30,- Euro for this dimitirion (visa).
So this spring I again applied for permission to visit Athos. I decided to go there a month later, hoping that weather will be better, but in any case I added two days for staying there in case if returning would delay for weather reasons. And weather broadcast for trip time was perfect - really no wind, no rain, temperature +10-17 C. After Latvian cold - marvellous weather.
Last summer on Athos were large forest-fires, so I’m a little afraid that crocus localities could be destroyed. But as you can see - everywhere left some green islands. Later turned that fires destroyed only north part forests, but crocuses were recorded only from South. Trip starts from Ouranopolis, where you must receive dimitirion (30,- Euro) and then get ticket to ferry (7.50 Euro) for Daphni - single entry point to Holy Mountain (Agion Oros). This year I'm accompanied by my Czech friend who is Cyclamen-lover, so no competition for crocuses.
From sea a lot of monasteries are achievable. Panteleimona is the largest. It is Russian monastery where at best time lived 2000 monks.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 09, 2013, 10:15:29 AM
There is bus guiding from Daphni to Administrative Centrum of Athos - Karyes. By Lonely Planet there are two guest-houses, but it seems that at present only one left. Price 30,- Eu per night - toilet in corridor - old style with hole in floor. Instead of wardrobe there are nails in doors. Horribly hot - we open both small windows to keep temperature down. Quality of beds is out of comment. Large holes in floor are closed by building foam. So named restaurant at base floor offers us great menu from 5 selections - 1) ouzo (anis brandy), 2) beer, 3) coffee, 4) salad, 5) pasta. We order salad + pasta. Salad was made from fresh cabbage, finely sliced and overtopped by marinade with few small peaces of carrot, cucumber and paprika (really very few peaces). Pasta was overtopped with some gravy and sliced goat cheese of uncertain age and horrible taste. Glass of water was free of charge, but this meal cost us 20,- Euro per person… Next breakfast we were offered only 2 choices - coffee (we resigned) and bean soap for 5,- Euro per person. Amazingly - later we found just opposite side of street two shops - there we bought various meals + 2 bottles of wine and bread for all next days for another 40,- Euro. Greatest surprise for me in this shop is canned smoked fish in oil produced in Latvia and sparkling wine “Riga Champaign” from Latvia.
Of course - alternative was to live in monastery with monks, but you must to stay in each monastery only for one night, to live by monks schedule and it must be free of charge, but you must book monasteries in advance.
Janis
P.S. Some of pictures are made by my Czech friend - Vaclav Jošt.
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 09, 2013, 10:50:22 AM
Previous studies showed that searched biflorus crocus was earlier recorded in 1914 under hazelnut plantings near Karyes, then in 1944 near Karakalou monastery and it was pictured and published on internet near Iviron monastery (in 2007 or 2009). As we came in Karyes at midday, we decided to use the rest of light day to explore surroundings of Karyes. Of course I had no hopes to 100 years old hazelnut plantings, but there were plenty of bulbs in vicinity. Just near Karyes were large fields with snowdrop leaves, from bus window driving to Karyes we saw a lot of Scilla bifolia in full bloom. But I didn’t sea any place with hazelnuts and even more - nothing what would look as Crocus habitat. Everywhere jungles of spiny shrubs, especially impassable blackberry jungles. In one spot close to road we found large clumps with Lilium candidum in company with lily-beetle. In many places are blooming anemones. And then came small meadow which could be crocus habitat, but grass is so long - it is too late, all observations and pictures of this crocus were made at end of January. But there are some Romulea in full bloom.
How I spotted leaves of Crocus there - I still can’t understand. It happens after few steps on this small meadow, but even long search didn’t succeed in finding of second one. And this single one by corm looked more like C. pulchellus, growing here, too. Further between Erica with some openings single what I saw was huge and thick snake quickly hiding from sunny opened spot into shrubs. We walked some 5-6 hours, taking small passes (now almost unused more as large roads are built up). In evening I felt strong pain in legs and used Finalgon unguent and pills against cramps in leg. Winter “sleep” at computer without exercising…
But my mood is very low - it is too late. In such grass to find crocuses without flowers and without knowledge about exact locality is almost impossible. So next year again to Athos - then in January. There are growing Crocus chrysanthus too and without flower would not be easy to determine which annulate species you find.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 09, 2013, 11:23:04 AM
Next morning after “bean soap” we are making own coffee and are turning in direction to Iviron monastery. By map distance to it is 7.5 km and is needed 2 hours of walk there. Our road there took double time as we made a lot of side research, but without results. There are few spots near Iviron where could be crocuses, but we found nothing. So we turn back on not very good mood. Tomorrow we must took small microbus serving here as taxi for reaching Karakallou monastery - it is 17.5 km from Karyes or 4 hours walk. Fortunately half-way back we stop a car which brings us back to our “hotel”.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 09, 2013, 11:24:39 AM
Few more pictures from 2nd day on Athos.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 09, 2013, 12:31:36 PM
In night we are awakened by very heavy rain. Morning is much cooler with some not very strong wind, but people who came for bus to sea-port soon go back. There will be no connection to “outer world” today. We took taxi-bus to Karakalou. After Iviron we are passing monk’s winery on seaside and taxi brings us to new-built St. Peters roadside church. From here far after valley seem to be some spots which from distance looks something clearer and may be for crocuses, too? Here are plenty of Cyclamen hederifolium leaves on roadsides, some tulip, ornithogalum leaves, too.
Approximating those lighter spots we saw that they are only places where trees were cut down and nature replaced them by spiny jungles of blackberries. On roadside we saw footprints of wild boar and leaf remnants of eaten tulip bulbs. We decide go dawn to seaside. A Road winds down to old unused boat harbour and continue following borderline at some 20 m over sea level. Slope to see is rocky and covered by same blackberry branches. Although at very bottom are some small meadows there are no way down. It took some hour to search before I spotted place with less steep slope where some building rubbish were deposited allowing to step down up to those small grassy flattenings.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 09, 2013, 12:33:24 PM
And there it is. Crocus. Some leaves and between them old flower remnants which were initially blue coloured. I check its tunics - yes! It is biflorus group. Putting eyes up I’m shocked - Crocuses are in full bloom. Not very densely, but plenty. GPS shows altitude at lowest spot 5m over sea level, highest point - 10 m. Now follow picturing, measuring of flower details, leaves etc. It really looks new one species close to stridii and type subspecies of biflorus, but sufficiently different to be regarded as new one. It is growing on decomposed granites - very coarse and wet gravel at so low altitude and so close to sea level that in heavy storm they certainly receive salt-water showers.
Most surprising is its blooming time. All records from higher altitudes (500-600 m) are from January. Here only at 5 m altitude it is at culmination of blooming at start of March. Is it influence of cold sea water?
I collect two specimens for type herbarium, three for DNA research and 3 for myself - looking for variability and thinking about first seed crop in home. Some are with black connectives approximating it to C. stridii growing in same district of Greece, but leaf features are different. From biflorus it can be separated by leaf and flower features.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 09, 2013, 12:35:07 PM
So trip was successful. We return to Monastery and are calling for taxi which brings us back to Karyes. Now remain to hope that to morrow will be ferry back to Ouranopolis. But now is time for Champagne. In any case we have two days in reserve.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Ian Y on March 09, 2013, 01:38:31 PM
Great storey about your trip Janis, I look forward to the next instalment.

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 09, 2013, 02:22:16 PM
Great storey about your trip Janis, I look forward to the next instalment.

Thanks for sharing.
Tomorrow. Today tired with naming, resaizing, writing... Still left Crocuses in N Macedonia - 4 species.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Rob on March 09, 2013, 04:25:47 PM
Great thread, I love seeing plants in the wild and hearing of peoples travel experiences.

Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: pehe on March 09, 2013, 04:28:15 PM
Janis, thank you for this great travel report!
I have been looking forward to read about your trip since you announced some time ago that you were going to Greece looking for crocus. And what a trip - lot of exciting Greek culture and not the least findings of a new crocus, congratulations!

Poul
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 10, 2013, 07:52:23 AM
Thank you for compliments! I'm in hurry to finish report, as after few days I again will have backpack on my shoulders and again will be in mountains to watch crocuses.

Next day again is quiet and ferry comes to pick up monks, pilgrims and simple workers and such visitors as we. In attached pictures some people pictured in Daphni and on ferry. I don’t think that it is my last visit to Athos. Next spring I must go again, a little later. There still is another one crocus waiting on slopes of Holy Mount, but it is growing much higher and so this time was too early for it. After 2 hours we are in Ouranopolis, pick up our car and turn to North. I want to see Crocus alexandrii in nature. I have it in my collection and I have a lot of seedlings from wild collected seeds (my Australian friend generously shared with me his seed gatherings), but never saw it blooming in nature. At present most difficult is to find hotel - there are hundreds of them, but we are out of season and only very few are working. Fortunately at our lunch “taverna” owner calls his friend - hotel owner, who wait us on roadside showing road to our sleeping place. Comparing with Karyes “guest house” it is very luxurious although for same 30,- Euro per night.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 10, 2013, 08:05:00 AM
Weather changes every day. Yesterday was hot, today again cool and mountain tops in clouds. We turn to Drama and further to Bulgarian border. This huge Monument of lion was built up at burying place of one of Admirals of Alexander The Great (Alexander of Macedonia).
Entering real mountains we spot on roadside yellow dots - crocuses are blooming. From distance they look as chrysanthus and we stop only in some distance from Granitis. Closer view shows that it has wide leaves and first opened flower confirms that it is Crocus olivieri. It is now in full bloom. Vaclav spots fantastic mutation with creamy flowers and kindly presents this one abnormality to me.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 10, 2013, 08:14:51 AM
Flowering of olivieri seems that at this altitude could be too late for biflorus crocuses. And it really is so - we found some alexandrii here, but very few and mostly with damaged, old flowers. Nice pleasure is to see fabulous Pulsatilla at very start, although it is not bulb.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 10, 2013, 08:26:21 AM
We drive up and next stop is shortly before Granitis. It is higher and there are more Crocus alexandrii, but still dominates C. olivieri. There we found nice alexandrii with pure white flowers. At some spot were plenty of leaves without flowers, checking corm tunics it turns annulate crocus, so most likely it is chrysanthus which blooming was long ago.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 10, 2013, 08:34:36 AM
We took one of side roads to drive up in mountains, but still nothing changes, only some Helleborus sp. and nice Gagea are blooming here in addition to earlier seen crocuses. There are plenty of Marble mines and everywhere hill sides are cut opening glistening white stone and large lories are bringing down huge pieces of marble to cutting factories.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 10, 2013, 08:49:15 AM
We still have plenty of time, so after short discussion we decide to drive higher, may be to reach snow-zone. Start dark forests, it is not for crocuses but on roadsides appear remnants of snow. We almost turn back and then forests ends and… here it is. Crocus alexandrii is in full bloom. If at lover altitudes were mostly whitish forms, here dominates purple ones. On other side are huge yellow spots - it is Crocus chrysanthus, blooming together with alexandrii. Here three entries from this spot to show more pictures.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 10, 2013, 08:50:46 AM
Some more pictures of Crocus alexandrii.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 10, 2013, 09:00:22 AM
Most interesting that Crocus chrysanthus is growing on one side of road, alexandrii on other side and further from road again starts only chrysanthus, but there were one small spot where both species were growing together in mixed population and there they were - to specimens which flowers certainly confirm their hybrid origin. The first is very distinct hybrid, in the second presence of chrysanthus blood you can see only by yellow tips of petals.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on March 10, 2013, 09:03:06 AM
A great tour Janis.
And a fine crocus world too.
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 10, 2013, 09:24:47 AM
We saw everything desired and as we are in district where is plenty of caves - we decide to go to Aggitis cave. But water level in this time of year is far too high and cave is closed for visitors. On picture spot where Aggitis River comes out from hills bottom and you can see how river waters flow over pedestrian bridge. There is small church or praying house just near cave. At parking place are blooming Ornithogalums. After that we return to known hotel where we passed last night and take a lunch in same taverna. Next morning we are going to Vertiskos Mountains where I want to check how widely is distributed autumn blooming crocus which by flower looks very close to Crocus pallasii. We found that it is much more widespread on those mountains than supposed earlier - we found it at every stop maid there starting from Sochos up to Dhorkas at altitudes over 350 m. There are growing Crocus chrysanthus, too but we spotted only 2 flowers. It is too late for it at so low altitudes, but it was compensated by fantastic blooms of Romulea.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 10, 2013, 09:38:04 AM
And now my last entry about this trip - plants pictured on Vertiskos mountains. From Crocus pallasii you can see only leaves. It is very strange that it was noted in Greece flora only so late. In 2002 David Stephens published report about this crocus seen in central Macedonia (Crocus Group Bulletin #30). Their team followed footsteps of Neil Jacobsen who reported about small population of Crocus pallasii seen between Drama and Xanthi and between Serres and Thesalonikii. Later the same crocus was reported by Christopher Greenwell and Simon Silcock and I wrte about it last spring. In attachment one picture of its flower made in my collection just before started frost in December. It was so late that to force its blooming I brought pot inside.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Tony Willis on March 10, 2013, 09:51:17 AM
Janis

excellent report on your trip ,thank you. Some really good looking crocuses particularly the C.biflorus alexandri.
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: ian mcenery on March 10, 2013, 10:41:18 AM
Thank you Janis for an interesting report on your trip. It was almost like being there 
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: I.S. on March 10, 2013, 12:18:53 PM
  Janis,
Rally very nice and so interesting reports from Greece.  I am very happy that you have found that new one! It is very strange that, sea lavel plant start to flower later than mountains!. It might be because of they are too close to sea so they fell cool weather or some water coming from see over them in jenuary, february and this time of year area start to dry a little!

It is very nice to see C. alexandri from Greece. The pale forms are very simmilar to turkish form of but I never seen so dark form of this plant in my part. Neither looking around whole one day! But location was also very simmilar, with olivieri, oaks, calkstons.. ex...


Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Armin on March 11, 2013, 06:29:59 PM
Congratulation for the new crocus find and the exploratory travel report. :)

I'm impressed by the beauty of C. alexantrii. The high contrast of blue/violet and white in the best forms makes it very attractive.  8)
A pity cvs. 'Major' & 'Eye-catcher' disappeared from commerce (because stocks were virused to a high grade?).

But maybe you have found already its successors 'Devine Lightning' & 'Eyebright' ;D
Title: Re: Crocus March in Greece
Post by: Hillview croconut on March 14, 2013, 09:02:12 PM
Hi Janis,

It is wonderful to see these plants in flower. Judging from the extensive seed crop every year when I have been there it must be a stunning vista. I am surprised that you found so few hybrids. Crocus chrysanthus grows in quantity adjacent to biflorus in at least two sites I know. Just as you emerge from the beech forest near a little chapel at about 1100m and further up the road opposite a picnic ground where there is a basin-like valley with pine trees at its head.

Deeply envious of your trip. At least when we were there in June last year the River Aggitis cave was open and it was spectacular, especially the recreated water wheel the locals set in place to contol irrigation (and did they use it for power?).

It was too late to look for Crocus pallasii at David's site.

Cheers, Marcus
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