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Title: Crocus March
Post by: zvone on March 03, 2013, 09:13:38 PM
Hi!

Spring is here!

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Best Regards!  zvone
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Tim Ingram on March 04, 2013, 05:53:00 PM
Crocus herbertii flowering on a raised bed made for trilliums and the like - such a remarkable colour and one of the few crocuses we have managed to grow whilst the garden paid dues to the local rabbits.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 04, 2013, 06:40:13 PM
Zvone,
lovely. Is it C. reticulatus?

Tim,
what a marvelous golden egg like color, especially when bulking up so nicely.  8)
Unfortunately, I lost C. herbertii by black frost last year.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: DaveM on March 04, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
A couple of crocus here from this weekend

Crocus adanensis
Crocus gargaricus
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Roma on March 04, 2013, 08:27:36 PM
Crocus herbertii  very cheerful when the weather is dull
Crocus sieberi tricolor
Crocus angustifolius
Seedling from 'Hubert Edelsten'
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: udo on March 06, 2013, 06:35:32 PM
the first really sunny and warm day,
some new flowers:
Crocus alatavicus
    ''      korolkowii 'Albus' 2x, not white, inside a pale cream
    ''            ''         'Apricot'
    ''      veluchensis x cvijicii 'Rainbow Gold'
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: udo on March 06, 2013, 06:45:04 PM
and more from the biflori section:
Crocus atrospermus
    ''      caelestis
    ''      kerndorffiorum
    ''      Mix isauricus and bornmuelleri
    ''      biflori Göktepe x chrysanthus
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: de.da. on March 06, 2013, 07:25:09 PM
So nice blossoms! I'm so happy to see Dirk and his crocuses to live soon!
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 07, 2013, 08:37:41 AM
A couple of crocus here from this weekend
Crocus adanensis
Crocus gargaricus

Dave,
two very nice potful of crocus. Well bred. 8)
Does C. adanensis set seed with you?
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 07, 2013, 08:49:39 AM
Roma,
I'm pleased to see your crocus collection increasing!

Dirk,
outstanding collection and rarities :o
I hope that the forecasted cold spell of bad weather for the weekend will cause no frost damages and that sunshine and warmth comes back soon.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: David Nicholson on March 07, 2013, 01:48:39 PM
Crocus vernus 'Michael's Purple' complete with outriders who are no more now! Greenhouse down for spraying tomorrow.

 
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Thomas Huber on March 07, 2013, 02:16:26 PM
Finally we have some sun in Neustadt and the lawn is colouring:
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Thomas Huber on March 07, 2013, 02:20:32 PM
Some of the few survivors of last years desaster in the open garden:
- Crocus baytopiorum, from Anne with many thanks  :-*
- Crocus reticulatus from Italy
- Crocus weldenii, growing together with reticulatus in Italy
- a special form of Crocus vernus (n=16), also from Italy, that doesn't fit with the standard vernus (n=8).
   Will probably soon be described as a new species
- C. versicolor and some selected chrysanthus hybrids from my lawn
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Thomas Huber on March 07, 2013, 02:22:45 PM
... and finally some chrysanthus hybrids that I found in my lawn and replanted them into the garden:
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: daveyp1970 on March 07, 2013, 02:26:08 PM
Some of the few survivors of last years desaster in the open garden:
- Crocus baytopiorum, from Anne with many thanks  :-*
- Crocus reticulatus from Italy
- Crocus weldenii, growing together with reticulatus in Italy
- a special form of Crocus vernus (n=16), also from Italy, that doesn't fit with the standard vernus (n=8).
   Will probably soon be described as a new species
- C. versicolor and some selected chrysanthus hybrids from my lawn
Wow that new vernus(species) is spectacular and your hybrids are fantastic as well Thomas
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: David Nicholson on March 07, 2013, 02:41:26 PM
Hi Thomas good to have you posting again. Niiiccce ;D
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Thomas Huber on March 07, 2013, 03:02:42 PM
Thanks, Dave and David.

I should mention, that I identified the new vernus wrong as Crocus etruscus, when I found them first some years ago.
See here for more good forms: http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5314.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=5314.0)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: daveyp1970 on March 07, 2013, 03:33:43 PM
Incredible the variation is fantastic .
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 07, 2013, 05:57:44 PM
Thomas,
mouthwatering images 8) :P Lovely chysanthus hybrids.

Some shy flowers from my meadow. Ground was still deep frozen in the shadow this morning.
I'm delighted - this year are many bees around - hope for more seed :D
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 07, 2013, 06:03:39 PM
more...
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: udo on March 08, 2013, 07:34:40 AM
Roma,
I'm pleased to see your crocus collection increasing!

Dirk,
outstanding collection and rarities :o
I hope that the forecasted cold spell of bad weather for the weekend will cause no frost damages and that sunshine and warmth comes back soon.
Thanks Armin,
now are ' only ' even announced -8°C and richly snow. All plants will well hopefully get over this. At the beginning of the week the prediction still lay in -15°C.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: tonyg on March 08, 2013, 10:26:40 AM
... and finally some chrysanthus hybrids that I found in my lawn and replanted them into the garden:
Great to see your garden again Thomas!  Some nice hybrids.  Here we had Spring this week ..... just 2 days and now it is cold with more snow on the way for the next two weeks  :(   Hope the weather is kinder to you.  In this cold weather the flowers will last a long time but not many pollinators here yet and fertilisation will fail in the frost  :'(
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 09, 2013, 09:17:18 AM
Latvia is frozen. This winter Riga Gulf remained without ice-cover - but it will be hardened next week (by weather broadcast on night to Monday temperature here will fell to minus 27 C - we wait coldest night during this winter). My greenhouses again were covered with glass-wool regardless of crocus blooming. But I didn’t saw them as I was away in Greece. Fortunately my helper did this job in my absence. Some spring at present offered not earlier than 20th of March. Yesterday I took out 2 accidental pots and they flourished on my bathrooms windowsill.
Crocus chrysanthus TULA-021 (near Yenice - Turkey)
Crocus korolkowii Mountains Glory
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Gerdk on March 10, 2013, 05:10:43 PM
Here are some Crocus tommasinianus in a semi natural environment  (the edge of a small beech forest) - a few days before the weather changed dramatically.

Gerd
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: tonyg on March 10, 2013, 07:17:54 PM
Here are some Crocus tommasinianus in a semi natural environment  (the edge of a small beech forest) - a few days before the weather changed dramatically.

Gerd
So you have seen dramatic change too.  Snow and ice again here.   :(
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 10, 2013, 09:47:41 PM
Crocus paschei opened in my frame today

is this identified correctly?

Rimmer
SE Michigan
USA
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: tonyg on March 10, 2013, 11:19:08 PM
Crocus paschei opened in my frame today

is this identified correctly?

Rimmer
SE Michigan
USA
Looks ok to me
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 11, 2013, 05:20:46 AM
So you have seen dramatic change too.  Snow and ice again here.   :(

You name this dramatic?  ;D ;D ;D Here this morning minus 25 C. :'( :'( :'(
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: tonyg on March 11, 2013, 10:58:51 AM
You name thisd dramatic?  ;D ;D ;D Here this morning minus 25 C. :'( :'( :'(
Janis
This time last week, warm sunshine, breakfast in the garden.   Today ... Blizzards!  Crazy weather  ::)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Tony Willis on March 13, 2013, 02:12:00 PM
Another Crocus x gothenburgensis in flower,better marked than some of the others.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 13, 2013, 02:24:20 PM
Tony,
simply marvelous, a real stunner 8)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 13, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Tony,
simply marvelous, a real stunner 8)

I have to agree with Armin, Tony : this is one goodlooking plant !
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: ian mcenery on March 13, 2013, 06:31:56 PM
Another Crocus x gothenburgensis in flower,better marked than some of the others.

Very striking Tony.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: annew on March 13, 2013, 08:10:48 PM
Wow! That would be great to paint! What a colour combination.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 13, 2013, 10:23:28 PM
Another Crocus x gothenburgensis in flower,better marked than some of the others.

Very nice Tony,
what is the parantage that makes up C. x gothenburgensis?
so i can try to breed one of these

Rimmer
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Tony Willis on March 13, 2013, 10:30:39 PM
The cross is either Crocus pelistericus x C. scardicus or as in this case C. scardicus x C. pelistericus with the scardicus being the seed bearing parent and the pelistericus the pollen.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 14, 2013, 08:19:35 PM
Sunny but cold day in SE Michigan
tommies beginning to bloom in yard.
this clump began life as "Pictus" but seeded around to form all sorts of seedlings likely crossed with Ruby Giant located 30 feet away

Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 14, 2013, 08:20:48 PM
Crocus reticulatus  vernus probably ssp albiflorus opened today in a cold frame

is this a particular form?

Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: tonyg on March 14, 2013, 10:46:47 PM
Crocus reticulatus opened today in a cold frame

is this a particular form?

This is a particular form of Crocus vernus, probably ssp albiflorus.  It has been doing the rounds in the seed exchanges for years.  (Unfortunately) it always sets lots of seed  :-X

Sorry to disappoint.  Although I think it is a rather narrow petalled and 'nondescript' form, having been berated for my opinions in the past  ;D  I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 15, 2013, 12:08:19 AM

Sorry to disappoint.  Although I think it is a rather narrow petalled and 'nondescript' form, having been berated for my opinions in the past  ;D  I know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

i agree it is not very nice, especially compared to the other beauties shown on this forum

i got to start somewhere

Rimmer
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: tonyg on March 15, 2013, 10:58:01 AM
i agree it is not very nice, especially compared to the other beauties shown on this forum

i got to start somewhere

Rimmer
You have many beauties in your collection and for some folk, this is one of them.  The great thing about this forum is that we can share both our plants and our experiences.   I have found new names for a few of my plants too over the years!
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: TC on March 15, 2013, 04:22:16 PM
A pot of "garden crocus"in the greenhouse.  Obviously of peasant stock being big and blousey but reliable to flower whatever !
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 15, 2013, 07:48:27 PM
Crocus reticulatus  vernus probably ssp albiflorus opened today in a cold frame

is this a particular form?

It perfectly match with my Crocus albiflorus from Switzerland, Jura mnt. where in same population grow such bicolored, pure white and pure blue specimans. I like it very much! Greetings!
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Roma on March 15, 2013, 10:11:22 PM
The only crocus I have making a decent show this year and not enough sun to open it :(
Crocus etruscus
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: daveyp1970 on March 21, 2013, 03:30:51 PM
This Crocus chrysanthus seedling flowered today,i do not know what its parents are.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF2252_zpsd467de87.jpg)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF2263_zpsb7cf3faa.jpg)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF2262_zpsbab9b89e.jpg)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Maggi Young on March 21, 2013, 03:41:07 PM
Is that a sort of blue/lilac tint on the outers? It has a very fine full shape when fully open. Wonder if there is some C. sieberi lurking in there?
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: daveyp1970 on March 21, 2013, 03:54:45 PM
Yes Maggie it has a lilac outer edge with a gold/yellow inner part as for the parents i don't have a clue,it came to me as crocus chrysanthus from a seed ex.I love the sunset colours on the flower when its closed.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Maggi Young on March 21, 2013, 04:04:54 PM
Right, I thought it was more lilac than blue but it can be hard to tell in a photo.
With the  poor weather at the minute, it's as well to be able to appreciate the outside of the flowers - we're seeing a lot more of that than the insides at the moment.
Some sun right this minute, but too late to open anything much.... :-\
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: daveyp1970 on March 21, 2013, 04:11:49 PM
Maggie you might be seeing the flower colour right,i am colour blind and see things a little bit different.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Maggi Young on March 21, 2013, 04:22:23 PM
Thought I'd take advantage of  that blink of sun- now gone - to see what was opening up here this afternoon .
Under glass the only open star is Crocus 'Hubert Edelsten'- a real gem with such pretty markings.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Maggi Young on March 21, 2013, 04:23:59 PM
Outside things are looking the worse for the weather- even the Crocus herbertii have suffered and are not managing to get enough sun to open up fully.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 21, 2013, 04:47:32 PM
This Crocus chrysanthus seedling flowered today,i do not know what its parents are.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF2252_zpsd467de87.jpg)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF2263_zpsb7cf3faa.jpg)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF2262_zpsbab9b89e.jpg)
I suppose - some biflorus involved.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: tonyg on March 21, 2013, 07:37:38 PM
This Crocus chrysanthus seedling flowered today,i do not know what its parents are.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF2252_zpsd467de87.jpg)]

If from cultivated seed it could be a hybrid between two of the common cultivars.  Below is a picture taken this week of a spontaneous hybrid in a roadside planting where one of the yellows has crosses with a blue, giving something not a million miles from what you have.  Several yellow cultivars are in this big planting and 'Blue Pearl' is also nearby.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 21, 2013, 07:40:44 PM
Dave,
it is a very nice hybrid, well bred. :) Thanks for showing the open flower :D

Seed came from me. My records say seed source was C. chrysanthus 'Romance' ;). The pollen donator is unknown.
I can imagine one of the blue/lilac flowering cultivars was involved like Zenith, Blue Pearl, Spring Pearl, Blue Bird, Eye catcher, Ladykiller, Prins Claus, C. (biflorus) tauri, Advance and Skyline.

'Romance' in good years set some, more often sparse or no seed. In order to set seed it requires external pollen as anthers are defective.
This beautiful result motivates to hand-pollinate and to raise more from seed. :)

Unfortunately I lost Zenith, Spring Pearl, Eye catcher & C. tauri by last years fatal black frosts... :(
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 21, 2013, 07:45:13 PM
Tony,
the Earlham hybrid is beautiful. Like all those pastel tones.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: daveyp1970 on March 21, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
Cheers Armin  ;)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 21, 2013, 08:42:22 PM
Dave,
it is a very nice hybrid, well bred. :) Thanks for showing the open flower :D

Seed came from me. My records say seed source was C. chrysanthus 'Romance' ;). The pollen donator is unknown.
I can imagine one of the blue/lilac flowering cultivars was involved like Zenith, Blue Pearl, Spring Pearl, Blue Bird, Eye catcher, Ladykiller, Prins Claus, C. (biflorus) tauri, Advance and Skyline.

'Romance' in good years set some, more often sparse or no seed. In order to set seed it requires external pollen as anthers are defective.
This beautiful result motivates to hand-pollinate and to raise more from seed. :)

Unfortunately I lost Zenith, Spring Pearl, Eye catcher & C. tauri by last years fatal black frosts... :(

Romance was raised by Willem  van Eeden (If I remember correctly, at least I got it from him) from open pollinated chrysanthus cultivars seeds which mostly are hybrids between chrysanthus and biflorus. Willem told me that his so named chrysanthus hybrids comes from open pollination.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: tonyg on March 21, 2013, 11:19:19 PM
Dave,
Seed came from me. My records say seed source was C. chrysanthus 'Romance' ;). The pollen donator is unknown.
I can imagine one of the blue/lilac flowering cultivars was involved like Zenith, Blue Pearl, Spring Pearl, Blue Bird, Eye catcher, Ladykiller, Prins Claus, C. (biflorus) tauri, Advance and Skyline.
'Romance' in good years set some, more often sparse or no seed. In order to set seed it requires external pollen as anthers are defective.
This beautiful result motivates to hand-pollinate and to raise more from seed. :)
Very interesting.  'Romance' is one of the most plentiful of the crocuses in the Earlham roadside display so it may well be the parent of the plant I showed.  Blue Pearl is the only pure blue here.  I see quite a lot of seedlings with Prins Claus influence, the big purple blotch is often passed on .... but is not seen in the plant I have illustrated.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 24, 2013, 04:26:59 PM
Weather broadcast for coming week offers night frosts "only" to minus 10 C, so I decided to start opening of cover. Here you can see this process and how Crocus beds lookes just after opening and few hours later. But other plants ar looking for light, too - on pictures - sharp bud of reticuklata iris grew through cover, but Corydalis find gap in cover, pushing up some side of covering sheet.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 24, 2013, 05:22:53 PM
So many crocuses are blooming now in same time. Pity - I couldn't join you at crocus blooming in Germany, UK etc. But you can see them now, when your season mostly finished.
One of earliest to bloom is Crocus chrysanthus. I very like cv. SUNSPOT, but problem is that it is very difficult now to get healthy, good growing stock of it. Both stocks bought by me turned virus and fusarium infected and original plants soon were lost. But I got some seeds. Most of seedlings has yellow/orange/red stigma, but few has black. Here one of such seedlings, not so good as mother plant, as stigma are split in longer branches, but seem to be good grower.
In wild I found one specimen with stigma identical with SUNSPOT, only flowers are something smaller.
From the first blooming of Sunspot in my collectyion I tried to get hybrid with black anthers and stigma in same flower. This spring first such seedling bloomed, but it comes from cros between black anthered wild form and this wild plant with black stigma. This seedlings stigma isn't really black, but dark brown, but it confirms that such hybrid is possible.
And one hybrid between chrysanthus and isauricus with bicolored flowers.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 24, 2013, 05:31:42 PM
Looks that this will be last entry today. At first Crocus hittiticus from stock originally collected by Brian Mathew.
Several of Crocus antalyensis
Crocus antalyensis subsp. striatus described by Osman Erol
Form of Crocus antalyensis from most North situated location in N Turkey
I bought several antalyensis corms from my good friend and excellent nurseryman in France, between those was this beautiful seedling, most likely hybrid with some flavus subsp., which genetically is close to antalyensis.
My own hybrid between Crocus antalyensis x  C. flavus dissectus is much more yellow colored and it isn't easy to distinguish it from subsp. dissectus.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 25, 2013, 05:41:36 AM
Some more crocuses from yesterday. Will start with some Iranian gatherings of Crocus biflorus group. By my opinion there are 2 new species, 3 samples I got from my friends other are WHIR aquisitions.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 25, 2013, 05:44:40 AM
Still more few of WHIR Crocus biflorus and Crocus korolkowii SNOW LEOPARD - true stock, selected by John Grimshaw with blue throat. And last in this entry - Crocus sieberi seedling from seeds gathered on Omalos plain in Crete.
Janis
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 26, 2013, 06:50:50 AM
Almost all my crocuses now are in full bloom, can't picture and put names on all. All the day yesterday checked names, stocks etc. Here still few pictures from Sunday. This morning we had outside minus 13 C. What happened in my polytunels - still don't know. Will go there when temperature will rise up.
Will start with Crocus atrospermus. It is type collection plant from Erich.
Next one is the best form of Crocus caricus, which I got from Rick. We collected it together supposing that it is nerimaniae, but between Rick's plants was this beauty. Later I twice visited this spot and vicinity in spring at blooming time, but nothing so good found more.
Crocus biflorus group species (unidetified) comes from Jim Archibald by his wish. It was originally collected by him SE Cevizli, Turkey.
This very beautiful Crocus chrysanthus was collected at Gembos yaila
Crocus isauricus from near Ibradi.
Still 3 more entries will follow.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 26, 2013, 06:55:52 AM
Crocus atticus nivalis unusually early comparing with others
Crocus hartmannianus from Dirch
Crocus ionopharynx got from Erich
and two forms of Crocus leucostylosus both got from Erich, too
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 26, 2013, 07:04:36 AM
The first is Crocus nubigena collected by me on Samos Island (Greece) just near W Turkey border
Then three pictures of Crocus atroviolaceus - first two were collected by myself in old orchard under Castanea sativus tree, inside village, the third is from yaila. I got that from Gothenburg BG and I don't know who actually collected it. This gathering confirmed its wider distribution than supposed earlier.
The flower petals looks pursy, but it is not virus - flowering started below cower and were pressed from top by glass-wool sheets.
The last in this entry I collected as white Crocus chrysanthus near Denizli, but surrounding plants were C. crewei, so I'm not certain about correct identification and will check this at harvesting time when I will see its tunics.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 26, 2013, 07:18:39 AM
And now last entry for this morning.
First two pictures are of Crocus leichtlinii - one is usual (if we can use this word for this Crocus) form, got by me from Gothenburg. Another I got as Crocus aerius from Kamerlander (as KKPS-9301 ) and as C. leichtlinii from Archibald. So this spring I identified this stock. Really the single difference is in shape of petals, in Archibald's stock they are wider and rounded, but typical colour of petals and anthers gives no doubt about identification.
Then comes Crocus munzurense aff. - still not officially published, but such name was used by Erich in THE PLANTSMAN, it is not type collection, but from vicinity, so I'm adding aff. (close to)
Crocus yakarianus is another one still unpublished species, at least I didn't found its official publication. May be it was resigned by editor as manuscript was really ;D but I think that this Crocus need its name. I collected it just near type collection, only a little lower saving it from bulldozers as next day it would be bulldozered away by new road building.
And the last is pure yellow Crocus olivieri balansae. This gathering really confuses me. It was collected as type subspecies and really other 4 plants collected together are type subsp. olivieri. Colour of this one is as in olivieri, but stigma is clearly many divided as in balansae. How to regard it? Abnormal olivieri? Pure yellow balansae? Or may be both must be joined? On Chios island both are reported. From many acquisitions got there at many localities (collected without flowers) no one turned balansae.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 26, 2013, 08:07:27 AM
Marvelous images, Janis. 8) 8) 8)
Thank you for showing your treasures of your unique collection and sharing the stories behind with us.

I could put all on 'my wishlist' but I know I can't please them under my garden conditions and limitations I have. :(
But I enjoy every beauty you show us. :D
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: ielaba2011 on March 26, 2013, 04:54:11 PM
Some crocus in my garden, I love the crocus flower, but unfortunately I don't know which variety is this...
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 26, 2013, 05:02:26 PM
Some crocus in my garden, I love the crocus flower, but unfortunately I don't know which variety is this...
It looks as some of large flowering Dutch crocus varieties (Crocus x cultorum), but I'm afraid that this plant is virus infected. So you must destroy it, but better wait for other comments from forumists. May be I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: ielaba2011 on March 26, 2013, 05:16:54 PM
uhm I have this crocus for many years now....even if this is a virus infected one, I only grow them for the flower, and I don´t have any other viriety. They are too many to be destroyed right now, and I love them ;DD
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Maggi Young on March 26, 2013, 05:20:33 PM
Some crocus in my garden, I love the crocus flower, but unfortunately I don't know which variety is this...

 I think perhaps one of the Dutch "giant" crocus such as 'Flower Record' , Jamie.

I think there is a lot of shade in the photo and also the blooms have obviously been very wet- it may just be weather that affects their look, Janis, not virus.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: ielaba2011 on March 26, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
I think perhaps one of the Dutch "giant" crocus such as 'Flower Record' , Jamie.

I think there is a lot of shade in the photo and also the blooms have obviously been very wet- it may just be weather that affects their look, Janis, not virus.

Thank you Maggi, yes it's been raining a lot in the last couple of weeks, and this photo was actually taken under a umbrella :) I love my crocus! :)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Maggi Young on March 26, 2013, 06:02:03 PM
Thank you Maggi, yes it's been raining a lot in the last couple of weeks, and this photo was actually taken under a umbrella :) I love my crocus! :)

A lot of life has happened under an umbrella this "Spring", eh ? !!  ;D
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 27, 2013, 11:31:29 AM
Few more pictures made on Monday.
Crocus biflorus group JATU-047 from Gugu Beli pass parking. Corms were "dug" out from asfalt and hard pressed stone chip pavement.
Next is unusual Crocus chrysanthus - unfortunately origin is lost but this one deep in throat has blackish zone. Those black spots in centre of flower isnr so named "barbs" of anthers.
The very rare and perfect albino of Crocus olivieri discovered by Ibrahim who kindly shared this beauty with me
And as last one in this entry - two Crocus olivieri - subsp. balansae from from Gothenburg BG and subsp. olivieri from Chios Island
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 27, 2013, 12:08:04 PM
Few year ago I baught Crocus vitellinus white with suffused back - its is name how it was offered. This spring it was planted side by side with Crocus candidus co9llected between Čan and Čanakkale (at locus classicus of Crocus demirizianus) and I really can't separate both. May be this "vitellinus" really is only good growing C. candidus form?
Crocus yataganensis is another rarity described by Erich. Ibrahim twice cris-crossed all mountains around Yatagan, but didn't find (second attempt we made together). Last autumn I got corm from Erich.
And last in this entry - Crocus fleischeri from Chios Island. There many specimens are with lilac striped back of petals.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: udo on March 27, 2013, 01:11:08 PM
Janis, real nice Crocus, especially the new species.
Here is winter without end, -10°C last night and around zero on the day.
A short view under the cover:
Crocus cvijicii and
Crocus heuffelianus 'Snow Princess'
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: art600 on March 27, 2013, 04:55:15 PM
Janis/Dirk

Stunning Crocus - think we need colder weather to get them growing like that  :)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 27, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
Very good crocuses Dirk. My first cvijicii shows noses, too.

In this entry unusual form of recently described Crocus minutus. It has petals striped on inside, too, something similar to C. antalyensis striatus. This minutus has smallest flowers - only around 10 mm long.
After that two forms of Crocus abantensis - my cultivar 'Azkaban's Escapee' and very dark violet form, unusual for abantensis.
Follows Crocus chrysanthus (most likely some blood of isauricus involved) from Gembos Yaila N of Akseki.
And as last today - Crocus nubigena from Samos Island.

Hope that tomorrow I will see some crocus living. Tonight we wait dropping of temperature to minus 19 C.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Roma on March 27, 2013, 08:21:06 PM
Wonderful to see all those beautiful crocuses in this thread.  I lost some and others were much reduced after the 2010-2011 winter and the short growing season last winter seems to have affected most of the survivors.  I have one or two flowers in other pots but Crocus etruscus is the only one where I have a full pot of flowers. 
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 28, 2013, 07:24:07 AM
From the Southern hemisphere, a humble offering of Crocus kotschyanus, our first for the season,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Boyed on March 28, 2013, 07:33:08 AM
A short view under the cover:
Crocus cvijicii and
Crocus heuffelianus 'Snow Princess'

Dirk,

crocus heuffelianus 'Snow Princess' is a stunner, especially when it is blooming in groups!!! I mainly collect highly decorative, desirably large-blooming catchy ones, to to beautify my spring garden. I will keep an eye on this.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: ielaba2011 on March 28, 2013, 10:59:38 AM
Janis, real nice Crocus, especially the new species.
Here is winter without end, -10°C last night and around zero on the day.
A short view under the cover:
Crocus cvijicii and
Crocus heuffelianus 'Snow Princess'
wow this ones are just perfect...
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: ielaba2011 on March 28, 2013, 11:04:01 AM
Very good crocuses Dirk. My first cvijicii shows noses, too.

In this entry unusual form of recently described Crocus minutus. It has petals striped on inside, too, something similar to C. antalyensis striatus. This minutus has smallest flowers - only around 10 mm long.
After that two forms of Crocus abantensis - my cultivar 'Azkaban's Escapee' and very dark violet form, unusual for abantensis.
Follows Crocus chrysanthus (most likely some blood of isauricus involved) from Gembos Yaila N of Akseki.
And as last today - Crocus nubigena from Samos Island.

Hope that tomorrow I will see some crocus living. Tonight we wait dropping of temperature to minus 19 C.

I just love the pale blue color on Crocus abantensis, all this crocus are amazing, it makes me want to have a collection as well...
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: udo on March 28, 2013, 07:34:49 PM
Arthur, Janis, Boyed and Jaime many thanks.

Here three several forms Crocus corsicus in bud today.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 28, 2013, 08:16:06 PM
Dirk,
nice forms of C. corsicus. Unfortunate one of my recent losses :(

Some crocus from my meadow. Images are from yesterday.

When I took the images at 2:30 PM still temperatures were low und the water of the bird drink was still frozen.
Sky was sunny but with a chilly north wind.

After last years black frost desaster the number of flowering crocus has significantly reduced, I guess for now by -80% :(.
Only the strongest did survive!
The majority of surviving crocus have split off in many tiny corms showing only 1 leave or 2 but are now too weak to flower.
A clear sign last growing season has caused massive stress and was not favourable at all. The meadow is full of tiny crocus leaves.

But there are surprises!
-C. biflorus Miss Vain is a total surprise. Flowering reliable as every year.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 28, 2013, 08:27:41 PM
more...

-C. biflorus Parkinsonii - standing in buds since 3 weeks -quite battered by snow and hail shower
-C. heuffelianus Micheals Purple - did not well in raised sand bed but recovering in loamy soil
-C. heuffelianus (ssp. scepusiensis or discolor) - seed raised ex Tatra mountains - first time to flower me - one of my current favourites - Many thanks to Chris.
-C. vernus dutch hybrids or C. x cultorum - seed raised ex Botanischer Garten Wuppertal - first time to flower for me - Special thanks Gerd!
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 28, 2013, 08:35:16 PM
more...

C. heuffelianus (scepusiensis) - my favourite. Hope this sets many seeds. :)
C. x cultorum Negro Boy or Twilight. Darkest of all dutch hybrids. Few flowers but flowers :D

Hope to show more soon :)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Martin Baxendale on March 28, 2013, 09:34:23 PM
Janis, Crocus chrysanthus Gembos yaila is very nice. Is it pure Chrysanthus or a hybrid?
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Palustris on March 28, 2013, 09:36:43 PM
The only Crocus to survive the mice here are these. And these were dug up for Diane Clement.
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Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Rimmer de Vries on March 29, 2013, 01:59:41 AM
Finally the sun came out and the soil thawed out. grass is still brown from the deep freeze
 tommie "Ruby Giant" in south facing  woodsy area along the street.
"Goldilocks" in a rockery

in the frame is the small whitish crocus that came as C. olivieri "Lune" a hybrid with C. candidus subflavus from Paul Christian 

sorry for the poorly focused picture.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 29, 2013, 05:37:37 AM
Janis, Crocus chrysanthus Gembos yaila is very nice. Is it pure Chrysanthus or a hybrid?
Difficult to tell. As I wrote before "Gembos yaila is natural breeding station" - there met two species, or better to tell forms of two species which freely hybridises and even seeing typical looking plant you can't be certain - aren't some genes of other species hided. Nowhere else I saw so many hybrids. There are occasional between alexandri and chrysanthus in Greece, some occasional between pulchricolor and chrysanthus in NW Turkey. But on Gembos each plant looks different and hybridisation seem everydays usual occasion. Of course blooming starts with yellows and higher by slope is generally yellow ones, then comes zone of total mix of colours and shades and at each visit there (I was there three times) I spotted something unusual and as last ones (lower by slope) follows blue zone of isauricus looking plants. Not near Ibradi, not near Akseki or further to Beyshekir I saw something similar. Hurry to visit this place - there somerhouse building goes in full speed and soon this beautifull spot will not more exist.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 29, 2013, 07:35:35 AM
It is very strange season - in same time blooms the earliest Crocus korolkowii, here cv. APRICOT which I got from Sjaak (suppose found wild in Tadjikistan)
and such quite late bloomers as Crocus sieberi from Omalos plain
and Crocus heuffelianus cv.'s 'Carpathian Wonder' seedlings (it is first blooming from seeds sawn 3 years ago.
And last entry - the bed of spring Crocus collection yesterday, late afternoon after all those horrible frosts every night. Tonight here we had only minus 6 C. So all must be OK.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 29, 2013, 07:48:48 AM
Very good Crocus vitellinus with black anthers originally collected by Arnis Seisums in Syria
Two gatherings of Crocus caelestis - the first type collection from Erich, another found by Ibrahim, who visited its loxcality a week after myself. I found nothing (it was too early), Ibrahim was more lucky
One of newcomers - Crocus fauseri, collected at locus classicus
Last in this entry - Crocus munzurense from Erich.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 29, 2013, 07:51:44 AM
Now 2 pictures of unusual Crocus antalyensis - white and yellow-blue
Then three Crocus biflorus - the first certainly new one. All from Turkey.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 29, 2013, 07:57:27 AM
One more Crocus biflorus from Turkey
Natural hybrid between Crocus chrysanthus x C. biflorus - not my gathering
Crocus carpetanus collected in Portugal for me by Brian Duncan - famous daffodil breeder
Type Crocus flavus subsp. flavus from Albena, Bulgaria
And some amusing picture of "double" Crocus hittiticus - unfortunately not permanent, only one season pleasure
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 29, 2013, 07:58:50 AM
Fantastic Crocus, Janis !  :o :o :o

Here, Crocus heuffelianus "Shockwave" (From Pitcairn) puts on a good show, even after 2 successive snowloads and severe nightfrosts....
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 29, 2013, 08:03:37 AM
And last entry (I think) for today
Hybrid between Crocus leichtlinii and C. kerndorfiorum
Then two pictures of Crocus taurii from different locations in E Turkey
And last two are two selections from extremely variable Crocus versicolor - it is first time when I try to grow this species in greenhouse. Although it belongs to most hardy species and very little suffered in last black frost (2 weeks with minus 20-30 C absolutely without snow) for safety (mostly qagainst rodents) I braught my selections to greenhouse.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: de.da. on March 29, 2013, 01:07:03 PM
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Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: ArnoldT on March 29, 2013, 01:56:10 PM
Crocus kosaninii opening in bright early morning sun.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 29, 2013, 06:19:22 PM
Fantastic Crocus, Janis !  :o :o :o

Here, Crocus heuffelianus "Shockwave" (From Pitcairn) puts on a good show, even after 2 successive snowloads and severe nightfrosts....

Luc,
nice clumps of C. heuffelianus. 8)
What is the difference between Shockwave and Shamrock? For me images looks like the same clump ::) :-X
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 29, 2013, 06:28:01 PM
...and Crocus heuffelianus cv.'s 'Carpathian Wonder' seedlings (it is first blooming from seeds sawn 3 years ago.

Quite amazing to see the number of color and pattern variation in Carpathian Wonder seedlings.
Are there some you are going to select?
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 29, 2013, 08:17:36 PM
Luc,
nice clumps of C. heuffelianus. 8)
What is the difference between Shockwave and Shamrock? For me images looks like the same clump ::) :-X

Senior moment, Armin : obviously the name is "Shockwave" - for some reason I called the file Shamrock....  :-[ :-[ :-[
So sorry
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Boyed on March 29, 2013, 08:27:33 PM
Luc,
your heuffelianus 'Shamrock' is very beautiful! What a nice one!

Some crocus vernus Dutch hybrid pix, taken a week before, when I visited country house:

crocus vernus Albiflorus (vigorous form)
crosus vernus 'Nigo Boy'
crocus vernus 'Paulus Potter' (one of my favourite, deep magenta colour, very distinct)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: ielaba2011 on March 29, 2013, 08:29:39 PM
Here  is Crocus carpetanus photo taken last week by a friend in a mountain of central Portugal. There were a lot of them!

Some more pictures in:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=560461187307331&set=a.557466400940143.1073741836.158023274217793&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=560461187307331&set=a.557466400940143.1073741836.158023274217793&type=3&theater)


http://flora-on.pt/#/749N4 (http://flora-on.pt/#/749N4)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Boyed on March 29, 2013, 08:33:29 PM
crocus vernus 'Violet Vanguard'
crocus vernus 'Queen of the Blues' (photo taken by quality is not good, colour is a bit not accurate)
crocus flavus 'Golden Yellow'
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Maggi Young on March 29, 2013, 08:36:17 PM
Here  is Crocus carpetanus photo taken last week by a friend in a mountain of central Portugal. There were a lot of them!

With Narcissus asturiensis, Jaime?  Very pretty hillside.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: ielaba2011 on March 29, 2013, 08:37:36 PM
crocus vernus 'Violet Venguard'
crocus vernus 'Queen of the Blues' (photo taken by quality is not good, colour is a bit not accurate)
crocus flavus 'Golden Yellow'
Zhirair, woww crocus flavus "Golden Yellow" is such a beauty!! ;) congratulation on your crocus!!
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: ielaba2011 on March 29, 2013, 08:49:11 PM
With Narcissus asturiensis, Jaime?  Very pretty hillside.
Yes Maggi, this is Narcissus asturiensis, it´s present mainly in our central and northern mountains. You can see it here: http://flora-on.pt/#/7TEIo (http://flora-on.pt/#/7TEIo)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=557466837606766&set=a.557466400940143.1073741836.158023274217793&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=557466837606766&set=a.557466400940143.1073741836.158023274217793&type=3&theater)

:)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Boyed on March 29, 2013, 08:49:24 PM
Zhirair, woww crocus flavus "Golden Yellow" is such a beauty!! ;) congratulation on your crocus!!

Thanks! Apart from that, it is very floriferous.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Maggi Young on March 29, 2013, 08:51:29 PM
Yes Maggi, this is Narcissus asturiensis, it´s present mainly in our central and northern mountains. You can see it here: http://flora-on.pt/#/7TEIo (http://flora-on.pt/#/7TEIo)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=557466837606766&set=a.557466400940143.1073741836.158023274217793&type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=557466837606766&set=a.557466400940143.1073741836.158023274217793&type=3&theater)

:)
A little gem - I will enjoy looking around those photos, thank you.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on March 29, 2013, 09:30:39 PM
Senior moment, Armin : obviously the name is "Shockwave" - for some reason I called the file Shamrock....  :-[ :-[ :-[
So sorry
Luc, you are excused ;D
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: ashley on March 29, 2013, 10:29:42 PM
Yes Maggi, this is Narcissus asturiensis, it´s present mainly in our central and northern mountains. You can see it here: http://flora-on.pt/#/7TEIo (http://flora-on.pt/#/7TEIo)
Wonderful detailed photos 8)
Thanks for the link Jaime.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Janis Ruksans on March 30, 2013, 04:59:39 AM
Thanks! Apart from that, it is very floriferous.
Correct (registered) name 'Grote Gele' but known as 'Yellow Mammoth' and several other names, too.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Boyed on March 30, 2013, 07:35:09 PM
Correct (registered) name 'Grote Gele' but known as 'Yellow Mammoth' and several other names, too.

Indeed Janis, it has many names. I know all of them, but felt lazy to list them all.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Guff on April 01, 2013, 05:24:33 AM
Crocus in my Coum mixed bed.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2013, 11:06:30 AM
That is one cheeful sight, Guff! I bet you are pleased with how they are doing.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on April 01, 2013, 06:56:12 PM
Guff,
marvelous  8) How about your C. vernus hybrids? Still to come into flower?
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: annew on April 01, 2013, 08:23:22 PM
Bee heaven!
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Guff on April 01, 2013, 08:54:52 PM
Maggi, Armin thanks.

Was lucky to have one warm day to take pictures. They stood closed for about two weeks straight, now it's back to cold/rain/wind and they are flopping.

Armin, only crocus I have in bud in my special bed are white tommies. Should have lots of new hybrid seedlings flowering soon if the squirrels don't ruin them. Hoping to find some dark marked tips this year.

Anne, yes the bees were enjoying the flowers.
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Armin on April 02, 2013, 09:14:20 AM
Guff,
looking forward seeing your images in 'Crocus April' then ;) :D
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: pehe on April 02, 2013, 12:27:54 PM
Crocus in my Coum mixed bed.

Lovely sight Guff!
But shouldn't the text be: "A few Coum in my Crocus bed"  ;D

Poul
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: Guff on April 02, 2013, 01:56:21 PM
The crocus you see in the pictures is just the bottom part of my mixed coum and crocus bed. There are over 350+ coum plants in that bed.

Pictures from last year in the cyclamen thread

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8335.105 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8335.105)
Title: Re: Crocus March
Post by: pehe on April 02, 2013, 02:51:11 PM
Well - you are forgiven!  ;D

Poul
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