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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Hagen Engelmann on February 28, 2013, 06:47:19 PM
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GRÜNER FRÜHAUFSTEHER is here again. Today in snow.
He should start the march.
This month could be the month of the green and continental snowdrops.
When I was in UK I saw a lot of fine snowdrops.
Big, bigger and biggest drops.
But where were the greens?
Yes, I saw CASTLE GREEN DRAGON and ROSEMARY BURNHAM in best quantity and quality,
but after them there was a rapid end.
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Good to see your snowdrop season is starting again Hagen, I hope you are better and will enjoy all the lovely snowdrops.
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Brian, I like to see the flowers much more than the bulbs under the soil. I`m OK again - season begins - I have no other chance.
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Wundervoll Hagen! Is it a Galanthus nivalis?
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What a superb greeny!
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Had visitors the last two days who have enjoyed the snowdrops I bought inside! It was a bit cold for them. Here is one little vase of snowdrops I picked and the other one is on the table surrounded with food! The cold weather seems to be holding them in limbo so hopefully I can get out soon to take some photos.
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Could this bulb be chipped now - it was sliced by mistake? Would I just cut off the neck as usual and trim the roots trying to salvage any basal plate.....or is it too early?
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Wow, this one is stunning and unique, Hagen! :D
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Jenny, I only give those bulbs in a bag of vermiculite and put it in a drawer. Best to disinfect the bulb before. Sometimes I got a fine daughterbulb (smaller but OK), but not always!!!
Fingers crossed.
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Loving the pictures!
What do you use to disinfect bulbs?
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Here is a green for you Hagen, my latest acquisition "Margaret Biddulph"
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Lovely snowdrop Jacqueline, my buds were eaten by some little horror, they seem to like the virescent ones as Hugh Mackenzie was chomped too!
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Jaqueline, I lost my MB also last year, good that you remember: there was another good virescens!!!
I use Dithane Neo Tec but also charcoal powder.
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Hello all, here is my latest seedling from Green Dragon it is called green Shadow, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Jacqueline, this is pretty, too!
Yesterday, I went to visit the garden of Barbara Flynn, one of our Pacific Northwest local galanthophiles, to see her snowdrops. It was amazing, and I saw several interesting unnamed ones. We don't have many collectors here compared to in Europe, so I don't have many chances to see different kinds of snowdrops in person, but it really is nice to be able to see all the little differences between them.
I think that Jim posted about this one on this forum last year, but here is 'Canadian Winter,' discovered by Barbara. It looks very vigorous and forms nice clumps.
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Jenny, I only give those bulbs in a bag of vermiculite and put it in a drawer. Best to disinfect the bulb before. Sometimes I got a fine daughterbulb (smaller but OK), but not always!!!
Fingers crossed.
Hagen ...so do I just chop off the top growth and the roots - then I could soak in fungicide and into the vermiculite? Do I just leave the bulb as it is? Thanks for your help.
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Jenny, I would take off leaves and roots. These parts could be places for the start of fungis!
Don`t forget to disinfect.
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Hello all, here is my latest seedling from Green Dragon it is called green Shadow, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Wow Ian :o :oJust what we all needed.Another perfect plicatus virescens.Thankyou,for the sneek preview.Can i get on the waiting list now? ;D ;D ;D
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GRÜNER FRÜHAUFSTEHER is here again. Today in snow.
He should start the march.
This month could be the month of the green and continental snowdrops.
When I was in UK I saw a lot of fine snowdrops.
Big, bigger and biggest drops.
But where were the greens?
Yes, I saw CASTLE GREEN DRAGON and ROSEMARY BURNHAM in best quantity and quality,
but after them there was a rapid end.
:o :o :o :o :o :o
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I have almost forgotten how to do this its been such a long time but two days of sunshine inspired me to take a few photos so here goes.No exotica I'm afraid but good solid doers that you can stick straight in the ground and without breaking the bank.
ATKINSII
BARBARA'S DOUBLE
COMET
LADY ELPHINSTONE
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CONTINUED
MAGNET IN THE GLADE
MAGNET IN THEWINTER GARDEN
MARJORIE BROWN
MARJORIE BROWN
PRIMROSE WARBURG
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Well done Ian, now they are two (I know) G plicatus virescens!!!
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Much better with a lot of drops, John. Not only singles ;)
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CONTINUED
SPINDLESTONE SURPRISE
STRAFFAN in the winter garden
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Thanks John,Nothing comes close to clumps of little white wonders.....
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John, your garden is a delight to us as ever- thank you so much for sharing.
(I do hope everyone has seen and enjoyed Robert Rolfe's articles on your garden in the AGS bulletin journal. http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8833.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8833.0) )
I agree that clumps of snowdrops are really appealing- like puppies, one is cute but a whole litter is a real joy!
Are your glasshouses getting their hepatica colour now, too?
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Great clumps of 'drops John - and also your soil looks lovely.
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John, your garden is a delight to us as ever- thank you so much for sharing.
(I do hope everyone has seen and enjoyed Robert Rolfe's articles on your garden in the AGS bulletin journal. http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8833.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8833.0) )
Just found that part one of the article is available for non AGS members to read as well : http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/pdf_files/publication/AG-MAR-brinkfields-for-websiteWeb.pdf (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/pdf_files/publication/AG-MAR-brinkfields-for-websiteWeb.pdf)
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John G. your Marjorie Brown is wrongly labelled and there are some interested self sown seedlings there that I would remove and grow by themselves
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Here's a picture of Marjorie Brown on Mark's website http://www.snowdropinfo.com/galanthus%20elwesii%20marjorie%20brown.html (http://www.snowdropinfo.com/galanthus%20elwesii%20marjorie%20brown.html)
Here is another picture I found which does not appear to be the same http://www.flickr.com/photos/evolution-plants/5375522553/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/evolution-plants/5375522553/#)
But I think that Mark's point is that either way the mark on the inner petals is small whereas John Gerrard's clump has a mixture of snowdrops with different inner marks, from very full to two marks with a diffuse green gap between them.
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In my garden Marjorie Brown has just come up.
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Galanthus plicatus, Crimea
"David and Goliath"
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So many beautiful plants in nature, Ru - thank you!
there were a couple of broken links- I have fixed those.
Magical to see the natural variation of the plants.
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I take on board your comments everyone and I rather suspected that M.B.wasn't right but what is it?,it is a massive flower and has been noticed by others as standing out.I note that there are varying degrees of green markings on the sinus but if I planted them all separately I would run out of space.
John,don't be deceived by the (soil) I am on very heavy clay and what you can see is a top dressing of composted bark which I use extensively throughout the garden.Having satd that I have been improving the soil fotr the last 48 yrs.
Maggie I will be posting in HEPATICAS shortly.
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Ru 0gQpYiDcR0I.jpg is brilliant and should be twinscaled this year. Put me on the waiting list!
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What wonderful examples of natural variation Ru, both in flower shape and in markings, quite amazing. Thank you for showing us :D
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Goodness, Ru, what an extraordinary selection.
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What a wonderful place, such great variation.
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What a grand plicatus tour.
Thanks Ru!
johnw
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johng
Stunning robust clumps! :o
johnw
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Ru, I have just found 20 minutes to sit and look at all your linked photographs. What a fantastic amount of variation you have found. Can I ask over what period of time these photographs were taken? And over how many miles?
The two with solid green markings on the outers are absolutely stunning (WlUZ_QNolts.jpg (http://cs319726.vk.me/v319726301/69d2/WlUZ_QNolts.jpg) and 0gQpYiDcR0I.jpg (http://cs319726.vk.me/v319726301/69ae/0gQpYiDcR0I.jpg))- I am also rather drawn to what some would consider the 'ugly one' (4w16rqni8sA.jpg (http://cs319726.vk.me/v319726301/6a23/4w16rqni8sA.jpg)). And the green stripes on xTVxu3_IUg0.jpg (http://cs319726.vk.me/v319726301/69a5/xTVxu3_IUg0.jpg) look good. But many many of the others look very nice too.
Thank you for taking the time to document these interesting snowdrops you have seen.
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It is the most interesting forms only.
26.02-1.03.2013 7-8 hours walked and looked in a day.
Attentively examined 3-5 square kilometre of mountain slopes (h=700-900m).
There yet very much many places which can be examined :)
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Slightly aesthetics :)
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That sounds more fun than my 35 hour week. ;D
Ru - your artistic photographs are beautiful - It would light up any persons day to receive one of those as a Christmas or greetings card.
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Ru, your G. plicatus wood is a magic world. Nothing less your pictures change the wood to the magic world.
You have/are fantastic photographers in Russia. Super!!!
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Hagen, Ru snowdrops photographed in Ukraine :)
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No problem, Natalia.
The magic world is there.
I thought ru means Russia (too). (I do not like to injure national feelings.)
Yes he can be a compatriot of OAKWOOD. Also a good thing.
Ru makes perfect pictures, like two well-known Russian Ladies here at the forum ;).
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East German season increases stronger. So I can show first pictures.
Here are DAS GELBE VON EI and VORNEHME BLÄSSE.
You can see the creamish color of the fresh flower.
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Hagen,Here is some green, For you taken today. ;D
1. Prague Spring.
2. Walter Fish
3. Boyd's Double
4. Trimmer
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East German season increases stronger. So I can show first pictures.
Here are DAS GELBE VON EI and VORNEHME BLÄSSE.
You can see the creamish color of the fresh flower.
That's another beauty Hagen.Do you have any normal galanthus?or are they all amazing?
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Thank you Steve, green is very very good to my eyes.
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Here's some more from today.
1. Barbara's Double
2. Benton Magnet
3. Bill Bishop
4. Comet
5. Corkscrew
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And some more.
1. David Shackleton
2. E.A. Bowles
3. Galadriel
4. Faith Stewart-Liberty
5. Mafangza
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Steve FAITH STEWART-LIBERTY has not enough green on the inner segments. It is false :-[. Sorry :-\
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Thanks Hagen.It came from North Green last year,So it is a young plant.Maybe i need to make another label? :(
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Last ones. ;D
1. Green Tear
2. Mary Biddulph
3. Orleton
4. Phantomas (splattered with mud :()
5. Puck
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Steve, you need another label.
GREEN TEAR - first flower?
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Hagen,Yes first flower,and nearly finished this year.It has faded a little bit.
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So the green world looks OK ;).
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G. plicatus byzantinus ILSE BILSE at the climax of season.
The marks changed to yellow, but the ovary remains in green.
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That is beautiful Hagen.Is it easy to grow? :o ::) :o
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I have it in the cold frame, better for here.
In UK no problem.
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Hagen - Did it come through the winter of 2012 okay in the cold frame? I don't trust these byzantinus outdoors here.
johnw
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This is a nice little plicatus i have selected out it yellowish then gets a tad darker it has now been crossed with a true yellow so cross finger.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF1917_zpsf9aa9530.jpg)
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G. plicatus byzantinus 'Ilse Bilse' has such a lovely mark Hagen, very stately.
Nice selection Davey, the cross with a true yellow will be interesting.
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Very nice with the double mark, Davey.
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Thank you Brian and Anne ;D.
Anne can i ask(also a question for Martin B. as well)when its offspring flower. I am right in thinking a yellow might not result from this one but if i then put a yellow again on the best looking babies the chance are i should get a yellow.I am trying to get a good yellow plicate with twin marks as Anne noticed.
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Thank you Brian and Anne ;D.
Anne can i ask(also a question for Martin B. as well)when its offspring flower. I am right in thinking a yellow might not result from this one but if i then put a yellow again on the best looking babies the chance are i should get a yellow.I am trying to get a good yellow plicate with twin marks as Anne noticed.
Yes, you may not get a yellow in the first generation but if you back-cross the seedlings with a yellow then you should get at least some yellows in the second generation - theoretically about 50%.
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Yes, you may not get a yellow in the first generation but if you back-cross the seedlings with a yellow then you should get at least some yellows in the second generation - theoretically about 50%.
Thank you Martin,would it be ok to pic your brains in the future. :) Breeding is a new chapter for me and i know you are producing some lovely stuff(infact i am giving it ago because of you and Annes posts)
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Steve its good to see someone else has Phantomas. I thought I was the only person with it
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Definitely not Mark ;)
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Just showed today about 12 different cultivars and selections at the weekly flowershow at the Dutch KAVB.
One of the selections has permission to name it The Face, its a elwesii/gracilis hybrid.
By the way i got a gold medal for the lot ;D
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Congratulation for the medal, Gerard.
I hope for quality not for quantity ;).
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Congratulation for the medal, Gerard.
I hope for quality not for quantity ;).
Must have been quality, Hagen - only 12 !!!!
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Congratulations on the gold medal Gerald! :)
Does anyone know Galanthus elwesii 'Marielle'? I bought one on impulse at Harlow on Saturday. It is described by the sellers The plantsman's preference in Diss as "A new selection found in an old garden near Ipswich by Bernard Tickner and Ivan Dickings. Grey foliage and large simple white flowers but the whole plant is big, very big! Up to 35cm when established."
The plant I bought is not big at all but as a pot-grown bulb that is not unexpected. The leaves fold back at the edges as though there is some plicatus in the mix rather than pure elwesii. I bought it as I live near Ipswich and it's nice to have local plants.
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Gail, a nice new member of the MERLIN-group.
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JohnW, yes ILSE BILSE did come through the winter 11/12. Outside most of these types died. But inside no problem. My Belgian friends had no problems outside.
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Sun was very friendly today. So I could take some galanthus portraits.
Here is BOGENLAMPE - Ark lamp.
The German pendant of FLY FISHING.
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MOYA`S GREEN a very lovely soft green tipped snowdrop.
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GREEN TEAR (right) found a new friend, also green.
I shall ask him for his name.
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I lost all parents last winter.
Here are the chopped children of GRÜNE SCHWERTER - GREEN SWORDS.
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Just incredible Hagen!!Every single one is incredible.
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A few more Davy.
Also the next generation: CALEBASSE
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The white CALEBASSE shows the difference to the distinct soft cream of KARLA TAUSENDSCHÖN
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Dancing in the sun: DAS GELBE VOM EI
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Hagen,
All your snowdrops are lovely!
I am in love with the green ones too. So I enjoy you pictures very much.
Lina.
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Hagen,
:o ::) :o ::) :o ::)Your snowdrops are from another world!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o.I think you have by far, The greatest snowdrops in the world.Thankyou for showing them too us all. :o ::) :o
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Thank you all but anyone can win a gold medal over here ;D
I am lucky Hagen lives in germany! ;D
Man, :o Hagen these look wonderfull :o
Are the Calebasse gracilis/elwesii hybrid?
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Looks like the snowdropseason started in the ‘Far East’ and how !!!
Today the first sunny day of the year and the bees were dancing and singing on and around the crocuses and snowdrops.
. ‘Selina Cords’
. ‘Blonde Inge’
. ‘Angelique’
. ‘David Shackleton’
. ‘Gloria’
. Angelina’
With thanks to the five ladys and the gentleman !
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Part 2
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A few more Davy.
Also the next generation: CALEBASSE
Fabulous, fabulous, fabulous. Wonderful shape.
The others are wonderful too but this one is special.
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Absolutely stunning, Hagen, as every year when you show your latest achievements in the world of snowdrops.
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'Calebasse' looks more like snow-baubles than snow-drops or snow-bells.
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Amazing looking thing!
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Wow Hagen so many wonderful plants :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o
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Yes they are all beautiful snowdrops.
So many to look forward to seeing in the flesh & maybe growing........eventually. :)
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Congratulations on the gold Gerard.
And thank you Freddy and Hagen for showing us some lovely snowdrops.
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ОООООО!!!! :o :o :o
Gorgeous snowdrops, great photos!
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Just incredible Hagen!!Every single one is incredible.
I completly agree. :o
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Oh my word, fantastic drops!!! :o :o :P :P
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Can anyone give any information on the provenance of these 'drops?
Galanthus 'North Grange' - which I'm told is a tall nivalis- but where from?
and G. 'Balham' ( or Baltham?) ???
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Might the second one be Baylham, which got a mention here a couple of years ago? http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=1498.15 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=1498.15)
Baylham is a village near me - they have an excellent farm park that I used to take my sons to regularly.
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Hi Maggie one sold recently on ebay not much info but hope it helps. copied and pasted from ebay Rarely offered, Galanthus 'Baylham' is a lovely neat hybrid double snowdrop. A vigerous garden plant increasing well in the garden. You are bidding on a single flowering size bulb which I will post freshly lifted in the gree.
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'Calebasse' looks more like snow-baubles than snow-drops or snow-bells.
True enough, it certainly doesn't look like any kielbasa I've seen.
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Lost Baylham twice, my notes say nivalis x plicatus but too long gone to recall if that was possibly correct.
johnw
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Gail and Cheryl, John, thanks again.... Brian has helped me with this : " 'Baylham' a hybrid double found on the side of the road in Baylham Suffolk by Barrie Carson-Taylor.
Forumists to the rescue again!
North Grange is proving elusive , though.
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This looks like Lord Monstictus but came to me as Fieldgate Tiffany. Can someone post a photo of F. Tiffany
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I'll say what everyone is saying - Hagen that's an unbelievable variety of snowdrops
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Thank you to all lovers of "my" galanthus.
But I have also only a collection like a lot of you.
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Mark, here is FIELDGATE TIFFANY.
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I'll take note of the information found on 'North Grange' and 'Baylham'. The snowdrop that is labeled 'Batlham' could be a nivalis x plicatus, it has double flower with 12 regular inner petals and a strong single green marking but it seems to be smaller then the pictures of 'Baylham' I found. Anyway many thanks to all of you for the kind help offered,
Beatrice
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To me Fieldgate Tiffany isn't exciting
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Is it just here or are snowdrops carrying on a lot later this year? They still look glorious in the garden here and yet were not looking bad at the beginning of February. Following John and Alan's visit to our garden I have new x-ray vision and am looking more closely in the garden - a few good forms we have I have posted on the AGS website and we will aim to bulk them up and see how they do in the garden.
These are four nice things flowering now; G. elwesii 'Ransom's Dwarf' - I like this very much, nice and clean-cut; G. x allenii (has or is this cross been repeated?), I think this may have contributed pollen to a nice 'Globular seedling' that has appeared near to it; 'The Linns', very good upright and sturdy habit; and G. reginae-olgae subsp. vernalis Kenneth Beckett form - this is the dinkiest and most delightful little plant only a couple of inches high, love it!
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Is it just here or are snowdrops carrying on a lot later this year?
Hard to comment on that from Aberdeen, Tim since our 'drops are just getting going! We would certainly be pleased if the season does prove to be a long one across the country.
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selection from last year gracilis/elwesii hybrid with 2 scapes :o
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Is it just here or are snowdrops carrying on a lot later this year?
It certainly seems a bit topsy turvey this year Tim. But my season usually goes on until mid to late March.
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Just getting used to my new camera. Here is a beautiful introduction from Mike and Anne Broadhurst - Galanthus 'Pearl Drops', I admired it in their garden and was pleased to have it as a swap from them last Autumn. I'm even more pleased now it is in flower ;D
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The nice warm weather has certainly brought things on so the camera had to come out yesterday.
1. Galanthus 'Fatty Puff'
2. Galanthus 'Alan Clark'
3. Galanthus Hõbevalge
4. Galanthus 'Muku'
5. Galanthus 'Muku'
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Some more from yesterday.
1. Galanthus 'Ecusson d'Or'
2. Galanthus 'Hocus Pocus'
3. TT 09/9
4. Galanthus 'Blithe Spirit'
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And finally.
1. Galanthus nivalis 'Olive'
2. TT 09/1
3. Galanthus 'Warley Belles'
4. Galanthus 'Warley Belles'
5. TT 09/10
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Well you can see why I leave it to David to do the 'portraits'! Meanwhile, amongst the garden debris (that will make Cliff smile) I'm still not used to the camera. Here is one for Hagen, 'Hugh Mackenzie' the sole flower, the other being a tasty snack for a pheasant - you wait 'til I catch him! 'Josie' is very vigorous, I took four off it last year and it looks no different, and lastly 'Swanton' I must go back to the manual online and get my act together as these could be so much better!
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'Hugh Mackenzie' - just so beautiful. 8)
You have overtaken me now Brian. Where I was a few weeks ahead of you at the beginning of the season you are now a week or so ahead of me at the end of the season. Hugh is still on it's way up before dropping.
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Super rounded tepals on 'Josie'! But the last snowdrop 'Swanton' - surely this has to be renamed 'Lightbulb', or is there already one? In which case 'Edison'?
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Well it's certainly a funny season John.
I think there is already a 'Lightbulb' Tim, Swanton is named for a village in Norfolk and has been around for a few years. 'Josie' is a sweetie, I can't believe how well it does, I must have it in just the right spot - sheer happenchance. ;D
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Nice ones David & Brian! Always new ones to whet the appetite especially those yellows.
Good to see Blithe Spirit, mine were late risers last year and that caused more than a bit of panic.
johnw - +4c & overcast
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2. Galanthus 'Alan Clark'
Named for the Conservative politician?
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Me and friend found this lovely plicate today,its has a huge ballon shaped flower on a short scape and ground hugging foliage,the plants are more to the rear as there are some seedlings of normal shape to the front.I love it.
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF2077_zps19bec992.jpg)
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Lovely plicatus Davey and a good number of bulbs to start ;D
Mostly I have to start with one ::)
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Brian, Hugh is fine, isn`t it.
Your pics are better than the pics of David.
He gave to much sun to the flowers. To much kontast between flowers and background.
I had the same problem today also.
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Lovely plicatus Davey and a good number of bulbs to start ;D
Mostly I have to start with one ::)
Thank you Hagen :)
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A few galanthus in the evening sun
At first ECUSSON D'OR First time a perfect flower. :D
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Here is a white flower.
Plant is waiting for the name
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QUADRIGA has always four outers. It is stable.
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And this one was the best today. Please note the fine blur basal mark.
I hope I can find the right name. :D
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Here is a white flower.
Plant is waiting for the name
For my eyes that is a perfect snowdrop, Hagen. All white and a good shape.
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Thank you Maggi, so I have to find the right name ??? :)
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Galanthus 'Margaret'?
;D ;D
Lina.
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And this one was the best today. Please note the fine blur basal mark.
I hope I can find the right name. :D
As always Hagen stunning,can i ask do you breed or are these all finds?
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Galanthus 'Margaret'?
;D ;D
Lina.
That would only be a good name for a little fat flower, Lina
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Gail and Cheryl, John, thanks again.... Brian has helped me with this : " 'Baylham' a hybrid double found on the side of the road in Baylham Suffolk by Barrie Carson-Taylor.
Forumists to the rescue again!
North Grange is proving elusive , though.
Maggi.Do you mean BARRIE CARSON-TURNER? ;D
I just love Galanthus.Brian,David and Hagen,Keep the pictures coming. ;) ;)
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Maggi.Do you mean BARRIE CARSON-TURNER? ;D
Do I, Steve ? I have no idea- just repeating what I was told ;D
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I Think you do,Maggie ;D ;
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I Think you do,Maggie ;D ;
I'll take your word for it , Steve- I thought B. Carson-Turner is a musical arranger...... what do I know?
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;D ;D ;D
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BARRIE CARSON-TURNER?
This gentleman seems to be responsible for a number of excellent snowdrop introductions and yet I have never knowingly seen him. Last year he was selling snowdrops on ebay but I have not noticed any from him this year. So who is he and where does he crop up?
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Alan,He moved house last year,so he may not have any spare drops to auction.
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I'll take your word for it , Steve- I thought B. Carson-Turner is a musical arranger...... what do I know?
Of course there is no law that says he cannot be a finder of 'drops AND a musical arranger.......... ::) :-\
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Do I, Steve ? I have no idea- just repeating what I was told ;D
Whoops sorry Maggi, just proves I can't multi-task ;D
Super plicatus Davey, an excellent shape. Lovely to have a good Ecusson d'Or Hagen to contrast with all your virescents :D
I think he is a musical arranger John F will know.
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;D.
He told me he was a music teacher.
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Whoops sorry Maggi, just proves I can't multi-task ;D
I think he is a musical arranger John F will know.
No worries Brian- it's still Forumists to the rescue, with Steve, isn't it ? ;D
Such fun that he is the same guy! http://www.randomhouse.com/features/livingmusic/author/ (http://www.randomhouse.com/features/livingmusic/author/)
Anthony Derby bought 'Baylham' from him a few years ago - even I was taken by the neatness of the flower.
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Named for the Conservative politician?
Or the Rhododendron hunter....
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Or the Rhododendron hunter....
or the Dire Straits keyboard player ???
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Music and flowers.I'm not sure which i perfer? ???
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Music and flowers.I'm not sure which i perfer? ???
You can have both, surely? And you've got a spaniel too-your joy must be complete......
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Sorry,Too much wine.(note to self,don't go on forums, while drinking) :D :P :-[
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Alan Clark:
A taller and more strongly growing form of the yellow Northumberland Snowdrop which arose in the garden of the eponymous gardener, as a variant of the 'normal form', which in turn he received from a garden '20 miles from Alnwick' many years before.
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Thanks, Brian. I was just thinking that we already have 'Alan Clark' and 'Bill Clark', so perhaps we should carry on through the alphabet with the next to be named, say, 'Chris Clark' then 'Dave Clark' etc.
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Thanks, Brian. I was just thinking that we already have 'Alan Clark' and 'Bill Clark', so perhaps we should carry on through the alphabet with the next to be named, say, 'Chris Clark' then 'Dave Clark' etc.
;D ;) ;D
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For my eyes that is a perfect snowdrop, Hagen. All white and a good shape.
I'm with you there Maggi, perfectly exquisite.
johnw
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And this one was the best today. Please note the fine blur basal mark.
I hope I can find the right name. :D
'Spargel Face' ;) Tis almost the season.
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Hello friend, good ideas to the names. I will sleep one night about the ideas..... ;)
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Thanks, Brian. I was just thinking that we already have 'Alan Clark' and 'Bill Clark', so perhaps we should carry on through the alphabet with the next to be named, say, 'Chris Clark' then 'Dave Clark' etc.
Perhaps we could have the Dave Clarke Five to make us Glad All Over.
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This gentleman seems to be responsible for a number of excellent snowdrop introductions and yet I have never knowingly seen him. Last year he was selling snowdrops on ebay but I have not noticed any from him this year. So who is he and where does he crop up?
Barrie was at the Southwold Gala.
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A taller and more strongly growing form of the yellow Northumberland Snowdrop which arose in the garden of the eponymous gardener, as a variant of the 'normal form', which in turn he received from a garden '20 miles from Alnwick' many years before.
Is it a coincidence that Belford (where Spindlestone Surprise came from) is 16 miles from Alnwick? ::)
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......... then 'Dave Clark' etc.
Would there need to be five of those ???
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A taller and more strongly growing form of the yellow Northumberland Snowdrop which arose in the garden of the eponymous gardener, as a variant of the 'normal form', which in turn he received from a garden '20 miles from Alnwick' many years before.
Is it a coincidence that Belford (where Spindlestone Surprise came from) is 16 miles from Alnwick? ::)
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/diaries/Northumberland/+February+/458/ (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/diaries/Northumberland/+February+/458/)
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http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/diaries/Northumberland/+February+/458/ (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/diaries/Northumberland/+February+/458/)
I enjoyed that article David, thank you for the link. But as a frequent visitor to the area where Wendy's Gold was found, I think it unlikely that it resulted from cross-pollination with a yellow nivalis. If it did, that nivalis is long gone or some way away.
Does anyone know how far bees travel when gathering nectar and therefore how far away from each other two cross-pollinated plants might be?
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According to my neighbour, who keeps bees, up to 4 miles. They can travel further if need be, I think they've been studied and found to travel as much as 7 miles from the hive but this amount of travel cannot be sustained. I guess in early spring when flowers are at a premium long distances may be needed.
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Would there need to be five of those ???
Google it David.
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I know its only "Bits and Pieces" of information
Xanadu
Straying off subject somewhat......................but its an age thing
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This a little ball of a double nivalis and a find from last year
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF2103_zps65c5d3b6.jpg)
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF2104_zps380d5570.jpg)
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Some impressions from my garden,
Anglesey Abbey, Kencott Kali, Mrs Wrightson' Double, Hunton Giant, The Pearl
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This a little ball of a double nivalis and a find from last year
:o :o :oDavey,I Really like your 'Ball double'.You have a very good eye. : ;D
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:o :o :oDavey,I Really like your 'Ball double'.You have a very good eye. : ;D
;D ;D ;D
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Another nice one Davey. 8)
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This a little ball of a double nivalis and a find from last year
Just to be contrary, although the macro images look great, I wonder if it is too small to make for an attractive snowdrop in the garden? After all, it's smaller than a thumbnail.
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Just to be contrary, although the macro images look great, I wonder if it is too small to make for an attractive snowdrop in the garden? After all, it's smaller than a thumbnail.
I think maybe in a garden possibly Alan it is a tiny thing,but my plan was to grow it in a clay pot so i can get it out the plunge and admire it.I dont mind small,size has never been a issue for me !!!! ;D
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Just to be contrary, although the macro images look great, I wonder if it is too small to make for an attractive snowdrop in the garden? After all, it's smaller than a thumbnail.
Lots of people wanting tiny 'drops that might grow in a trough to be in scale with other "trough" plants so I'd expect a little chap like that to be a big success.
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Lots of people wanting tiny 'drops that might grow in a trough to be in scale with other "trough" plants so I'd expect a little chap like that to be a big success.
I couldn't agree more Maggie.
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Lots of people wanting tiny 'drops that might grow in a trough to be in scale with other "trough" plants so I'd expect a little chap like that to be a big success.
Quite so Maggi. As you know I grow different forms of Asplenium scolopendrium - many of these are higher than 1 ft tall and make a real statement in the borders. But there are also some rare selected forms that are a few inches high and I grow these in a raised alpine bed with lots of other small stuff to complement each other.
And I am still chuckling out loud to Davey's comment! LOL
I dont mind small,size has never been a issue for me !!!! ;D
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Lots of people wanting tiny 'drops that might grow in a trough to be in scale with other "trough" plants so I'd expect a little chap like that to be a big success.
Already on it. One of the things I'm doing is breeding for and selecting nice dinky little snowdrops that will be perfect for growing in pots and troughs. I'm convinced that snowdrops can make excellent pot plants, we just need more appropriately sized ones for pot culture, with a range of shapes and markings and, preferably, good scent.
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My Mini Me, 10cm, looks great in a trough. Some are in a pot in the green house so I can find them when they get chipped.
My tiny, 10cm, unnamed green tipped nivalis is a bit lost in the garden
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This is my tiny green tipped nivalis. I'll measure the flowers later. This is a tiny plant with tiny flowers also
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The season here is coming to an end. :'(
The next 14 days are likely to see my final snowdrops pictures for this season - here are a few pics from my little patch today.
1 - 'Priscilla Bacon'.
2 - 'Pear Drop' (wonderful scent).
3 - This drop was purchased from the 'Snowdrop Co' in 2008 as Fieldgate Superb (Which it isn't.... - but I kept it as it is a well performing yellow).
4 - 'Amy Doncaster'
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A few more from the garden today.
1 - 'Fanny'
2 - Hagen's beautiful memorial snowdrop - 'Till Sonnenschein'
3 - Many will know that I have a soft spot for 'spikies' - and this is one that was given to me by a kind lurker: 'Mrs Tiggywinkle' (still only young here so, for future reference, might not be true to form).
4 - One of Davey's early finds that he named after his partner: 'Samantha'
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And the last few from today before I sign off.
1 - Another of the wonderful German drops making it's way to the UK - 'Federkleid'
2 - Following on from Hagen's pictures. The cream colour tint on the outer petals has faded on this flower - but 'I' can still notice the pastel sheen on the inners. 'Das Gelbe Von El'
3 - Looking even nicer every time I glance upon it. 'Angelina'
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WOW JOHN STUNNING MY FRIEND :o :o :o :o :o.I love them all,finally Samantha is flowering yay
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What a great collection!
And they are all very special ones.
Angelina is a beauty.
Lina.
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John you must have a brilliant collection
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A lovely selection of galanthus today John, many thanks for all the effort you put in to sharing them with us.
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A lovely selection of galanthus today John, many thanks for all the effort you put in to sharing them with us.
Seconded on all counts.
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Mark,I agree with the others.Tiny little drops have a there own charm.
John, Some superb plants,Photographed to perfection.I think the photo of 'Amy Doncaster'is perfect,Showing every aspect of the flowers in perfect detail. ;) :-*
Please post more pictures......................Nothing but rain here all day and everything is face down in the mud(not me,not on the sauce today) ;D ;D
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John, some German Gems are in best hands ;).
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Received two snowdrops by post to day from North Green Snowdrops. They had the best developed root systems I have ever found on acquired snowdrops. So take a bow John Morley.
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A little heartbreaker,
it is no virescens but funny and garden worth!
It is not ANGELINA but is "our" LITTLE ANGIE.
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HONIGMUND - lips full of honey.
The color of the apical mark changes from green to yellow brown(honey).
You can see three different moments of coloring. A big and fine plant.
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Little Angie is a beauty
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Here is a fine poculiforme: HOLO-GLOB
We never saw a green mark, all time perfect.
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Two lovely but very different sisters:
HOLO-GRAMM and HOLO-GLOB
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Two lovely but very different sisters:
HOLO-GRAMM and HOLO-GLOB
Perfect!!
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a normal, but full white plant. I don`t know if it is worth to name.
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In my eyes the ScottishCHATTON is a very good addition to the yellows. The color is bright yellow, top!!
Thank you Ian. I love this plant
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The drops of ILSE BILSE.
This year a perfect flower season.
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Hagen
I Haven't recovered from seeing your last photo's :o :o :o
Those are amazing!!!!
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Very nice photos, John and Hagen.
Hagen, those pocs are lovely.
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Stunning 'Ilse Bilse' Hagen, as you know I love to see the inners through the claws. All your snowdrops are looking good. Thank you for keeping our snowdrop season so exciting ;D
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Fabulous selection, as ever, Hagen.
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For those into the green. G Cowhouse Green
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Hagen, your snowdrops are magnificent. I can look at them again and again.
I am not very fond of the yellows, but your G. 'Das Gelbe vom Ei' is very nice.
Lina.
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Those are just astonishing and exciting plants, especially for someone like me who is still only beginning to take in the full variation there is in snowdrops. Are these the result of controlled breeding Hagen, or from seedlings occurring within the garden (though the two are not so very different)? The poculiforms must be every bit the equal of E. A. Bowles. Very lovely.
These few pictures are a great contrast but are interesting because they derive from wild collections made by Martyn Rix. They are growing in Elizabeth Cairn's garden near Maidstone, and show what an incredible foliage plant elwesii can be; I know that is nothing new but I've never seen forms with such broad and soft arching leaves. The last picture is a bit of a mystery - is it likely to be a form of reginae-olgae subsp. vernalis? Those intensely glaucous leaves really stand out.
Elizabeth is also collecting many of the more striking of named varieties, but the garden is very well suited to snowdrops, especially those that like to be really dried out in summer, and these big clumps of elwesii are quite a sight.
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The last picture is a bit of a mystery - is it likely to be a form of reginae-olgae subsp. vernalis? Those intensely glaucous leaves really stand out.
Do reginae-olgae have more of a stripe, I would guess a good nivalis, hopefully an expert will give an opinion.
I like Hagens exciting new plants, but it is also good to see established clumps in the garden.
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Tim and Rob,
I would like new plants in such good established clumps, really ;).
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Can anyone tell me what snow drop this is?
Thank you
Rimmer de Vries
SE Michigan
USA
Zone 5
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Hello
is this Galanthus woronowii?
is has yellow green leaves, not the typical gray green leaves.
Thank you
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This is one of the many forms i have bought as "Sam Arnott" can anyone tell me if this is correct or its real name?
Thanks
Rimmer
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As far as I can tell, the first snowdrop is an elwesii. Is it supposed to be a named cultivar?
The second is probably woronowii. Ikariae looks rather similar but is distinguishable by marks on the leaves and it's not as common.
"Sam Arnott" is a well-established "classic" snowdrop but not terribly easy to recognise from a photograph (well not easily recognised by me, anyway).
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The last picture is a bit of a mystery - is it likely to be a form of reginae-olgae subsp. vernalis? Those intensely glaucous leaves really stand out.
I too am a great fan of the foliage of some of the drops, to my mind they really complement the flowers. In fact the foliage of woronowii probably is more significant than the flowers.
The last picture looks very much like reginae-olgae subsp. vernalis - at least what I grow as this. It does have a very interesting sheen on the leaves, particular noticeable on overcast days, it is difficult to describe (and impossible to photograph) but it appears to be almost reflective. It also reminds me of pewter - not quite sure why??? ??? ???. Again the leaves are quite a feature in some (low) light levels.
Chris
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I too am a great fan of the foliage of some of the drops, to my mind they really complement the flowers. In fact the foliage of woronowii probably is more significant than the flowers.
The last picture looks very much like reginae-olgae subsp. vernalis - at least what I grow as this. It does have a very interesting sheen on the leaves, particular noticeable on overcast days, it is difficult to describe (and impossible to photograph) but it appears to be almost reflective. It also reminds me of pewter - not quite sure why??? ??? ???. Again the leaves are quite a feature in some (low) light levels.
Chris
I have a very blue leaved form of G.reg-olga ssp vernalis seed collected in gargano Italy
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF1909_zps063c2761.jpg)
Take no notice of the lake garda
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Rimmer - your first snowdrop looks like G. elwesii 'Ransom's Dwarf' to me - see picture below.
Davey - that really has stunning foliage! There are so many features of these plants that appeal, and the variation gets more and more interesting, as is found in Cyclamen and so many other plants in the wild.
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Some really beautiful pictures have been posted recently.
John - love that one with a hint of cream and Hagen's memorial snowdrop is very beautiful. Really like them all but cannot remember the German names ;)
Mark - the tiny ones are very sweet especially the green tipped one - would look great at the front of raised beds and in alpine troughs.
Hagen - cannot remember the names of yours but they are all very unusual. I like the one that changes from green thru to yellow - I wonder if any other snowdrops do that? I know some start out with a hint of pink/orange that then fades ie. Jonathan but I never knew the actual markings could change colour. All very, very nice.
Tim - gorgeous clumps in your friends garden and what a massive bed in the first image. Your huge pot of Ransom's Dwarf is impressive - is it very dwarf?
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Rimmer - your first snowdrop looks like G. elwesii 'Ransom's Dwarf' to me - see picture below.
Thank. You Tim
Today all the snow melted, up to 7 inches worth, and the snow drops popped out all over.
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Thank. You Tim
Today all the snow melted, up to 7 inches worth, and the snow drops popped out all over.
Rimmer, I should point out that it is only possibly 'Ransoms Dwarf' if you know you once bought and grew 'Ransoms Dwarf' but lost the label. I have to say this because from time to time people ask here for the name of a snowdrop they found in their garden and of course, unless there is a very strong reason to believe it is a named cultivar, it is just an example of the species (or a hybrid) without a name.
For that matter sometimes people post pictures of large well-established clumps of a named snowdrop where it is apparent that not all the snowdrops look the same. This is likely to be because the snowdrops have set seed so the clump now contains a mixture of the original named cultivar and unnamed seedlings. This is possibly the means by which you have managed to acquire different snowdrop forms all named "Sam Arnott".
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Dear all, thanks for all the fantastic pictures and I agree that the leavees of many snowdrops are most important as they compliment the flowers I hope the new book will show some leaves flowers by themselves ar great but the leaf makes them better. Our snowdrop season will continue for a good while yet as the weather is Siberian G Comet, G Castle Tiny G virescens G Lady Elphinstone are just starting to flower with many others at their peak, I post a few pictures all G. plicatus most from The Castle. cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Hello Ian,
you show a bouquet full of new CASTLE galanthus.
Fine!
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Rimmer, I should point out that it is only possibly 'Ransoms Dwarf' if you know you once bought and grew 'Ransoms Dwarf' but lost the label.
Thanks Alan
I have never bought 'Ransoms Dwarf' this large narrow ones came as a pass along plant selected by me for the long flowers. So no name, but it is quite different in my garden.
The supposed G. woronowii also came as "Sam Arnott" but these have the yellow green leaf colour and the outer leaf wrapped around the inner leaf. That is why I ask ID
Rimmer
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Rimmer, I frequently find Galanthus woronowii for sale in Garden Centres labelled as Galanthus nivalis but calling it "Sam Arnott" is some stretch of the imagination.
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Congratulations on the gold medal Gerald! :)
Does anyone know Galanthus elwesii 'Marielle'? I bought one on impulse at Harlow on Saturday. It is described by the sellers The plantsman's preference in Diss as "A new selection found in an old garden near Ipswich by Bernard Tickner and Ivan Dickings. Grey foliage and large simple white flowers but the whole plant is big, very big! Up to 35cm when established."
The plant I bought is not big at all but as a pot-grown bulb that is not unexpected. The leaves fold back at the edges as though there is some plicatus in the mix rather than pure elwesii. I bought it as I live near Ipswich and it's nice to have local plants.
Hi, just found this on here and joined up to give a little more information. I'm the one who sold it to you!
I first saw it growing as established clumps in Bernard's garden, Fullers Mill at West Stow near Bury St Edmunds where in late February it came almost to my knees (I'm 6'2"!) and with it's grey elwesii foliage I was suitably impressed. I'm not a real snowdrop fan but commented on it to Bernard and he asked if I'd be willing to distribute it as it had been retrieved from a garden that had been rather abandoned but was likely to be cleared drastically. I believe that Marielle is the name of the garden owner. I was duly given a bucketful the next season and have sold small numbers over the last 3 years or so.
Joe Sharman has had it for a couple of years and said it's so big and vigorous it's almost a weed! I have a couple of non-flowering pots (probably 2 reasonable bulbs in each) left this year if anyone wants to swap for another elwesii?
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Welcome, Tim!
It's good to hear more about the history of 'Marielle' - and a real delight to hear of a snowdrop that seems to be more than robust! ;)
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Welcome to the forum Tim and many thanks for going to the trouble to reply. I love to hear the background stories to the plants I grow. I am really looking forward to having a knee-high snowdrop (and as I'm only 5'2" that may be waist-high!).
I've done some pollen dabbling between Marielle and Wendy's Gold, hoping for a strain of yellow giants at some stage in the future.
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Tim - Welcome to the Forum!
Any chance you could send some pollen of this brute to Martin Baxendale who is breeding for good-doers? Always a chance the pollen is getting past peak. Sounds like a must for his project. I'm sure he'll chime in any moment.
johnw
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I'll take note of the information found on 'North Grange' and 'Baylham'. The snowdrop that is labeled 'Batlham' could be a nivalis x plicatus, it has double flower with 12 regular inner petals and a strong single green marking but it seems to be smaller then the pictures of 'Baylham' I found. Anyway many thanks to all of you for the kind help offered,
Beatrice
Beatrice, I have some more information about Galanthus 'North Grange' - I have learned that this snowdrop arose in the former garden of SRGC members Lyn and Ronald Bezzant some years ago.... they tell me :
"Galanthus 'North Grange' originated as a chance seedling in our Bearsden garden about 1984.
It comes true from seed, and so is good for naturalizing.
It does well in acid damp soil. "
They are pleased to learn that their 'drop is being appreciated!
Hope this is what you hoped to learn!
Maggi
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Still not quite got the hang of picture posting. But if it works, here's some shameless postcard aesthetics of a patch of bog standard nivalis. Garden savaged this morning, Frit. raddeana laid low, and even hellebores flattened, so I felt a bit of cliche editing was in order to try and cheer myself up.
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Today I visited a natural site of Galanthus to look for variations - not much found - just a clump with four petals. Must be checked if it is stable....
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A few miles away and a little up the hills I looked for Leucoum and found a site with quite a lot of double flowers an a scape
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A few from the garden today in between the snow flurries
Anne of Geierstein (thanks Maggi)
Dodo Norton
Natalie Garton
Priscilla Bacon
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Chas, I think your Anne of Gierstein should be Anne of Geierstein
....... http://www.walterscott.lib.ed.ac.uk/works/novels/geierstein.html (http://www.walterscott.lib.ed.ac.uk/works/novels/geierstein.html) :)
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Not much time for taking photos of my seedlings this season due to work pressures, but I had to grab a quick snap of this one as I like the markings so much. I love the crisp sinus mark and the way the basal mark is made up of very regular lines rather than a blotch.
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Hmmm. Tried to resize that photo to make it larger so the mark is easier to see but that seems to be its maximum size. I guess it's clear enough.
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Have to excuse me have been up for over 20 hours now
Two more
Trymlet
Seagull
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You burning the "bulb" at both ends again, Chas?
I know that feeling- but it's not good for you!
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Maggi,its hard to come home and go to bed when the sun is shining.......................I need to be out in the garden...............sleep can wait ;D 5 nights off now ;D ;D ;D
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It's a nice one, Martin. Is it one of your vigorous selections?
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It's a nice one, Martin. Is it one of your vigorous selections?
It seems strong, and it's a big flower, but I'm still bulking it up so it's a bit early to say just how vigorous it'll be, but hopefully it should have some hybrid vigour.
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Thanks for the welcome folks. The spare Marielle for this year are now gone.
Steve T - I can't reply to your email as your email provider says I have a bad reputation ;D Can you try a Pm on here or phoning me please.
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I will ;D
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Cracking nursery you have there Tim, one of my "musts to visit" when I'm in Norfolk.
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Cracking nursery you have there Tim, one of my "musts to visit" when I'm in Norfolk.
Goodness David, you mean you haven't been? I ration myself as Tim knows I can't come away with just one plant ;D
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Sorry Brian I didn't word that clearly. We've been to PP every time we've been in Norfolk and I haven't failed to buy anything yet!
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Well I did think it seemed odd David!
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Good afternoon all! Yet a bit snowdrops are from Crimea
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39a8/oZBsNdRvVWA.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39a8/oZBsNdRvVWA.jpg)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39b1/4-e5JV1c_Lk.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39b1/4-e5JV1c_Lk.jpg)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39ba/ZkuaTCyYsN4.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39ba/ZkuaTCyYsN4.jpg)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39cc/-X5DNU3S2Ow.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39cc/-X5DNU3S2Ow.jpg) ;D
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39d5/1HoizelFBRU.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39d5/1HoizelFBRU.jpg)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39e4/3P7909R3kIs.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39e4/3P7909R3kIs.jpg)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39ed/XdyP0cnMYhE.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39ed/XdyP0cnMYhE.jpg) a standard small box of matches is 5 sm
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39f6/n6nKDxXkG1k.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39f6/n6nKDxXkG1k.jpg)
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http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39fe/v-qJ-zgUBf8.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39fe/v-qJ-zgUBf8.jpg) :o
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a07/PuCnrfkRir4.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a07/PuCnrfkRir4.jpg)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a10/BpGppITYuFg.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a10/BpGppITYuFg.jpg)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a34/nwplTZWGwHo.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a34/nwplTZWGwHo.jpg)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a58/urnaY2lbUo0.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a58/urnaY2lbUo0.jpg) ::)
in the distance one meter these grew from pre-going...
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a61/bM3TkGMmG_c.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a61/bM3TkGMmG_c.jpg)
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http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39a8/oZBsNdRvVWA.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39a8/oZBsNdRvVWA.jpg)
An interesting clump Ru :)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a58/urnaY2lbUo0.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a58/urnaY2lbUo0.jpg)
Even more interesting.
Also fascinating to see the chimera, John Finch and I have seen something similar, where hlaf the leaf was yellow, but also half the inner marks so there was one green mark, one yellow mark and one where half was yellow and half green. :o
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I loose my voice, Ru.
Top!!!
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WOW what a fantastic set of pictures many thanks for showing them please can we come with you on the next visit, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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The one I really love is http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a58/urnaY2lbUo0.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a58/urnaY2lbUo0.jpg)
If it were me, and given the permission of the law and the landowner, I would have removed one or two bulbs for cultivation leaving the rest to produce exotic seedlings.
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I agree with Alan, this one is the very best. A wonderful find, Ru!
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Hello
I am sorry , i have only the natural form of galanthus nivalis in my garden but the photo is nice ..(i hope so)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-AYzfYsAYjao/UT4zbGSS_CI/AAAAAAAAABU/j7VR2JQBej0/s640/IMGP1814-b.jpg)
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Hope you managed to get some sleep eventually Chas! Nice selection of snowdrop pictures.
Keep up the good work Martin - it is always nice to see your results each year.
Ru. Wow! My favourite. 8)
(http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/39fe/v-qJ-zgUBf8.jpg)
And I have to agree with others - wow two too. :)
(http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3a58/urnaY2lbUo0.jpg)
A lovely picture indeed Botanica.
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Wow Ru :o :o :o
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Ru. Wow! My favourite. 8)
Wish I'd put money on that ;D
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Very ,very nice Ru ;D
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Hello
I am sorry , i have only the natural form of galanthus nivalis in my garden but the photo is nice ..(i hope so)
An elegant simplicity !
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Many thanks all for good reviews about my pictures and finds!!
Galanthus plicatus. Crimea. Places of search of interesting forms (page 3 and 17 this theme).
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3aee/zV5GpHAgDl4.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3aee/zV5GpHAgDl4.jpg)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3adc/ST4DEBNe-Mc.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3adc/ST4DEBNe-Mc.jpg)
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http://cs319726.vk.me/v319726301/6c36/wxF1AX_NXm0.jpg (http://cs319726.vk.me/v319726301/6c36/wxF1AX_NXm0.jpg)
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http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3aca/MQ8Y9oWY-Uc.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3aca/MQ8Y9oWY-Uc.jpg)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3af7/GvwtW9AV1C4.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3af7/GvwtW9AV1C4.jpg)
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http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3b00/jnV6cuzMaow.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3b00/jnV6cuzMaow.jpg)
http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3b09/Uce-XCbDw6Q.jpg (http://cs319727.vk.me/v319727301/3b09/Uce-XCbDw6Q.jpg)
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Just magic!
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Wonderful photographs, Ru, getting the atmosphere of their natural habitat!
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Galanthus 'Fred's Giant' at home in the Cruickshank Botanic Garden, Aberdeen. The snowdrop is past its best and the light was poor (5.30pm on a dull day).
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The drops of ILSE BILSE.
This year a perfect flower season.
Ilse Bilse
keiner will se
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Hagen, I love your fotos, I love your snowdrops ::) Greetings from Berlin with snow and cold
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Great pictures again and the ones from the woodland very special it looks like very large Beech trees with lots of leafmold, I have planted many snowdrops from the Castle in a new location so we can take people to see them it is also a Beech woodland have often asked does the natural lime in Beech leafmold help the snowdrops? ours a very much better with this move. I psot a picture fro the garden today of G. plicatus with two heads did notice this last year and thought they would just be ordinary this year have 4 twin flowered bulbs also has another flower spike to come on each, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Oh, if Ru could show us this wonder world in natur.........
Irm, glad to meet you in this forum too. Now ILSE BILSE is out of her children shoes. I think she has a lot of lovers now.....
Ian, plant with some more flowers are always good. And it is stable!
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Now I have my first own yellow. His apical mark is not only a reversed V or U. It is a W. So the inner segments got a golden edge.
What a difficult German name: GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN ( a little snowdrop with gold edged inner segments).
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Oh, if Ru could show us this wonder world in natur.........
Irm, glad to meet you in this forum too. Now ILSE BILSE is out of her children shoes. I think she has a lot of lovers now.....
Ian, plant with some more flowers are always good. And it is stable!
... Are you ready to domestic extreme during a few days?
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Now I have my first own yellow.
A nice addition to the yellow snowdrops, Hagen, have you more yellows to come?
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What a difficult German name: GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN ( a little snowdrop with gold edged inner segments).
I will meditate on it daily.
GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN
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I will meditate on it daily.
GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN GOLDRANDRÖCKCHENGLÖCKCHEN
;D ;D ;D
I can not write the Ukrainian name of snowdrops.
1. Simply in your languages there is not a letter and sound of analogical slavonic "ы".
2. Semantic translation of this Ukrainian name not nearly pronouncing in decent society. ;D ;D ;D
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I've got a gracilis hybrid (bought from Wisley) in a pot. Two flowering stems have collapsed. The damage at the base doesn't seem to be slugs or my chicken. Would the alternating cold/not-so cold do that to them do you think?
Sorry pics are not in focus and I've run out of daylight to re-take.
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;D ;D ;D
I can not write the Ukrainian name of snowdrops.
1. Simply in your languages there is not a letter and sound of analogical slavonic "ы".
2. Semantic translation of this Ukrainian name not nearly pronouncing in decent society. ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D
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Is a form "wasp"?
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The damage at the base doesn't seem to be slugs or my chicken. Would the alternating cold/not-so cold do that to them do you think?
It looks a bit like slug (or snail) damage to me. In fact I hope so, because that's really quite a benign explanation. Snowdrops are generally very tolerant of warm spells or cold snaps.
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Thanks Alan. I couldn't see any slime but as you say the cold not usually a problem, I just wondered if gracilis was less tolerant.
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Ru you have found a fantastic variety of snowdrops.
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8) ::)
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8) ::)
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Ru found fantastic snowdrops!
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Ru found fantastic snowdrops!
agreed, Olga ;D :-*
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Ru
Amazing snowdrops in the wild thanks for showing these
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Galanthus elwesii - a prolific seeder. I had to dig up the centre of the clump in full flower last year because of botrytis I'll need to find somewhere to replant more of them soon ;D
Galanthus plicatus 'Warham Group' another great seeder and multiplier. Very late this year. Pic taken last Thursday.
Galanthus platyphyllus last Thursday and again today
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Still cold and damp here so had the camera out yesterday for what, I suspect, will be the last snowdrop session this season.
1. Galanthus Angelina
2 & 3. Galanthus Augenweide
4. Galanthus Kullaka
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Second group:
1 & 2. Galanthus Greenish
3 & 4. Galanthus Marlie Raphaal
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Final Group:
1. Galanthus Melanie Broughton
2 & 3. Unnamed galanthus
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David,excellent pics.
Is ANGELINA much bigger than AUGEWNWEIDE?
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Hagen, the difference in petal length is perhaps 2mm, but it is slightly taller too, however the biggest difference seems to be the foliage, 'Augenweide' is much more blue/green.
I should have asked David to say that 'Greenish', 'Augenweide' and 'Kullake' were from either forumists or lurkers, many thanks to you all.
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Thanks for kind words Hagen. Nice even light so much better than harsh contrast from sun. Also used a little reflected light from a piece of white card.
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Very nice snowdrops David. I missed these fine snowdrops when Hagen and I visitetd
your garden.
At the moment we have a brake in our snowdrop season, the snow is coming again very
heavy the whole day and most of them are hidden under the snow. Bad luck in West Germany.
Uli
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From yesterday when the sun was shining and it was a lot wamer then today at least 5 C ;D and no wind from the east.
Lots of elwesii selections from last year and a very small nivalis from 4 to 7 cm tall and a flower of 4 to 5mm :o and at last a nice drift of the S Arnott
Some of the selections are yellowish and give 4 by 4 petals.
2832 shows even green on the outerpetals bridge from the ovary to the outer.
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The rest,
The small nivalis is very small and hard to recognise as a snowdrop it looks more like gras.The plants are 4 to 7 cm and the flowers are not larger then 5 mm, perfect for a rockgarden! I do think this is the tiniest of all. Name will be Minnie the Moucher when its going to be registrated.
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Gerard - What is the tall whispy evergreen at the rear of photo 2826?
johnw
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Thats a secoia and it has grown 0,50 mtr per year so far :o
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So only 200 more years to go. You may have to move the house to the right. ;)
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Very special snowdrops you have. My ordinary Flore Pleno vary a lot. I do not like them all. But the display looks fine.
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Zuerst entscheidet der eigene Geschmack.
Alles Weitere findet sich. Auch bei Dir, Axel!
At first you decide for yourself,
what is fine or not.
All other thing come later.
PS. Mit Blütenstaub ist kaum noch was zu machen,
wenn Du nicht sagst was Du willst!
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Another walk. Crimea.
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Green forms
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Green forms. Continuation.
30wDSC_0664.jpg Sector chimera (60/30%)
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Green forms. Continuation.
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Sizes (King size :))
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Thank you for the panorama of your mountains.
Green is a fine color! Good flowers.
A king size plant, made for landscape ;)
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Thank you Hagen. I love midget forms more than giant :).
If will you allow, I will continue? :)
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Continuation
30wDSC_0659.jpg and 30wDSC_0660.jpg - wrenched edge
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Continuation
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Continuation
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AMAZING :o :o :o
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Thank you so much for sharing these with us Ru, there are some beautiful flower forms in the wild. Some real treats for us, and it is wonderful to see the habitat too.
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Ru, it is so nice to see the natural variation of Galanthus in habitat - every bit as good as what appears in gardens.
The opening panorama with the rain cloud moving over the land is so like Scotland.
Thanks for sharing.
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Thank you so much for posting these amazing photos Ru! I imagine those plants with variegated leaves being really popular with our Japanese friends.
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Ru, very good photos of remarkable plants - I like the ones which show the habitat as well. A very special place.
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Lovely photos Ru - thanks for sharing them. The variegated ones are interesting - I wonder if the variegation would be stable? Most of all I like the giant ones with the big flowers! Very nice.
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Thanks, Ru, for sharing this great trip with us.
I love to see the landscape too and also the habitat of the very nice snowdrops.
Lina.
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Today I opened my pots from winter cover because for next week weather forecast promisses that temperature will not drop below minus 10 C. Hope it really will be so, but snowdrops couldn't wait more. They bloomed below cover. Here
Galanthus transcaucasicus from Iran
Janis
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The snowdrop season here is also 3-4 weeks later than usual, because of the cold. snowdrops are at just about their best now, and for the first time ever I will have snowdrops looking their best in april!
Here is one of my favourites, Sam Arnott. I had to transplant this bulb, so took the oportunity to photograph it with flowers, leaves and bulb in the evening sun as a backlight :)
i am slowly feeling that i may also, afterall become a galanthophile when i see such beauty! and what an unforgettable honey scent too :)
Pontus
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One from today ventured into the tunnel and found Fiona McKenzie ready and waiting to open when it gets warmer...............................when
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One from today ventured into the tunnel and found Fiona McKenzie ready and waiting to open when it gets warmer...............................when
Have to applaud your optimism, Chas ;D
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The snowdrop season here is also 3-4 weeks later than usual, because of the cold. snowdrops are at just about their best now, and for the first time ever I will have snowdrops looking their best in april!
Our snowdrop season started early but we have had fridge-like temperatures since then and now heavy snow. If the snow stays until the weekend, as forecast, then we shall also have some nivalis still flowering in April when it melts!
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Hi, tell me, is it OK such deep green color of my Walrus this spring 2013???? :-X its pics from last years....
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Arthur, Brian Ellis, Ian Y, Gail, Anne, Kentish_lass, Lina, many thanks! I am high pleased, that pictures pleased you.
Snowdrops, taking pictures easily, them
(http://dimetris.com.ua/wiki/_detail/acari-vreditel:tenuipalpus_pacificus_4.jpg?id=%D1%84%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%89 (http://dimetris.com.ua/wiki/_detail/acari-vreditel:tenuipalpus_pacificus_4.jpg?id=%D1%84%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%89) ) to take pictures heavier :)
One from today ventured into the tunnel and found Fiona McKenzie ready and waiting to open when it gets warmer...............................when
Chic snowdrop!!!
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Hi, tell me, is it OK such deep green color of my Walrus this spring 2013???? :-X its pics from last years....
Walrus can be very variable Dimitri, but I haven't seen that wonderful green before, I would be hoping it does the same this year ;)
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Arthur, Brian Ellis, Ian Y, Gail, Anne, Kentish_lass, Lina, many thanks! I am high pleased, that pictures pleased you.
Snowdrops, taking pictures easily, them
(http://dimetris.com.ua/wiki/_detail/acari-vreditel:tenuipalpus_pacificus_4.jpg?id=%D1%84%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%89 (http://dimetris.com.ua/wiki/_detail/acari-vreditel:tenuipalpus_pacificus_4.jpg?id=%D1%84%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%89) ) to take pictures heavier :)
OUCH!!
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Hi, tell me, is it OK such deep green color of my Walrus this spring 2013???? :-X its pics from last years....
I think the Walrus met the Shugayster ;D
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I think the Walrus met the Shugayster ;D
Oh my goodness - I had erased from my mind the horrible Chugayster- now it all comes flooding back :-X :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=7109.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=7109.0)
To my eye these are horrible mutations, sick plants, both of them.
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I think the Walrus met the Shugayster ;D
Gerard! they both grow in quiet different garden corners and never met physically nor via air
Maggi! they both appeared de novo)))))))
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Dearest Dima, I afraid I do not care if they appeared miraculously from Heaven, borne by singing Angels - they are still horrible. ::)
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Miraculousest Maggi! I would treat this green Heaven present as a pure fatty individuum which is so avarice to absorb the sun energy that all its parts and organs transformed into the worktops. It's rather similar to some fatso eating at night in hugger-mugger, as for me!!! ;D ;) so, just mercifully spare them all!
in the meanwhile let me show some white treasures from my semi-spring or more like semi-winter garden in SE Ukraine last week-end.
G. koenenianus, Turkey
G. krasnovii, Turkey
G. lagodechianus, N. Caucasus, Russia
G. rizehensis, W. Transcaucasus, Russia
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G. panjutinii, W. Transcaucasus, Russia
G. trojanus, NW Turkey
G. nivalis, plain Ukraine
G. woronowii - a mini variant (flwr 1 cm long) from W. Transcaucasus, Russia
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Miraculousest Maggi! I would treat this green Heaven present as a pure fatty individuum which is so avarice to absorb the sun energy that all its parts and organs transformed into the worktops. It's rather similar to some fatso eating at night in hugger-mugger, as for me!!! ;D ;) so, just mercifully spare them all!
Being so very fat and greedy myself- I feel I should be more generous- but some things are a step too far ;D ;)
Your new garden offerings (- proper snowdrops!)are really pretty!
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Being so very fat and greedy myself- I feel I should be more generous- but some things are a step too far ;D ;)
Your new garden offerings (- proper snowdrops!)are really pretty!
it simply means we're kind and sincere people sometimes prone to bouts of light gluttony ;D ;D ;D
and more drops
G. fosteri, Turkey
G. ikariae, Ikaria, Greece
G. elwesii 'Zwanenburg'
G. koenenianus x fosteri from Wallises
G. nivalis, plain Ukraine
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Walrus can be very variable Dimitri, but I haven't seen that wonderful green before, I would be hoping it does the same this year ;)
Thanks, Brian! it's current spring photo of such green)))) we'll see the next year. But I could note it greenishes from year to year....... may be it's due to the abnormal very cold March of this year...... My green Walrus send a warm hello to Gerard Oud!! ;)
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Dimitri.Love the mini woronowii.Very shapely,Must be female. ;D
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Dimitri.Love the mini woronowii.Very shapely,Must be female. ;D
agreed, and its name would be "Passionsblume" !! :o as Deutsch naming is very popular in our forum at present! ;D
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No idea, what you mean Dima :o??? ;D
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(I apologise for any spelling errors - will check them tomorrow morning but rush off now but wanted to get the pics posted, I've recently been a bit bogged down with work - sorry).
Happily I have managed an hour in the garden that coincided with some sunshine too! ;D
A few quick photographs. (some flowers are past their best and some not reached their best - but I grabbed the pics while I could).
I will check spelling tomorrow.
1 - Hugh Mackenzie
2 - Bassisgruner = Galanthus 'Basisgrüner'
3 - Federkleid
4 - Fiona Mackenzie
5 - E A Bowles
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John
Now I know why people lust after 'Hugh Mackenzie'. Thought it was difficult to grow ;)
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No idea, what you mean Dima :o??? ;D
Hagen, it just reflects the current fashion trend in hagendrop breeding ;)
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John, wow wow wow your "E A Bowles"!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o love it!! so why wondering some odd Chuguyster you possess such one poculiguy!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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I'm not "galanthus lover" but few I'm growing. After Dima's wonderfull publication last year describing new snowdrop from W Caucasus, I finally identified my small residual stock of plant collected some 30 years ago in Abchasia. I grew it for years as "Galanthus similar to G. platyphyllus, but not identical". The stock raised up, then for some years remained only very few due bulb fly attack. Last year seeing that it is new species Galanthus panjutinii, I sent a corm to Colin Mason and rest planted in pot.
Its closest relatives are Galanthus krasnovii, but I lost my stock from surroundings of Suchumi and here I can show plant originally collected near Artvin, NE Turkey by Erich Pasche.
The third is Galanthus platyphyllus. We collected it during Georgian trip arranged by Colin. It was the last trip of Jim Archibald, but on picture is special form named by Henrik Zetterlund as 'Poet' for its special shape of flower
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Janis! Nice rare snowdrop species collection - love them all, especially Poet clump!! :o Hello from the Ukraine in snow!! ;D
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The snowdrop season here is also 3-4 weeks later than usual, because of the cold. snowdrops are at just about their best now, and for the first time ever I will have snowdrops looking their best in april!
Pontus
I too will have snowdrops in flower in April
Galanthus platyphyllus about 1 pm today. By late afternoon all the snow had melted in this spot
Galanthus plicatus 'Warham Group' The flowers aren't very big but the late flowering and the lovely broad silvery leaves earn it a place in the garden.
Galanthus elwesii
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A few quick photographs.
Wow, John. I was fortunate enough to actually visit your garden last month but I don't remember noticing any of those gems.
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John
Now I know why people lust after 'Hugh Mackenzie'.
Fiona Mackenzie might have something to say about that! ::)
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Janis! Nice rare snowdrop species collection - love them all, especially Poet clump!! :o Hello from the Ukraine in snow!! ;D
Thanks Dima. Watching TV I'm allways thinking about you and your garden in this horrible spring in Ukraina and here in Latvia, too.
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Janis fine Caucasic galanthus!
for all warm Easter greetings,
especially for Janis and Dima these white greetings!!
You are not alone.
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John KG,
the greenies love you atrium garden so much.
There is only a small but important difference between BASISGRÜNER and FEDERSCHWINGEN : BASISGRÜNER has blur basal marks. (I would have also only problems with German but I got it with breast milk ;))
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Hagen, I don't think you have ever posted pictures of the places where you find all your wonderful drops. If the snow ever melts I would be very interested to see some shots. I presume you could keep these generic enough so as not to reveal the locations. I have a few places that have proven very fruitful as sources of unusual snowdrops so I'm just interested to know how yours compare.
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Janis fine Caucasic galanthus!
for all warm Easter greetings,
especially for Janis and Dima these white greetings!!
You are not alone.
Thanks, Hagen. And to all forumists the same warmest Easter greetings!
The last night was not so horrible as forecasted. Here in greenhouse temperature dropped only to minus 3-8 C (outside we had 11). BHut only 50 km from here was minus 17 C.
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A good easter to all forumists too!
Some pics of one of my favorite woodlands.
Flore pleno
Snowdropcarpet only nivalis
flore pleno tending to poculoformicy
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A good easter to all forumists too!
Some pics of one of my favorite woodlands.
Flore pleno
Snowdropcarpet
flore pleno tending to poculoformicy
Gerard, is it one of your homestead with naturalized snowdrops??
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It is in the Netherlands and not far away from my home. When you have time to go to the Netherlands we will have a look together.
And probably the other woodland that everybody wants to know ;D
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Here are more pics from yesterday from my most favorite other woodland. Not the same as the previous one!
snowdropcarpet elwesii and nivalis
yellow form ( had a sick bulb)
and several others
and a Trumps look alike
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Here are more pics of elwesii i found;
Black shining through!
yellow on the inners
yellow/green blurring to the top
Black shining through!
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Two large flowering plants. Over 10 inches tall.
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I told Ken it would be a good yellow for his garden but I did not quite expect this.
johnw
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Again in his garden:
Anglesey Abbey
Cicely Hall
Desdemona
Dionysius
He has the bug but will not admit it.
johnw
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And his double nivalis and Tubby Merlin:
johnw
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Hello all, super pictures, we have had a little sunshine today, wonderfull just raised the temperature and melted some snow we will however still roll Easter eggs in the snow. We now havd both Galanthus Green Mile and Galanthus Green Tear flowering together they are quite different with G Green Mile being a more solid green with paler green leaf, G. Green Tear has more striped Green marks very close together and the flower has 4 petals might be a first?. I am posting some pictures for interest I think both are very fine forms with no favourite just wonderful to see them flower at last, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Edit : repeated photos removed
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A few more, cheers Ian
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Great to be able to compare the two Ian, thanks for posting. Do either of them have a fragrance?
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The first three pictures in the first post all appear identical and, if the caption to the last picture is correct, are all actually Green Tear. I note that Green Mile, which I prefer, also has a much longer ovary.
But anyway, thanks Ian. I really appreciate the opportunity to compare the two side-by-side.
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He has the bug but will not admit it.
I think you may have outted him John ;D
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Hello again, looks like I did post same pictures had a terrible time trying to post yesterday but hope to get it right. I did not notice any scent but it was still cold even with the sun out, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Ian, you don't have a Castle Green Dragon to hand for comparison with Green Mile and Green Tear?
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For green nivalis against green plicatus?
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Just green against green, irrespective of species.
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Hello Alan, I see Maggie or Ian has removed my double posts , I am posting G. plicatus Green Dragon anf G. plicatus Green Shadow these are now nearly over but the Green Mile and Green Tear are only just open what a winter. cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Hello Ian, fine new greenies in your hands.
Thank you for the comparison of GREEN TEAR and GREEN MILE.
But also the new plicatus GREEN SHADOW looks very interesting.
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Fantastic green snowdrops. 8)
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Hello again, well here is another green snowdrop a G. nivalis flowering very late came from Thomas Huber a few years ago it is very nice don't know much about this Thomas hope you can help, cheers Ian the Christie Kind.
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I go for the Green Dragon ;D
Ian it looks like one of the viridapice "groupe" , i do think Warei because the spathe is not always split with this one.I do find these forms in my "normal" viridapice sometimes.
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Wow, what a greendrop's carnival!! Thanks Ian! Let me put here my green G. graecus, although it's more olive-colored than all those known real greens...
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Thank you friends for this green Easter.
Now we have also a graecus-virescens in the green circle. Special Thanks to Dima.
Years ago I found on the saturday easter GRÜNE OSTERN - Green Easter in an old rectory garden.
Today I can show you only hope. Hope for some better days without snow.
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Dimitri,I love the subtle shade of your 'Greek Olive'.I've being told by a few people now,to really show off the colour,you have to grow them in the shade.Do you grow the green ones in half shade or full sun?And do you think it makes a difference? ??? ???
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I go for the Green Dragon ;D
i do think Warei because the spathe is not always split with this one.
Ian,I have to agree with Gerard.I too have petalloid spathes on Viridapice ,this year.I still think its nice though. :)
Thankyou for the pictures of green ;D ;D.I would have to look at them together ,in my own little plot, to choose . ;D ;D ;D
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Hello all thank you for all the posts these are very interesting Thomas send me three different green tips so will post some more pictures once I can see flowers snow has melted fast today. I am GREEN with envy at some of your pictures keep them coming, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Dimitri,I love the subtle shade of your 'Greek Olive'.I've being told by a few people now,to really show off the colour,you have to grow them in the shade.Do you grow the green ones in half shade or full sun?And do you think it makes a difference? ??? ???
Steve, I grow him in open position 2 years already - full sun all day long, moreover, the new accessions of it during our last bessarabian trip had the same OLIVE color, so, it isn't at all the sun impact ;D the site where snowdrops grow didn't make a difference at all in marks or ovary color. Only the complete lack of light when snowdrops regrow under deep cover make them fully etiolated, but it reverses next few weeks to a full green
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Thanks Dimitri,Thats good to know :).
Look what i found hanging in my clump of 'St.Pancras' today.
Does anyone recognise him? ;D ;D
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And in end of March - a few photos Galanthus krasnovii
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Very elegant krasnovii, Natalia 8)
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Look what i found hanging in my clump of 'St.Pancras' today.
Does anyone recognise him? ;D ;D
Mercy! There's a "wabbit" in your garden!
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Mercy! There's a "wabbit" in your garden!
;D ;D ;D
You've got me thinking now,perhaps its the EASTER BUNNY??
:'( :'( :'(Didn't leave me any eggs) :'( :'( :'( The wwascal ;D
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Maybe you have not searched well enough Steve! It cant hide those big eggs underneath the snowdrops ;D
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Maybe you have not searched well enough Steve! It cant hide those big eggs underneath the snowdrops ;D
;D ;D ;D
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Natalia, your krasnovii-spider is very unusual and gracile. top
It is a very fine species. One of my most fine gems!!!
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Hagen, thank you, too me very much liked this option of flower snowdrops .