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Title: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ashley on January 27, 2013, 04:18:22 PM
Tulipa amana edulis      always early, always reclining so elegantly ;D
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on January 27, 2013, 04:21:45 PM
In January!!! 

They do tend to loll about rather - we always blame the low light levels in our glass house - but I'm sure Ashley's glass is cleaner than ours!  Has anyone got any  theories on why it always  flops- or how to remedy it?

Does it tend to grow through something in the wild to support it a bit?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ashley on January 27, 2013, 04:47:35 PM
Not sure about the glass Maggi.  Yes maybe it grows through other plants, or perhaps we all grow the same indolent clone ;D

I'd love to find a source of seed, preferably wild-collected, but have never seen it listed anywhere.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Oakwood on January 27, 2013, 05:02:02 PM
it's Tulipa edulis (Miq.) Baker rather..... ::)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: LucS on January 27, 2013, 05:09:48 PM
In January!!! 

They do tend to loll about rather - we always blame the low light levels in our glass house - but I'm sure Ashley's glass is cleaner than ours!  Has anyone got any  theories on why it always  flops- or how to remedy it?
It's caused by the short daylight I guess. My plants are just visible at the moment because I keep them unheated. I'll posts some photos in the future if I remember...
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on January 27, 2013, 05:16:06 PM
Ours do not come up and flower for quite a while yet, so the daylight is longer then......
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ashley on January 27, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
it's Tulipa edulis (Miq.) Baker rather..... ::)

Thanks Dima; senior moment :-[
Corrected above now.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: LucS on January 28, 2013, 05:32:53 AM
Ours do not come up and flower for quite a while yet, so the daylight is longer then......
Amount of light in combination with temperature ?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on January 28, 2013, 11:13:43 AM
Amount of light in combination with temperature ?
I'd agree with that, except Ashley should be doing better on both counts and he still has the problem.....
 Maybe it is just lying low  to hide, so we won't eat it?  ::)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ashley on January 28, 2013, 09:10:01 PM
I'm sure you're right Luc. 

The combination of mild temperatures and low light (not just latitude but cloudy skies too) is probably the critical combination that attenuates most winter bulbs here. 
(Mild temp x good light) or (low temp x low light) might keep them more in character.
Next year I'll postpone first watering to late December in the hope of delaying them until spring and thereby getting tighter growth.

Of course wet leaves and algae on the greenhouse roof don't help much either :P ;D
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: FrazerHenderson on February 02, 2013, 09:52:10 PM
Ashley, you are right. Wilford cites that Amana edulis "needs a little warmth and some sunshine to open fully, and in the short, dull days of winter the stems rapidly elongate, causing blooms to flop over". 
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: LucS on February 03, 2013, 07:05:05 AM
Amana edulis in the open greenhouse.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Oron Peri on February 24, 2013, 09:33:11 PM
Tulipa agenensis in the Northern Mediterranean coast in Israel is at its best today.
Due to very good rain this winter we see some extraordinary sites this early spring.
Photos were taken this afternoon.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Oron Peri on February 24, 2013, 09:35:58 PM
As I'm always searching something different, found these forms.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ian mcenery on February 24, 2013, 09:39:41 PM
Tulipa agenensis in the Northern Mediterranean coast in Israel is at its best today.
Due to very good rain this winter we see some extraordinary sites this early spring.
Photos were taken this afternoon.

You are lucky Oron lovely to see these in nature
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Hans A. on February 24, 2013, 10:30:20 PM
 :o  - Oron, thanks a lot for showing those great pictures!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: BULBISSIME on February 24, 2013, 11:32:16 PM
Fantastic pictures Oron ! did you swim too ?  ;) the group effect should be stunning.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Janis Ruksans on February 25, 2013, 06:40:30 AM
Thanks, Oron. Phantastic!
Janis
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: art600 on February 25, 2013, 08:59:48 AM
Oron

That's a red tulip I like  - fantastic colour
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Armin on February 25, 2013, 02:35:54 PM
Oron,
what a brilliant red color 8)
Thanks for showing.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: FrazerHenderson on March 02, 2013, 04:18:40 PM
Oron
A splendid scarlet. Thanks for the pictures. What was the height 25-30cm?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Hans A. on March 05, 2013, 02:35:33 PM
Tulipa agenensis started to flower also here in Spain (with 8 petals).
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 05, 2013, 03:07:52 PM
T.orthopoda flowering outdoors here in Kent UK now. Everything late due to cold February.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on March 05, 2013, 03:29:39 PM
Welcome j-r-c   funny old year already, isn't it?  Your T. orthopoda flower there in Kent  would still be early for us up in the North East of Scotland  :)

The foliage is a good colour too, isn't it?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 05, 2013, 05:51:36 PM
Yes, nice foliage, but late. Attached in photo of T. biflora on 1st March last year.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 06, 2013, 04:28:38 PM
Tulipa biflora and Tulipa kurdica just emerging outdoors here in Kent today.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Oron Peri on March 09, 2013, 07:56:00 AM
Oron
A splendid scarlet. Thanks for the pictures. What was the height 25-30cm?

Thanks all,

Frazer,
They vary much, from 10-45cm, depending on exposure to wind and sun.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Oron Peri on March 09, 2013, 08:02:59 AM
The amazing Tulipa cypria is in bloom;
last year the first seedling has flowered , this year four ,
difference between lasts year plant and  the others is obvious.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: BULBISSIME on March 09, 2013, 11:15:11 AM
Incredible color, especially with daylight  ;D
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 09, 2013, 07:46:00 PM
Oron (or anybody!) - where can I buy bulbs of T. aganensis and T. cypria?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on March 11, 2013, 12:31:32 PM
Winter has returned here in Kent!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: BULBISSIME on March 13, 2013, 09:34:44 PM
The small and bright Tulipa systola in the Negev desert.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 14, 2013, 08:01:48 AM
The small and bright Tulipa systola in the Negev desert.

What a brilliant little plant !!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on March 14, 2013, 11:38:39 AM
The small and bright Tulipa systola in the Negev desert.

Fred,
I always admire your wonderful photographs of exceptional high quality. They make an impression as if you see the things in the mirror. Suppose you have very good professional camera.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: BULBISSIME on March 14, 2013, 11:46:41 AM
another one, taller, T. agenensis sap. sharonensis

Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Gerdk on March 20, 2013, 05:42:36 PM
Here is Tulipa (Amana) edulis photographed 2 days ago in my sandbed. It seems this species has a disposition to turn upwards. Nevertheless outside much prettier than inside -
see last pic!

Gerd
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on March 23, 2013, 01:24:49 PM
http://www.tulipsociety.co.uk/index.php/calendar-summary (http://www.tulipsociety.co.uk/index.php/calendar-summary)   -   for the WNE Tulip Society's   UK tulip events
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Gerdk on March 27, 2013, 07:15:16 PM
Here are two species from today - Tulipa binutans (if correct?) and Tulipa neustruvae -
opening at midday in the sun (temperature not more than about 5 ° C)

Gerd
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on March 29, 2013, 08:43:41 PM
some pix of very early Botzchantzeva's kaufmannianas, taken a week ago in the counry house

I. (from right to left) 'Voschod Solntza' /1st and 2nd rows/, 'Sijanie' /3-d row/, 'Utro' /4th and 5th row/
II. the same order, but from left to right, plus Janis' 'Nessy' /6th row in the centre/
III. one of tulipa greigii beds
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: BULBISSIME on March 30, 2013, 11:37:00 AM
very clean beds and healthy plants !!! great work Zhirair  :)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on March 30, 2013, 07:30:12 PM
very clean beds and healthy plants !!! great work Zhirair  :)

Thank you, Fred!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Tony Willis on March 31, 2013, 07:50:00 PM
Tulipa doerfleri near Spili Crete today. Temperature 26c!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: BULBISSIME on March 31, 2013, 11:56:31 PM
Lucky Guy !!!  2°C here ...  :( and no Tulipa doerfleri
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Tony Willis on April 01, 2013, 08:15:57 PM
Tulipa bakeri on the Omalos plain. There were thousands of them in full bloom
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 01, 2013, 08:36:15 PM
When we see Tulips in the wild in Turkey they're not often growing in turf like that -  is this more common in Crete, Tony ?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Armin on April 02, 2013, 09:26:43 AM
Very nice tulips Tony,

T. doerfleri resembles T. orphanidea and T. whittallii.

Does anybody knows about their phylogenetic relationship?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Tony Willis on April 02, 2013, 03:28:27 PM
When we see Tulips in the wild in Turkey they're not often growing in turf like that -  is this more common in Crete, Tony ?

Maggi

the bakeri were growing in fields with a lot of grass but doerfleri are in fields of some sort of grain crop whilst cretica is on a stony hillside amongst various orchids and most were finished
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 02, 2013, 04:04:34 PM
Thanks for the info, Tony.  :)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on April 02, 2013, 05:49:55 PM
Familiar places and plants Tony .  :)  Good to see them again .....You have to be there on the right time . Sometimes it depends on few days or a week. Two years ago we have been there only 1 week earlier and none of the bakeri's on the Omalos plain was flowering . The same with doerfleri near Spili . Tulipa cretica on the other hand was at is best that week. 
Are there stil many doerfleri's ? During our last visit I was thinking that they are threatened over there ....
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on April 02, 2013, 08:43:01 PM
Some Tulipa cretica in flower here .....
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Lvandelft on April 02, 2013, 10:53:39 PM
Going Wild for Tulips

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There are 42 species beautiful photographed in their habitat in for instance Kazakhstan, Kirgizstan, Turkmenistan, Iran, but also in Crete and Switzerland.
The photos are made over several years by Eric Breed, Wim Lemmers, Marijn van den Brink, Sjaak de Groot, Arie Peterse and most trips were guided by Vladimir Kolbintsjev.
The price of this little booklet is € 9,95 excl. p. p.
 Details on ordering etc. can be obtained from Eric Breed: info@tulippictures.eu
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Tony Willis on April 03, 2013, 03:55:22 PM
Kris

I had also heard they were threatened but there are thousands in the fields around the 'Spili bump'.I think that many years a lot do not flower and this gives the impression there are not many plants but this is not so. We have been over a period of 20 years and nothing has changed.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on April 03, 2013, 08:24:18 PM
Kris
I had also heard they were threatened but there are thousands in the fields around the 'Spili bump'.I think that many years a lot do not flower and this gives the impression there are not many plants but this is not so. We have been over a period of 20 years and nothing has changed.

Thanks Tony . Good news , its better this way  :D :D :D 
I also spread the good news to my wife ....it's  Ingrid favorite because of the red colour I suppose ...
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Janis Ruksans on April 04, 2013, 12:16:41 PM
some pix of very early Botzchantzeva's kaufmannianas, taken a week ago in the counry house

I. (from right to left) 'Voschod Solntza' /1st and 2nd rows/, 'Sijanie' /3-d row/, 'Utro' /4th and 5th row/
II. the same order, but from left to right, plus Janis' 'Nessy' /6th row in the centre/
III. one of tulipa greigii beds

Looks fantastic, Zhirair! My greetings!
Janis
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on April 05, 2013, 06:42:54 AM
Looks fantastic, Zhirair! My greetings!
Janis

Thank you, Janis! It's a pleasure to receive compliments from a bulb guru.
Yesterday I was studying your new website, enjoying the photographs. Very interesting! Congratulations!!!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: zephirine on April 06, 2013, 05:15:22 AM
Tulipa humilis 'Tete a tete" blooming outside these days. The flower looks like it's springing from the ground!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 09, 2013, 07:45:28 PM
Well, we had the second coldest March on record, and last week we had the coldest April day for 50 years. despite that a few Tulips opened during brief sunny intervals. T. subbiflora on 2nd April, T. polychroma Hort. also on the 2nd, T. bifloriformis 'Bashkisilsai' on the 6th. Hope for more if the weather warms up.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 09, 2013, 08:28:49 PM
I know how you feel Ralph, it's still very cold here. Does you good when the shines shines like that and the flowers open ,though, doesn't it?  8)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: FrazerHenderson on April 10, 2013, 08:33:38 PM
Very nice tulips Tony,

T. doerfleri resembles T. orphanidea and T. whittallii.

Does anybody knows about their phylogenetic relationship?

Armin

The tulips are subgenus Eriostemones (Boiss) section Sylvestres (Baker), Tulipa doerfleri is considered to be a triploid subspecies and T. whittallii a tetraploid ssp of T. orphanidea. There is also a possibility that
T. orphanidea may be, according to cytological evidence, an old hybrid of T. hageri x T. sylvestris.

It all seems very incestuous, however the good news is that Kew is publishing a Tulipa monograph (the first since 1940!) in May (cost £37.50 from Amazon) and it should contain the results of flow cytometry, building on earlier work by Zonneveld.

Roll on May!

FRazer
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Armin on April 11, 2013, 11:10:27 PM
Frazer,
many thanks for your investigative works!
It brings some light in the darkness :)
Let's wait for May then.
Title: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ikizzeki on April 12, 2013, 01:50:45 PM
My tulip(s) growing freely.. ;D I only wanted to share..
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Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: David Nicholson on April 12, 2013, 04:44:51 PM
One from the garden this week Tulipa 'Little Beauty'



Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 12, 2013, 04:53:39 PM
Tulipa schrenkii Hort. (Kurt Vickery tells me it is a Dutch clone, not the true species. Nice though.)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Armin on April 12, 2013, 10:22:29 PM
Nice tulips from everybody 8)

Can you identify please my tulip? - It belongs to T. turkistanica / bifloriformis complex.

This clone usually flowers with one single flower per stem. It is stoloniferous and extreme robust.
No sign of losses or damages by black frost or long cold winters.
I never lift them for summer dormancy.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ashley on April 12, 2013, 11:10:21 PM
Tulipa schrenkii Hort. (Kurt Vickery tells me it is a Dutch clone, not the true species. Nice though.)

Yes it is nice.
I have 3-year old seedlings from an exchange that are far too green and luxuriant to be right :(

Could yours be turkestanica Armin? 
By the way, your T. clusiana are looking lovely here this year 8)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on April 13, 2013, 06:35:20 AM
Tulipa schrenkii Hort. (Kurt Vickery tells me it is a Dutch clone, not the true species. Nice though.)

Me and some of my colleagues also supposed that, until we observed some similar specimen in the wild. In Crimea there are types resembling the Dutch  one in colouration among ordinary red and yellow ones.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Janis Ruksans on April 13, 2013, 08:03:45 AM
In my greenhouses only earliest tulips are blooming now.
The first two pictures are from Tulipa biflora collected last spring in Kazahstan.
This Tulipa dasystemon was originally collected by my friend Arnis Seisums in Uzbekistan.
Tulipa dasystemonoides I got from Arnis, too.
And as last Tulipa turkestanica from Oudzhasai collected together with Arnis in Uzbekistan.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ashley on April 13, 2013, 08:12:33 AM
Me and some of my colleagues also supposed that, until we observed some similar specimen in the wild. In Crimea there are types resembling the Dutch  one in colouration among ordinary red and yellow ones.

What a wonderful sight.   
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Armin on April 13, 2013, 11:53:33 AM
Quote
Could yours be turkestanica Armin? 
By the way, your T. clusiana are looking lovely here this year 8)

Ashley,
I have 2 different clones. The one shown I've bought under the name T. biflora which it is not.
I thought of T. turkestanica (of commerce) all the times - but comparing with Janis image it does not much either.
Also T. bifloriformis seems not matching. :-\
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 13, 2013, 12:03:53 PM
Here are a couple more flowering outside here in Kent today. Tulipa sogdiana and Tulipa berkariense (nomen nudem - not formally published), both from Janis.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 14, 2013, 08:55:31 PM
Sunny and 24oC here today! T. humilis 'Albocaerulea' opned its flowers.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 14, 2013, 09:01:14 PM
Some tulips today :

1-2 : Tulipa greigii "Sunset"
3-4 : Tulipa humilis albocoerulea oculata alba
5 : Tulipa kurdica
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: BULBISSIME on April 14, 2013, 09:08:49 PM
Spring is coming here too  :)
Tulipa from Syria, I think it's Tulipa systola
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 15, 2013, 07:10:33 PM
Tulipa regelii flowering today
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: David Nicholson on April 15, 2013, 07:12:53 PM
Nice collection JRC.
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Post by: Maggi Young on April 15, 2013, 07:22:54 PM
Tulipa regelii flowering today
Oh, you lucky dog! I love that plant!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 15, 2013, 07:27:28 PM
Oh, you lucky dog! I love that plant!
Got it from Janis - cost an arm and a leg but.....
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Arda Takan on April 15, 2013, 07:42:06 PM
Some species tulips. Their label is on their pod so I cannot indentify them :D
I want to thank Mr. PeterT.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 15, 2013, 07:44:08 PM
Got it from Janis - cost an arm and a leg but.....
Yes, I understand - sometimes a man's just gotta do, what a man's gotta do.......
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: BULBISSIME on April 15, 2013, 09:32:52 PM
a jewel Ralph !!!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 17, 2013, 05:20:38 PM
Tulipa iliensis today. Kurt Vickery tells me this isn't "right" for the species and is probably a Dutch clone.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 17, 2013, 06:36:34 PM
Here are some other forum posts to Tulipa iliensis..... not sure if  helps?!! ;)

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=301.msg7402#msg7402 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=301.msg7402#msg7402)

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6483.msg196937#msg196937 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6483.msg196937#msg196937)   DSC03055

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2991.msg78679#msg78679 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2991.msg78679#msg78679)

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8211.msg222639#msg222639 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8211.msg222639#msg222639)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 17, 2013, 07:31:12 PM
Some tulips flowering at the moment :

1 & 2 Tulipa dubia - Beldersai

3 & 4 Tulipa greigii, a selection called "Mountain's Glory"

5) Tulipa heweri
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 17, 2013, 08:35:08 PM
Here are some other forum posts to Tulipa iliensis..... not sure if  helps?!! ;) 

I don't think so; Kurt tells me that true T. iliensis is tiny, around 4" tall; most of these seem much bigger.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Arda Takan on April 18, 2013, 07:10:12 AM
Tulipa regelii flowering today
This is a majestic tulip
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on April 18, 2013, 10:05:29 PM
Currently it snows here. Most of my taller tulips are lying on the ground because of wet heavy snow.

Some pictures from the last week.
1. tulipa biflora (native form)
2. tulipa julia
3. tulipa karabachensis
4. tulipa kolpakovskiana Kazakhia (very beautiful tall, large blooming reddish orange selection)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on April 18, 2013, 10:11:13 PM
1. vvedenskyi 'Lady Guna' and 'Girlfriend'
2. greigii 'Dadzitis' (develops very large flowers)
3. tulipa lanata (a real show-stopper)
4. tulipa ingens
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on April 18, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
1. tulips fosteriana 'Easter Parade' and 'Hit Parade'
2. tulipa fosteriana 'Materinskaja Slava' (Botschantzeva selection)
3. tulipa fosteriana 'Materinskaja Slava'
4. tulipa fosteriana 'gaujas Nitionalais parks' (Sidrevics selection, very beautiful tulip, a gem)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on April 18, 2013, 10:25:44 PM
1. kaufmanniana 'Corona' and its sport 'Zelta Corona' (darker one selected by J. Egle)
2. greigii 'Kremlevskie Zvezdy' (a hybrid with tulipa brachystemon)
3. greigii 'Saulriets'
4. greigii 'Queen Ingrid' (aka 'Lady Diana'
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on April 18, 2013, 10:46:02 PM
1. fosteriana 'Rigas Barikades'
2. fosteriana tulips
3. greigii 'Kiev' (thanks to Mark for this super beauty!)
4. my son picking flowers and his cousin
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: BULBISSIME on April 18, 2013, 10:50:16 PM
Impressive !!
I just wonder how many Tulips do you grow ???
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on April 18, 2013, 11:02:44 PM
Impressive !!
I just wonder how many Tulips do you grow ???

Thanks, Fred!
I grow over 500. Could grow more, but I just collect according to my personal requirements and test only.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: BULBISSIME on April 18, 2013, 11:12:23 PM
500 is not too bad  ;D :o
I hope the snow will not damage your plants.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ian mcenery on April 18, 2013, 11:19:01 PM
One of the first here T stapfii
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Tony Willis on April 19, 2013, 03:51:43 PM
One of only four I grow

Tulipa armena
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on April 19, 2013, 08:37:40 PM
One of only four I grow
Tulipa armena

But a very good one Tony !
Also likes Ian's T.stapfii. 
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 21, 2013, 01:41:31 PM
Tulipa urumiensis today. Another one that Kurt Vickery tells me is of Dutch origin.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 21, 2013, 02:05:04 PM
Tulipa urumiensis today. Another one that Kurt Vickery tells me is of Dutch origin.
You want to get your nose in that- the scent is delicious!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 21, 2013, 05:33:49 PM
Tulipa humilis 'Persian Pearl' today.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 21, 2013, 08:16:30 PM
One of only four I grow

Tulipa armena

Looking great Tony !

Out here Tulipa heweri provides a good display and Tulipa greigii 'Goldenes Prague' opens up almost without a stalk !

Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 22, 2013, 11:02:51 AM
Luc,
I'd never heard of T. heweri - it's a real sweetie!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 22, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
May I suggest a visit by Tulip lovers to the pages of Plantes Passion, where you wll see some fantastic photos of tulips, in solitary splendour and en masse  from several French Forumists  who are well known here.... Vincent26, Bulbissime and  Zephirine.......   http://plantes-passion.forumactif.fr/t4665-tulipa-2013 (http://plantes-passion.forumactif.fr/t4665-tulipa-2013)

- it wouldn't hurt to check out the Narcissus page either, to see large groups of Narcissus dubius!  8) 8)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 22, 2013, 07:13:23 PM
You want to get your nose in that- the scent is delicious!
Mmm, yes - honey!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 22, 2013, 07:16:31 PM
Two more today: T. kolpakowskiana and T. dubia 'Beldersai'
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 23, 2013, 11:26:12 AM
Some more, all Dutch origin: Tulipa heweri Hort., Tulipa dasystemon Hort., Tulipa urumiensis 'Little Star'
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 23, 2013, 11:28:07 AM
Tulipa greigii 'Corsage'.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 23, 2013, 11:32:20 AM
And Tulipa greigii, the species, a gift from Kurt Vickery. A big plant, 14 inches/36 cms tall.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 23, 2013, 11:33:12 AM
And Tulipa greigii, the species, a gift from Kurt Vickery. A big plant, 14 inches/36 cms tall.
Note: cat's tail for scale....
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 23, 2013, 11:47:15 AM
Note: cat's tail for scale....
Thank goodness for that - I did wonder if you were sporting some spectacular facial hair that had crept into frame......... ::) :-X
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Tony Willis on April 23, 2013, 02:46:19 PM
A couple of pictures of a not very exciting tulip I collected in Turkey in 1990 near Cerkes which is East of Bolu

Tulipa sylvestris I think
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: FrazerHenderson on April 23, 2013, 04:54:38 PM
Tony

..but grace and beauty outlast excitement; a charming form.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ebbie on April 23, 2013, 05:36:18 PM
Tulipa aucheriana
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 23, 2013, 08:24:56 PM
Two more: Tulipa tarda 'Kashka Su' from Janis, and Tulipa stapfii Hort., of Dutch origin. Kurt Vickery tells me that this is no longer a valid name.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 24, 2013, 01:21:30 PM
And Tulipa greigii, the species, a gift from Kurt Vickery. A big plant, 14 inches/36 cms tall.
Now fully open - magnificent!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 24, 2013, 08:24:37 PM
Tuilpa tschimganica Hort., another one that Kurt Vickery tells me is a Dutch clone.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 25, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
Yet another of Dutch origin - Tulipa clusiana var. cashmeriana
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 25, 2013, 12:43:42 PM
T. dubia 'Beldersai', from Janis. This interesting orange variant opened today - compare to the yellow one I posted recently.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Arda Takan on April 25, 2013, 04:46:42 PM
Mr carpenter may I ask how many T. species you have?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 25, 2013, 08:41:34 PM
Well, sixty-five and counting, but many of of Dutch origin so of unknown wild provenance, and this also includes a few Cultivars.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 25, 2013, 08:45:14 PM
Tulipa montana Yellow Form. Of Dutch origin.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ian mcenery on April 26, 2013, 01:27:58 AM
Some lovely plants showing here and many well ahead of mine. Here is a little one that I like T bithnica a little bit from the Wallis list some years ago
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Janis Ruksans on April 26, 2013, 11:42:09 AM
Some tulips blooming in my greenhose now:
Tulipa albertii from Kazahstan, near Alma-Ata
Tulipa bifloriformis from Nuratau, Timurlan Gate in Uzbekistan, they grew on large rock and were cllected in strong wind not allowing to picture
This unusual Tulipa fosteriana was collected in Agalik, Uzbekistan and is named after my first wife
Tulipa hewerii comes from Afganistan and is very good grower, strongly resembles T. praestans (by bulb sheets) and something looks as yellow variant of it
This Tulipa humilis was collected in Iran by Arnis Seisums, between those was one pure white, too.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Janis Ruksans on April 26, 2013, 11:45:50 AM
Some more tulips:
Tulipa kurdica close relative of humilis, comes from Willem van Eeden
Tulipa lemmersii was described very recently - very beautiful tulip species
Tulipa stapfii I got from Norman Stevens (Cambridge Bulbs)
Tulipa systola comes from N Iraq and was collected there by Henrik Zetterlund
and as last today Tulipa zenaidae from Kirghizstan, collected at Kashka-Su
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 26, 2013, 12:04:32 PM
Your flowers are opening at great speed now, Janis!

The story of Janis'  March trip to Turkey with Ibrahim is now online in the International Rock Gardener-
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2013Apr261366962255IRG40April.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2013Apr261366962255IRG40April.pdf)      :)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Armin on April 26, 2013, 07:17:18 PM
Some tulips blooming in my greenhose now:
Tulipa albertii from Kazahstan, near Alma-Ata
Tulipa bifloriformis from Nuratau, Timurlan Gate in Uzbekistan, they grew on large rock and were cllected in strong wind not allowing to picture
This unusual Tulipa fosteriana was collected in Agalik, Uzbekistan and is named after my first wife
Tulipa hewerii comes from Afganistan and is very good grower, strongly resembles T. praestans (by bulb sheets) and something looks as yellow variant of it
This Tulipa humilis was collected in Iran by Arnis Seisums, between those was one pure white, too.

Janis,
phantastic tulips. I'm having difficulties to distinguish T. bifloriformis from T. turkestanica. Can you tell us the key differences?
I also vague remember having read somewhere the dutch commercial clone of T. turkestanica are all T. bifloriformis???

Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Janis Ruksans on April 27, 2013, 07:48:59 AM
Janis,
phantastic tulips. I'm having difficulties to distinguish T. bifloriformis from T. turkestanica. Can you tell us the key differences?
I also vague remember having read somewhere the dutch commercial clone of T. turkestanica are all T. bifloriformis???
Not easy. I can't separate by key prepared by Vvedenskyi "Conspectus Florae Asiae Maediae"
Better is key made by Silina - "Ornamental Perennials for Openg ground in USSR. Monocots".
By Silina (and by key in Flora USSR)
Bulb cover sheets inside hairy throughout - Tulipa bifloriformis
Bulb cover sheets inside hairy at upper half only - T. turkestanica

By Botschantzeva - anthers yellow - turkestanica
                               anthers black - bifloriformis  - but it is not true - both have forms with yellow and with black anthers
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on April 27, 2013, 05:20:18 PM
Weather turned nasty again here yesterday so not much happening. Tulipa celsiana Hort. just opening (Dutch origin), also Tulipa aucheriana, from Janis. And I'm off the Canada tomorrow for two and a half weeks - no doubt all the remaining tulips will perform while I'm away due to our late season - grrr! And not just the tulips....there's never a good time to be away from the garden!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on April 27, 2013, 05:53:25 PM
And I'm off the Canada tomorrow for two and a half weeks - no doubt all the remaining tulips will perform while I'm away due to our late season - grrr! And not just the tulips....there's never a good time to be away from the garden!
Have a good trip, Ralph.
We're thinking the same about being away from our garden for just eleven days while we go to the Czech conference- what will we miss by being away?  :-\
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: David Nicholson on April 27, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Have agreat trip Ralph, hope you're taking the camera with you?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: ArnoldT on April 28, 2013, 03:01:33 AM
Tulipa altaica
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Janis Ruksans on April 28, 2013, 03:33:09 PM
My greenhouse today - blooms tulips and juno irises.
On next three pictures is one of most difficult in cultivation tulip - Tulipa behmiana. It was collected near Alma-Ata where it is growing in desert on sandy soils. Bulbs lie very deep - more than half meter and it was very difficult to reach. Fortunately spring waters washed some soil away and it was possible to reach them digging from side of  some bank. Note pendant buds before blooming, on other two pictures closed and open flower. As I'm growing Tulipa regelii I hope to success with behmiana, too. I have only yellow form, but in nature it is very variable in colour.
On last picture Tulipa albertii - another yellow form from near Alma-Ata, Kazahstan.
More tulip pictures are on my home-page.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Janis Ruksans on May 07, 2013, 03:12:34 PM
Some red beauties - Tulipa affinis from Sjaak, then micheliana from Kara-Karga (Uzbekistan) and two aquisitions of Tulipa micheliana from Iran. It seem nthat correct name must be Tulipa undulatifolia var. micheliana. Is it really so? I would not like to agree with this name-change in last Curtis's Botanical Magazine.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Armin on May 07, 2013, 05:02:08 PM
Not easy. I can't separate by key prepared by Vvedenskyi "Conspectus Florae Asiae Maediae"
Better is key made by Silina - "Ornamental Perennials for Openg ground in USSR. Monocots".
By Silina (and by key in Flora USSR)
Bulb cover sheets inside hairy throughout - Tulipa bifloriformis
Bulb cover sheets inside hairy at upper half only - T. turkestanica

By Botschantzeva - anthers yellow - turkestanica
                               anthers black - bifloriformis  - but it is not true - both have forms with yellow and with black anthers

Janis,
many thanks, very interesting. This is a new info to me.

May I ask your personal opinion? Do you believe the hairs inside cover sheets is a sufficient key to justify two species looking so similar?
Independent of any further replies - I'll check my two different clones when dormant for the features. :)

T. (undulatifiolia var.) micheliana is stunning! :o
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Janis Ruksans on May 09, 2013, 08:50:38 AM
Janis,
many thanks, very interesting. This is a new info to me.

May I ask your personal opinion? Do you believe the hairs inside cover sheets is a sufficient key to justify two species looking so similar?

I think that it is useful. They are different by DNA, so they are different species. The hairs on tunics is easy checkable feature
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Armin on May 10, 2013, 01:24:50 PM
Many thanks Janis, now it explains it sufficiently to me. 
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: wmel on May 12, 2013, 06:09:37 PM
No Tulipa species, but al seedlings from tulipa gesneriana......
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on May 17, 2013, 10:18:10 PM
1. Skif
2. Kamennyj Tzvetok
3. Dzeltene Lilija
4. Ballade Orange
5. Ballade and its colourful sports
6. Аxinia

(http://s61.radikal.ru/i174/1305/30/165fe5609633t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s61.radikal.ru/i174/1305/30/165fe5609633.jpg) (http://s017.radikal.ru/i423/1305/1d/fab8256e6836t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s017.radikal.ru/i423/1305/1d/fab8256e6836.jpg) (http://s14.radikal.ru/i187/1305/8b/c92dcfe57d7ct.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s14.radikal.ru/i187/1305/8b/c92dcfe57d7c.jpg) (http://s006.radikal.ru/i215/1305/08/d7e0187b4b31t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s006.radikal.ru/i215/1305/08/d7e0187b4b31.jpg) (http://s018.radikal.ru/i524/1305/dc/845fe80b30e6t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s018.radikal.ru/i524/1305/dc/845fe80b30e6.jpg) (http://s006.radikal.ru/i215/1305/20/4bd08118ffd4t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s006.radikal.ru/i215/1305/20/4bd08118ffd4.jpg)

and more

1. Smetana (giant tulip')
2. Louis XIV
3. Bronze King Кинг
4. Bacchus
5. Fulton
6. Arthur Rubinstein
7. ancient brown gesneriana tulip

(http://s61.radikal.ru/i173/1305/48/e900bfa5fe83t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s61.radikal.ru/i173/1305/48/e900bfa5fe83.jpg) (http://s020.radikal.ru/i723/1305/c9/51bea0a90b3bt.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s020.radikal.ru/i723/1305/c9/51bea0a90b3b.jpg) (http://s020.radikal.ru/i722/1305/6b/1c92a5280fe5t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s020.radikal.ru/i722/1305/6b/1c92a5280fe5.jpg) (http://s56.radikal.ru/i152/1305/c1/b3302ea2c385t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s56.radikal.ru/i152/1305/c1/b3302ea2c385.jpg") (http://s017.radikal.ru/i432/1305/68/bc625bcc1f82t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s017.radikal.ru/i432/1305/68/bc625bcc1f82.jpg) (http://s40.radikal.ru/i089/1305/ac/b0e598d4f8fat.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s40.radikal.ru/i089/1305/ac/b0e598d4f8fa.jpg) (http://s017.radikal.ru/i438/1305/49/e4a53198a6aet.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s017.radikal.ru/i438/1305/49/e4a53198a6ae.jpg)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on May 18, 2013, 09:25:00 AM

For some reason, Boyed's photos do not enlarge, nor do the links beneath them lead to an available page - I am not sure why this is so - we must be content with viewing the thumbnails pix.

MANY THANKS to Jef  for his solution to the problem - all fixed now, I think!
Great to be able to enjoy the photos at their best.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Jozef Lemmens on May 18, 2013, 10:02:17 AM
N.B. re above post:

For some reason, Boyed's photos do not enlarge, nor do the links beneath them lead to an available page - I am not sure why this is so - we must be content with viewing the thumbnails pix.

Maggi, try to remove  "http//   and    "   at the end  ;)     (or www."http.com//  ) 
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Gerry Webster on May 18, 2013, 10:19:18 AM
Yes, this works.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on May 18, 2013, 10:34:30 AM
Thank you Jozef, this has solved the problem - I am VERY grateful to you for your help  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 18, 2013, 01:05:23 PM
Just back from Canada to find this in flower - Tulipa didieri (another of Dutch origin).
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on May 18, 2013, 01:11:03 PM
Ralph, sending you a message about seed.......
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on May 18, 2013, 03:59:52 PM
For some reason, Boyed's photos do not enlarge, nor do the links beneath them lead to an available page - I am not sure why this is so - we must be content with viewing the thumbnails pix.

MANY THANKS to Jef  for his solution to the problem - all fixed now, I think!
Great to be able to enjoy the photos at their best.

Maggi,

Maybe here the web-site where I uploaded pictures, is not supported. I posted the same pix in the Russian forum and everything worked O.K. Yesterday I noticed that here the pictures don't enlarge.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Lvandelft on May 18, 2013, 10:48:33 PM
Some nice (old) tulips there, Zhirair! I like the form and colours of Skif and  Kamennyj Tzvetok  8)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 19, 2013, 01:37:40 PM
I didn't know that wild tulips grew in North America, but apparently Tulipa sylvestris can be found in Ontario and some of the New England states in the US. Here it is growing on the Niagara escarpment in Waterdown, near Hamilton Ontario.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 22, 2013, 08:28:01 PM
Ottawa Tulip Festival

The Canadian Tulip Festival is a tulip festival, held annually in May in Ottawa, Canada. The festival claims to be the world's largest tulip festival, displaying over one million tulips, with attendance of over 500,000 visitors annually. Large displays of tulips are planted throughout the city, and the largest display of tulips is found in Commissioners Park on the shores of Dow's Lake, and along the Rideau Canal with 300,000 tulips planted there alone.

In 1945, the Dutch royal family sent 100,000 tulip bulbs to Ottawa in gratitude for Canadians having sheltered Princess Juliana and her daughters for the preceding three years during the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands, in the Second World War. The most noteworthy event during their time in Canada was the birth in 1943 of Princess Margriet to Princess Juliana at the Ottawa Civic Hospital. The maternity ward was declared to be officially a temporary part of international territory, so that she would be born in no country and would inherit only her Dutch citizenship from her mother. In 1946, Juliana sent another 20,500 bulbs requesting that a display be created for the hospital, and promised to send 10,000 more bulbs each year.

While the Netherlands continues to send 20,000 bulbs to Canada each year (10,000 from the Royal Family and 10,000 from the Dutch Bulb Growers Association), by 1963 the festival featured more than 2 million, and today sees nearly 3 million tulips purchased from Dutch and Canadian distributors.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 23, 2013, 01:53:50 PM
A few more Tulips flowering here, despite the dull weather: Tulipa saxatilis Hort., Tulipa bakeri 'Lilac Wonder', and a rather washed-out looking Tulipa acuminata (all of Dutch origin).
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on May 24, 2013, 08:43:38 PM
Probably the last two to flower this year: Tulipa batalinii (Dutch origin) and Tulipa butkowii from Janis.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: FrazerHenderson on May 26, 2013, 03:55:54 PM
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Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: FrazerHenderson on May 26, 2013, 04:26:50 PM
Some pictures taken at Keukenhof
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: FrazerHenderson on May 26, 2013, 09:16:29 PM
Does anyone know of a stockist of Tulipa 'Big Smile' a stunning yellow?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Roma on June 14, 2013, 10:06:29 PM
Tulipa sprengeri

Much better this year.  Last year there was so much rain and wind most of them got botrytis and did not look good.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on June 17, 2013, 07:51:52 AM
Does anyone know of a stockist of Tulipa 'Big Smile' a stunning yellow?

I have been growing this wonderful tulip for over 10 years. Indeed, it is a stunning one, having sturdy stems and huge blooms. It is an insterpecific hybrid, triploid, cross of SLG 'Mrs. John T. Scheepers' x eichlerii 'Excelsa'. It has a striped sport, called 'Rhapsody of Smiles'. One of its best feautures is high resistance to Tulip Breaking virus.

You can loot at ts photos in my web-site:

http://tulipdatabase.narod.ru/big_smile.html (http://tulipdatabase.narod.ru/big_smile.html)

Cheers
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on August 28, 2013, 08:13:44 AM
Tulipa cretica is just waking up!
Hopefully they'll open with a bit of sun later in the week,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 02, 2013, 04:13:32 AM
Fully awake now!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: FrazerHenderson on September 02, 2013, 08:52:20 PM
Almost as beautiful as the natural flower: an exquisite backgammon board made by the Turquoise Mountain workshop in Kabul. The wood has been inlaid with other woods and semi-precious stones such as lapis lazuli to replicate (stylized) tulips.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 03, 2013, 08:45:15 AM
Frazer
they're exquiste - almost wish I could get interested in backgammon! ;D

here's a real tulip in flower in the rock garden,
Tulipa aitchisonii ssp clusioides, AKA Tulipa clusiana "dwarf form"
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on September 03, 2013, 11:28:20 AM
Fully awake now!
cheers
fermi

A glorious clump, Fermi !
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 10, 2013, 12:52:48 AM
A glorious clump, Fermi !
Thanks, Luc,
here are a few more tulips in the garden
Tulipa bakeri 'Lilac Wonder' x2
Only different from Tulipa saxatilis by its less invasive habit!
Tulipa stapfii x 2

cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 10, 2013, 08:07:46 AM
Tulipa tschimganica from Otto,
buds of Tulipa clusiana x2
Tulipa "the First" or 'Ancilla' - label lost by burrowing echidna >:(
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Armin on September 10, 2013, 09:54:05 AM
Fermi,
you have a fine collection of tulips - like the image of T. saxatilis.
It is one of the a very robust species for me without the need of annual lifting.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on September 10, 2013, 09:15:21 PM
The Open Eye Gallery has an exhibition of  the suite of eight tulip prints from the portfolio Tulips and Tulipomania by Rory McEwen (1932-1982).


From the website :  "The volume of the same title by Wilfrid Blunt featuring 16 colour plates of paintings by McEwen, of tulips grown by members of the Wakefield and North of England Tulip Society, will also be available to view.

The large format plates shown in this exhibition were printed in 1976 and are all individually signed by McEwen.  Wilfrid Blunt stated he was “perhaps the most gifted artist to pass through my hands”.  His ‘plant portraits’ are exquisite botanical recordings, combining science and art.

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 Tulips : Bessie, Columbine, Habit de Noce, James Wild
            Julia Farnese, Mable, Helen Josephine, Sam Barlow - larger pix are available on the Open Eye website.

Rory McEwen was born in Scotland, and studied at Eton College and Cambridge University.  As well as a floral painter, he was a talented and influential folk musician.  McEwen’s mother Bridget Mary was the granddaughter of John Lindley, the botanist and illustrator who saved the Royal Botanic Gardens at Kew from demolition in 1840.  A major exhibition of McEwen’s works, The Colours of Reality runs this year at the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew".
http://www.kew.org/about-kew/press-media/press-releases-kew/rory-mcewen-the-colours-of-reality.htm (http://www.kew.org/about-kew/press-media/press-releases-kew/rory-mcewen-the-colours-of-reality.htm)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 16, 2013, 12:29:07 PM
Just stumbled across this! Anyone know more?

http://www.tulipessauvages.org/english_version/news/tulipa_norvegica_lieser_2011.htm (http://www.tulipessauvages.org/english_version/news/tulipa_norvegica_lieser_2011.htm)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on September 16, 2013, 05:11:49 PM
This may be of interest, :
http://www.skogoglandskap.no/filearchive/blyttia_201301tulipanorwegica.pdf (http://www.skogoglandskap.no/filearchive/blyttia_201301tulipanorwegica.pdf)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 16, 2013, 05:38:54 PM
Thanks! Kurt Vickery is on the case!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on September 18, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
This may be of interest, :
http://www.skogoglandskap.no/filearchive/blyttia_201301tulipanorwegica.pdf (http://www.skogoglandskap.no/filearchive/blyttia_201301tulipanorwegica.pdf)

Ralph, Maggi,

Thanks for the link. It was very interesting for me and I studied the articles very carefully.
I should add that this tulip doesn't grow only in Norway. It survived in many gardens of the villages in Western Ukraine. I have a friend (tulip fellow) there and we always exchange pictures. He always visits the gardens of nearest to him villages and photographs the old tulips which survived from old times and grow without lifting for many years. They all behave like neo-tulips. Many such type of tulips survived in our local gardens in Armenia as well. Currently I grow over 25 neotulip-like domestic varieties, which are all very late bloomers and don't require lifting at all. They can grow without care even for 100 years, they don't produce seeds as well. I show one of the pictures of my Ukrainian friend, which he took this spring. It closely resembles tulipa norvegica. I am almost certain it is the same tulip.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on September 18, 2013, 09:39:21 PM
some more pix of ancient tulips my friend photographed this year in local gardens
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on September 18, 2013, 09:46:12 PM
Hello Zhirair,
 I thought you would be able to comment on this matter.

Your friend's photos show some very robust  tulips- how wonderful that they are so long-lived.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on September 18, 2013, 10:06:28 PM
more with interesting coloration
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: annew on September 18, 2013, 11:08:11 PM
They are very beautiful, and remarkably strong - do any nurseries sell them?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 23, 2013, 12:08:53 AM
Flowering this week in the rock garden,
Tulipa albertii/vvedenskyi with Tulipa eichleri in the background,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 30, 2013, 01:16:53 AM
This is the best flowering we've had on Tulipa aucheriana,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 02, 2013, 08:07:31 AM
Tulipa whitallii, which is "running" through part of the rock garden, but only setting one or two blooms! It may need to be "coralled"!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 04, 2013, 02:52:29 AM
This is the tulip which has been in the trade in Australia for ages as T. hageri but Mark McD identified it as the hybrid between T.hageri and T. humilis, 'Little Princess', I think,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on October 04, 2013, 06:17:46 AM
They are very beautiful, and remarkably strong - do any nurseries sell them?

Anne,

Unfortunately, they are not offered in sale at all. The ones, I've shown, I am not sure are preserved even in Holland.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 04, 2013, 08:50:17 AM
Zhirair,
you need to avert your eyes as you won't like the pic I'm about to post! :o
This was a plain red lily-flowered tulip, I think, but it hasn't flowered for a couple of years; this year it has opened looking like something out of a Dutch Master's painting!
 A shame it has become virused as I really like the lily-flowered tulips!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on October 04, 2013, 06:43:19 PM
Fermi,

It means that you have virus in your garden. You should think of a source and destroy it.  Besides, you should avoid removing weeds during vegetation in tulip beds, as this is very often a reason of spreading virus mechanically. Weeds should be removed in autumn or in early spring when the spouts start to appear.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 07, 2013, 12:13:53 AM
Thanks for the advice, Zhirair, fortunately this one is not close to other tulips.
Some good news, now.
I got this tulip more than 10 years ago and it has finally flowered again!
I got it as  Tulipa hageri "Splendens" and it certainly is splendid to have it bloom again; it multiplies well but previously the buds have aborting before opening, so this year must've seen all its requirements met.
It's growing through a carpet of Oxalis flava!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Boyed on October 07, 2013, 03:09:00 PM
Thanks for the advice, Zhirair, fortunately this one is not close to other tulips.

Fermi,

It doesn't that much matter that if it grows far from other tulips or not. I meant that main virus preaders are rather we humans (our hands, instruments and shoes) than insects, during working in the garden (removing weeds and touching the plants and making mechanical damages), by stepping accidentally on the plants leaves, etc.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 08, 2013, 07:31:56 AM
A couple of forms of Tulipa linifolia seen at our Rock Garden Group at FCHS on the weekend,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 08, 2013, 12:18:46 PM
Re: Tulipa saracenica/sarracenica, one of the Neo-tulipae from Savoy. Which is correct? Prudhomme (Etude des tulipes de France et de Suisse, Société linnéenne de Lyon, 1996) has T. sarracenica, as does Wilford (Tulips, Timber Press, 2006). The International Plant Names Index (IPNI) has T. saracenica (http://www.ipni.org/ipni/advPlantNameSearch.do?find_family=&find_genus=tulipa&find_species=saracenica&find_infrafamily=&find_infragenus=&find_infraspecies=&find_authorAbbrev=&find_includePublicationAuthors=on&find_includePublicationAuthors=off&find_includeBasionymAuthors=on&find_includeBasionymAuthors=off&find_publicationTitle=&find_isAPNIRecord=on&find_isAPNIRecord=false&find_isGCIRecord=on&find_isGCIRecord=false&find_isIKRecord=on&find_isIKRecord=false&find_rankToReturn=all&output_format=normal&find_sortByFamily=on&find_sortByFamily=off&query_type=by_query&back_page=plantsearch (http://www.ipni.org/ipni/advPlantNameSearch.do?find_family=&find_genus=tulipa&find_species=saracenica&find_infrafamily=&find_infragenus=&find_infraspecies=&find_authorAbbrev=&find_includePublicationAuthors=on&find_includePublicationAuthors=off&find_includeBasionymAuthors=on&find_includeBasionymAuthors=off&find_publicationTitle=&find_isAPNIRecord=on&find_isAPNIRecord=false&find_isGCIRecord=on&find_isGCIRecord=false&find_isIKRecord=on&find_isIKRecord=false&find_rankToReturn=all&output_format=normal&find_sortByFamily=on&find_sortByFamily=off&query_type=by_query&back_page=plantsearch)) as does eMonocot (http://www.emonocot.org/taxon/urn:kew.org:wcs:taxon:289626 (http://www.emonocot.org/taxon/urn:kew.org:wcs:taxon:289626)). If it means The Saracen's Tulip it should be one "r". So T. saracenica it is?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on October 08, 2013, 01:06:16 PM
An interesting point, Ralph - but this  tulip, found in Savoie and described originallyby a French botanist (Perrier)  leads to the conclusion that the Saracen connection comes from the french 'Sarrazin' rather than the English 'Saracen'   ( - in the same way as the genus Sarracenia comes from Michel Sarrazin, an early 18th century Quebec botanist and surgeo).

It seems that IPNI and the  KEW  Plant List prefer the anglicised version!

Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on October 08, 2013, 01:32:43 PM
Yes, but it seems Perrier published it as Tulipa saracenica, (Bulletin de l'Herbier Boissier Ser. II. 5: 507. 1905)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on October 08, 2013, 02:01:33 PM
Yes, that's my point - he will have been familiar with Sarrazin but seems to have gone down the anglicised route- since he was surely familiar with the likely preference from the authorities!

For the genus sarracenia they stuck with the name of the person  - not that they always do!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: fermi de Sousa on October 14, 2013, 07:30:06 AM
Our last tulip for the season, I think; we got this from Marcus Harvey as Tulipa aff sprengeri
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on October 14, 2013, 07:49:00 AM
A striking brick red, Fermi !!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: BULBISSIME on November 14, 2013, 09:57:48 PM
Yes, but it seems Perrier published it as Tulipa saracenica, (Bulletin de l'Herbier Boissier Ser. II. 5: 507. 1905)

I confirm : Tulipa saracenica Perrier
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 26, 2013, 05:30:17 PM
Right, that's all the Tulips planted!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on November 26, 2013, 06:04:39 PM
Just the fifty pots, Ralph  ?  - cutting back are you?  ;D ;)

Thanks for the Aesculus seed picture , by the way  8)
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 26, 2013, 08:15:03 PM
You actually counted them? Actually there are as many again under the plastic tunnel to the right!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 26, 2013, 08:23:11 PM
Long awaited monograph has arrived - some serious reading now required!
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 29, 2013, 07:16:46 PM
it's Tulipa edulis (Miq.) Baker rather..... ::)

Looks like we will have to get used to calling it Amana edulis again, acording to the latest research (Christenhusz et al, 2013): they say that Amana, Erythronium and Tulipa form a closely related group and Amana is distinct from Tulipa.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: Margaret on November 29, 2013, 10:17:36 PM

Ralph, I'm curious (and very Impressed) by all those pots of tulips because I can't see any labels. Have you got a clever system or are they all the same?
Title: Re: Tulipa 2013
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on November 30, 2013, 12:33:47 PM
No clever system. They're all labelled!
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