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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Lesley Cox on January 21, 2013, 02:40:17 AM
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I can't see anything more recent than Lilium 2012 so here we go with this year's batch.
Could anyone please give me some idea of what this lily may be? I expect it is a hybrid of some kind but I have no recollection of its origins and certainly didn't buy it, but probably grew it from seed. The label just says Lilium ?
The second bud, to the lower right looks as if it may be paler, closer to white but maybe with yellow tips. No, I just had another look and it's pretty much the same now it's beginning to open. There's no perfume at all.
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No Idea Lesley
looks as a hybrid
you have a lot of dormant bulbs in the moment
is it because of the high temperatures ??
Roland
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It's because it's high summer Roland. One month past the solstice and day time temps where I live of around 18C or as high as 32C. We've had a lot of rain this summer too.
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I calculated wrong
Logic most are dormant
Roland
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Very true. Some lilies, arisaemas, the tall hybrid gladiolus, galtonias, zantededchias and like things are in bloom. Eucomis just starting for me. No sign of autumn crocuses or Cyclamen hederifolium yet, though some Narcissus species seeds are germinating. Spring seems a long way off.
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It seems to be in the group 'Trumpet'.
and I think it is close to Lilium "African Queen"
Dick
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Hello Dick, welcome to the Forum!
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Thanks maggi,
This is the first time for me to chat in English forum(I come from Hong Kong)
And this is my first flower in 2013
Lilium japonicum on 2013-01-14
Dick
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Welcome here too Dick
Internet connects the whole world
I am now also in Chile and Bangkok on the forum
This way you make friends all over the world
and yo learn a lot
But this is one of the best fora :D
Roland
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Thank you Roland
My lilium rubellum have opened in these few day
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Hi Dick,welcome,nice first post to the forum --that is a very beautiful L. japonicum and rubellum you posted.
Is that by any chance a white rubellum just opening?I haven't seen white rubellum, but know it exists.If so, do you have any seed to spare and while I'm so bold, do you by any chance have any Lilium speciosum gloriosoides seed? I may have lilium seed that you need?
Tell us please what other plants you grow, especially lilium.
This is one of my japonicum flowing this past year, under an apple tree.
Regards
Paul R
AUSTRALIA
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Hi Dick,welcome,nice first post to the forum --that is a very beautiful L. japonicum and rubellum you posted.
Is that by any chance a white rubellum just opening?I haven't seen white rubellum, but know it exists.If so, do you have any seed to spare and while I'm so bold, do you by any chance have any Lilium speciosum gloriosoides seed? I may have lilium seed that you need?
Tell us please what other plants you grow, especially lilium.
This is one of my japonicum flowing this past year, under an apple tree.
Regards
Paul R
AUSTRALIA
Hi Paul
what a nice L. japonicum and it looks very big.
I know that there are some white rubellum in Japan but I haven't kept anyone of them.
The "white rubellum" in my picture was soft pink in fact, it just turn to white by flowered for few days already.
I can see my Lilium speciosum var. gloriosoides (Taiwanese form) have already grow some buds.
And they are going to flower in the coming few months.
the first photo is my Lilium speciosum var. gloriosoides's buds.
and the second photo is the "white rubellum" which is taken in the first flowering day. It is soft pink.
Dick
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Lilium pyrenaicum start flowering here
Roland
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My best stem of L. mackliniae so far. Six flowers:
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Everything here is very early because of several weeks of hot, sunny, dry weather in early May.
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I got some Nomocharis farrerii seed in 2010 from the NARGS seed exchange and they flowered this May for the first time.
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Lilium speciosum var. punctatum
a beautiful soft pink
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I got some Nomocharis farrerii seed in 2010 from the NARGS seed exchange and they flowered this May for the first time.
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1218/5581325/21933613/406817109.jpg)
Peppa - You must be pleased as punch! It's spectacular as is flowering it in 2+ years.
johnw
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What a beautiful Nomocharis. I've got some N farreri seedlings in a pot and can just dream of them looking like this one.
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Thanks John and Liz for your nice comments! I was planning to take my Nomocharis to our local chapter meeting for 'Show and tell', but the timing didn't work out, so I'm glad I can show it here! :D
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Here is a lovely Lilium macklinae grown from Margaret and Henry Taylor's seed of Tantallon. Their own cross of the more usual L. macklinae and the new darker form 'Nagaland'. I am not sure if the seed was from the origional Tantallon or if they remake the cross every time. Will ask them tomorrow when we have a garden visit to their very special garden.
They are very generous with their seed and plants and I know they have given away a lot of this cross so perhaps some other lucky forumists may have it.
Susan
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One from my balcony before I left, hopefully it'll still be alive when I go back tomorrow... ???
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Very nice - what is it?
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Oops, in the middle of packing up and bit absent-minded... Lilium bakerianum :)
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Thanks, I did wonder if it might be that - lovely dark form.
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Yeh
Fantastic colour
and that on a balcony :o
Roland
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here are some pics from a Lilium spec. ...I have collect the seeds before many years in the moutains of Corsica
Maybe relatet with L.bulbiferum ?
Any ideas ?
Thank you in advance
Hans
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Looks as L. bulbiferum ssp. croceum (no bulbils)
Roland
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Thank you Roland :D
I think you are right with L. bulbiferum ssp. croceum
Hans
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if you have some day some young bulbs left over
I am interested
Roland
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Roland ,
I pollinate in this time those plants ...I could send you later seeds if you are interestet
Hans
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Yes Please
I see Renate in two weeks for your bulbs
R
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OK Roland ;D
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Lilium martagon var. albiflorum, white with little pink spots 8). i have sandy, humus soil here in my garden, very bad for martagon. for this martagon, i tried a substrate with bentonit, grit + humus, mixed in a mortar mixer till pills came out which stay quite stable in the soil. the martagon needed a few years to establish but this year they show their beauty.
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Lilium auratum
One of my favourite lily.
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Lilium formosanum
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Lilium leichtlinii
Beautiful Yellow
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Lilium sargentiae
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Lilium speciosum var. gloriosoides (Taiwanese form)
I think it would bloom in 2~3weeks. ;D
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Hello,
This Lilium has flowered very briefly due to the recent heat wave. It has been supplied as Lilium HANSONII.
Petals are somewhat "thick"and it has leaves in whorls.
Is the identification correct?
Thanks for your help
JP
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I don't have much to post for this topic. Here are :
Lilium CERNUUM
Lilium PUMILUM
JP
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Lilium Lost label just 40 cm tall
your Hansonii looks correct for me Jean-Patrick
Roland
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@bulborum
seems to be the so called "white cernuum" (very thin leaves, habitus like cernuum). i don't know, whether this is a variety of the cernuum species or a hybridized cultivar.
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Could be that Greenspan
I had that one in my collection
Thanks
Roland
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Nice pure white one
Does it come true from seed ?
Roland
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Yes
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my bulbiferum and bulbiferum croecum are doing well, most have flowered, even the small bulbs, and I am getting it seems quite a few good sized bulbils so if you want some Roland, I can gladly swap with you :)
Pontus
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just bulbiferum croceum Pontus
I line up for some seeds Hakone
Lilium columbianum I collected in BC start flowering here
there will be seeds later this year
Roland
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First bloom bought as Lilium auratum, but obviously not. Any ideas what it is? Probably some hybrid?
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to mee it looks like a sideways facing asiatic hybrid....
where the bulbs white in colour?
almost as far away from auratum as you could get!
it reminds me of an old Chris North hybrid....but they are rare nowadays....if i find the exact hybrid name i can post it here...
Pontus
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Kind of disappointing when you buy mislabeled plants. I am still waiting for the lilium speciosum and speciosum album to bloom from the same company to see if they are correct.
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speciosum album has a deep purple bulb while speciosum is more light pink, like a typical oriental bulb.
if they are true, they will usually not start blooming before mid august at the earliest.
yes it is dissapointing...i bought a rare itoh paeony 3 years ago, and whaited patiently for 3 years for the first flowers...and when it flowered this year, it turned out mislabelled!
I also whaited 2 years to see flowers on my crinum x ellen bosanquet bulbs..again, only to find out they where mislabelled also!
Pontus
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This Lilium martagon 'Early Bird' is nearly 2 m high !
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Better to call it a martagon hybrid Luc
I think all those new colours in martagon are hybrids :o
Roland
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i'm quite sure that sorts like the 'Early Bird' are crosses between martagon x hansonii, so called "marhan"-hybrids. but i don't know which one of the species was the female or male part.
here some martagon types from the wild (a forest in nothern bavaria, south germany; heavy clay + lime soil). there were many types...from totally white to quite dark (but no cattaniae- or albiflorum variety), unspotted to heavy spotted. the heavy spotted were the types, i was looking for (took some scales):
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A nice selection of spotty martagons, Greenspan. The Lilium martagon in my garden are just beginning to open. I started with only cattaniae and the white one. They have been self seeding all over the garden and I now have all shades of pink and red as well.
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Nice collection Greenspan
I hope you post a few more pictures
Roland
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martagon did their job this year. ;D ;) unfortunately i lost my var. cattaniae...here an elder foto. if anybody has bulbs of such a fine type, i ask for a swap.
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new flowers on my Lilium spec. from Corsica are open today
first time a real yellow flower :o
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Beauty Hans
I hope it stays stable
Roland
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Hello greenspan
I have a cattanniae hybrid which is almost identical to cattaniaae, called black prince if you want to do a swap. I will upload images here in 10 days when I am back home again :)
Pontus
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@hans j
the only wild lily i found to be native in corsica should be Lilium bulbiferum (var. croceum?). but i never saw a complete yellow form. could it be an asiatic hybrid, escaped from garden?
@pontus
thx for your kind offer. :) the martagon hybrid 'Dark Prince' looks great, but i only cultivate true species. i grow some cattaniae seedlings, but it will last some years till i'll see whether they are true cattaniae. so i'm looking to get adult bulbs to shorten the time, as i'm so impatient. ;D
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If someone is interested in these Lilium Mid-century hybrid's just let me know. In short time I will remove them as I will make a new rock garden bed there.
It is a very easy and vigorous hybrid which comes from my dads garden many years ago. It multiplies very well but does not set seed.
Poul
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Hello Poul,
If you have a few flowering sized bulbs to spare in the autumn, that would be nice, as I can use them for my project which i begun a few years ago trying to maintain, grow and save the old asiatic hybrids before they dissapear. This one is quite similar to the very nice enchantement which i have not yet found, as i believe it is sadly no longer in cultivation, but this mid century hybrid also looks very nice.
What would you like in exchange?
Pontus
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@hans j
the only wild lily i found to be native in corsica should be Lilium bulbiferum (var. croceum?). but i never saw a complete yellow form. could it be an asiatic hybrid, escaped from garden?
Hello Greenspan ,
I have collect those seeds in the mountains ( in the middle of nowhere ) -there was no village near of this place .
After sowing in a pot I have moved those seedlings in a trough ...thats more or less the only Lilium ( except L.candidum + L.pyrenaicum )- my garden is not suitet for Lilium but this plants from Corsica grows well.
I agree that this L. bulbiferum forma croceum ...because it has not any bulbils
Hans
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Hello Poul,
If you have a few flowering sized bulbs to spare in the autumn, that would be nice, as I can use them for my project which i begun a few years ago trying to maintain, grow and save the old asiatic hybrids before they dissapear. This one is quite similar to the very nice enchantement which i have not yet found, as i believe it is sadly no longer in cultivation, but this mid century hybrid also looks very nice.
What would you like in exchange?
Pontus
Hi Pontus,
It is an interesting project and I will be happy to send you some flowering size bulbs later. Until now my interest is mainly bulbs, but for my new rock garden I could use some alpine plants/cuttings (in that field I am a newbie)
Poul
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@hans j
the only wild lily i found to be native in corsica should be Lilium bulbiferum (var. croceum?). but i never saw a complete yellow form. could it be an asiatic hybrid, escaped from garden?
@pontus
thx for your kind offer. :) the martagon hybrid 'Dark Prince' looks great, but i only cultivate true species. i grow some cattaniae seedlings, but it will last some years till i'll see whether they are true cattaniae. so i'm looking to get adult bulbs to shorten the time, as i'm so impatient. ;D
Nearly all the Eurasian orange lilies have yellow forms so why not bulbiferum? It must be very rare though.
I grow v. Cattaniae but it does not have quite the flower shape of your pic. It is more "standard martagon shape". You can have a small bulb sometime in July.
Remind me in mid-July and give me your address.
Göte
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@göte
thx for your very kind offer. my photo showed the beginning of flowering + a bit later, the flower turned to the "standard martagon shape". i'll send you a message in july. 8)
yes, yellow varieties occur, but i never saw this in bulbiferum. also no hit by g**gle-picture-search. that's why my guess for a garden haybrid. but in fact as hans wrote it was in the middle of nowhere + beside the colour the flower shape is like bulbiferum. i guess the rest of the plant too.
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@ Greenspan :
I have just received a answer from a friend:
"Croceum is from latin and means: of the colour of saffron"
please look in G**gle for "Safrangelb" ...thats right !
Hans
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there is a yellowish variety of lilium wilsonii....but it grows in Japan....so i doubt that is what it is...I had never either seen a yellowish variety of bulbiferum...although i did once see a magnificient deep red variety...a single flower amonghst a population of about 60 plants in the south of Switzerland
Pontus
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Hello,
Here are better pictures of my lilium PUMILUM
JP
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Just a couple of Martagon, the pink is a first timer for me.
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Martagon lilies are coming into flower now
I notice some have only a few hairs on the buds and others are very hairy
Lilium martagon
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Lilium lijiangense from Susan Band
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@oleg
i had the lijiangense a few years, then i lost it. hardiness wasn't the problem i guess. i have some seedlings, planted in the garden, but they won't grow. only a leaf comes up the last 2 years (of course, i feed them). i have my problems with this lily. :P oleg, please describe the soil and growing conditions (sunny, semi shade?). you seem successful with this lily. 8)
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Martagon lilies are coming into flower now
I notice some have only a few hairs on the buds and others are very hairy
Lilium martagon
it's a normal behaviour of martagon to produce glabrous to hairy buds, even within the same population. but here in my area, i've never seen types with such hairy buds. they are looking great. 8)
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I have had this lily since 2009. No problems so far. It is grown on a raised bed in semi shade (that is rather sunny in spring but semi shaded later in the season. Cold winter doesn't seem to be a problem as it has survived 4 different winters, with one exceptionally cold without a good layer of snow. I have never checked the soil Ph, but it is supposed to be rather acid. Good drainage, mixture of grit, compost and garden soil, with leaf mould added every second year. No fertilizers. Other plants grow under it rather tightly without any harm to the lily. Liliuokalani martagon thrives nearby. For me it is a very reliable plant (unlike other lilies). But it never multiplies or sets seed.
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thx oleg, helpful hints. :) i guess i have nearly the same conditions in my garden like you describe. maybe i dig the small bulbs out + try to grow them in a pot for a while. maybe they grow faster then under more controlled conditions.
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I have had a nice lijianagense since 2009, still looking ok although not really increasing in size
i grow mine in half shade witth my woodland plants, in a mix of slightly acid and slighty alkaline soil, a few pine needles and orchid mix and perlite to make it very well drained as lijianagense can easilly rot...
it resents above all winter wet, so you can put a cloche or similar over the bulb from november to march, to keep it drier...¨
my bulb was originally small, but 2 years later it was huge, i like this lily very much also, so i try my best to keep it alive!!
Pontus
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I have had a nice lijianagense since 2009, still looking ok although not really increasing in size
i grow mine in half shade witth my woodland plants, in a mix of slightly acid and slighty alkaline soil, a few pine needles and orchid mix and perlite to make it very well drained as lijianagense can easilly rot...
it resents above all winter wet, so you can put a cloche or similar over the bulb from november to march, to keep it drier...¨
my bulb was originally small, but 2 years later it was huge, i like this lily very much also, so i try my best to keep it alive!!
Pontus
I find L. lijianagense grows anywhere l. henryi grows. It is nice that such a nice lily can grow for me in Midwest clay prairie soil in both raised beds and in at grade beds.
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Some of the American Lilies are starting to flower here at the moment.
Lilium rubescens and Lilium kelloggii
Grown outside in a gritty bed. I hope I get some good seed this year, last year was so wet it just rotted
Susan
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Lilium lijiangense:
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I grow them in a tomato cage, since the stems are weak. Full sun, raised bed of sandy loam soil, a little fertilizer and water in Summer, very, very wet in Winter. I believe this is their fourth year. Time to space them out a little, eh?
I think these are very close to L. henryi, except that they bloom much earlier. The only problem I have had with these is that the bulbs will rot if the soil is too wet and warm in late Summer. This is true of many lily species. Mulch to keep the soil cool, grow companion plants to shade the soil and remove moisture, don't irrigate in late Summer.
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Lilium cernuum:
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Lilium parryi:
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Lilium hansoni:
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Lilium kelloggii white form:
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Lilium leichtlinii v. maximowiczii:
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Lilium lankongense:
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Lilium parryi:
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Lilium taliense kaichen (maybe):
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Lilium duchartrei:
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Lilium cernuum double:
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Lilium leichtlinii 'Iwashimizu':
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Lilium canadense:
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My best stem of Lilium canadense this year:
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Gene
you grow all the goodies
Excellent work
Rimmer
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Gene,
Stunning lilies! Iam very impressed! Lilium parryi is cutty!
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Lilium michiganense:
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Lilium canadense, a nice red form:
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Lilium bakerianum v. delayayi, with three flowers:
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Sadly, no pollen partner for the bakerianum this year, so I don't know if it will set seed.
I grew these from seed labelled Lilium sulphureum:
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But they bloom much too early, and don't make stem bulbils. I think they are regale album. Any opinions?
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Lilium maritimum:
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Lilium
I grew these from seed labelled Lilium sulphureum:
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But they bloom much too early, and don't make stem bulbils. I think they are regale album. Any opinions?
Gene are the leaves and stem scabrous ? The scabrous stem and leaves is typical for L regale
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Gene:
Looks to be L. regale.
L. sulphereum has a longer trumpet shape when compare to others. Lack of stem bulbils is also a key factor for ID.
Any scent?
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Some western USA species:
Lilium shastense:
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Lilium pitkinense, from old Robinett seed:
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Lilium wigginsi, with Crocosmia 'Lucifer' in background:
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Lilium columbianum:
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Lilium kelloggii:
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From earlier in the season (sorry if I already posted these):
Lilium mackliniae, first lily to bloom this year:
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Lilium pyrenaicum, very slow from seed:
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Lilium mackliniae dark form (note the effect of the backlighting from the setting sun):
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Lilium bulbiferum croceum:
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Lilium martagon album, Lilium mackliniae dark form, Nomocharis pardanthina (?):
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Lilium speciosum var. gloriosoides (Taiwanese form)
The first gloriosoides in this year.
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Re lijiangense.
I agree that it must be frost hardy, I have grown it unprotected for some six years. I also grow in semi-shade in acid humusy soil. The site is sloping so there is no stagnant water. One rised from seed growing in non-sloping situation died after flowering once. Lijiangense seems to be self-fertile. It does not like being moved - maybe I did it in the wrong season.
Göte
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Re lijiangense
... It does not like being moved...
interesting...after removing mine, i lost them, means they didn't appear the following year.
@dick cheung
wonderful gloriosoides 8) ...i hope my gloriosoides (from china) show their flowers this year. they are producing buds but are far away from flowering (photo from mid of june)
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My one remaining plant of Lilium regale from a batch of seed sown quite a few years ago now.
I have a batch of plants sown from Exchange seed in 2009 described as L. martagon nearing flowering that I have lovingly tended since sowing but they look in bud remarkably like L. regale. All will be revealed in the next few days.
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Lilium henryi - in flower now in my garden - is quite common but nevertheless a great plant and a great performer en masse...especially if one is not so lucky to garden in a cooler climate and doesn't have a nice&soft acidic soil!
My L. henryi grow in poor dry & stony calcareous soil in a quite hot position...if the base is in shade they can also take full sun (I mean Mediterranean sun). It is a very useful summer flowering species for southern gardens (shame that there is no scent)...much more generous longer lasting and undemanding than L. candidum that it is always somehow tricky to grow...flowers at the beginning of June and lasts only a week!.
M.
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mine in flower at the moment
Lilium tsingtauense grown from scales sent to me by Martin Baxendale
Lilium martagon ssp cataniae from Mt Falackro in Greece
Lilium martagon from Mt Voros (Kymachalan) in Greece
Lilium hansonii
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I have a batch of plants sown from Exchange seed in 2009 described as L. martagon nearing flowering that I have lovingly tended since sowing but they look in bud remarkably like L. regale. All will be revealed in the next few days.
Ah, mystery solved. A bit of wrong label in wrong pot, it's actually Lilium brownii, pics tomorrow.
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Extraordinary to see so many wonderful species in one go, especially from Gene! Hardly any grow well in our summer dry garden except for L. candidum (grown from seed from Jim Archibald) and L. chalcedonicum. I must persevere with some of the west coast Americans. We were just thinking of inviting a speaker on the genus to our Group - any suggestions? Harris Howland lives not too far away but I think may have a greater interest in hybrids rather than species.
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"Summer dry garden" sounds perfect for the NW USA species.
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Ah, mystery solved. A bit of wrong label in wrong pot, it's actually Lilium brownii, pics tomorrow.
Having looked at them to my uneducated eye they are Lilium regale. Far too hot to do anything today, thermometer on outside of greenhouse reading a little over 33C (92F) mid-afternoon but will try to get pictures tomorrow. Am now resolved never too complain again about drizzly rainy summer days! :P
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And you put the shading on your greenhouse,too. I didn't do mine after what happened last year and am regretting it now but I keep thinking this can't last ;D
I have about 30 pics of Lilium martagon and am trying to decide which to show :-\
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A little cooler today, didn't get much more than 28C (82F)! Primulas in the greenhouse surviving well under quite a few layers of fleece. Same can't be said for miscellaneous seedlings that, although under the bench and covered with a few pages of newspaper, have crisped to dust, apart from a couple of dozen Lewisia cotyledon seedlings which cling on to life. Was going to give the Exchanges a miss this year, but not now.
Ah well, back to Lilium regale masquerading as L. brownii, under the wrong label as L. martagon! Here are three pics of the plants I've grown from Exchange seed as L. brownii. They certainly bear a strong similarity to my L. regale but I'm no Lilium expert. Would welcome views please.
First pic-flower head
Second pic-as above but side view
Third pic-leaf and stem
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Two more flowering
Lilium amoenum
Lilium Red Russia
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Hello David,
your mystery lilium is defenitely regale, brownii tends to flower later and has quite short scattered leaves and above all, a white bulb, while regale has a purple bulb.
the scet in regale is fabulous and unforgettable, while the brownii scent is hmmm...a bit less so...brownii i find is also not very long lived, while regale is.
I am enjoying my big clump of regale now and will try to post some images tonight or tomorrow....my tallest specimen in now 2 meters tall with 20 flowers, with a stem as thick as a bamboo cane!
Pontus
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Hello David
I think your flower is regale
My brownii is blooming now
there are some photos for you
some brownii would be a bit yellow in the first day, but it would turn to white in color in the second day
these photos were taken in the first day
Dick
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Is anyone growing Lilium hybrids from the SRGC 2009/2010 list, donated by Ray McNamara from New Zealand?
I now have 13 bulbs one of which flowered last year and 11 are flowering or going to flower this year.
No 2 flowered on the 12th and No's 3 and 4 on the 15th
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No 3 has a huge flower
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I think No 4 has an elegant shape. It has brown pollen.
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I don't grow those Roma, but today noticed this one, I have it labelled as Lilium canadense.
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Thank you Dick and Pontus for your confirmation of my Lilium regale. As far as scent is concerned I think I have a malfunction in the olfactory department, I can't detect a scent at all ;D
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my main clummp of lilium regale by the garden entrance, with the tallest stem being almost 2 meters tall, and martagon hybrid theodor haber by the front door, as well as martagon hybrid black prince and lilium lankongense.
Pontus
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Lovely regale Pontus. Of the plant I have had the longest I've never had more than one flower on it and my newer ones (masquerading as brownii!) and flowering for the first time have only one flower per stem.
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Two more flowering
Lilium amoenum
Lilium Red Russia
Wonderful lilies, everybody! I enjoyed looking at the beautiful flowers. I especially drooled over Tony's L. amoenum!
I just got the first flowers from L. fargesii seed and am very excited about it. :D It's hard to tell from the pictures but the flowers are quite small.
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1218/5581325/21933613/407222226.jpg)
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1218/5581325/21933613/407222227.jpg)
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1218/5581325/21933613/407222228.jpg)
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Last night a few of us visited a lady nearby who is collecting the Lilies breed by Dr Chris North who worked the Invergowrie plant research station.
These lovely liles were bred with the aim for producing Lilies particularly suitable for Scotland. They were unfortunatly never taken up by any commercial producer and are now really hard to find. She has managed to find a remarkable amount of them but is still looking for a few elusive few.
Here are some examples:
Lilium Pan
Lilium Ariadna
Lilium Minos
Lilium Eileen
Susan
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i have problems to identify true Lilium regale. as far as i know, regale flowers are arranged in an umbel, the leaves should be very narrow, just like gras leaves. here an illustration in flora of china (http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=60686&flora_id=2) (the right one) + here a photo of a native location (http://www.the-genus-lilium.com/images/Lilium/regale10.jpg) (seems so).
at least one of pontus regale on his photo above (the tallest one) (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10022.0;attach=408119;image) looks like flowering in a panicle. the leaves are too broad...my perception. could they be hybridized?
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Hello Greenspan,
Yes, I have had this feeling for quite a few years about this particular specimen, in fact, I was about to post a post about it with comparative pictures of leaves and stem, as this particular plant is always much taller and much more vigorous than the other regale in the clump, the leaves are dark green and almost 2 cm's wide, while, as you say, usual regale leaves are very thin...almost grasslike.
The flowers are also very slightly different...slightly smaller than usual regale, but have the same unmistakable scent...
I am starting to think that it could almost be a Sir Peter Smithers hybrid.....could there be leucanthum centifolium in the breeding? As it flowers at the same time to the other regale that would be a bit strange...as leucanthum is much later flowering...
any ideas on this mystery lilly?
i will post a few more pictures of it when i return home again on friday
Pontus
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Last night a few of us visited a lady nearby who is collecting the Lilies breed by Dr Chris North who worked the Invergowrie plant research station.
These lovely liles were bred with the aim for producing Lilies particularly suitable for Scotland. They were unfortunatly never taken up by any commercial producer and are now really hard to find. She has managed to find a remarkable amount of them but is still looking for a few elusive few.
Here are some examples:
Lilium Pan
Lilium Ariadna
Lilium Minos
Lilium Eileen
Susan
I'm pleased to hear there is someone in Scotland working to collect these lilies together. Well worthwhile - I wish her every success.
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Peppa - That green-flowered L. fargesii is sensational, small or not. I adore green flowers.
johnw
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The fargesii is really super and small is good anyway. But the Scottish forms are lovely too. I bought 3 of one the other day, an Asiatic hybrid, called 'Black Spider. Haven't seen it yet but if the packaging is anything like, it will be a deep cream to yellow, with a centre of black, with lines and dots out-stretching from it. Another, called 'Landine' seems to be almost totally black! I love green flowers too but also black ones. :D
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Hello Peppa,
how long did your fargesii take to flower from seed.
Thanks John.
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A couple of wrongly named/unamed lilies fowering now
two pictures of the first a Lilium bakerianum ssp delavayi which I bought as L. amoenum
second is L42 sp(16) red from Chen yi bought some time ago and flowering for the first time. Ideas on a species name would be helpful. It is40cms tall and has numerous grass like leaves up the stem.
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Hi Tony,
It looks like lilium papilliferum a late lily which produces short stolons about 4-6 inches long, so if you let it free you should eventually have a few young ones.
Susan
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Susan
thank you for that. My only problem is it does not have a single hair but otherwise it seems to fit and looking at pictures on the web it is definitely that.
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Lily auratum/japonicum hybrid:
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Lilium duchartrei:
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Lilium fargesii:
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Lilium canadense:
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Lily sulphureum hybrid:
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Fabulous sulphureum hybrid Gene! :)
let me know if you ever have a spare bulb and may want to do a swap? :)
Here my beloved lilium 'connecticut yankee' (bred in 1959 in the USA by the firm Stone and Payne) is flowering well. It is part of my conservation project of old asiatic hybrids...next to it is lilium connecticut king (1967) in full bloom as well :)
Pontus
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Thanks Johnw and Lesley for your nice comments! :) It was very interesting to see the little green buds open into little green flowers without changing color...
Hello Peppa,
how long did your fargesii take to flower from seed.
Thanks John.
John, it took four years from seed. I am very excited to see the flower because the original plant died after I collected these seeds. Luckily I now have several small seedlings instead of just the one. ;D
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Hello Peppa thanks,
I recieved some Lilium Fargesii seed from the R H S seed exchange last year, I hope mine flower as nice as yours.
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Two slightly different colour forms of Lilium chalcedonicum and a Lilium canadense from Johnw in Nova Scotia
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Lilium formosanum var. pricei.
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I've ben meaning to post pictures of my Martagon lilies for a while but couldnt make up my mind which ones to use. They have gone over very quickly with the hot dry weather.
Lilium martagon
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more
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a few more
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Boskers every one , Roma 8)
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When is the best time to dig them up? I have far too many in places where I don't want them.
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I'd dig them just as the stems are almost dead.
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I have great luck lifting lily bulbs just as they start growing in Spring. They have very few roots then. Don't wait too long though. Don't leave the bulbs out of the ground very long, and cover the bulbs and roots with soil after lifting. Don't let them get too warm or too dry.
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Wow Roma they are amazing martagons..so tall.
cheers
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Thanks, Maggi, Gene. I will try both methods. I'll probably miss a few in the autumn anyway. In some places they are coming up between stones at the edge of a path so I'll need to be in the mood for some rock shifting to get at them.
Stephen, they have grown very well this year. The ground was pretty wet in spring and a fairly warm spell in early summer meant they just kept growing. Unfortunately the last two or three weeks have been very warm (for NE Scotland) and mainly dry so the flowers have gone over quickly.
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Lilium chalcedonicum in flower today, a nice surprise as I hadn't even noticed it was in bud.
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Can you chalcedonicum growers tell me if you give these plants any special treatment? What conditions are they growing in? Thanks.
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Lily Tango Kentucky. Not sure why I bought this, I can't decide if I like it or not.
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Can you chalcedonicum growers tell me if you give these plants any special treatment? What conditions are they growing in? Thanks.
My chalcedonicum are growing in a high raised bed (about 2 to 3 ft) just behind a dry stone wall and at the base of a thick beech hedge, in light woodland type soil. Facing south-west.
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Thanks, Martin. That's an extreme raised bed you've got there. Otherwise, it sounds very similar to the way I grow many of the species.
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When is the best time to dig them up? I have far too many in places where I don't want them.
Martagons are a little like Trillium. They send out new roots at or just after flowering time. If you move them in the fall you will probably be damaging the new roots. If that happens, they will suddenly go bad in the spring when the foliage is so big that it draws more water than the damaged roots can supply. They will survive but there will be no show until the second year after transplanting. I would dig them at flowering time and put the flowering spikes in vases.
Good luck
Göte
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Hi Tony,
It looks like lilium papilliferum a late lily which produces short stolons about 4-6 inches long, so if you let it free you should eventually have a few young ones.
Susan
I think Susan is right. It should have very narrow leaves and the two whorls of tepals curl differently. It is not hairy but you will probably find that at least some surfaces are covered by minute papillae. You will need a lens.
Cheers
Göte
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It [L. papilliferum] should have ... the two whorls of tepals curl differently. It is not hairy but you will probably find that at least some surfaces are covered by minute papillae. You will need a lens.
Cheers
Göte
I would appreciate some insight into what I propose regarding L. papilliferum here:
https://www.nargs.org/comment/23717#comment-23717 (https://www.nargs.org/comment/23717#comment-23717)
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My favourite Lilium - Lilium auratum
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(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/2743/3ikk.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/560/3ikk.jpg/)
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4172/rk6w.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/rk6w.jpg/)
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quote author=Hakone link=topic=10022.msg282205#msg282205 date=1376037539]
Lilium leichtlinii var. maximowiczii Baker 1871
This is Lilium lancifolium Thunberg
Göte
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quote author=Hakone link=topic=10022.msg282205#msg282205 date=1376037539]
Lilium leichtlinii var. maximowiczii Baker 1871
This is Lilium lancifolium Thunberg
Göte
Hmmm, I know little about these beautiful flowers, but I have confirmed from the PBS wiki that L. leichtlinii does not have stem bulbils.
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/LiliumAsiaticSectionThree (http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/LiliumAsiaticSectionThree) - page with L. leichtlinii
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Lilium_lancifolium (http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Lilium_lancifolium)
Lilies are another of the plants often received under the wrong names, aren't they? :'(
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I agree that Hakone's lily is lancifolium. Most lancifolium is the sterile triploid form. If it was grown from seed, or if it sets seed, it is the diploid form. The diploid multiplies like a weed from seeds and stem bulbils, and never shows symptoms of virus, at least in my garden. I'm surprised it isn't more common. It comes in orange and yellow forms.
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I planted these Lilium auratum in this pot a number of years ago. Every autumn I give them a handfull of Blood Fish and Bone, and every August they put on this show. Magic!
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two in flower now
Lilium auratum
Lilium chalcedonicum
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There is a lot of confusion and controversy about these two lilies
Lilium lancifolium was described on Japanese material by Thunberg 1784 and then (presumably on Chinese material) in 1810 by Ker-Gawler as L. tigrinum. Unfortunately Thunberg’s naming was overlooked until fairly recently and the species is still known as “the Tiger Lily”. All forms have black bulbils and the form most common in gardens is triploid and thus sterile. Some triploid strains are reported to be virus infected but look healthy so they pose a danger. Fortunately seeds of the diploid orange forms have been distributed through seed exchanges. Several of the orange coloured Asiatic lilies like LL. amabile, concolor, dauricum etc. have yellow sports. Also L. lancifolium has a yellow sport (Var flaviflorum Makino) which comes true from seed and is very beautiful and easy. There is also a double sport that has been in cultivation in Europe since at least 1870.
A rather similar lily is found in East Asia but it differs in a number of ways (as observed by me in the garden).
The habitus is more slender. The stem runs sideways underground before emerging. The stem is less dark. It is taller. The leaves are narrower, greyer in colour and less glossy. It has no bulbils. Its inflorescence is hairier in the bud stage. The inflorescence is narrower without any branching of pedicels whereas lancifolium pedicels occasionally branch. Lancifolium sometimes has the second bract sitting on the pedicel rather than at the base of the pedicel (All liliums have two bracts to the pedicel but sometimes one of them is halfway up). This lily usually has both bracts at the pedicel base. The flowers are smaller. It is later to flower. All these differences are, each in themselves, not very striking and there may be some variation within both species Not all differences are obvious in all specimen all years. However seen side by side, the difference between the two is very obvious. Also this lily exists as a yellow sport which is rare and not so easy in cultivation.
The naming of this lily is really confused. In 1866 Regel named the orange form: Lilium maximowiczii. Unfortunately, the description was not published until 1888 – but then in two different publications. The yellow form was found in a consignment of other lily bulbs and Hooker named it L. lechtlinii November 1867.
The name psudo-tigrinum was published by Carière for the orange form in the second half of December 1867 thus six weeks later than Hooker’s publication of the yellow form. The diagnosis is in French not Latin. A valid diagnosis had to be published in Latin so that name is invalid twice over.
1872 Baker named the two varieties: L. lechlinii v. lechtlinii and L. lechlinii v. maximowiczii. My Japanese flora calls it Lilium lechtlinii var. tigrinum and kooniyuri コオニユリ(=small tiger lily). I do not know whether this is a local variant or a different name on the same taxon.
Obviously, with a naming history like this, misnaming is bound to occur. Unscrupulous bulb merchants will call anything orange they want to get rid of ‘tiger Lily’. The triploid lancifolium is of course sterile but there might be hybrids between diploid L. lancifolium and L. L. v. maximowiczii that confuse the issue. Also someone who has only seen one of the two and has to work out the name using a book, may have difficulties.
Personally I would prefer to call it Lilium maximowiczii and regard the yellow as var. flaviflorum. We do this with other orange lilies with yellow sports. The present situation is a tail wagging a dog.
Göte
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Lilium poilanei in flower now
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There is a lot of confusion and controversy about these two lilies
Lilium lancifolium was described on Japanese material by Thunberg 1784 and then (presumably on Chinese material) in 1810 by Ker-Gawler as L. tigrinum. Unfortunately Thunberg’s naming was overlooked until fairly recently and the species is still known as “the Tiger Lily”. All forms have black bulbils and the form most common in gardens is triploid and thus sterile. Some triploid strains are reported to be virus infected but look healthy so they pose a danger. Fortunately seeds of the diploid orange forms have been distributed through seed exchanges. Several of the orange coloured Asiatic lilies like LL. amabile, concolor, dauricum etc. have yellow sports. Also L. lancifolium has a yellow sport (Var flaviflorum Makino) which comes true from seed and is very beautiful and easy. There is also a double sport that has been in cultivation in Europe since at least 1870.
A rather similar lily is found in East Asia but it differs in a number of ways (as observed by me in the garden).
The habitus is more slender. The stem runs sideways underground before emerging. The stem is less dark. It is taller. The leaves are narrower, greyer in colour and less glossy. It has no bulbils. Its inflorescence is hairier in the bud stage. The inflorescence is narrower without any branching of pedicels whereas lancifolium pedicels occasionally branch. Lancifolium sometimes has the second bract sitting on the pedicel rather than at the base of the pedicel (All liliums have two bracts to the pedicel but sometimes one of them is halfway up). This lily usually has both bracts at the pedicel base. The flowers are smaller. It is later to flower. All these differences are, each in themselves, not very striking and there may be some variation within both species Not all differences are obvious in all specimen all years. However seen side by side, the difference between the two is very obvious. Also this lily exists as a yellow sport which is rare and not so easy in cultivation.
The naming of this lily is really confused. In 1866 Regel named the orange form: Lilium maximowiczii. Unfortunately, the description was not published until 1888 – but then in two different publications. The yellow form was found in a consignment of other lily bulbs and Hooker named it L. lechtlinii November 1867.
The name psudo-tigrinum was published by Carière for the orange form in the second half of December 1867 thus six weeks later than Hooker’s publication of the yellow form. The diagnosis is in French not Latin. A valid diagnosis had to be published in Latin so that name is invalid twice over.
1872 Baker named the two varieties: L. lechlinii v. lechtlinii and L. lechlinii v. maximowiczii. My Japanese flora calls it Lilium lechtlinii var. tigrinum and kooniyuri コオニユリ(=small tiger lily). I do not know whether this is a local variant or a different name on the same taxon.
Obviously, with a naming history like this, misnaming is bound to occur. Unscrupulous bulb merchants will call anything orange they want to get rid of ‘tiger Lily’. The triploid lancifolium is of course sterile but there might be hybrids between diploid L. lancifolium and L. L. v. maximowiczii that confuse the issue. Also someone who has only seen one of the two and has to work out the name using a book, may have difficulties.
Personally I would prefer to call it Lilium maximowiczii and regard the yellow as var. flaviflorum. We do this with other orange lilies with yellow sports. The present situation is a tail wagging a dog.
Göte
This is what makes taxonomy so fascinating!
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This was bought as Lilium pumilum, which clearly it isn't. Small though,
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Dear Gardeners, I am really enchanted by all of your species, there's so much to learn...
I am a girl, I live half of the year in the northern part of Italy next to Milan, and the other half in Rome... and I have a real passion for lilies. In my garden, I can cultivate with success Lilium Candidum ( or Madonna Lily, the most common and most beloved in Italian gardens ) and Lilium Regale as true species, and if I'm in the North I have some success with Oriental and Asiatic Hybrids, but if I'm in Rome the Oriental hybrids are very difficult to grow... it's enough a week or two of heat, and the bulbs are gone, while the Asiatics are hardier and well adaptable to every temperature.
This year I lost the Casablanca ( my favourite... Yves Saint Laurent is said to have been fond of them ), the Montreal, the Stargazer and the Muscadet types, only Helvetia remained, giving me beautiful flowers, along with Asiatics Renoir and the Pixies varieties such as Reinesse, Sweet Lord, Pink Pixie, Butter Pixie, Crimson Pixie, Orange Pixie...
I would like to try some species like Wallichianum or Wenshanense, I appreciated really much the qualities Dick posted from Hong Kong, so delicate and refined, but of course I don't know if the climate of my zone will consent this.
When I live next to Milan, I have a little wild hill where I use to go for a walk with my Eni puppy- dog, and I am thinking to try to naturalize there some lilies, maybe the most similar to Lilium Bulbiferum Croceum.
I attach the only two photos I took for this year of my lilies, had also the Candidum and Regale well flourished but didn't take a snap.
The first is Asiatic Renoir, the second Oriental Helvetia ( sooooo scented! )
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Welcome Fleurdelys!
I believe I can almost smell the fragrance of that beautiful pot of lilies - they look fragrant!
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Hello Fleur de lis,
Yes, wallichianum should do very well with you. It flowers late, in october/november and as you must have quite a long growing season they should flower well with you. They also do not mind heat, and will also grow in sun as long as the roots can be shaded. I have one very large specimen doing well in a huge pot that gets full sun from about 10 am to 5 or 6 pm.
Wenshanense needs more shade and cooler conditions, so it may be a bit trickier with you.
You could also try the USA hybrids, bred in oregon for resistance to heat, disease and cold. I have them in a sunny border in which they thrive (also under our 35°c summer this year, although the flower colour will be a bit fainter in full sun.) Hybrids such as anastasia and rococco are very good, as well as silk road.
I would recommend also 2 indestructibles, black beauty and sherehzade, also bred in the USA and very resistant. You could also try some turkish sp, such as monadelphum, svitzianum and cilliatum, which stand heat fairly well.
I can e mail you some images if you want of some of the hybrids, and species, i also have some other lilium images here on my website :
http://pontuswallstenplants.smugmug.com/Flowers/autumn-2010-plant-catalogue/12188653_LcvHNF# (http://pontuswallstenplants.smugmug.com/Flowers/autumn-2010-plant-catalogue/12188653_LcvHNF#)!i=1911132357&k=qnr3Q55
Pontus
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Welcome Fleurdelys!
I believe I can almost smell the fragrance of that beautiful pot of lilies - they look fragrant!
Hi Maggie, they were simply divine... in the evening especially, with open windows, you could have thought to be in Heaven
some people don't tolerate the perfume of the orientals from the auratum... I am still trying to have the Casa Blanca... even if Helvetia is very similar as lily, Casa Blanca remains a must have...
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Hello Fleur de lis,
Yes, wallichianum should do very well with you. It flowers late, in october/november and as you must have quite a long growing season they should flower well with you. They also do not mind heat, and will also grow in sun as long as the roots can be shaded. I have one very large specimen doing well in a huge pot that gets full sun from about 10 am to 5 or 6 pm.
Wenshanense needs more shade and cooler conditions, so it may be a bit trickier with you.
You could also try the USA hybrids, bred in oregon for resistance to heat, disease and cold. I have them in a sunny border in which they thrive (also under our 35°c summer this year, although the flower colour will be a bit fainter in full sun.) Hybrids such as anastasia and rococco are very good, as well as silk road.
I would recommend also 2 indestructibles, black beauty and sherehzade, also bred in the USA and very resistant. You could also try some turkish sp, such as monadelphum, svitzianum and cilliatum, which stand heat fairly well.
I can e mail you some images if you want of some of the hybrids, and species, i also have some other lilium images here on my website :
http://pontuswallstenplants.smugmug.com/Flowers/autumn-2010-plant-catalogue/12188653_LcvHNF# (http://pontuswallstenplants.smugmug.com/Flowers/autumn-2010-plant-catalogue/12188653_LcvHNF#)!i=1911132357&k=qnr3Q55
Pontus
Hi Pontus,
in saying so, you let me hope... I thought Wallichianum needed high places ( he's apre- himalayan after all ), instead is perfect!
There are a lot of species I would like, also longiflorum ( maybe a hybrid like snow queen or white heaven is more easy to grow ), and of course I keep in mind those you mentioned me.
I send you my email in private message, I would be glad to discover some quality in Europe isn't on the market!
Thanks again
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Pontus, your Lilium Majoense and also the Bakerianum are sooooooo beautiful!! Can they adapt in Northern Italy?
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I'm currently in Fugong, having just visited Dulongjiang. Between there and Gongshan I came across this species growing on a forested hillside alongside a big Smilacina
who's name escapes me at the moment.. fusca. This has to be L. henrici, right?
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I think you are right, arisaema!
Are the seed capsules full? I would give my left arm for seeds of this species!
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Are the seed capsules full? I would give my left arm for seeds of this species!
They are indeed full, I'm hoping they'll pay for the trip and keep me well fed for a couple of months... ;)
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This could really be the case!
Could you send me a private message?
I am interested!
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"Ah well, back to Lilium regale masquerading as L. brownii, under the wrong label as L. martagon! Here are three pics of the plants I've grown from Exchange seed as L. brownii. They certainly bear a strong similarity to my L. regale but I'm no Lilium expert."
Remember this from Reply 102 on July 15th last? Well I have a goodly quantity of Lilium regale seed (I take it that it's lightish brown and papery) available if anyone would like a share.
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Lilium yapingense (http://www.sekj.org/PDF/anb50-free/anb50-187.pdf) ;D
I'm putting up some pictures from my trip to Yunnan on Facebook, I'll make a thread here too once I reach home: https://www.facebook.com/trilliumno (https://www.facebook.com/trilliumno)
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Nature Museum has lots of pictures of it in flower: http://www.nature-museum.net/Album/ShowSpPhoto.aspx?virtualalbumid=(S)49971&page=1&photoid=270338d6-9b62-4960-b642-810313ee2be8 (http://www.nature-museum.net/Album/ShowSpPhoto.aspx?virtualalbumid=(S)49971&page=1&photoid=270338d6-9b62-4960-b642-810313ee2be8)
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A new Asiatic Lilium in the garden is 'Tiny Padhye';
Will is not sure why I bought it! :-X
cheers
fermi
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A new Asiatic Lilium in the garden is 'Tiny Padhye';
Will is not sure why I bought it! :-X
cheers
fermi
Re-posting with expandable thumbnail pics (I hope!)
cheers
fermi
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Today I noticed that two Lilium lankogense bought in the autumn had pushed their noses through (and someone had had a nibble!). Should I cover them up?
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I've never been able to grow Lilium candidum so it was a bit galling to see a wonderful clump flowering at work in what is basically an abandoned garden! The first flower opened last week and they look like they'll be finished soon....hmmm, I wonder if they set viable seed?
cheers
fermi
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....hmmm, I wonder if they set viable seed?
I spent a few minutes in my break dabbing pollen so we'll know in a few weeks ;D
In the home garden we've had flowers on a few more liliums
Asiatic Yeti
unnamed white LA hybrid
pink LA hybrid-? Brindisi
Asiatic Tiger Play
cheers
fermi
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Another LA hybrid - the pale orange 'Royal Trinity'
cheers
fermi
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Not in our garden, but in our friend Cathy's, which is in a cooler area (climatically ;D ) so she can grow things we can't - like this lovely species lily which she had labelled as Lilium grayii but someone has suggested that it's L. canadense,
cheers
fermi
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Not in our garden, but in our friend Cathy's, which is in a cooler area (climatically ;D ) so she can grow things we can't - like this lovely species lily which she had labelled as Lilium grayii but someone has suggested that it's L. canadense,
cheers
fermi
It certainly looks more like canadense but it would take a picture of the whole plant to be sure.
Göte