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Specific Families and Genera => Iris => Topic started by: Hans A. on January 20, 2013, 08:25:15 AM
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Iris pamphylica - first flower is open. :D
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Wow how stunning is that :o :o :o
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Congratulations Hans, it is beautiful. I love this iris and bought a print from Jon Evans of the photo he took at a Kent show some years ago which has a wonderful painterly quality to it (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows//KENT+SHOW+/219/?page=2 (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows//KENT+SHOW+/219/?page=2) ).
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Well done Hans !!! it's really a superb species. They are earlier in your garden than here... but leaves are coming and I also hope to get some nice flowers, like yours.
Seems it's a bit rainy in the balearic's ;)
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Congratulations Hans, it is beautiful. I love this iris and bought a print from Jon Evans of the photo he took at a Kent show some years ago which has a wonderful painterly quality to it (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows//KENT+SHOW+/219/?page=2 (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/discussion/atshows//KENT+SHOW+/219/?page=2) ).
Oh, I remember that photo - Jon is very talented. That photos is so "painterly" - just superb.
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Beautiful Hans 8) What else is there to say?
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Thanks for your comments - it is also one of my favourites (although the leaves are the longest of all the Iris I grow) - glad to hear some more forumist have success in growing this gem. :D
Fred, yes it was quite rainy, but it has stopped - hope we will not get snow as in last february.
Gail, thanks for the link - a really superb picture!
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Beautiful Hans 8) What else is there to say?
Nothing much, Ian : it's superb, Hans !
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Thanks Luc! :)
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What a strange year. It is only January 30 and a couple of Retics are showing colour -- unbelievable!
It's +13°C today, and the snow is almost all gone !! This happened about 2 weeks ago as well. Normally things should be frozen solid until mid March.
The forecast is for the temperature to be below freezing for the next 6 days. …we'll see what happens after that.
It was down to -19°C in between the two thaws
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Looking promising Alan - can't wait to see developments...
My first retic opened today; Lady Beatrix Stanley in a pot but I've only seen it by torchlight whilst putting the ducks away. Roll on the weekend!
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Nice to see you back Alan. I have "Clairette" (I think!) out but pretty beat up by wind and rain.
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I would careful watch the weather forecast and proactively keep some bare of straw available in case you expect black frosts.
My collection was hit hard last year during February 2 weeks lasting black frosts (up to -18°C). I lost ~90% of all my bulbs in the raised beds.
Iris reticulata cultivars were eradicated, too.
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Here are a few of Alan's hybrids flowering at the moment here.
Avalanche, Down to Earth, Sea Green.
All do well here either outside or in the tunnels.
The seed I got a couple of years ago from Alan are doing well and some might flower next year. I am looking forward to seeing what comes out.
Susan
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I planted Alan's seeds back in 2006 and had my first flowers last year.
This year I have had one flower, with more to come.
I am posting a shot of this - nothing exotic as shown by Susan - a good garden plant and large. I also show the difference in size between it and an Iranian iris. If only the delicacy of the Iranian could be bred into good garden plants.
The milk bottle top gives some idea of size :)
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Lovely Susan and Arthur. I sowed some of Alan's seed in September 2009 but I reckon they are going to need another couple of years to flowering. Maybe I haven't fed them enough?
Here's Iris reticulata 'Clairette' (I think!) from the garden today. A little beat up by weather and slugs but welcome just the same. Survivors from a batch I had in another place in the garden most of which reverted to bulbils.
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Love that Sea green one :)
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My first Reticulatas for this year,
Iris histrio and Iris vartanii. :D
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My first Reticulatas for this year,
Iris histrio and Iris vartanii. :D
Very nice Dirk.
You must be having a mild winter. Do you expect more snow?
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Very nice Dirk.
You must be having a mild winter. Do you expect more snow?
Arthur, these irises stand in the greenhouse and were covered in the bigger cold with fleece.
The last week-end had we-17°C at night. In the greenhouse were under the protection -3°C.
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Four retics opened here in the last couple of days;
'Lady Beatrix Stanley' - gorgeous shade of blue
'Katherine Hodgkin'
Iris reticulata 'Halkis' from Dirk
Iris danfordiae from the Archibalds (17968), Turkey, Bolkar Dağları - this is a charming miniature compared to the usual commercial form
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Iris danfordiae from the Archibalds (17968), Turkey, Bolkar Dağları - this is a charming miniature compared to the usual commercial form
Small, but perfectly formed. 8)
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Came to me as a gift from a friend as histriodes seedling - I like it and it seems to be bulking up quite nicely. The second came to me as histriodes major but it is not so major as the first even Julia Jane is curious
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Iris zagrica flowering here (ex Jim Archibald collection), a nice blue form but also opening in the next week or two will hopefully be the even better very dark blue/almost black and white form.
Alex
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Thanks for posting Alex - I've never seen that one in the flesh. Is it scented?
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even Julia Jane is curious
Beautiful image Ian! Such a good contrast of form and colour.
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Beautiful image Ian! Such a good contrast of form and colour.
Thank you Gail. I like your Halkis very much. Mine hasn't flowered this year :-\
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Some great plants, love this one:
Iris danfordiae from the Archibalds (17968), Turkey, Bolkar Dağları - this is a charming miniature compared to the usual commercial form
It belongs to those seeds i put several times on my list for ordering from Jim - but finally I never did it... :P ::)
One more picture of my favourite of this group - Iris pamphylica - this year very nice. :)
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What a superb group, Hans ! :o :o
I bet it doesn't look that good in nature ... 8)
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Some flowering at the moment in the bulb house
0962 is from Alan McMurtrie seed sown 2006. Will make a good garden plant I feel
0968 is I think Iris hyrcana - can someone please confirm
0971 An iranian retic - unusual colour - have never seen in the wild where they were mainly blue. Apologies fior poor focus
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A couple of iris in the garden - they may be the same, but at different stage of flowering.
Can anyone identify please
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Some great plants Arthur! :o
What a superb group, Hans ! :o :o
I bet it doesn't look that good in nature ... 8)
Thanks a lot, Luc! It might be... Know only a few pictures Janis posted here last year of this species in nature.
I am very happy how it developed here - the parents of all were 5 small seedlings I received from a good friend some years ago, unfortunatly he died a few years ago - those fine flowers let me remember him every year- and every year there are some more.
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An update to my post on January 30th
Temperatures have stayed below freezing.
Yesterday we got hit with a big snow storm that dumped more than 33cm of snow
So hopefully the Retics are "back asleep" for now
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A couple of iris in the garden - they may be the same, but at different stage of flowering.
Can anyone identify please
Arthur, your first pic looks like Iris histrioides 'Lady Beatrix Stanley'.
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Thanks Dirk
The mystery deepens as I do not recall buying any ???
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Thanks Dirk
The mystery deepens as I do not recall buying any ???
Hmm, perhaps it's time to admit your shopping habit is getting out of hand, Art? ::) :-X ;)
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I'm more worried about my memory.
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I'm more worried about my memory.
Me too, but the BD and Brian Ellis told me to forget it........
....at least, I think that's who it was.......
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Some great pictures there Arthur.
What size pot do you use for your Iris retic. seeds? I'm sowing some Alan McMurtrie seed for the first time this year but I'm trying to figure out what size pot I should use. :-\
Also how deep is the layer of pebbles you have on top of the soil?
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I use a 7cm square pot. I cover the seeds with a fine grit to a depth of approx. 1cm.
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I.r. 'Sheila Germaney'. I nearly chopped it off, I'd planted beneath an epimedium. I always cut off the epimedium foliage in February so I'll see the flowers and had completely forgotten putting these bulbs in after the DW last autumn. Lovely surprise!
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They look as though they have happy there Chris, maybe been a bit dryer over the summer.
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They're up and in flower at least a week earlier than the ones out in the open...
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Here's another Iris zagrica, also from Jim Archibald's collection, I think with better flower shape and colour than the one I posted a week or two ago. Also slower to increase.
Alex
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A couple of iris in the garden - they may be the same, but at different stage of flowering.
Can anyone identify please
Seems like we've got some, (of the ones pictured second), flowering at the moment too Arthur. We don't know its name either!! ;D ;D
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Here are some of Alan McMurtrie's things blooming in Kansas.
John B
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Some more of Alan's. He sent these last year as a mixed mess
as the containers were blown over by the wind the year before
when he was replanting. He has ID'ed the green ones as Sea Green.
John B
mixed mess
ret gr
ret yel
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John - I had no idea you'd be 6 weeks ahead of us. Is the worst of winter behind you now?
Boy Alan has an amazing array of selections but a lot of work to get there too. I wish we saw more of them here in eastern Canada.
johnw - raining heavily, hurricane force winds tomorrow.
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John
I wish I had such a mixed mess :)
All my seedlings are flowering with very nice flowers, but mainly on the purple side. I am sure they will make good garden plants, but it would be nice to discover something like the greens, yellows and whites. Still I do have another 20 pots to hopefully flower next year.
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Hi Johnw. These started opening a week & a half ago. I have had
bulbs blooming since Jan. 19 starting with Sternbergia candida.
We could still get a blizzard and down to 0 f. Never know in Kansas.
It'll be 60f + today and back down cold the next week.
John B
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I apologise for the poor quality of the picture, but there were two pots of McMurtrie Iris at Dunblane yesterday. Susan Band's I think.
'Sea Green' and 'Avalanche'
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Here is my latest - does not compare with the two above.
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Hi Johnw. These started opening a week & a half ago. I have had
bulbs blooming since Jan. 19 starting with Sternbergia candida.
We could still get a blizzard and down to 0 f. Never know in Kansas.
It'll be 60f + today and back down cold the next week.John B
John - I'll never understand your weather. How it can get so cold and the ground thaw out so rapidly is beyond me. If our soils freeze deeply it takes till late March or April for them to thaw out. ???
johnw
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Johnw. The ground can freeze to over a foot during prolonged cold snaps but then
it will turn and be 40 to 60f in daytime and it will thaw within a week even with
night freezing. I have tecophilaea that has come thru 3 winters now. The secret
is finding the right microclimate.
John B
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Seems like we've got some, (of the ones pictured second), flowering at the moment too Arthur. We don't know its name either!! ;D ;D
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Looks like HARMONY or JOYCE
Janis
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John - Not many years in these parts that the ground has thawed in a week. Spring moves at a glacial pace here.
johnw
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Iris 'Avalanche'
Iris 'Sea Green'
At Dunblane yesterday.
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John - I'll never understand your weather. How it can get so cold and the ground thaw out so rapidly is beyond me. If our soils freeze deeply it takes till late March or April for them to thaw out. ???
johnw
John, my weather may confound you but the weather, global position,
and microclimates are what allow me to grow things like
onco and regelia iris, tecophilaea, eucomis, cypella, and other flowers
that they say won't survive in this zone.
John B
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Looks like HARMONY or JOYCE
Janis
Thank you Janis.
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Here are my shots of John's iris exhibited Saturday at Dunblane. I really like 'Sea Green' but I'm not sure how well it would do in the trade...
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Thank you all, nice flowers :D
Iris hyrcana, from Janis.
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I came across this site on facebook
not sure if the link works but I found the pictures worth for showing
Click on the picture to walk in the future from the reticulata irises
Roland
http://www.reticulatas.com/HTML%20Pages/bigpicture.html (http://www.reticulatas.com/HTML%20Pages/bigpicture.html)
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Roland, thank you for sharing the site! So many nice hybrids there :D
Iris (Iridodyctium) kopetdagense is flowering now :)
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Roland, thank you for sharing the site! So many nice hybrids there :D
Iris (Iridodyctium) kopetdagense is flowering now :)
Sorry, but name is not correct. By original description this "ķopetdaghense" flowers with undeveloped leaves, but on right plant they overpass even flowerbud. I have true one, too and by flower both are very close, but it is not "ķopetdaghense". Sorry.
Janis
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On attached pictures true and uncorrect "ķopetdaghense"
Janis
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Thank you Janis :) Your identification advices are always welcome ;) I'll keep my eyes on the right plant in my pic.
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Iris 'Katharine Hodgkin'
Iris 'Sheila Ann Germaney'
Iris histrioides 'Major'
Iris 'Purple Gem'
and first flower from seed of 'Clairette' -'Cantab' (should have checked the label before posting) not like it's mum. Don't know who dad was ;D
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I obtained this little beauty in swop as 'Iris aff.reticulata (Iran KMZ 9505)': I think it is Iris hyrcana. Is that correct? What do you think? Thank you.
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I'm not convinced that it's possible to differentiate between I reticulata and I hyrcana any more. Others may disagree.
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Ebbie
I think it is hyrcana. It is more 'rounded' than the typical reticulate flower.
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Ebbie, nice small reticulata. I have unfortunately lost this form.
Here is Iris kolpakowsiana in flower.
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Iris zagrica
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Thanks, David, Arthur and Dirk.
Luc, your Iris zagrica is a fine piece!
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I obtained this little beauty in swop as 'Iris aff.reticulata (Iran KMZ 9505)': I think it is Iris hyrcana. Is that correct? What do you think? Thank you.
I agree - hyrcana, although I think flowers are quite asmall in this form.
Janis
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Thanks Janis. I will rename the plant in Iris hyrcana, but put a question mark behind it.
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Beautiful little zagrica Luc.
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Katherine Hodgkin this morning, between snow showers.
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Shows how tough Katherine is. Mine, grown in shallow pan outside were over and done with nearly a month ago
Erle
Anglesey. 0°C with snow showers and 40kph wind
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So nice to see so many different "retics" - the promise of things to come for us as we're only just planting ours!
A few years ago through Marcus Harvey I managed to import a few of Alan McMurtrie's "SxD" hybrids from Janis. They had to wait awhile in quarantine and then re-aclimatising to the reversed seasons but I'm very hopeful for flowers this year!
A few of us in our Garden Club imported a whole batch of seed from Alan about 6 or 8 years ago but in those days he never sold seed from his "SxD" crosses so the greens and whites were never going to emerge from our seed pots! That's why I'm so keen to get the named varieties to bloom in the hope of getting those genes into our very limited retic gene pool here in Oz.
cheers
fermi
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Iris pamphyllica is blooming outside, but with some protection against rain.
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My goodness Fred- that looks like a painting! 8)
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Fantastic one Fred
can I post the picture on my page ?
Roland
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Iris pamphyllica is blooming outside, but with some protection against rain.
Stunning plant and picture, Fred !! :o :o :o
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Fred a superb photo as usual - love black backgrounds to flower shots.
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Thank you all; you can use it Roland :-)
Maggy, it's a true plant, not a painting ;D ;)
It also exists in white :)
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Stunning images Fred, :o :o. I'd love to see both of them framed together, side by side ;D
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Excellent photograph of iris pamphyllica Fred. Your skills can be helpful !
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Thanks Fred for posting the white background now. :-\ :-\ :-\
Both stunning in their own way.
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Fred
Wish I had your skills in growing the perfect plant - and then to be able to present it so beautifully.
Thought the black background was outstanding until you showed the white - now I can't decide.
Arthur
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This from today
(http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w481/davey1970/DSCF2195_zps139bb03c.jpg)
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Maggy, it's a true plant, not a painting ;D ;)
It also exists in white :)
:o :o :o - Fred! May I ask for a masterclass? ;)
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I agree Hans.
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:) ;D ::)
You will have Hans, You will ... ;D ;D very soon... ;D
Pat, you're too far away, but one day I'll come... not for a masterclass, but to visit your beautiful country !
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8) ;) - thanks!
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Kwekerij de Schullhorn's display at the Lentetuin ("Spring Garden" in Dutch) flower show in Breezand, The Netherlands (about an hour north of Amsterdam) which ran from Feb 28 thru Mar 4th. The display included 5 of my Reticulata Iris: White Caucasus, Spot On, Scent•sational, 98-NP-4, and 01-IV-1.
The three other Retics are some of my hybrids being tested in Holland.
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Alan
Some more stunning iris.
Particularly like 98-NP-4
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Here are some more of Alan's hybrids. And an old ret.
Avalanch
94-AT-1
Ruby
Marguerite
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Today opened winter cover and... some reticulatas finished blooming, but others in full power.
Reticulata bed
Iris x McM Orange Glow
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Janis seeing so many in bloom all at once is amazing.
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Fabulous Sight, Janis! :o
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Really amazing Janis!
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Here are my iris reticulata x sea green. Flowering at least 3-4 weeks later than usual because of our very cold late winter and early spring. They are still in full bloom as I write. It is not easy however to get their true greenish turquoise colour to come out well and true to nature in a photograph....
Pontus
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At last the Retics are starting in earnest here in Toronto, Canada
05-EN-1 was in bud at the end of January after two significant freeze thaw cycles. I had it's 3 buds covered with an upside down dishpan. The first photo shows the snow on March 13th. The 2nd phot shows one of the 05-EN-1 flowers on March 25
05-FT-2 was the first new hybrid blooming for the first time
Amazing to see buds coming up through the snow
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Two crackers there Alan, very nice. And this just the start.
Here the snowdrops are appearing again after last week's snowfall. Hopefully the mild weekend will start the season off.
johnw
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A few more new Retics that are blooming for the first time.
April 1st was cold and windy, but I took advantage of it to get caught up with cataloging photos and updating my records
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Few reticulatas blooming now.
As first one is Iris zagrica, collected by me in Iran (WHIR-185)
Then another, most likely Iris zagrica, too, but collected by Henrik Zetterlund in Iraq
WHIR-108 from Iran most likely is Iris hyrcana, although flowers are small for this species
Much more typical for Iris hyrcana is WHIR-134
And another Iranian gathering - WHIR-156
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One more Iranian reticulata - WHIR-136, more resermbles traditional Iris reticulata.
Then slightly bluish Iris reticulata from Armenia
and purest white Armenian Iris reticulata - both gathered for me by our forumist Zhirair (his entries mostly are on topic Tulips)
On last picture you can compare Armenian white (Zhirair's) and cv. White Caucasus, selected by Alan Mc'Murtrie (on right side).
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Alan - I think that 06-DF-1 is stunning.
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I've always said that 'White Caucasus' was more a very very pale blue than white and Janis' picture proves me right I think.
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Not quite sure what to say. Mine seems to be nice and white.
I do appreciate there are different "colours" of white.
In terms of my whites from Iris danfordiae, Snow and Sky (00-KV-2) is the best
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A couple of new hybrids blooming for the very first time
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What do you think?
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Fantastic flowers Alan !
I find "Ice and Sky" truly exceptional... (well they all are really) :D
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Astonishing plants Alan - I particularly love the tiger-striped ones.
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Here's one I'm particularly proud of: 05-HW-1 It first bloomed in 2011. Unfortunately when I went to replant it that fall I damaged the main bulb, so it didn't bloom last year.
It makes me think of a butterfly
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Very dramatic - leopard-spotted to go with the tiger-stripes!
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Here's one I'm particularly proud of: 05-HW-1 It first bloomed in 2011. ....It makes me think of a butterfly
That's a definite winner there, Alan!
Is there a leopard spotted butterfly you can name it after?
cheers
fermi
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It can be fun, and at the same time frustrating, to come up with a name. Especially if the hybrid is a special one.
You want to pick the right one.
You can go for several years thinking of names, and just not getting it.
That's what happened for both Spot On and Scent•sational
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It's the middle of Reticulata bloom and yesterday we were hit with more than 4cm of snow, then freezing rain overnight, and now it's +2°C and raining.
The upside down dish pans and cans may not look good, but they make a world of difference for hybridizing
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I think 'Spot On' is just, well let's say----- spot on ;)
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It's the middle of Reticulata bloom and yesterday we were hit with more than 4cm of snow, then freezing rain overnight, and now it's +2°C and raining.
The upside down dish pans and cans may not look good, but they make a world of difference for hybridizing
That's tough weather for your flowering period, Alan.
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This year's bloom has turned out to be a nice long one. My hybrids from Iris danfordiae are almost all finished. At a friend's house 20 minutes north by car they are at peak bloom. Here White Caucasus and related hybrids are just starting -- signalling it won't be long before bloom is over for another year. But those hybrids have just started so I still have a number of days to enjoy them.
Here are some unusual multicoloured hybrids that are currently blooming
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They are nice Alan.
What kind of soil do you grow them in?
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Alan's 'SEA GREEN' blooms now outside. Really it is even much greener than on picture. Alan's reticulatas better grow outside, but there they are subject of weather fluctuations and subject of rodent attacks (I lost this winter several Crocus stocks grown outside). Greenhouse crops although makes smaller bulbs are much safer.
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Sorry for being MIA (missing in action). Problems with my laptop were solved by having the logic board replaced.
I use what you would term regular garden soil. In Holland bulbs are grown in sandy loam. I tried pure coarse sand, but generally the bulbs die out after a few years. I have tried mixing regular garden soil with about 30 or 50% coarse sand, but haven't yet concluded whether that's any better than regular garden soil.
For those of you favouring pure species, Iran 895 does quite well in coarse sand. When I moved some bulbs into regular garden soil a number of years ago they died out. In a sense I should retry the experiment. Of course there's a lot of things I should try; just not enough hours in the day.
Here also is my Pièce de Résistance. For a little intrigue, I leave it to you to figure out why
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Here also is my Pièce de Résistance. For a little intrigue, I leave it to you to figure out why
Is that a danfordiae hybrid with standards?
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Alan , is I. kolpakowskiana involved in this hybrid ????--whatever it is a beauty !
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No, not danfordiae. Occasionally standards come back in danfordiae hybrids, but so far they have been slightly reduced in height from what you would find in typical Reticulatas.
Iris kolpakowskiana is a lovely plant, though I find it a bit tricky to keep. I was surprised to have it bloom this year. I thought it might have died out. It is gone from another part of the garden, where it had been for a number of years.
Kolpakowskiana is more closely related to Junos. It's pollen grains look like soccer balls, just like Juno pollen grains.
Reticulata pollen looks more like wheat kernels.
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Here also is my Pièce de Résistance. For a little intrigue, I leave it to you to figure out why
The falls have 'wings'?
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Here's one from last year... Its standards are hanging down!
This is what it looked like when I discovered it amongst some Junos. The bulbs were just a little too small to bloom this year.
I'm looking forward to seeing it next year.
I believe it gave 14 seeds (they would have been "bee seed"; I would have selfed it if I had been able to)
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One of my hybrids photographed in the field in Holland on March 6th.
It may be blue, but it's certainly different from all of the blue Reticulatas in commerce
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None of my retics are in bloom yet, but Otto brought a wonderful potful (second year in the pot, too!) of iris histrioides'Lady Beatrix Stanley' to the FCHS meeting on Saturday,
cheers
fermi
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I have a small number of Alan McMurtrie's hybrids which were imported via Marcus Harvey (when he still had an import house! :'( ) and this year I've got a couple of flowers!
Blue Ice x 2
Dance On - and no, I didn't notice all those earth-mites till I enlarged the pic but they'll be getting a spray when I get home >:( !
cheers
fermi
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Iris histrio ssp aintabensis (MT4501corrected by Otto)
Retic iris 'Clairette'
cheers
fermi
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Fermi , the details for the Iris histrio var. aintabensis I gave you some years ago are : MT 4501 , col nr. Maras , Turkey .
MT stands for Mathew & Tomlinson
my plants flowered nearly 4 weeks ago .
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Fermi , the details for the Iris histrio var. aintabensis I gave you some years ago are : MT 4501 , col nr. Maras , Turkey .
MT stands for Mathew & Tomlinson
my plants flowered nearly 4 weeks ago .
Thanks, Otto,
I always forget the 4 at the start!
I was surprised to see a flower so long after the one you brought to the last meeting; it might be due to the conditions it's growing under here.
cheers
fermi
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Iris 'Clairette'
cheers
fermi
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Fermi - I can see why Springtime and Clairette get confused. Below is what I have as Springtime. Does anyone here know what the difference should be between the two? The standards in my picture look more of a pale blue than Fermi's picture (his more purple-blue, but then it could be the lighting). My camera does have difficulty reproducing some of the borderline blue/ purple colours of some of the iris reticulatas. Photos of iris reticulata Edward that I took recently look completely different to what it looks like in person.
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Jon,
I finally have 'Springtime' in bloom here,
looks pretty much like yours and maybe a little different to Clairette,
(but I don't think I can tell them apart!)
cheers
fermi
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Here's a clue to my April 27th post
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Here's a clue to my April 27th post
Refers to message 124 on the previous page http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10016.msg275117#msg275117 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10016.msg275117#msg275117)
That's a good broad petal - very nice Alan.