Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Specific Families and Genera => Rhododendron and other Ericaceae => Topic started by: Maggi Young on November 15, 2006, 11:10:51 AM
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Yippee! The esteemed Mr Website Admin has consented to a Rhododendron file.
These are my most favourite group of plants, along with their relatives in the family ericaceae
and I hope enough of you are interested to find these files of value. If not, I'll just keep posting anyway, in the hope of breaking down your resistance.
I'll start things off with a shot of a Rhodo flowering today, in November, in Aberdeen. This is a plant which is good for throwing a flower anytime through from late July right through until its mani flowering period in May. It is Rhododendron sargentianum. EEK! No it is not! it is Rhod. saluenense ssp. chameunum ! Had a blockage in the little grey cells, there, SORRY.... I cannot change the file names of the photos, I'm afraid, so please bear with my error!
Ian has hidden cameras somehow or taken them away with him so I'll show old shots. Plant today has around half a dozen small flowers across it, not bad for this time of year.
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I for one will be a regular visitor of Rhododendron pages Maggi - do post along !
I'll join you in spring.
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I for one will be a regular visitor of Rhododendron pages Maggi - do post along !
I'll join you in spring.
I love 'em but, as with most things, I grow them badly and blame the Devon climate. :)
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does anyone know anything about the new black leaves Rhodie from Glendoick? As shown in, dare I say, the Sun a few weeks back
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Not on page 3 I suppose :o
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Mark, see the Glendoick website for some more info. It is a well thought out site, I like it.
This is the page:
http://www.glendoick.com/content.php?page=redfoliage
I think that red/purple is more accurate than "black"... interesting though.
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It would be nice if every garden could have some !.Unfortunately while Vireya Rhodos.can be placed out in the open garden down here for the next 4/5 months they need to be placed under cover to survive the winter.
Vireya Just Peachy --currently in bloom--a prolific flowerer eventually reaching 1 metre in height.
Cheers Dave
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Still haven't figured out how to post more than one pic within a posting.Here's a shot of the above mentioned Rhodo showing the full plant.
Cheers Dave.
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No matter how many posts you needed to get the pix across Dave, it was worth while : beautiful plant.
Thanks
Luc
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Maggi it's the thought of spring and Rhodos - I like them all - that keeps us going at this time of the year. I'm afraid a lot of mine are too big too be called rock garden plants. Here are a couple from last spring..
Rhodo Calophytum which has wonderful new foliage followed by Cinnabarinum and a spring view to keep me going
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How right you are, Ian... hope and expectation is what really drives us, isn't it? So nice to have a photo of you now... Makes things much more homely. I think we have proved already on the pages of this new forum, never mind in those of the old one, that we are very broad-minded about our plants... after all, depends on how big your rocks are, doesn't it? I personally believe that bigger plants, shrubs and trees are essential to building a complete garden, with or without rock garden and alpine plants and I think that most of us here agree... witness these great pix from your garden and all the others we see on these pages.
I am just drooling over that R. calophytum... what a stunner and what a size the stigma is!
We've removed our cinnabarinum/ types... too susceptible to powdery mildew here.....but I do miss them.
Just realised when I saw your Magnolia that we don't have those any more either. Used to have a few smaller ones, they did not do well for us and I gave them all away so they could live a better life elswhere!
I would so love to have somewhere to keep some (lots) of Vireyas... I adore them!
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Yes Maggi most of my Cinnarbarinum types have departed for the same reason but by planting rooted cuttings in various and some unpromising spots I have a couple which thrive including the hybrid Lady Chamberlain,
Here is a smaller one that's a bit tricky outside but with a little protection it is beginning to make some headway. Cephalanthum Crebliflorum.
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Mmmmm... some very nice Rhododendrons in here. Thanks for the great pics and info everyone.
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Losing cinnabarinums to disease was very upsetting, so I buy any wild-collected seed I can get. I am sure there must be some with resistance - I just have to grow enough to find them. It's a good thing they are slender.
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Yes, Diane, slenderness can have some real positives!
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Things are a little slow here in Aberdeen on the rhododendron front but we are beginning to see some progress for the early-spring-flowering types. Here is R. albrechtii, grown from seed. This has been out for a week or more now:
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Always fairly early into flower and often frosted because of that, is R. 'Cilpinense' which is a hybrid of R. ciliatum and moupinense. This, the whole bush, just opening out its buds:
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Nice ones, Maggi.
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Maggi
Your pictures of R.albrechtii and cilpinense surprised me.Mine are no where near out yet.You're very brave to grow these two so far north.Mine invariably get spoiled by the frost.
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The R. albrechtii is in a fairly sheltered spot in the front garden, to the north of the house, so it doesn't get the early sun on frost covered flowers which idoes so much damage.
The Cilpinense gets ruined most years at some point in its flowering cycle, but every now and then we get the full glory of its apple-blossom coloured flowers without any such interruption. Even if we get a week, I think its worth it, when we getthe full time it is just super! I've shown it now, before the flowers are fully open, just in case! I'll show it later on in full flower, weather permitting :-\
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Funny how different plants are out across the country. There is so much in the forum pages that we are behind with, strange to hear we have some things in advance.
Writing the last reply about positions for shelter reminded me that I have a Cilpinense in a pot where it will catch any early sun, I must move it. But not tonight, it is blowing a gale and pouring with rain now!
I do not have pure R. moupinense but I do grow R. ciliatum outside. It does not flower till much later, thank goodness.
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all very nice. The botanics in Dublin have a huge collection including tiny ones growing on bark
to post multiple images click on more attachments beside browse
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These pix were taken yesterday and, surprisingly, after the gales last night, these buds are still attached to the plant! This is Rhododendron thomsoni 'McBeath', a fine form collected by, you've guessed it (after all there is often a clue) Ron McBeath.
The stems of this plant have a cinnamon coloured and shaded bark, which peels attractively. It is almost like a Eucalypt in that sense. The flowers are vulnerable, especially at their next stage of opening.... when the flowers are extending their pedicels are VERY brittle and if they catch the wind then, they are liable to end up on the ground or stuck in the hedge! If the wind doesn't get them at that time, then they are long lasting blood-red flowers, making a handsome foil for the mid-green foliage. With luck, I'll be able to show you the open flowers later!
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Seems a beauty Maggi - keeping our fingers crossed for you !
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Here are a few species Rhododendrons now out in Benmore Gardens , Argyll. If anyone is interested, I can probably supply pictures from most of the West Scotland rhoddie gardens as the season progresses. We visit Benmore gardens about every 20 days, and are regular at Arduiane, Crarae, Brodick, Logan, Threave and Dawyck. Possibly we will manage a trip to Gigha again
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Yes please, keep posting those rhododendron species. Look forward to seeing them.
Susan
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Two more pictures. I don't understand the posting rules. Is it total posting max. of 300kb, or max. of 300kb per individual picture and what does the figure :10 refer to
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Lovely to see these Rhodos from the West, Tom.
As to your question about file sizes etc, see the page about posting difficulties in the ADMIN General Section, lots of good hints there. This is the page: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=41.0
Here's a bit that is relevant to you: Q:”I had tried to attach 4 images which would have exceeded the 300Kb limit and that was my problem, obviously. Hard to upload multiple images then?”
A: Not correct.
Each image can be 300K: 10 images max. per post. That's 3 meg. Within these limits, user are asked to act responsibly as you can imagine it would be possible to use up vast resources.
Some browsers may have upload limits, too, which can affect you ability to load large pix or multiples, I think. Persevere, you'll get there!
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Either Mrs Cameron is a very short lady, or that R. Hookeri is a good big tree! What a treat to have a nice day out in a beautiful garden. thanks for sharing.
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Maggi. Cindy is approx. your height. This Rhododendron is the original introduction, or so I am led to believe. It stands about 16 feet tall.
Last two pictures, I hope !!
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Thank you, Tom. Do you have a close-up of the fowers of R montroseanum. I have it but it has only flowered once. I think it is in too much shade, but it is now too big to move. The ones you photographed appear to be out in full sun. Is this correct?
Susan
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Last posting. The weather was so dull today that individual trusses were almost impossible to photograph.
However, here are two as an example. Colours at this time of year are not very vibrant, watch this space.
Most of the Rhodendrons and trees here are a good age and large to huge in size. Far too big for any modern house and garden,and, to me, that is their main attraction
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Cindy is approx. your height.
Aha! Cindy is thus about 5foot 4inches, around 163cms : small, and perfectly formed!
Just the very dab for showing the stature of the tree.
To my shame, most of the gardens of the West coast of Scotland are a complete mystery to me, so I would love to take a virtual tour with you and Cindy as you visit your way around the season.
Feel free to open a thread for each garden as you go, if you like, or we could have a Scottish West Coast Rhodo Garden thread....see how you go on!
Susan, I know there are some wonderful rhodo collections in NZ, too, so I'm not surprised by your interest. Bear in mind Anthony Darby's oft repeated claim that " all of Scotland is in shade" ......there are not too many things that cannot take full sun ,( or what passes for that here) either in the west or over here in the east! The west has the advantage of being a kinder climate for the large -leaved rhodos. Your montroseanum is too big to move, you say, but perhaps without sun it is not ripening its growth enough to mature sufficiently to make more than the occasional flower? I am beginning to wonder it that isthe problem with my R. auriculatum.... I have been waiting about twenty-two years now, and never a flower!
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I really like these small tree-like Rhodos especially the scented ones. That has to include the lovely small
?Snow Queen shown at our show last Saturday
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Mark, might that not have been 'Snow Lady'? This is a sweet hybrid between R. leucapsis xR. ciliatum. Not too tender though the flowers, with super black anthers, can get frosted. It flowers her later in March or in to April. Looking for a pic but I might not have digital one.
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Tom nice to see such good plants in a nice part of the world. I have a Montroseanum but its a poor looking thing compared with the one you show. Nice to see how it should look.
Here is an interesting one it is a hybrid with Macabeanum as parent with the other being another large leaved species. Best to show this now as it usually gets frosted long befor it attains full beauty. I got this some years ago from Trewithen Gardens in Cornwall where their Macabeanum is perhaps the best form being a chrome yellow. I have another seedling which is yellow but not out yet
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Maggi, part of my garden is in shade, in fact, large parts really! Problem is that large trees just seem to keep getting larger, and the larger they grow the more expensive they are to remove. >:(
I grow a number of large leaf rhododendrons and our local Rhododendron group has had the advantage of having seed grown plants, grown by a wonderful grower, and supplied on the annual plant list. I have some plants that I bought somewhere around 1976 and they are all getting quite large now. Originally they were planted to give them shelter from strong winds, which tend to wrench the leaves off. Over the years they have become too sheltered maybe.
I would second having more photos of Scottish rhododendron gardens. We have had the good fortune over the years to have a number of speakers from Scotland out here to speak to the local groups. We could always do with more - any thoughts Maggi, on giving us one of your talks on small species?????? Please. ;D
Susan
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The expression, "in full sun" is not understood in the west of Scotland! The Montroseanum is in a sheltered
glade with other species such as falconeri and thomsoni. There are large conifers all around, all well over 100 feet. Sunlight comes in through the foliage or through a semi-open area facing aprox. south east. This protection is needed from the wind. Gales of 60/70 mph are common here and about every 15 years we get hit by hurricane force winds of over 110mph. This picture was taken at noon today in a brief period of hazy sunshine but I did not take a close up of the trusses as they did not look photogenic.
I first visited BENMORE gardens in my push chair in 1944 and I have been taking pictures here regularly since 1967. It holds a special place in my heart as do my favourite plants, rhododendrons and azaleas.
I can become an absolute bore on the subject so it is time to close and get to bed at 2330
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Ian, what a yummy flower, and great leaves. Large leaves don't do so well here at all. The leaves on R. rex fictolacteum are getting smaller every year as it gets higher above the shelter of the hedge and the aforementioned R. auriculatum's leaves are shrinking, too. Not saying there are not some very handsome large leaved rhodos in the east, even in and around Aberdeen, just that those doing well are in very sheltered spots. You can't fault us for the littler leaved guys, though, and the dwarf forms love life on the east!Susan, if you could hear the state of my throat at the moment, you wouldn't be asking that!
Besides, like the most expensive wine, I don't travel well!
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A delight to have these photos of Benmore, Tom. We'll lap up all you want to show, I promise you.
These are some of the most varied and attractive plants in the world in my opinion, too, and it is your duty to show the world their myriad charms!! May we have some indumentum shots, please, for the leaf collectors among us?
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Maggi,
I'm sure your throat will be better by January! We are lucky that we can grow nearly everything here, which is why Dunedin boasts of being the Rhododendron Capital of New Zealand. I also grow a number of dwarf rhododendrons and at the moment there are even some flowers on Curlew, and R pachysanthum is looking particularly stunning at present.
Tom,
You will never bore us. Just keep those photos coming. How lucky you are to have been able to watch a garden mature.
Susan
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Cindy and I were in Dunedin in February 2005 and stayed in a motel directly opposite the Botanic gardens.
We had a walk round but we were there at the wrong time of year for Rhododendrons. However, we were impressed at the size and quality of the plants on show.
What is different in the west of Scotland gardens is that they were not specifically laid out as botanic gardens. Most of them were estates where forestry or farming had been carried on for hundreds of years.
The Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh acquired the gardens from large estate owners and used the different climatic locations to outhouse suitable plants and trees.
Benmore on the west coast is very wet but has a mild maritime climate - ideal for large leaf Himalayan Rhododendrons and trees from the west coast of the USA
Dawyck has an almost continental climate, with colder but drier winters. Excellent for trees and Rhododendrons which do not like being drowned and can stand frost and snow.
Logan is extremely mild and specialises in the tenderer varieties of rhododendrons. It is also used for the planting of Southern Hemisphere varieties of plants. At present they are trying to transform it into Tasmania with tree ferns everywhere.
Arduaine, in season, is rhododendron heaven. It is not a large garden, but it is wall to wall rhododendrons
with glades of the scented varieties jammed together. The added bonus is the seascape around the gardens.
Glenarn and Crarae are laid out following the contours of natural glens coming down hillsides.
Brodick is a large estate garden owned by the National Trust for Scotland and has a collection of large leafed Rhododendrons and also holds the Horlicks collection which were moved here from the Island of Gigha. So, as you can see from this, I have a bit of travelling to do when the season starts. Luckily for me, they can all be done within a days travel still giving plenty of time to look and photograph.
Time to close as I have got carried away again
Tom
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Tom, I am really enjoying your pictures, thanks for sharing them. Thanks also for your notes on the various gardens which I shall file away ready for my next visit to Scotland.
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David,
I just came up with an idea. Rather than describe where Benmore is, here is a low resolution picture from Google Earth. The "i" on the picture is the car park and entrance, and the woodland to the left is the actual gardens. They go up the hill for 450 feet, luckily there is a covered, seated viewpoint at the top.
In the good old days you could see the American polaris submarine base from here !
Tom Cameron, Ayr
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Here is a rhododendron growing in a neighbour's garden, photographed today. No idea what it is. [You can see my garden fence in the background.]
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Looks like Rhododendron praecox, Anthony. One of the earliest small flowered rhodos to flower. Often seen in gardens with no other rhodos, obviously chosen for its early flowers... funny how some plants get around to odd places!
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Mindful of the weather forecast, I rushed out in the rain and wind to take a few pictures of plants in flower before the searing gale force cold winds and frost turn the flowers into versions of Kleenex. At 1600 I needed a flashgun to get some light but focussing was near impossible with the plants whipping about. However, for what its worth, here is Rhododendron cilipense tucked away in a sheltered plot.
I purchased it from Ardkinglas Nurseries, on Loch Fyne about two years ago, it seems to be thriving, but thinks that February is Spring - wrong !!
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Maggie,two great minds think alike,I too decided that I ought to get some pictures before the flowers are turned to pulp.In fact I think that there are slight signs of damage on the Hokkaido hybrid which would have been from a ground frost a few nights ago.Obviously due the leucaspis blood.I only purchased these plants in Oct.2006.
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I thought the fabulous display on the Rhododendron thomsoni McBeath's form andon R. cilpinense was too good to last.... fierce winds, driving sleet and snow have battered the thomsonii to smithereens and the cilpinense is looking pretty sorry for itself. Such is life!
R. thomsoni, more flowers off than on
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R. cilpinense, flowers turning to mush
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There is some good news, of course, there always is:
Here is Rhododendron pachysanthum opening it flowers, though not so many this year as usual:
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In the far left, see the Rhododendron elegantulum, covered in buds
Rh. pachysanthum flowerhead and leaves, rather chewed by Vine weevils. leaves
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The flowers are really lovely, though fading as they age
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This is Rhododendron elegantulum a super plant which gives good out of season flowers, too.
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again the flowers fade with age
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R. elegantulum young leaves (with Corydalis) from later in the season
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Lovely pictures Maggi-ah! if only I had more room in the garden.
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Maggie,I seem to remember you mentioning Snow Lady and not having a digital picture to show.Here's one I took today.
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Ah, John, thank you, the very plant! Pretty, isn't she?
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Hi
Very nice picture every one
We have here had a lot of blooms on the "azaleas" as they are called in Swedish and the name is the same in Portugal with a slightly different pronaunciation.
Now some of they ones that have bloomed are starying to loose the flowers and gain the foliage, there are still some that is about to bloom.
I think they are all garden center varities with no (or atleast lost) name.
Here is an overview of the inbetween blooming.
This one in perticular is nice big plant with nice flowers. A pot fits EVERYWHERE so the motto of the headline is true. :)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Joakim, thank you for proving what I say: every garden should have... and CAN have some! They are happy to grow in pots as anywhere else. Wonderful plants, the whole family!
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Hi John, Maggi
I guess the breeder named that white rhodie for his mother-in-law.
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"Who was that lady I saw you with last night?"
"That wa Snow Lady, that was my mother-in-law!"
(Apologies to Henny Youngman.... and mothers-in-law)
Sorry, a bad pun that I've always liked but hadn't had a chance to use till now.
cheers
fermi
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As the weather looked set fair yesterday, we decided it was a good day to have a look at Benmore and Crarae gardens. Things were starting to move at both gardens with Crarae about 7/10 days behind Benmore. Bearing in mind that Benmore is more concerned with species Rhododendrons, some of which need a botanist to point out the differences, I sat out t o photograph everything with a flower on it. This was a bad move as after 4 hours of trying to fit in pictures and then find the plant labels, I had had enough. We reckon that we must have covered about 1200 feet of ascent going up to the top of the hill, descending, up and down again, in search of plants in flower. My systematic approach of photographing the plant and then its label did not work out as my computer program sorted them out in a different order, sometimes separating them by 12 pictures. Tonight I will have to work out what is what.
On our way back we stopped at the Creggans Inn on Loch Fyne for a bar supper - highly recommended.
Some general pictures before I sort out the Rhodies.
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Some rhodos from our garden:
Another of R. elegantulum... no apologies for showing it again, it is one of my favourites!!
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Elegantulum in the background with R. pachysanthum looking a bit frosted in some flowers
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The fat bud on R. tsariense x yakushimanum
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R. 'Cilpininese' with frost-mushed flowers
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The ever-reliable little hybrid, R. 'Ptarmigan'
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Another of the Coxes 'bird-named' hybrids, only had this one a year or two, is R. 'Pintail'. It is a bit straggly in growth.
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and a closer view of the flowers. Obviously has R. racemosum in the parentage.
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close-up of R. 'Ptarmigan' flowers
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Some flower buds
R. tsariense x yakushimanum
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R. rex fictolacteum bud
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R, roxianum oreonastes foliage
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R. taliense x lacteum bud
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Still one or two good flowers on the weather battered R. thomsoni McBreath:
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A flower head of R. pachysanthum
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There are some yellow rhodos offering colour, too.
This is R. Yellowhammer, a plant which has small flowers but makes quite a tall plant in time. Almost never without a flower at any time of year, and good for "forcing" for a cut flower with real panache for your Christmas table!!
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A shot of a branch of R. 'Yellowhammer'
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This is Rhododendron sulfureum. Hairy plant, nice bark, dark mahogany, peeling. Super aromatic leaves, whole flower head, pedicels, sticky, you can see the pores etc
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Lovely pictures Maggi, thanks.
Tom, I loved your view of the River Eachaig.
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Great pictures !! So many beautiful things on one page !!
Here's my first Rhodo to flower for me this season :
R. racemosum "City of Liverpool"
Some 10 years old and hardly two feet high.
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A few pictures from yesterday. I hope the names are OK -if not, corrections please.
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Oh, bliss, Tom! Thank you!
It occurs to me that, in keeping with the Galanthophiles and Croconuts, that those of us who worship at the temple of the rhododendron need a name, too......
I have a horrible feeling it might be "RuddyDumDums" :P ....any better (nicer) ideas?
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Some more pictures. How about this mouthfull - "Rhododendronophiles" Did you know that a Rhodie bears the name of a past President of the SRGC ? See attached.
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Sorry for posting two the same. I'm half a sleep now and it must be bed time.
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Great pictures Tom- makes me realize it's more than time to spend another holliday in Scotland !
I go with you Maggy - we definitely need a name here..... not sure that "dumdums" would do us justice though.... ;D
How about Rhodowizards or Rhodoroyals to keep it modest. ;D
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Maggi,
Well you could all suffer from Rhodophilia, which sounds sort of naughty!! LOL Also pretty close to Rhodophiala, but they're a completely different kettle of fish.
Love that bark on the trunks of the rhodo. One of the things I love about Rhododendron 'Tyermanii' is that it has the lovely bark as well as the fuzzy leaves and large white ruffled flowers. You get to see the bark/trunk any time of year instead of just when flowering. It seems to be a fairly robust grower as well unfortunately, which isn't good for my garden but given the name I just couldn't NOT grow it! ;D
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How about Rhodojunkies? :P
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I think I'd prefer rhodofunkies, Paul! ;D
I have never seen Rhododendron tyermannii... I think it is a species rather than a hybrid,... could you show us a pic? Please?
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Yes, every garden should have some...
And for the really small gardens there are still a couple to choose amongst. Why not for example R camtschaticum, just a groundcoverer with the flowers 10-20 cm high up. Or perhaps the keiskei hybrid 'Ginny Gee', wellknown for its flower richness.
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Some rhodos.excelling themselves in my garden today.What flower power they have.Every garden should have some.
Rhodo.dendrocharis Rhodo. davidsonianum Rhodo. Phalarope. Rhodo. Shamrock Rhodo. Snipe
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Stunning John ! Simply stunning !
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Lovely, John! Your 'Phalarope' is keeping a better shape than mine, which is getting a bit straggly. Snipe keeps neater.
Calostrotum isn't out here yet.
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I must apologise Maggie and other forumnists.R.calostrotum is not that but dendrocharis.Sorry about that.
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So it is, John! Perhaps the optician who keeps sending me letters telling me my eye test is overdue has a point after all! R. dendrocharis isn't out here yet, either!
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The rhodies have suddenly started to move here.
Rhododendron fletcherianum Yellow Bunting (seems more cream than yellow)
Rhododendron Sapphire
Rhododendron Blue tit (while the name might suggest this is a "bird" hybrid from Glendoick, it is not!)
This plant came from a friend's garden which was due to go under concrete. It was dug up and shoved unceremoniously into the back of our car (a very tight squeeze!) Amazingly it survived the move and several years later it continues to delight at this time of year. The underplanting of Anemone Robinsoniana makes a good colour combination - both shades of lavender blue.
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A few rhoddies in flower in our garden.
This is the third Elizabeth we have grown. The first died , the second grew vertically so was removed, and this one seems to be behaving.
Ginny Gee often gets blasted by a sudden frost but has lasted for 5 days now - here's hoping.
The blue one was a two leaved rooted cutting when we planted it and has never failed to flower profusely.
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We grow lots of rhododendrons here in Victoria British Columbia, though they are not very
well matched to our climate. They are glorious in bloom, and then in the summer when
they are trying to make new growth, they have to cope with drought. Some years when
we have severe watering restrictions, they look miserable and produce very small new leaves.
There is one exception I have found - R. racemosum, which copes beautifully without needing
to be watered with a hose. It grows on a bank with several kinds of Cistus, kinnikinnick
(Arctostaphylos uva-ursi) and Lithodora Grace Ward.
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A few rhodos.currently in flower.How nice to see them without frost damage for a change.
R.Yunnanense
R.Razorbill
R.Primuliflorum Doker la
R.Augustinii
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How feminine the flowers of R. yunnanense are. Razorbill is a spinuliferum hybrid and yours looks to be a fair old size, John, considering it is quite slow growing. R. primuliflorum in all its forms is possibly my absolute favourite rhodo, just so neat in the flower.
Thanks for these, John I am so enjoying your garden!
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The same goes for me Maggie.Your garden is an inspiration to me and I must try harder with the eythroniums.I have ordered quite a lot from Susan and I have several pots full of seedlings at different stages of development on which I shall seek Ian's advice on how to deal with them from these stages.I usually pot-on the whole pot of seedlings undisturbed the year after germination but what do I do with them in their fourth year ?
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Great pics John it is not that I do not like rhododendrons, I love them, but I cannot help noticing the fine clump of Arum creticum to the right of the picture of R. augustinii.
As for your erythronium seedlings by the fourth year they should be ready to go out into the garden.
I have a short article on how I grow erythroniums coming out in the next 'Rock Garden' the SRGC twice yearly Journal. This article is to compliment the one I wrote last year on the species in cultivation and hopefully it should answer all your questions. If not ask away.
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Ian,the Arum creticum was planted about five years ago.It came from the garden of the late Stuart Piggins who was a prominent member of the AGS and the rock garden club in Nottingham.He left his total estate of about £800,000 and all of his plants to the AGS who then appointed the NRGC to distribute the plants.Not being a at the centre of things I was approached at the tailend so to speak to see if I could accomadate a large specimen of R.Williamsianum as no other member could.I willingly did so and when collecting it I was also given the Arum and a particularly good form of Helleborus argutifolius collected in the Causicus by Stuart Piggins himself.I am pleased to say that in spite of them all being moved in full growth they have all thrived with a lot of TLC.I will be posting a picture of the Williamsianum shortly.
To return to Harvington Snowgoose I did as Maggie requested and th measurements ar as follows:-
Leaf length 26cms.
,, width 6.2 ,,
Flower stem 37cms.
Width of flower 12cms,
The flower seems like a whopper to me but I have'nt got your experience with the genus so it might not seem that big to you ?
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I too should show that I dont only just grow bulbous and alpines
This is 'Lady Alice Fitzwilliam' although non hardy came through the last two winters with no fleece. I know dont count your eggs ... But it has some strange damage on most of the flowers at the point of the upper petals
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ooh I like primuliflorum!
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I love it too. The leaves smell like honeycomb. (I'm a former beekeeper.)
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ooh I like primuliflorum!
Me too! The flowers have a distinct vireya look about them.
Chloë
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I was in Margaret Glynn's garden todan trialling a borrowed Canon Ixus 50. Anyone know how to change the focus point to centre only?
Here are a few of her Rhododendrons
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A few rhodos.to keep Maggie happy
Rhodo.campylogynum Typing error:this is R. campylocarpum
Campylogynum close-up Typing error:this is R. campylocarpum
R.Loderei.
Loderei close-up
R.loderei Venus
Loderei Venus
R.dendrocharis.
R.dendrocharis Glendoick Gem
R.Edgeworthii
R.Edgeworthii form
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continuation
R.Loderi King George
R.Snipe
R.Williamsianum
R.Yak.hybrid
R.Yak.x Bureauvii
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Here is my 'Wren' that Bob Gordon told me I should have dug up for the show. "I would have got a major prize"
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With the weather holding fine, we decided that this was a good time to visit more Rhododendron gardens.
Last Wednesday 25th, we went to Dawyck, near Broughton , in the Borders.
A day to recover, and we left for the Argyll Atlantic coast via Benmore on Friday. Overnight at Kilmelford and 4 hours in Arduaine on Saturday followed by a visit to the Scottish Rhododendron Society show in Oban. Sunday saw us at Achamore Gardens on Gigha, just making the ferry by one minute on the outward journey, due to some high speed driving on my part and with Cindy's eyes shut for the last 5 miles. We also had to yomp like the Royal Marines to catch the last ferry back at 1630 - there is no transport on Gigha and the Gardens are approx. 1 3/4 miles from the slipway. We managed the 146 miles back home in a leisurely manner and I have downloaded my 3 Gb.s of pictures onto the computer and am now faced with the massive job of putting them through Photoshop and finally downsizing them for the web. I hope to open up a site for each garden but I am faced with the dilemna of what to include.
For starters, here are a few shots from the show. To be honest, it looks a bit like a flower arrangers show.
Rh.Griffithianum
Rh. Xanthostephanum
Rh. quinquefolium
Rh. Lanatum KR
Rh. Kendrickii
Rh. Agrophylum
Rh. Serpillifolium
Rh. Pink Valentine
Rh. Keysii
Castle Stalker in Appin
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I forgot this one of the benches.
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John, the BD was enjoying a read through this thread this morning and pointed out a glitsch in a post of yours: #89 on: April 29, 2007, 09:45:20 PM » He says it is to show you he does pay attention to rhodos as well as bulbs!.......You have mistyped R. campylocarpum as campylogynum. I've put a note on the post. I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets my names confused!
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Absolutely right Maggie,or should I say Ian.Thanks for pointing it out.
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You're welcome, John.... the BD has his uses beyond bulbs!
I realised today, walking in the garden, that there are quite a number of rhodos that I have either no idea of their name, or only a vague recollection.......their labels are long gone, of course! I'm off for a session with my old card index ( well, I was younger and less lazy in those days) to see if I can ring any bells!
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Talking about Rhodo hybrids - here's Rhododendron x yakushimanum 'Percy Wiseman' - photographed 4 times with two day intervals :
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Yes, Luc, it would be hard to beat that Percy Wiseman for a show of flowers... but... I am worried about your cat..... I think it is too late for the vet.... rigor mortis seems to have set in!
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You're wrong Maggi it's just a vey well trained cat - it leaves the garden unharmed and keeps it free of mice ;D - It's name is "Stoney"
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Ian is impressed, he says when Stoney has kittens, may he have two?
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We have just spent the morning helping the village Garden Club coffee morning by manning the plant sales. £300 and mostly in the first 20 minutes! Wish we could do that with our own show in Inverness.
I took some Rhody photos in the garden this afternoon.
R. luteum was inherited with the garden in 1990. The neighbour across the road has the same and of similar vintage so suspect that they were purchased at the same time.
R. delicatissima is a beauty. Maggie would love to get her nose into it - so delicatissima.
R. Sarled has finished its show career and is now in splendid retirement. Wish I was
R. Diamant Red is a nice neat little azalea.
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I had forgotten about this Rh. which we bought at Glendoick about 3 years ago. It is planted in a wind tunnel at the side of the house between a Berberis, Pieris and the fence, so much so that I cannot see it from the path. It caught the early morning sun and looked spectacular with the light coming through the leaves making them fiery red. I cannot remember its name as we lost the lable but it was one of Cox's new red leaved introductions. The flowers are a scarlet bell shape and the plant seems to take everything the weather throws at it. Highly recommended.
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Blackhills Garden near Elgin is one that will stand up to the wonderful gardens in the SW that Tom has been showing.It was started in the early 1900's by a Mr Christie and is still in the family being run by John Christie.It's main claim to fame is its species rhododendrons planted in two long connecting valleys with ponds and wetlands.
It was the venue on Thursday evening for the Moray RGC to hold its AGM and we preceeded this with a walk round the garden.
The garden is formally open to the public on Sunday for Scotlands Garden Scheme but John recommends independant visits when you can better appreciate the garden. All John asks is that you contact him as he obviously likes to know who is wandering round the garden. For more detailed information see his website www.blackhills.co.uk.
Below are a few pictures of the garden and one or two rhodendrons. The final picture is part of the group of 35 Moray members who turned out for the AGM enjoying fresh coffee and scrumptious home bakes.
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Here's a yellow rhody that is not long for my garden. If somebody wants it they can take it away.
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Anthony Why? not enough room for your Cyps
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Anthony how could you dig out such a floriferous plant?
How big, small, is Rhododendron x yakushimanum 'Percy Wiseman'?
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Mark,
I've posted some pix of Percy Wiseman a week or so ago in this very thread - I've had it for some 7 or 8 years and it's abt 1 m high and 1.20 m wide.
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Wrong colour, wrong place, too big, not enough room. Yesterday I had to destroy a phormium I had grown from seed. Needed a rip-saw to cut it to the ground, but the root didn't take much. Whole plant was over 6' tall and 5' spread.
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Here's my favourite in my garden
Rhododendron yakushimanum - trying to show how it opened up over the last two weeks - I've got problems to choose at what stage I like it best ?
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I understand your difficulty, Luc, R. yakushimanum is so beautiful every day! For me there are two favourite times, w one when the new foliage is making silver candles and one as your plant is shown on the 8th may... the flowers are large but there is still a lot of pink... lovely!
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Hi there Maggi and all you Rhodo fans,
This one is only for those of you with patience. My husband Brian sowed the seed in 1994, only one seedling survived. It languished in a pot for a good few years in case it was a good specimen for the Show Bench. Then when our daughter moved to 1000ft on the Lancashire moors he set it free in her garden. This year it has flowered for the first time. Only 13 years, and what is this little gem, Rhododendron metternichii minima.
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Here's a yellow rhody that is not long for my garden. If somebody wants it they can take it away.
Anthony, if you could hold onto it for a while longer I could pop down after I am back from offshore in June.
Thanks, Ian.
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Here are a couple of rhodos in the front garden in Craigton Rd, Aberdeen!
Taken a couple of weeks ago.
I hope I've named them correctly as Rh. yakushimanum and one of its hybrids (or is it the other way round?)
cheers
fermi
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You've got it right, Fermi! The first is pure Rhododendron yakushimanum and the second is the Yak hybrid 'Vintage Rose'
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My brother requests some ideas about why his plant of Fabia x bureavii has
produced pink new growth from old dormant buds. I think maybe the buds
are too old and tired to produce green leaves. He is hoping that he can
root these and have some pink plants.
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Since R. 'Fabia' can have some pink flush with new growth on occasion, perhaps that is where the lovely salmon colour is coming from in this hybrid. I would certainly encourage your brother to try to root some of these shoots because a rhod with foliage like a pink teddy bear is bound to be a winner! There is a stage of bureauvii foliage , before the ginger, cinnamon tones are completely established , that there is a slight pinky cast to the leaves, so I am assuming that the orange genes in Fabia are conspiring to emphasise this colour. Why this should only happen in these new buds from old growth is a puzzle... but I like it! I wonder how long the pink colour will persist as the leaves mature ?
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Here's a quick pic of Rhododendron 'Polar Bear' flowering here now. The flowers are a bit smaller than usual and browning quickly because of the heat we've had. I just wish I could post the scent. It's a gorgeous spicy perfume. Really unique, like no other rhodo I know.
Not a brilliant pic. Difficult to even reach the flower trusses as they're so high up - it's a small tree! It's the scent I really grow it for (and its late season) as the flowers never last long in the August heat.
I first saw and smelled it at Westonbirt Arboreatum down the road from here. Got this one about 10 years ago as a tiny little thing. Now about 12 ft tall and only started flowering last year.
I like the scent as much as that of the Rh. x Loderi forms that I also grow, just as sensual but, as I say, spicier.
It always flowers in August, so needs plenty of shade. Mine's in an almost permanently shaded north-east facing corner of the house, but still flowers freely.
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Oh, Martin, I'm jealous! Just you wait, though, one of these years ( decades?) I'll be able to show you my R. auriculatum's flowers at around this time of year... perhaps by then we will have a scent facility on the Forum..I would love to think so.
Most of the Rhodos that have flowers on in our garden at the moment are ones doing their bit to cheer us by giving us "extra" flowers, none are really meant to be flowering this late... that's what the auriculatum is supposed to be providing for me, of course... ah well, what's twenty odd years to wait... I know a gardener needs patience but this is beyond a joke..... I should have bought a 'Polar Bear'.....but I was being a species snob that day and left the fat little polar bears in the nursery. :P
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Maggi, just stopped writing for tonight. I tried to go for mostly rhodo species, especially varieties of Rh. cinnabarinum, which I just love. But I found the species were slow to flower and not great when it came to flower-power in my conditions. In a bigger garden, where I could grow them in (non-limy) open ground, I could maybe live with that. But on my dry, limestone soil, having to grow my rhodos in containers or special pockets of ericaceous compost, able to water only with collected rainwater, I'm starting to feel I need more return for the effort I have to put in to just keep them alive! So my shy-flowering species are being thinned out a bit these days, and the classier hybrids are being retained for their reliability of flowering. I particularly like the Loderi forms for their fantastic scent and quite elegant, not too unspecies-like trusses. Polar Bear is another that, to my eye, looks more like and improved species than a hybrid rhodo. And the scent is amazing! An eight year wait for the flowers was long enough for me. Not sure I could wait 20 years for a rhodo to flower.
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Hi Maggi and Martin Not a very good picture but here is my Polar Bear had it for about 20years and now now like a small tree. While its great to get a rhodo fix in August usually it coincides (except this year) with a hot spell which ruins the flowers but this year it has been great and yes the scent is wonderful. It is though a wonderful foliage plant and has a tree like shape making it worth all the effort
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Hi Maggi and Martin Not a very good picture but here is my Polar Bear
Ian, a better pic than my truss close-up for showing the elegance of the tree-like mature plant. I agree it has nice foliage and looks very architectural as a small tree. In fact I took off the multiple lower branches about 5 years ago to turn mine into a proper little tree with a clean 6ft trunk, and it looks really nice like that - a very neat little tree not spreading too widely and with quite open, widely spaced foliage that doesn't cut out too much light.
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Hi Martin funny you should trim the tree I myself did that after seeing it at Burncoose garden. Thoughto be truthful I think it was pretty much going to do that itself. When I planted it it had plenty of space but it R Loderi, R macabeanum and Hydrangea villosa not far away so something will have to give.
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I forgot to mention that my Rhodo. 'Polar Bear' is growing in a large tub, so is staying particularly neat (though still tall). I know, I know. It sounds like madness to grow big rhodos in containers but on my limestone soil I have little choice.
Surprisingly the big rhodos like Polar Bear, fortunei and the Loderi forms survive reasonably well root-bound in large tubs. It seems to have a slight bonsai effect on them, stopping them getting too huge, but they still flower well and need surprisingly little watering to keep them alive. I just wait till the leaves droop in hot weather then give them a watering can and they pick right up again.
The one problem is that the foliage never looks quite as dark and healthy as it should. But then it'd probably look a lot worse if they were in the open garden where their roots would soon spread out of any special lime-free compost pockets.
By the way, am I mis-remembering or is Polar Bear a grex, just the name for any seedlings between the two species? And if so, do Glendoick (where I got mine) therefore hand-pollinate and raise Polar Bear from seed? In which case all seedlings will be a little bit different. Or maybe I am remembering wrong. Better check the books!
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Martin in a pot? ::) That's very cruel keeping it in captivity perhaps you should release it into the wild. ;D
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Glendoick's latest rhodo catalogue just arrived. No. No. I...must...not...buy...more...rhodos...for...small...limestone...soil...garden...I...must...not........just one or two couldn't hurt. :-\
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Dear Rhodo lovers
I am thinking on giving my mother in law a rhododendron or two but know the soil is not that great and now I wonder about if it i possible to use dried pine needels of different kind as well as some bags of "soil for acid lovers" from the garden center. The soil is most likely lime since it is clay and the color of terra cotta if You know what I mean. I have the idea that neeles are slightly acid even as dry and hence would try to help against the more limey soil.The pine needles would atleast make the soil a bit more "airy" and mabe make the dranage better. I have 50 liter of needles and can sweep up more if needed.
I am also wondering if the Rhodos can stand the full sun or if they want to have shade. Here the azaleas are getting full sun and seem to love it. They are in pots/planters.
I have based the idea that the soil is limey sice all Hortensias are pink. Still bearded garden iris thrive here. Planted in better soil and not directly in the "terra cotta clay".
For 5€ a pice I would love to get a read one and a white one. There are a rhod ain the garden only 3 times bigger than the ones I am hoping to buy but it has been like that for 30 years and only with adding some "acid soil" it now started to flower.
Is there anything I should think of when chosing the plant? They are garden center hybrids but might be slightly different.
Happy for advice and suggestions.
BTW the azaleas are doing a usuall second flowering and it is starting to be very nice pics to come.
Kind regards from a sunny and hot Portugal
Joakim
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Rhododendrons in clay soil in sun in Portugal is not what I would think of as ideal, Joakim.However, if there are already Azaleas doing well in pots then why not? Certainly an ericaceous compost for acid lovers bought from the garden centre will help. Pine needles are not usually very acid when they are newly fallen, though the acidity rises as they compost. It is possible to grow pretty large rhodos in containers... see Martin's comments about his 'Polar Bear' ... if they can be fed with rain water that is not limey then that is a great help..and rhodos like lots of water, especially when they are making new flower buds and growth. I would be prepared to give them some shade in portugal, this is not something we need to worry about here in Aberdeen, or anywhere else in Scotland, for that matter!
When you are buying them at this time of year, you will need to rely on the labels to see the flower colour but I recommend that you make a choice as much for the foliage as the flowers... after all, you look atthe leaves for all the year, so a little excitment from them is good.... a very plain, green leaved rhodo is fine when you have hundreds of different ones, but when there are only one or two, more "fancy" leaves are a great bonus. Also, some of the smaller, dwarf rhodos... smaller in overall stature and with tiny leaves, can be very attractive in pots because they can acheive a sort of 'bonsai' look, that is, they can look like a very handsome, mature plant when not very old.
Hope this helps,
Maggi
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Joakim, as Rhododendron ponticum baeticum is a wild plant in parts of Portugal it must certainly be possible to grow others.
Just take care they don't behave as ponticum does here (and in western Scotland), and good luck!
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and all of Ireland too! In the south west of Ireland acreas and acres of R. ponticum are being removed. It's a curse on the land of private land owners also
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Thanks for the respone and answer Maggi
I did not see much variation of the foliage where I bought mine but some there is. I will come back with pics and also names of the plants.
I have thought hard and long and realized it would be better to grow in pots so I wonder what substrate to use.
I only have a little of pre-made acid substrate but I have more gardensoil with pH5.5-6.5 so sligtly acid as well as pine needles and peat and coarse seasand (will be washed salt free) and expanded burnt claypebbles (Lecca type). Would a combination af the garden soil with a bit of peat and needels be a good substrate? the neeles is to make the substrate more freedraining to compenste for the peat.
I also have styrofoam to add as an inert part of the compost if needed.
Any suggestions are happily recieved as I think I need to plant them to night.
If there is only the option of getting more pre-made stuff (acid soil) that can also be arranged but not that happily. ::) Scientist wants to make own soil and also cheap (worse than any Yorkshire man) but I try not to "save a peny lose a pound" even if that happens >:(.
Ashley and Mark thanks for the comments of the pomticum.
I have seen it from roadside and it can be thik layers of it here so I presume that with a bit more moistre it will be even happier. I liked it it was a nice pink or lavender colour if I recollect correctly.
Kind regards
Joakim from a cloudy Portugal
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Joakim, your rhodos should be fine in such a substrate as you describe. Water with rainwater if you can and make sure that they do get plenty water. You are correct, fre-draining compost is very important. Good luck!
Maggi
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I have now planted my Rhododendrons.
I hope it is free-draining. I watered it last evening so it was soaking and now it is humid not really wet so I presume that is free-draining. I also planted some tulips Queen of the night that I got from my sister-in- law that was in Holland.
The rhododendrons are one white Cheer from the caucasicum group and one more reddish John Walter (I always think of it as Johnny Walker so I have to look twice to wrire correctly the name). The read that was there had lost most of its buds so I passed on that one. :(
Here are the pics on how it looks.
PS they has seed heads so I wonder if they flowered again in early Autumn or it takes a looong time to develop seeds on rhods so that it is the narmal spring flowes that now set the seeds?
Kind regards
Joakim
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The seedheads will be from spring time. They take a long time to develop. These are rhodos that I would suggest you dead-head in future to keep them neat and promote quick regrowth after flowering.
Is the one you call white Cheer, perhaps Christmas Cheer? This is a pale pink flower which fades white... it does not flower at Christmas, though it can be as early as late January, February. 'John Walter' is a good old red variety which will flower in late April/ May. They should both be happy in their pots, they will need plenty water. It looks like there are quite a few flower buds there waiting for next year, you Mother-in -law will be delighted with them, I am sure.
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Thanks for that information Maggi
Here is the name tag of Cheer.
I will take away the seed heads.
I had the feeling that it is white with pink "outside" but maybe slight pinkish.
The mother-in-law was happy. :)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Yes, Joakim, that is the plant I know as 'Christmas Cheer' ... perhaps it has been decided to drop the first part of the name because people were disappointed when it did not flower at Christmas ??!! ::)
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PS they has seed heads so I wonder if they flowered again in early Autumn or it takes a looong time to develop seeds on rhods so that it is the narmal spring flowes that now set the seeds?
Joakim, I can see only flower buds here. Under my conditions at least dead-heading rhodos makes no difference whatever, so might only be worthwhile if tidying a plant in a prominent position.
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Hmm... I assumed that Joakim had seen seed heads, under the foliage.... now i am wondering if that was wrong and he is mistaking buds for seedheads?? Will get photo of seedheads, to avoid doubt for all!
Some general points
For most rhodos, deadheading does not make a huge difference, but, in some, the production of new growth is inhibited for a long time if seed heads remain. the seedheads can also look quite untidy and since most of us do not want the seed, it is common practice to dead head.
Lots of rhodos make out of season flowers and the question is often asked, " should these flowers be removed or will this weaken the plant or reduce next spring's flowering? " The answer to all that is NO! We have never found that flowering out of season, giving very welcome extra blooms in summer or autumn, has adversely affected the "normal" spring flowering. If a rhodo is giving you these extra flowers, just enjoy them! ;D Azaleas seem less keen to give bonus flowers! :-\
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Thanks Maggi, I agree completely about dead-heading. In my case it's just laziness ;)
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On the pics there is mostly buds since I took off most of the seed heads prior to taking the pics. The rest I took after.
I just hoped that the seed heads were an indication that they had bloomed in Autumn as well but the size of the seeds make me realize that it was just not the case as well as Your comments. ::)
Maggi Azaleas of the "indoor type" (pardon my latin) is growing well out in pots here in Portugal and give a Spring and a Autumn flowering all of them. So here they give two.
Thanks for all the information :-* ! !
Joakim
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Here are a couple of shots of Rhododendron seed heads/pods for informtion:
Seed pods on Rhododendron rex ssp. fictolacteum
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Two shots of the pods on Rhododendron ciliatum
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click the pix... they will enlarge
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You will also see from the pic of the rex fictolacteum how small his leaves are.... they should be MUCH bigger but this reduction in size is due to lack of water and more exposure to the eastern winds than he would like, poor soul. I should water him more, on a more regular basis.... mea culpa :-[ :'(
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Rhododendron.... I have some!!
Flowering time here but I haven't uploaded all the pics as yet. I can load one for starters, but I don't recall it's name.....
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It isn't as green as in the pic, just a lovely soft yellow. It had a woman's name from memory, and will quite possibly know it when I hear it.
Also flowering now or recently are/were Pink Silk (dwarf pink), Taurus (glowing red with pink overlay), 'Tyermanii (large species style with ruffled white flowers and peeling bark) and fastuosum flore-pleno (double mauve). Also another I've forgotten the name of momentarily. Dwarf plant with interesting oval leaves and large pale pink flowers. Name like 'Beverly' or something like that but I'd have to look it up. Definitely Rhodo time here. Trying to work out where I could fit one I saw in the nursery the other day..... Markeeta's Prize absolutely glows in deep pink. The problem is where to fit it, particularly as I still have to plant Bibiana (dark red).
Then of course there are all the various azaleas, both evergreen and mollis varieties.... all of which are technically Rhodos anyway aren't they? ;)
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Here's some recent or present flowerings in the Rhodos at my place....
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Rhododendron lineariifolium flowers here from autumn until spring, with it's main flowering Spetember/October. A little cutie, but not immediately recognisable as a Rhodo. The flowers behind it are Clematis 'Sweethart' which is a ground cover hybrid between Australian and New Zealand species. Very floriferous!!
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This is Rhododendron 'Markeeta's Prize' and is perhaps a little pinker than the picture. A very strong red-pink.
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Another unknown (hopefully someone can help with names of this and the one above) which I bought recently because I had never come across a colouration like it before. No idea unfortunately how big it will grow, because I have no name for it. Lovely creamy yellow (rather than a strong yellow) with consistent red spotting on all petals rather than just a darker lip etc. Good round flowerheads as well, so will make a strong show when established.
I also bought on my trip up north on Thursday a wonderful hose-in-hose salmon orange mollis azalea, but not sure whether I should be posting it here or not.
Enjoy.
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For those in the UK Ireland's 'Garden Heaven' magazine features Glendoik Rhodos this month
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Tyerman. There are a couple of wardii hybrids with just that colour. Most of them have a name with "Gold" to start with. I have in my garden one called 'Goldbukett'. The buds of it are copper yellow and it opens to a creame yellow inside. Maybe your unknown yellow could be that or another of those wardii hybrids. A couple of other examples are Goldika, Goldkrone and Graf Lennart.
Two pictures from my garden of 'Goldbukett'
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Kenneth,
Thanks for the info. The big difference between yours and mine in that mine doesn't have a distinct lip. That is why I was so taken with the flowers on this one and bought it without name or size etc. All the petals are identically spotted, giving a very different effect to the yellow with a dark red lip (which is also rather nice I might add!! ;D). I'm looking forward to mine growing and making a wonderful display in the future, but I would be liking a name so that I could prepare for how large it will become!! ::)
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Paul is the colour correct in your photo, if the colour a slightly deeper shade of yellow it is in other respects a little like R Rosa Stevenson. I hope I have the spelling correct
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Ian,
I think my picture is actually a little more yellow than the real flower, although that could easily be my computer monitor, as it is dodgy and needs replacement. I know my monitor shows things darker than they should be, so perhaps you may be seeing it somewhat lighter than I do. It has a good round head of flowers, if that is any help? Nothing at all "loose" about the flowerhead on this one. You give me a name to start checking on though. Thanks.
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Paul, the leaves could tell you a good deal about how big it may grow.. what are they like?
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Um..... Rhododendron-like? ::)
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that's not good enough... if I weren't sitting freezing here I'd give you a lecture o on the infinite variability of Rhod leaves... :D
I'll assume you mean they are ( to the uninitiated) standard rhodo-ish..... longer than wide... but.....
What length are they... indumentum on either/both/ only one side? Shape?........
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Pretty much standard. Little in the way of furriness, no significant ribbing like the species types. Normal relatively acute tip, not rounded or oval shaped leaves etc. "Standard" size given that it is one of the flowering ones jsut bought in an 8 inch pot (and therefore treated with whatever hormones to promote high flowering on small plants).
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Okay, maybe a pic, ???then?
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Hi Paul I did give you a name it was "Rosa Stevenson"
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Ian,
Sorry, was a typo. Meant to be "You GAVE me a name....", not "You GIVE me a name..."! When I saw your response I wondered what you meant, as of course you gave me the name, but when I went back and read my posting I realised why you thought I'd missed it.
Thanks.
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Paul with me it's anno domini that causes these things. Anyway if it is less yellow it is unlikely to be the one i said as pure yellows with the sort of foliage you show are few and far between but creams ????? you are on your own ???
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It's December so why is R pachysanthum flowering?
Also I could't resist R bureavii after the rain the buds are all cinnamon as are the undersides of the leaves
Pleasure are small at this time of year
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There must have been enough heat and good light to encourage the pachysanthum to open this extra flower.... very kind of it, in my opinion, since, as you say, these little pleasures are all the more welcome at this time of year.
R. bureavii is just one of the BEST rhodos around....that rich furry indumentum is just FAB! .... gorgeous every day of every year.... I LOVE IT!!
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Maggi you wouldn't think it was warm but I guess the Rhodie it is just plain confused. Yes Bureavii is one of my favourites I like all with indumentum and probably have overdone these types. I think it is good to remember that flowers last only 4 weeks but the foliage is wonderful on some of them all year. In fact with some its the main reason I grow them - if I had a bigger garden there would be a lot more.
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Nice to get a winter bonus :)
I saw a nice one in Lund (Sweden) just a few weeks ago blooming. That was a bonus.
Here in Portugal there is the gardencenter type azaleas that is blooming now and I must admit that I love that.
I might even add a picture of the hole lot later.
Now to my to questions: On the gardencenter azaleas the flowers do not always fall of by them selves but stay and get molded or just look brown and boring. I did a bit of tidying up and just took the flowers and did nothing to the possible seed pods that they seem to get. These does not seem to develop so I do not know if I need to take them away ???
That would be a lot of work and I hope it is not needed since I only see dry seed pods from earlier time. These doe not seem to be disturbing the plant or making it look worse.
Second question what to have below rhododendron planted in pots? I planted tulips partly because I was given them at the time and partly because I like them and hope they would look nice there. Now I realized that the watering of the rhododendron in the summer might not be idea for the tulips so they might not survive. For next time would cyclamen fit there ???
It could be the gardencenter persicum variety or even something from the seed exchange if I get lucky. Is there any example on what would thrive there. They get a lot of sun and hence the rhods need a lot of water if I understood things right.
Kind regards
Joakim
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To illustrate my questions earlier I have pics of the azaleas and the picked off flowers but do I need to try to get the seed caps as well? They do not seem to set seeds. ??? ???
I also have a picture of how not to take a picture of your pots that is in the shadow when you (and the camera) is in the sun. You can see the pots of Rhododendrons and they have now tulips around that I think might rot in summer when the Rhods are watered. Do You also think this will happen? Should I try to save the tulips after they have bloomed ??? ???
Do You have an alternative to plant with the Rhods? They do get a lot of sun at least in the summer time.
Would cyclamen fit or should I have primula there ??? ???
Input in this is very welcome
Kind regards
Joakim
PS sorry for the not so good pics
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Joakim, leaving the azalea seed pods on the plants shouldn't do them any harm. As for bulbs in the containers with the azaleas, tulips won't like the summer moisture. Narcissus of the trumpet type (not the small bulbocodium, triandrus etc) will tolerate the summer moisture better. Garden centre Cyclamen persicum would be good, as I find that they will stay in growth all year round if kept watered.
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Thanks Martin now I know what to do. 8) The cyclamen persicum generally become dormant here since they do not get water in summer so it will be interesting to see if I can keep them going.
btw my mother-in-law claims a big forehead is a sign of high intelligence and not recieding hairline like some people seems to believe so we can take comfort in that when the envious people try to tease us :)
Kind regards
Joakim
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A day without rain! We went to Culzean Castle Country Park to see what was in flower. The Snowdrops are up in their thousands but it will take a few days of sunshine to open them. Already the Rhododendrons have started flowering. Christmas Cheer has been out for 5 weeks and the unnamed red flowering variety will soon be in full bloom. The Camellias have also started to bloom. When I first started visiting this garden 45 years ago, mid to late March was the flowering time for these plants. Also we noticed some crocus flowering under the shelter of trees. Again, this is very early for here.
Benmore gardens is open on Thursday for a talk on plant collecting in Japan so we will have to go across for this and have a look around to see what is in flower in the Rhododendron line.
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A day without rain! We went to Culzean Castle Country Park to see what was in flower. The Snowdrops are up in their thousands but it will take a few days of sunshine to open them. Already the Rhododendrons have started flowering. Christmas Cheer has been out for 5 weeks and the unnamed red flowering variety will soon be in full bloom. The Camellias have also started to bloom. When I first started visiting this garden 45 years ago, mid to late March was the flowering time for these plants. Also we noticed some crocus flowering under the shelter of trees. Again, this is very early for here.
Benmore gardens is open on Thursday for a talk on plant collecting in Japan so we will have to go across for this and have a look around to see what is in flower in the Rhododendron line.
Nice to see Tom. You must be getting Cornish weather up in Ayr.
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Doing a little maintenence in the garden I brushed into R moupinense pink form breaking off a small piece. Pam put it in some water and hey presto we have our first flowers of the year. The ones on the main plant are not far behind hope the frost doesn't get em
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That is pretty, Ian... well done Pam for thinkingto try it... most folk never imagine that rhodos will open indoors likethat.... and who knows, later you may even put roots on it!
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Here is my Rhodo mallotum that I have been trying to get going for a long time. It is now in a place that suits it but it took me 3 moves to find it alas it may never be the specimen of my imagination but it is still lovely close up.
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There is a huge plant with similar leaves in an old garden near my house
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Ian - re: mallotum And buds!
Be intersting to cross it with bureavii or falconeri v eximeum for super indumentum.
johnw
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Mark can you photograph it perhaps one of us can name it. This species when properly grown (not by me) is one of the finest foliage plants.
John I have bureavii and a seedling of falconeri I think eximeum has good red indumentum anyway. All wonderful foliage plants but never many flower buds (non yet on the young falconeri) so hybridising may be tricky. Not sure that hybrids always make more attractive plants look at all the 000's of hybrids and only a handful really have any class and these are usually older ones. Just look at the Yak hybrids most can't hold a candle to the parent.
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Ian - mallotum is not hardy here but crossed with bureavii might just go here. Perhaps a mallotum cross that went for even more rusty indumentum might also produce a plant a bit easier to grow than mallotum - it certainly could stand a better root system.
johnw
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My Rh. cilipense decided to flower yesterday. Last night we had 3 inches of snow and then a slight frost. Much to my surprise this morning the snow melted and the flowers were intact. Tonight it is just on freezing so I expect I will have brown kleenex instead of flowers tomorrow. I took the picture by flash so I can remember what it looked like.
Yesterday, at Culzean Castle gardens I was surprised at the number of large Rhododendrons ready to burst into flower. The arboreums were well in flower. The macabeanums and sino grandes had buds the size of grapefruits and despite the frosts and cold, Christmas Cheer has been in bloom since late December with no ill affects. Things are looking good for a bumper crop of flowers on the west coast this year - saving a late frost.
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Nice to see some flowers Tom!?
I have bought some nice azaleas (the gardencenter variety ) but much nicer than normal I would say with bigger flowers and nicer colours. I was able to buy from the producer at an expo. They are normally in Mira at the coast of Portugal and do only sell to the public at August so I was lucky to be able to buy through a friend that ha pre-booked the plants.
I also bought a Rh Nova Zembla at Lidl to have in the middle.
I planted the plants in a vase. The vase had soil and sphagnum and with peanut shells as drainage. I was thinking in putting in two tea hybrid roses as well and some Lilly of the valley and some dailies and some Hosta. Would that be OK? I think they all can take a bit damper conditions.
I was also thinking in putting in some lilies and dahlias but they had not been delivered to the store. I now see that the dahlias would not fit anyway. But can I put down some lilies?
The picture is just to give an idea how it looks now and it need to be crowded since I garden on 120*34 cm times two.
Here is also an added picture of the azaleas and camellias from my mother-in-laws garden. The camellias looks a but sad since I used the once that had fallen to the ground but the azaleas I took from the plants.
The top 4 are the new ones.
Sorry about the mess around the first pic it is in the middle of the work so I would like the advice as soon as possible regarding dailies and roses. The answer about lilies are not that urgent but if You know about that as well I am happy about the information. Regarding lilies I am afraid it will be to moist for them. Lillies of gardencenter type.
Thanks in advance
Joakim
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After thinking a little I realized that the daylilies would not go in since they are mix colours and a big orange would not go so well with the others so I skipped them.
Some nice white lillies could go in and match the Virgo (white rose) and Diamonde Jubile (pink rose) and even a third rose in the front.
The red once are London Barcelona Oklahoma and Flourette none of Them is in the little rose book of Phillips and Rix so any suggestions?
If You think that lilies would have problems with a slightly wetter environ ment let me know. I have only grown them on a drier environment.
All the best
Joakim
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HELLO Joakim!
can see photos of my garden and azaleas in my photo album:
http://s277.photobucket.com/albums/kk78/jorgemvv1/
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Olá Jorge
That was a big album but I think I liked almost all of the plants so we have similar taste.
I did not see so much of the Azaleas so I hope to see them live instead.
It was with the help of Jorge I was able to get the lovly plants above.
I will post picture of them in close up soon.
All the best
Joakim
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Here are the pictures.
I could not get good colours with flash they looked very off so I tried to take without flash and the colours were better but best colours are in the above pics when the camera is not focusing on one colour.
First one with flash on the pink double where the red is seen in the corner.
Second red that is looking very wrong in colour but are actually a better red than most I have seen.
Third purple that is a nice dark one that did not come out well :( in the photos
Fourth pin semi-double with nice red dots
Fifth the light pink again
I like them and so does my wife so we are happy with them.
Take care
Joakim
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It's a lovely blowy spring day here, and the rhodos - rather ordinary ones - are in full swing:
R. arboreum
R. pink cv pre-1950; any suggestions as to what it might be?
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I had a look round the garden today to see what was stirring after the recent spell of milder weather. Cindy pointed out that our Rh.Proteiodes looked as if it was producing flower buds. We bought this from Glendoick last year on one of my whims not really expecting it to do much except keep small and have nice foliage. I have never seen it in flower and I hope that my flower buds are not just new growth. Have a look at the pictures and give me an opinion please. I will be rather chuffed if it flowers within the first year !
Misspelled the name !!!
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By jove! Lucky you... those do look like flower buds.... 8)
I was caught out last year with R. proteiodes when I told John W that he must seriously be kidding himself when he showed buds which he felt were flower buds... I was sure they were only growth buds but I was happily proved very wrong! ::)
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Yes Maggi, I vividly recall that. AND the plastic Nerine. ;D ;D ;D
Congratulations Tom. How old is the plant?
johnw
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Reply #171 on: December 06, 2008
Ian sorry for the long delay. I must go and take a photo soon
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John
I have no idea of its age. The size in the picture is the size it was when I bought it. I don't know if it is a layered cutting or if it was grown from seed.
It was planted on a dwarf wall in soil/grit compost, facing south. It gets the sun (when it appears) for about half a day. In winter it is partly shaded by my neighbour's garage. It can get scoured by wind and rain in this position. I probably got a plant with good flowering genes. Time will tell !
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Our chum Alan Newton spends a lot of time tending his alpine house plants, though he grows a lot outside too, but he seems to think I doubt his capabilities as a rhodo grower, because his wonderful elder daughter Victoria, many of you will know her as as tireless worker at the Hexham and Ponteland shows...
(we call her the Crown Princess :-* ).... has sent me these photos to prove her Dad can grow rhodos.... and here they are..... he seems to have got the hang of them quite well! ;D
click the pix to enlarge them!
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This seems to be doing well this year. It had to be lifted last year to make way for the new Access frame (behind it in the picture). It clearly did not mind the move, indeed is flowering as well as ever
Rhododendron 'Sapphire'
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So Tom.... is the R. proteiodes definitely flowering? Would love to see a followup shot.
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I am still not certain. They are beginning to look like new growth butthey are still off-white. I have never seen this variety in flower so I do not know what to expect. It obviously likes where it is and is healthy. I should know in a week's time and I will post another picture.
On a different tack, we visited Cox's garden centre on our circuitous way home after the Perth show. Despite my best intentions to only look and admire, I came away with 5 Rhod./Azaleas -Albrechtii, Hippophaiodes Haba Shan, Laponica hyb. Night Sky, Fabia and a dwarf evergreen azalea Red Panda.
My excuse was that we had gardening vouchers as Christmas presents that needed used. It wasn't real money except that the plastic card had to make up the excess !!
Looking out at my back garden ,(in sunshine),I can't see a square foot of ground that has not been planted. Today reality will set in. I do not have an Argyllshire estate of 200 acres of mountain and woodland but an overcrowded suburban garden of 70 square yards. I will find a space somewhere.
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Tony,
WE always find a space.... somewhere!! ::) I think that is the catch cry of serious gardeners, isn't it? ;D
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Just coming out now .............and the scent :o
R loderi King George
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This is the very first Rhododendron to flower in my place. All others are weeks away.
It is R mucronulatum. I bought a tiny seedling many years ago, planted it and forgot it.
A couple of times I mistook it for a salix of kind. :-[
Then one spring a couple of years ago a guest came back after an unguided tour in the garden.
"What is that pink Shrub Göte?" I: What shrub?? ?? I have no shrub flowering now. ???
But I had. ;D ;D ;D Now I have the problem that I cannot find any more of them.
Göte
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Hi all,
My first rhodo pics on this topic, I even think everyone should have more than one rhodo in his garden.
1) R. orbiculare
2) R. orbiculare
3) R. hotei
4) R. hotei
5) R. sutchuenense
Robin
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Rhododenedron 'Hotei' is one of the nicest yellow hybrids, I think. With us here in Aberdeen it flowers later than this, more towards June.
Sadly ours was being overgrown by other bushes and has left us for a new home in a friend's garden :-X
It has good parents to make it so pretty, of course:
[dichroanthum x fortunei ssp discolor] x [soulei xwardii]
I love that the calyx is the same yellow as the flower. :)
We took out R. orbiculare because it was getting out of shape beside a really good Sorbus szechwanense and now we only have a little plant from a layer of the old one.
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Robin,
nice pics. I was wondering when you would show some of your rhodo's. I like the orbiculare especially.
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Robin - Show us more of your rhododendrons. A cracking good Hotei.
johnw
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Here is a favourite of mine R Lady Chamberlain raised from a cutting from my dads plant. A cinnarbarinun hybrid I wished it thought more of me and kept a better shape
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Ian, your R Lady Chamberlain is the most unusual colour and a lovely bell shape hanging in a cluster. It's wonderful that you grew it from a layer of an original your father grew even if it is not quite the shapely rhodo you remember him growing...it means so much to have a sense of continuity in things we grow so plants have a special meaning in our gardens. :)
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Ian
"Lady Chamberlain" looks superb . I will look out for it.
Eric
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Eric, if you go in search of Lady Chamberlain or other R. cinnabarinum types, be aware that they are horribly prone to powdery mildew and alo tend not to have the neates growth habits.
I wonder if the new plants being grown by the likes of Jens Bircks in Denmark will be more robust constitutionally ??? ::) ???
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the likes of Jens Birck in Denmark
And recipient last week of the American Rhododendron Society's Gold Medal, its highest award!
Maggi - I think his 'What A Dane' is not subject to powdery mildew.
johnw
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Ian,
I love your lady!! ;D
Robin,
The R. orbiculare is stunning (love that pink and those wonderful leaves), and the hotei looks like such a good yellow. I don't really have that much experience with the species Rhododendrons, although there are many, many of them here on the forum that I would love to try after seeing them here. Your orbiculare is right up there on the list I think, as it is such a nice combination.
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It's been Rhodie and Azalea time here as well -
Here's some from my garden.
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Luc what a lovely display 8)
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Ian, your R Lady Chamberlain is the most unusual colour and a lovely bell shape hanging in a cluster. It's wonderful that you grew it from a layer of an original your father grew even if it is not quite the shapely rhodo you remember him growing...it means so much to have a sense of continuity in things we grow so plants have a special meaning in our gardens. :)
Robin Dad and I bought one at the same time from different sources and his was the best so I stole a cutting ::).
Eric, if you go in search of Lady Chamberlain or other R. cinnabarinum types, be aware that they are horribly prone to powdery mildew and alo tend not to have the neates growth habits.
I wonder if the new plants being grown by the likes of Jens Bircks in Denmark will be more robust constitutionally ??? ::) ???
Maggi I think it depends where you grow these I know they are not good in the north but I frequently see good cinnarbarinum types in many gardens and although not beauties when out of flower (they are a bit leggy) there is nothing quite like them in full flower
Here is a piccy of R. cinn Biskra at Lea Gardens - I bought one as a result
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Absolutely beautiful, Luc, would love to spend a few hours wandering around your garden.
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Luc,
What a wonderful display. You have a very beautiful garden!!!!! :o The yakushimanum stands out, doesn't it! Lovely.
I think I am going to have to find out whether there are cinnabarinum or hybrids available here in Aus as I love that flower shape. I think I have seen some like that before, so hopefully I can see them again in nurseries. The ones shown in the topics here have been beautiful, particularly that lovely bronzey gold one and the red with yellow tips. Thanks all. 8)
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Ian - Lovely big Biskra. It is clean as a whistle here, where it can be grown.
johnw
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Absolutely beautiful, Luc, would love to spend a few hours wandering around your garden.
Totally agree with Helen, the display in your garden is magnificent Luc (makes up for your weather today!)
What is so gorgeous is the juxtaposition of rhododendron colours with form - I have never seen such harmonious planting before and admire it enormously. My favourite rhodo you have is R Yakushimanum (is it scented?) but it's also lovely to see Tuinzichten mingling with the rock garden in front - are the Lavender and magenta both the same name as in your captions? I think I can spot your Iris Hookeri in the background too :)
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Luc - Lovely and well-grown rhododendrons. Is that Percy Wiseman next to the yakushimnaum?
Robin - You just can't beat a yak.
johnw
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Thanks for the kind words everyone ! It will encourage me when we start deadheading them .... ::)
Yes John - the one next to Yakushimanum is indeed Percy Wiseman.
I'm afraid the Yak isn't scented Robin but it does have other assets doesn't it ? ;) It is my favourite, and going by the reactions here, I'm not alone with that point of view. I've put you on the wrong foot with the captions 'Tuinzichten' which is Dutch for "Garden views" - a caption I use for the more general pictures. And I agree with you that the Rhoddies fit in well as background for a rock garden. The lavender one and the magenta one are some 20 odd years old and I've never known their names, they were pretty 'common' but they build a nice corner I think.
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The lavender one and the magenta one are some 20 odd years old and I've never known their names, they were pretty 'common' but they build a nice corner I think.
Luc - Might be English Roseum, Roseum Elegans (the "pinker" of the two) and Catawbiense Boursault, and the red perhaps Nova Zembla. All are grown here but you have access to so many others I am most likely mistaken.
johnw
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Catawbiense is the one John ! Now I remember - the name Nova Zembla does ring a bell as well, but as I wrote it's over 20 year ago...
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Wow Luc, gorgeous. Is your soil very acidic?
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Leuke tuinzichten, Luc! ;)
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but as I wrote it's over 20 year ago...
A mere flicker of time in the life of a rhododendron. ;D
johnw
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Wow Luc, gorgeous. Is your soil very acidic?
It's not all that acidic David - it's a sandy/loam - more sand than loam actually - I tend to add some peat in the planting holes for Rhoddies but I doubt it there's any peat left in the soil now...
Anyway, they seem to like it ! ;)
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They certainly do.
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Rhododendron quinquefolium fall colour.
First photo after using a brush cutter for four hours non stop. Second taken when the shaking hand syndrome had calmed down.
johnw
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And another reason.
R. thomsonii Ludlow & Sherriff #2847.
johnw
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John, that bark colour is really great - I love the way Betula shows its colours too - but altogether i think the bark and trunks of trees are fascinating - thanks for showing - I would love to more about the rhododendron quinquefolium, whose fall colour is so intense 8)
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John, that bark colour is really great - I love the way Betula shows its colours too - but altogether i think the bark and trunks of trees are fascinating - thanks for showing - I would love to more about the rhododendron quinquefolium, whose fall colour is so intense 8)
Robin - R. quinquefolium is very slow to set flower buds. From seed it takes at least 10 years or more. I got my plant from the Rhododendron Species Foundation, it was a good size but took forever to have a flower. Someone asked the planstman Hideo Suzuki when it would flower and he said "corky bark, corky bark". Sure enough when the base of mine started to go corky I had the first flower. This species has dramatic bark in old age, corky and peeling. It would seem to need a bit more heat than we can cupply, still it grows on and the autumn colour is indeed exceptional. It will become almost tree like in its native Japan. The new foliage is spectacular, green with a red edging - just visible in this poor shot.
johnw
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John, your Rhododendron quinquefolium is beautiful, such a brilliant red. The trunk and bark remind me of some gum trees, just wonderful.
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John, your Rhododendron quinquefolium is beautiful, such a brilliant red. The trunk and bark remind me of some gum trees, just wonderful.
Helen - Not many gum trees down this way! ;D ... there are black gums and sweetgums around town but I guess they don't count.
The colour of quinquefolium in the fall is hard to define, sort of a smokey or matte red/pink, I think of crushed raspberries soaked into a white shirt.
johnw
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Thanks John for your full description of R.quinquefolium - it sounds a wonderful Rhododendron and such an interesting story behind its flowering. :)
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When I saw your leaves, John, I rushed out to look at mine, wondering
how I could have missed such a blaze of colour in my garden.
One leaf is red, and all the rest are bronzy. Maybe it is too
early yet. I will keep my eye on it. We don't get fantastic fall
colour on the Pacific coast, though.
I bought my quinquefolium as a tiny cutting in 1974, and it began blooming in
1986.
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I bought my quinquefolium as a tiny cutting in 1974, and it began blooming in
1986.
Diane - How big is it now? I heard Suzuki giave a talk in Norway on the deciduous azalea species in Japan. I was floored. They looked like Cornus kousa in the mountains, absolutely amazing and huge. R. nudipes he recommended highly, but they're all wonnderful.
johnw
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Oh, nothing like my Cornus kousa.
Quinq is about two metres high.
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Rhododendron bureavii Ovate, great arguements if this was bureavii or bureavioides. 1-3
Rhododendron roxieanum Oreonastes 4
Rhododendron roxieanum Globigerum 5
Rhododendron roxieanum hmmm - halfway between roxieanum Oreonastes and roxieanum Globigerum? 6
Rhododendron roxieanum hmmm again 7
Rhododendron principis (formerly vellereum) with its unusual spongy indumentum 8
johnw
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John,
is the Rh. bureavii Ovate a special selection? I only know Rh. bureavii with smaller leaves. Your's look superb with the large leaves.
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Great undersides to the leaves too - lovely variation in colour and shape of your Rhodos, John
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John,
is the Rh. bureavii Ovate a special selection? I only know Rh. bureavii with smaller leaves. Your's look superb with the large leaves.
Uli - I think it is a selected form of bureavii as it is very good. In a garden yesterday we saw a bureavii Award of Merit Form that one looked exactly like Ovate. The " Ovate" came from Sandy Rhododendron about 10 years ago and was sold at our society's sale. I wonder if the nursery lost the A.M. tag and simply meant to describe it as bureavii (ovate leaf), calling it Ovate Form is another matter and certainly confuses us all needlessly. I think it is the A.M. form.
johnw
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Last go after racing around the province with our guest speaker to private gardens.
At one garden a young plant perhaps the best species - R. insigne with its burnished undersides. A treat all winter long. I've had several selctions since 1995 and nary a flower bud but no complaints as it is simply the best all year long. When it flowers it will be a very special ocassion.
The gardener and our speaker spent time chasing a wooly bear caterpillar and the former confessed to finding them in late December and bringing them into the garage for the winter,
johnw
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Gorgeous leaves, John, a real library of Rhodo information, thanks so much
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Gorgeous leaves, John, a real library of Rhodo information, thanks so much
Glad you enjoyed them Robin.
johnw
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Howdy All,
The Rhododendrons are starting up here. Here's a couple of deciduous azaleas in flower at the moment. Anyone have a name for the double white one? I bought it without a name and have never found one.
Please click on the pics for a larger version.
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Hi everyone,
Rhododendron 'Taurus', a little more red than in this picture, but this is FAR better than my previous camera could ever represent it. Being a Taurean starsign myself, I just had to have it. This plant has quite a history in my garden now, having scared it into flowering after a number of years. ::)
Please click on the pic for a larger version.
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We don't grow rhodies at Redesdale but there were a few at last weekend's Ferny Creek Hort Society Show. Mostly vireyas these days, but maybe that's because of the early season.
The first is the Blue Ribbon entry from the cutflower section of the Rock Garden Section
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cheers
fermi
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A few more from the Show.
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Lovely! Believe it or not I have a vireya rhodo growing in my garden here, outside under the eaves. Remains to be seen whether it will ever flower or not, and survive if we get a cold winter of course! :o I love the flowers and it would be lovely to succeed with it. Have had it for years when I had a glasshouse. I think the one that survives is my white flowered one, but will have to find that out if it ever flowers. ;D
Thanks for the pics.
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Fermi - Thanks for all the rhodo shots. I particularly like R. tuba and R. christii with those wonderful green bases.
johnw
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Fermi, your vireya pix have made my day! I covet them all!
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Fermi, your vireya pix have made my day! I covet them all!
Maggi,
I'm glad you liked them - I was thinking of you when taking the pics!
cheers
fermi
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Howdy All,
I've still got some Rhododendron flowering here at the moment. Rhododendron fastuosum flore plena has opened in the last few days. A beautiful shade of lilac, with it's semi double flowers. I have another Rhodo to post when I prepare some more pics later. I thought I'd put this one up now though, for those who are needing a Rhodo fix. 8)
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Fermi, your vireya pix have made my day! I covet them all!
Me too - what a show!
Gerd
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Nice one Paul, is your garden soil on the acid side or do you grow them in pots?
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David,
No idea what my soil pH is (Yes, I know that is not good)..... I grow a lot of Camellias, Azaleas, Rhododendrons here successfully, but also Magnolias etc thrive and they tend to prefer alkaline soil I think. I just enjoy them and don't think about it too much. ;D The Rhodo I just showed is about 8 foot tall and about the same wide. It is the seond largest I have, the largest being 'Tyermanii', which is about 9 foot or more and I'm letting it go as high as it wants. Pushing some of them upwards leaves me some space underneath for other things. ;D ;D
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Some of the Azalea mollis are going over, other ones are coming into full flower. I don't have a name for this one unfortunately.
Please click on the pic for a larger version.
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Wow Paul, really lovely :)
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Some of the Azalea mollis are going over, other ones are coming into full flower. I don't have a name for this one unfortunately.
Might it be 'Mother's Day', Paul?
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Maggi,
Thanks. 8) I don't think I bought this one with a name originally, or if I did, that one doesn't ring any bells. Any others that might fit?
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A few Vireyas are just starting to flower. This one is Tropic Glow x saxifragoides. Very dwarf and compact after about 12 years, 13cm wide x 11cm high, and as you can see it looks much like a campylogynum.
johnw
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John, what a lovely flower - how big is it on relation to the plant?
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Robin - It is very much bigger than the leaves and very big compared with the plant. I'd guess the flower is about 3.5cm long. You can just see the leaves in the background.
johnw
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Thanks John, it's a real star :)
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John do you think this is the same plant.
Angie :)
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Rhododendron "Blue Tit"
A very confused Rhododendron I feel ,in full flower today. :o :o :o
Eric
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John and Angie,
Great little Vireya. I didn't realise there were forms that diminutive. I wonder if they're over here in Aus?
Eric,
Nice blue. 8)
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Rhododendron "Blue Tit"
A very confused Rhododendron I feel ,in full flower today. :o :o :o
Eric
A lot of confusion in nature nowadays Eric. We've been having rainy, windy but warm (up to +17°C) weather for the last 2 or 3 weeks now and I noticed a frog splashing into the pond yesterday... Normally they disapear into their Winter quarters for hibernation early October here... Obviously, they don't read the calendar :-\ ::) ;D
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Angie - It certainly looks like it but the foliage is a bit different than the one here. The foliage on mine is smaller and very hard. I am blown away by the luxiance of yours. I have another clone which is more compact and a slightly different colour.
Both came from a friend in California but I saw the same two in the Vireya house at RBGE. What was your source?
johnw
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Rhododendron "Blue Tit"
A very confused Rhododendron I feel ,in full flower today. :o :o :o
Eric
We have had a major bloom of most lepidotes here this autumn. Usually we get a few flower but not on the whole plant as this year. R. primuliflorum gave a good show for 6 weeks whereas in the Spring 10 days would be considered good.
Puzzling.
johnw
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Hi John
I just found it sitting in a corner of a garden centre in Edinburgh, they new nothing about it, no label on it to tell me the name or anything else but at £5 I thought it was worth it. The garden centre thought it wasn't hardy so I have always kept it in a pot and put it in my polytunnel just to give it some winter protection,I have had it for three years and it flowers lovely. Just wandered if they were wrong about its hardiness.
Angie :)
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Angie, I too love your rhodo.... I do think it will be enjoying and indeed, needing, the protection of your poly tunnel It is a real stonker!! Fab!!
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I wrote to Kenneth Cox last night and he sent a shot of the sibling of yours called Saxon Glow. Saxon Glow is the other one I have. So yours and mine - posted before - appear to be the same thing. And I am happy to have a name for the sibling. Mine must be so small due to the lean conditions here.
I am very surprised yours survived in a tunnel after last winter. R. saxifragoides is supposed to tolerate a bit of frost. How cold do you think it got in your polyhouse?
johnw
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Hi John, your Saxon glow is stunning. I had a look at Kenneth Cox's catalogue and I was amazed to read that it was more for indoors I think I have been lucky but I don't want to loose the plant so I shifted it today into my greenhouse. Last winter was a long cold one so I do think I have been lucky it probally got down to -3 and the year before that wasn't to bad I do hang fleece over the plants that are a bit tender. I am glad that you posted a picture of your plant as I would have been disappointed if I had lost mine. I do think these plants hold onto there flowers for such a long time. Isn't this forum great that's another plant identified and even more important I found out about the conditions that it requires. Thanks John.
Angie :)
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Angie - While I have Saxon Glow the shot is one Ken Cox sent this morning. Mine is very dwarf and not so vigorous as in the picture.
You were very lucky to have had the plant survive the cold. That -3c was probably close to if not its limit.
johnw
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John, I think you are right, I was lucky this time, enjoy your plants.
Angie :)
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Tropic Glow x saxifragoides #1 in flower here today. The second photo shows the true colour. Twenty fat buds on a tiny plant.
Still more to come on #2 which started flowering in November.
johnw
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Lovely flowers, John, they really do have a tropical feel, almost waxy looking, and I love the shiny dark stamens - 20 buds is a good cache to look forward to in flower :)
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Really nice colour, I do love that shape of flower, cant wait till my plants start to flower.
Would be nice to see more if you can.
Angie :)
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In the mid 1990's I grew seed of Rhododendron sinogrande. It's a fun thing to grow as its growth is so rapid. The third leaf formed is usually so big the seedling almost falls out of the pot. As a young vigorous plant the leaves can be up to a meter long. Unfortunately it is far too tender for here though I planted one in the south of Nova Scotia and with snow cover it lived for 5 years though it never grew with the same vigour. It is hardy to about -7c, even then it can be damaged.
I gave two seedlings to Scots. One a neighbor's father who lives in Campbeltown (Argyll) and to another friend's father who lives in Kishorn (Strathcarron, Ross-shire). After 15 years the Kishorn plant is the first to set buds and is flowering just now. It's growing in a windy spot just meters from the sea and over-looking Skye to the west. Winter cannot have been too bad there.
Rather exciting. More when it opens fully.
It would be interested to hear of ones growing in colder areas of Scotland.
johnw
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Hi all,
Just for Rhododendrons lovers ( who unfortunately I'm not ) this pic of Rhododendron Arboreum. Photo taken in Lyon's BG / France.
Hope it'll be of interest to some of you
J-P
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Rhododendron mucronulatum Woodland Pink x Cornell Pink - the very top of a 4m bush this morning. This plant came through the great freeze of mid April 1981 with almost open buds unscathed.
No frost here this morning but tops of pots slightly frozen just 4 blocks away.
Jean-Patrick - the arboreum looks like a painting from the late 1800's, magnificent!
johnw
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This pic was taken on March 29th but I am just getting round to posting it now. Rhododendron praecox flowered well this year ( at least above roe deer browsing height). The flowers must have lasted 5 or 6 days before getting frosted. Better than last year when they were frosted in bud and didn't open at all.
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Rhododendron macabeanum is flowering well this year having escaped the frost. I bought this as a 30 cm high rooted cutting at Alpines 81 and it is now about 3 metres.
My local expert tells me that it is impossible to root cuttings but this is what I was told at the time.
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Wow, that is a wonderful Rhododendron Tony - I love the photo looking up into the 'bee' inside each of the flowers.
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Spring has finally arrived ! We have been round a few of our favourite gardens in the last 3 weeks seeing what has survived. Surprisingly there appears to be very little damage considering the severity and length of the frost. Rh. edgeworthii seems to be the worst affected - I do not know if mine is still alive -time will tell. I had kept it in the greenhouse from Nov./April until last year when I planted it out in a sheltered site. My reasoning was that we never get very low temperatures in winter and almost no snow. WRONG!!!!!
Anyway, here are a few pictures of what is flowering at present. These were taken at Culzean Castle Country Park yesterday. After years of neglect, they have thinned out the woodland and undergrowth to reveal some specimen plants. As there were no names on them, I have not guessed any although I am reasonably sure of what they are. However hybrids occurr and some have self seeded naturally.
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A few more
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Tom - Great shots and some splendid plants.
I'd hazard a guess that 185 is a whopping good R. calophytum.
johnw
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I agree with John - a superb view of these wonderful Rhododendrons in full bloom and the colours are stunning - the contrast of the wine and white in 185 is beautiful. Thanks for showing these Tom, I hope the volcanic dust doesn't spoil them.
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In flower and bud today Rhododendron primuliflorum (deep pink) ex Glendoick Gardens. It is a bit redder than this and the scent of freshly crushed strawberries is wafting in the air around it from its scaly foliage.
johnw
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A real beauty John :)
I love the colour of the bud and the leaf together and like the thought of crushed strawberries scent - is it released by the warmth of the sun or when it brushes against you?
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A real beauty John :)
I love the colour of the bud and the leaf together and like the thought of crushed strawberries scent - is it released by the warmth of the sun or when it brushes against you?
Robin - It's a desperate one to photograph. I was surprised the scent was about as I don't recall having brushed up against the plant. The sun was shining so it may be a wafter. There's a huge clump of related species and hybrids - sargentianum, trichostomum, Bridal Bouquet, Sarled, Maricee - out on the coast and I seem to recall the fragrance was detectable from a yard.
johnw
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For those of you who like Vireya Rhododendrons I have posted a selection on a new thread "FCHS Autumn Show"
Here's a taster!
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cheers
fermi
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How do I get to:
http://www.glendoick.com/content.php?page=redfoliage
Both clicking and 'copy and paste' redirects me to Glendoick.com
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How do I get to:
http://www.glendoick.com/content.php?page=redfoliage
Both clicking and 'copy and paste' redirects me to Glendoick.com
Good question, Wallace! :-\ It seems there have been recent changes to the Glendoick website... it used to be more easy to navigate and I remember a 'red-foliage section' in the past but it seems impossible to find now. :'(
Perhaps an emailed query to them would get help?
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'Everred' and 'Wine and Roses' are two of the red leaved types, as well as Red Elizabeth Lockhart and Red Walloper, if I recall, tho' how many of these are listed meantime I don't know.
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The Enkianthus campanulatus are having a bumper crop of flowers this year. This one was bought as 'Red Bells' but I see no difference from straight campanulatus.
Also Starling's Menzesia 'Spring Morn'.
johnw
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Pix 1 & 2 Another superb Rhododendron species to grow is R. fortunei. Very big flowers with a superb fragrance, long lasting as well. Hardy where winters are not too hard.
Pix 3 A hardier sub is a locally developed hybrid nad not quite so fragrant, fortunei x smirnowii, called 'Bellefontaine'. We were surprised to see it offered in Germany.
Both get monsterously big in time = more fragrance.
johnw
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we are also enjoying fortunei and smirnowii at the moment ...... so I am interested to see your Canadian hybrid, which is very pretty, in a pink fashion........I doubt I would have been able to discern the smirnowii connection for the look of it, but the hardiness gene will be very helpful and lead to commercial success .....well, it's already gone to Germany so the proof is there..... :)
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Gorgeous flowers John !! :o :o
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Your garden must smell heavenly, John, what a great time of year, anymore Rhodendrons flowering?
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At the other end of the country from John, Rhododendron occidentale
is currently scenting the air all around, just like it does down in the
Siskiyous (southern Oregon, northern California).
I grew these from seed. The pink one is way over my head, but the
white one is much shorter.
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I try to wait and see what happened with my cinnabarinums.
And it paid off.
In 08 this cinnabarinum roylei lost 90% of foliage.
In 09 was not looking very well but hanging on.
Then, this spring every thing was change, looking very well
and put on "some" flowers.
After a winter with 70 days of at least one foot of snow cover
and 90 days of nightfrost.
jens
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Wonderful! I noticed recently that some plants have managed to
overcome the diseases that afflicted them. Not just rhododendrons
with powdery mildew, either. Dogwoods seem to have recovered
from anthracnose. About 20 years after I thought it was dead, a
Cornus florida has revealed itself by flowering.
Crest seems healthier this year, which is good because I haven't
found another with such luminous yellow flowers.
Unfortunately, all of my cinnabarinums died long ago. This year I looked
for seeds of them on seedlists, thinking that if I sow enough, some seedlings
might have genes for resistance. However, there were none on the
ARS seedlist.
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Every garden should indeed have some and here are some of mine :)
Rhododendron 'Creamy Chiffon'
R. occidentale
R. 'Persil'
R 'Wren'
A pair of R. 'Madame van Hecke'
Graham
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And some more!
R. myrtilloides
R. campylogynum - should have a name but I have lost the label.
R. 'Egret'
R. 'Arctic Tern'
Un-named???
Another un-named but I'm sure this is from Glendoik and I have lost the label. It looks quite blue in the photo but is really purple. Anyone have any ideas (Magggi???).
Graham
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Lovley selection, Graham.
edited.......
Your myrtilloides is another sort of campylogynum, posibly ssp. charopeum, your campylogynum isn't that... it's a calostrotum of some sort...
I don't know the name of the pink azalea probably either Lemur or Wombat..... and the last one could be one of several...maybe Intrifast..... I'll try to get my brain in gear, or John might ride to the rescue ;D
Listening to the Beechgrove Potting Shed live from Gardening Scotland at the minute!! ;D ;D
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Lovley selection, Graham.
edited.......
Your myrtilloides is another sort of campylogynum, posibly ssp. charopeum, your campylogynum isn't that... it's a calostrotum of some sort...
I don't know the name of the pink azalea probably either Lemur or Wombat..... and the last one could be one of several...maybe Intrifast..... I'll try to get my brain in gear, or John might ride to the rescue ;D
Listening to the Beechgrove Potting Shed live from Gardening Scotland at the minute!! ;D ;D
Hmmmm Thanks Maggi.
What a mix up!!!!!
I have to admit I lost the labels on what I though were myrtilloides and campylogynum and in my investigations 'best guessed' them, and thought I recognised the names but apparently not.
I will await your brain getting into gear ;) or John on his trusty steed :)
Graham
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Hi again,
I forgot to add this one to the last two groups. I should perhaps now put this into the 'plants for ID now as I got some of the others wrong. However, I haven't put a name to this one just in case I get it wrong also, and I've added a couple of close ups.
Maggi I feel sure you will know this.
Rhodo white; unsure of the name
Graham
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Graham - Looking at your first pic ithe leaves look like campylogynum but the flowers are too open-faced so suggest it may be a campylogynum hybrid. Also myrtilloides would be much more compact and flowers smaller than regular campylogynum. The second pic Maggi may be right, this is a very confusing lot especially with the new (what is it 25 years now!) names- calostrotum or even calostrotum Keleticum Group or saluenense. The evergreen azalea isn't Wombat which is prostrate and has a noticeable blotch, I don't know Lemur so Maggi may be correct. The last photo, I recognize the leaves but can't put a name on it.
Now the last posting showing three shots of a white is most certainly the white campylogynum. Congratulations it is very well grown, I find it desperately difficult to grow well and worse to get through the winters here. :o
johnw
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a cute white campylogynum, you could call it R. camp. leucanthum..... :)
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a cute white campylogynum, you could call it R. camp. leucanthum..... :)
That's it Maggi .... 'Leucanthum' or var. leucanthum.
Do you agree the first pinky "camp" is too open-faced? Some of the flowers in profile look okay.
Maybe Jens can help us on these and the calos???
johnw
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a cute white campylogynum, you could call it R. camp. leucanthum..... :)
Hooray! I worked that one out correctly. That's what I put on the label last week ;D
Thanks Maggi and John.
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Hi Maggi & John,
I have just been out in the rain to get a couple more photos that may help with the ID's of a couple of the Rhodo's.
This is the one I named Myrtilloides now named in the photos as NOT myrtilloides. Maybe these will help.
The flowers start quite deep pink and then fade. The habit of the plant is quite open but I have pruned it back a couple of times.
Graham.
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Could the bluey/purple one be an impeditum hybrid, such as Blue Tit or Sapphire (which is Blue Tit backcrossed with impeditum). The only thing is, it seems too late in the season, mine of these varieties are in flower in April. ???
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The pinky flatter flowered campy might be a 'Patricia'....it's hard to tell colour from a photo but I don't think it's 'Plum Branklyn'
I don't think it's one of those, Diane... too late for them and also the flower form... those tend not to have such neat little pompom heads.
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Could the bluey/purple one be an impeditum hybrid, such as Blue Tit or Sapphire (which is Blue Tit backcrossed with impeditum). The only thing is, it seems too late in the season, mine of these varieties are in flower in April. ???
Hi Diane and Maggi,
I should have said that all these in the post were what I have in the collection but not necessarily flowering now. This one is an early flowering one over by the time the others are in flower. So an impeditum hybrid sounds possible and sounds familiar.
Graham
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The pinky flatter flowered campy might be a 'Patricia'....it's hard to tell colour from a photo but I don't think it's 'Plum Branklyn'
I don't think it's one of those, Diane... too late for them and also the flower form... those tend not to have such neat little pompom heads.
OK, agree about the timing on the blue.
My Patricia doesn't have flat flowers, similar bell shape to campylogynum but bigger bells
and for comparision of the blue one (pictures taken around mid April):
Blue tit
Sapphire
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Not flat but flatter than staight campylogynum... so I think Patricia is still in the frame for this ID.
I still incline to 'Intrifast' for the purpley one, the earlier flowering suits that, too. It shows the influnce of fastigiatum in colour, foliage and flower head.
It might be 'Blue Diamond', rather than 'Blue Tit', but I think the colour of Graham's is more intense. :-\
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Not flat but flatter than staight campylogynum... so I think Patricia is still in the frame for this ID.
I still incline to 'Intrifast' for the purpley one, the earlier flowering suits that, too. It shows the influnce of fastigiatum in colour, foliage and flower head.
It might be 'Blue Diamond', rather than 'Blue Tit', but I think the colour of Graham's is more intense. :-\
The name Patricia associated with a Dwarf Rhodo in my collection sits deep in my memory bank, so I am inclined to agree with that.
As for the blue one; I think we are close but none of the names you have suggested rings a bell. It is a very deep purple not a dark blue and its habit is quite compact possibly 0.75m in 15years.
Perhaps we will need to leave this until next year when I can get better photos.
Thank you both.
Graham
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Not flat but flatter than staight campylogynum... so I think Patricia is still in the frame for this ID.
I still incline to 'Intrifast' for the purpley one, the earlier flowering suits that, too. It shows the influnce of fastigiatum in colour, foliage and flower head.
It might be 'Blue Diamond', rather than 'Blue Tit', but I think the colour of Graham's is more intense. :-\
Oh dear these Lapponica type are a real headache. I went out and compared 'Intrifast' from Gendoick and the leaves are shaped differently and the new ones decidely blue; this may be a selected Intrifast I have but no shine on the older leaves. Another problem is getting the colour right with a camera but the colour is close to 'Intrifast' (intricatum x fastigiatum).
re: The 'Blue Tit' shown. Here the habit is different, wider than tall but that may be climatic.
re: 'Sapphire' It seems it is more purplish in the photo than the real mccoy. I don't have it and it has been years since I have seen it but the blue had a real sparkle. Here's a shot of the F2. Note the colour discrepancy - the wider shot is close to the true colour.
One thing to keep in mind that many of these purported impeditum hybrids are probably fastigiatum hybrids as the true impeditum is not so common and may been used in the old crosses like the ones named after Cornish towns - St. Tudy etc. Every plant still sold as impeditum here is fastigiatum.
johnw
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The small size over that period of growth does suggest either Intrifast or even straight fastigiatum... which I have a nice shiny leaved form of, quite like Graham's.
I thought by the initial photo that the plant might be rather larger than it really is.
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The small size over that period of growth does suggest either Intrifast or even straight fastigiatum... which I have a nice shiny leaved form of, quite like Graham's.
I thought by the initial photo that the plant might be rather larger than it really is.
You are all working really hard on this. Many thanks.
I have no recollection of purchasing any of the named varieties that you are suggesting but fastigiatum is something that is familiar though it could be familiar for no other reason than I have seen it somewhere recently. The leaves are indeed shiny as you suggest Maggi.
As you can tell I am an enthusiast not an expert and I wish that I had had the same enthusiasm to have my plants named 15 years ago as I do now.
Graham
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The small size over that period of growth does suggest either Intrifast or even straight fastigiatum... which I have a nice shiny leaved form of, quite like Graham's.
I thought by the initial photo that the plant might be rather larger than it really is.
Hmmm, this is why rhodo lovers go to bed with headaches.
Here's 'Intrifast' ex Glendoick shot #1 and as may be a selected form or a repeat of the cross. It doesn't have that curved shiny old foliage and has remnants of scales. Also a shot of fastigiatum #2 and the true impeditum #3. The last two were identified by Cullen himself.
Maggi - If you look at the fastgiatum shot you'll see the old leaves have a slight curve so a fastgiatum hybrid Graham's may be. These are a minefield and we haven't - and won't - even discussed scales, their distance apart or their colour.
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The small size over that period of growth does suggest either Intrifast or even straight fastigiatum... which I have a nice shiny leaved form of, quite like Graham's.
I thought by the initial photo that the plant might be rather larger than it really is.
Hmmm, this is why rhodo lovers go to bed with headaches.
Here's 'Intrifast' ex Glendoick shot #1 and as may be a selected form or a repeat of the cross. It doesn't have that curved shiny old foliage and has remnants of scales. Also a shot of fastigiatum #2 and the true impeditum #3. The last two were identified by Cullen himself.
Maggi - If you look at the fastgiatum shot you'll see the old leaves have a slight curve so a fastgiatum hybrid Graham's may be. These are a minefield and we haven't - and won't - even discussed scales, their distance apart or their colour.
Hi John, Maggi and Diane
I have just been out and photographed the leaves of the blie one if that is any help.
Old leaves
Old leaves close up
Old leaves underside
New growth
Graham
Graham has started a new topic about this plant :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5597.new#new please make any further comments on it in that thread. Thanks!
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Do you agree the first pinky "camp" is too open-faced?
I think that open faced or not, might not give a hint to if it is "true"
Have found so many variations in cw seed .
Here some photos.
The last one is a hybrid not flat faced
(campylogynum yellow x Tessa Dane)
The first proberly a hybrid and Tessa Dane is (campylogynum (purple! x brachyanthum)
Actually I have been band access to SRGC www by Internet Explore for several month now.
Then EU come up with new rules (microsorft) so I treid out Google Chrome and every thing
are ok again!!!!!!!!!!
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Graham - From the pictures of the new growth in this last posting this lepidote can't be a Lapponica species, I think Maggi and Jens will agree.
Jens - What variation in the campylogynum hybrids! Even straightish stigmas. I don't think Graham's plant labelled Myrtyllloides can be correct do you?
Your Tessa Dane is superb. Tessa must be very proud.
johnw
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Here the same plant as in picture #2
almost just before it drop the flowers ( a few years ago)
So I think the variaton can be great.
I think You are right about the myrtilloides.
Last photo very short stigma
on a interclon "hyb" of campylogynum.
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We have not got too far with the ID for Graham's purple/blue :-\ :-[
Graham has started a new topic about this plant :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5597.new#new please make any further comments on it in that thread. Thanks!
but here is a link to a photo of Diane's myrtilloides in one of her Midland Garden Diary entries......
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/diaries/Midland/+May/ +/280
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The small size over that period of growth does suggest either Intrifast or even straight fastigiatum... which I have a nice shiny leaved form of, quite like Graham's.
I thought by the initial photo that the plant might be rather larger than it really is.
Hmmm, this is why rhodo lovers go to bed with headaches.
Here's 'Intrifast' ex Glendoick shot #1 and as may be a selected form or a repeat of the cross. It doesn't have that curved shiny old foliage and has remnants of scales. Also a shot of fastigiatum #2 and the true impeditum #3. The last two were identified by Cullen himself.
Maggi - If you look at the fastgiatum shot you'll see the old leaves have a slight curve so a fastgiatum hybrid Graham's may be. These are a minefield and we haven't - and won't - even discussed scales, their distance apart or their colour.
Hi John, Maggi and Diane
I have just been out and photographed the leaves of the blie one if that is any help.
Old leaves
Old leaves close up
Old leaves underside
New growth
Graham
Graham has started a new topic about this plant :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5597.new#new please make any further comments on it in that thread. Thanks!
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Flowering at another friend's garden today - R. calendulaceum, the flame azalea and a selected Enkianthus campanulatus 'Showy Lanterns'. The latter is a really worthwhile plant as is the azalea for late/mideseason bloom.
johnw
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John,
what a beauty this R. calendulaceum. Not very often offered by the nursery in this area.
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Uli - I was impressed with that calendulaceum too, one of the nicest I've seen. Why the hybrid azaleas are so popular baffles me but it shouldn't. Abnother good one which is still tight in bud is bakeri and I'll try to get a photo of it in July. It's ever bit as good.
johnw
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John,
we have the R. bakeri. But in my opinion it is a very bad example of this species. The colour is a pale orange-red. Looks like the German version of R. bakeri.
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John,
we have the R. bakeri. But in my opinion it is a very bad example of this species. The colour is a pale orange-red. Looks like the German version of R. bakeri.
Uli - I can collect seeds for you but you realize the seed, as with even collected wild calendulaceum, is likely to give hybrids. I can cross two goods ones next year at my friend's. If you need bakeri let me know as it flowers so late it should come true. He got the mother plants of both species from the Beasleys in the mountains of Georgia (http://www.transplant-nursery.com/ (http://www.transplant-nursery.com/)), they are/were famous for their selected forms of the native azalea species - and these are the best I've seen. In the past my friend's crossed his best calendulaceums together, also best bakeris so he has another generation coming on.
johnw
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John, send you a PM.
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A few Rhododendrons at the Cruickshank Botanic Garden on Thursday night. It was cold, the light was poor, I didn't have much time and I was eating a sandwich as I wandered round the garden so did not look for names if not obvious.
Two colour forms of Rhododendron kiusianum
Rhododendron leaf gall
New foliage on large Rhodo
Lovely orange azalea
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What a lovely soft colour and variation on the colour forms of Rhododendron Roma....Looks like the orange azalea was planted close by and they must make a striking mix.
The glimpse of the grounds is rather tantalising :D
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Robin,
I do have digital pictures of the gardens taken in the last two years, early May and late October only, when I have been taking in plants for the twice yearly bring and buy sales run by the Friends of the Cruickshank Garden. I've been meaning to post them sometime. I can't seem to find the time to go in at other times.
I also have loads of slides and prints going back many years but I don't think I'd ever find the time to digitalise them.
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Roma, when you have time it would be great to see some shots of Cruickshank Botanical Garden - it would be very interesting to see it over the years through your perspective, it sounds as if you have an amazing photographic record....by the way a quick way of digitizing your old photo prints is to take a shot directly with your camera. I did this for the 'who is this?' Forum thread for a BW photo and it worked much better than I imagined - fun to see too - it would save you some time ;D
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for interest: there is some rhodo talk and pix here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5604.0
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All except a couple of rhodos have finished flowering, so now I
am spending lots of time deadheading.
I even did a little on a R. racemosum that I have never deadheaded
before. It grows down on the bank to the road, along with various
cistus, penstemons and grevillea. They don't get watered.
Now, this is a very unusual way to treat a rhodo here in Victoria.
We don't get summer rain, so they need watering for their
new growth, and even so they never reach the dimensions that
they do in wetter places like Portland, Seattle or Vancouver.
However, racemosum, at least Hall's Form, does just fine. Today
I discovered why. There were no new leaves forming, and the
clusters of seedpods were down a finger-length from the tips of
the branches. I realized it has already grown and matured this
year's leaves. It did it in spring when we do get rain.
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One of the last rhodos to flower for me is an azalea from Eastern North
America, Rhododendron arborescens. On a warm day, its scent
perfumes half the garden.
Because of the recent discussion of dwarf blues, I have photographed
my husband standing between arborescens and Bluebird which is a
grex of augustinii x impeditum. It is supposed to remain more-or-less
dwarf. I planted it sometime in the '70s. It is a bit difficult to differentiate
it, but it is in the middle of the picture between a mock orange on the
left and arborescens on the right. It is about twice Don's height. Just
behind the top you can see the red new leaves of Machilus thunbergii
and some English Garden roses (Austin roses grow tall here).
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Diane, the arborescens is gorgeous.... such perfect blooms and I believe I can catch the scent from here :) :)
I see what you mean about the "supposed" size of the R. Bluebird..... That enormous (yellow) bird in Sesame Street comes to mind ::) ;)
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I agree with Maggi, spectacular flowering and a wonderful setting - your husband certainly looks dwarfed amongst everything Diane!
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Rhododendron ciliatum just starting to flower with plenty of buds yet to open.
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A pale,delicate and beautiful start to the Rhodo season for you Dave :)
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Looks fabulous Dave !! :D
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Thanks Robin and Luc.
There are a number of Rhodies planted against the east edge of the bush which unfortunately have become leggy because of lack of light .
Last summer before this years flowering buds were formed i pruned back some of the more adventurous growths as well as removing some of the overhanging native trees/shrubs.I plan to prune those rhodies again ,a bit harder this season.
Another exercise has been to continually cut back off the driveway a substantial R.christmas cheer --- height of 3.5 x 5.5 mtrs wide --as a result it only flowers heavily on the upper branches.Some years it is affected by frost ,however not this one.
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Dave , a nice R. ciliatum in your woodland setting- here it is also in flower . Somewhat larger in my garden at the moment - about 8 metres tall is Rh. arboreum ssp. roseum ( ssp. campbellii)
A glimpse into Tim Orpin's garden - my next door neighbour who visited you a few years ago ,Dave .
3 young Acer griseum underplanted with Scleranthus biflorus . It looked brilliant with the maples in their autumn glory a few months ago , forgot to take a photo .
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3 young Acer griseum underplanted with Scleranthus biflorus .
Hello Otto
Lovely combination.
Yes i remember Tim--actually i was in contact with him recently to thank him for the Helleborus seed he sent me back in Dec 07 ,most of which are currently in bloom --some wonderful doubles and picote colours.
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A bit of autumn fire from Rhododendron mucronulatum v. taquetii. The first, an old plant bought as 'Cheju' and the second a self-sown seedling in a trough.
johnw
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John,
wow.
Is var. taguetii famous for this autumn fire? I only knew R. mucronulatum with yellow-green autumn leaves. No red in it.
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Cheju is the Korean island where seed was collected - probably in 1987,
as my plant was grown from seed I got in 1988.
Mine is very dwarf, and has old-gold leaves. Never red, but the leaves
are so tiny they wouldn't make much of a show even if they were scarlet.
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John,
wow.
Is var. taguetii famous for this autumn fire? I only knew R. mucronulatum with yellow-green autumn leaves. No red in it.
Uli - These dwarf ones now known as var. taquetii always colour up well as you see. My regular pink mucronulatum which is the oldest rhododendron I have was planted in 1973 and is 3 meters high. It has never been frosted in all those years. Mostly yellow in the autumn but it does have a bit of red as well. Plenty of op seed on the dwarf one and at least 30-40% come true & they are easily sorted out. Let me know if you neeed any, they flower in a year or so.
Diane - This dwarf mucronulatum came from the RSF, possibly collected by Warren Berg. I would have to go through my records to see when I got it but would have guessed about 1984 or 5. This var. is great for a rock garden, now circa 65cm high and a bit wider, the trunk is about 10-12cm in diameter and slightly peeling. I have a few new ones received as seed labelled v. ciliatum. I think it is Davidian who casually mentions it, perhaps as a synonym. These new ones are red/pink and I should check the colour of the autumn foliage. Crossed it with spinuliferum this past Spring. I would love to get my hands on the dwarf white one which is delectable. I know one person in Japan with it but it has yet to set seed from selfing.
johnw
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I think correct spelling for John's fiery cutie is Rhododendron mucronulatum var taquetii
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I think correct spelling for John's fiery cutie is Rhododendron mucronulatum var taquetii
No surprise you caught that one Maggi. I should have stuck with var. chejuensis!
The pink R. trichostomum ex Jens Birck is in full flower here along with 'Bridal Bouquet' (a sargentianum hybrid) and scads of the Lapponica species.
johnw
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The pink/red flowered dwarves have red autumn foliage. Just checked.
johnw
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I'm pretty sure mine has white flowers, but I've never photographed it.
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I'm pretty sure mine has white flowers, but I've never photographed it.
Diane
If so you really lucked out, it's a real rarity. Somewhere I have a picture of it and crossed with edgeworthii.
johnw
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mucronulatum seems a strange bedfellow for edgeworthii ? :-\
I would worry in crossing a deciduous variety with an evergreen that it would be too good an excuse for the resulting plant to be throwing its leaves off all the time! ::) :-X
Maybe I'm just cheesed off because the deciduous species don't do very well in my garden. :'(
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mucronulatum seems a strange bedfellow for edgeworthii ? :-\
Luckily such matings were legalized here some years ago. ;D
Here:
the white dwarf mucronulatum (you should try it in the driest spot in the rock garden, maybe in a big trough with lots of grit - this is where it self sows here.)
my crosses using the dwarf with:
dendrocharis
leucaspis
camplyogynum
Interestingly all can be deciduous if we have a brutal winter. They usually are evergreen though.
johnw
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In flower today - R. goodenoughii - and some buds to come
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Simply beautiful Frazer - is it scented?
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I have a shocking sense of smell - I can only really discern lillies, however, I'm reliably informed that it is sweetly scented (as is the case with most Vireyas). The plant is found in upland Papua New Guinea.
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Thanks Frazer...I would like to more about these Rhodos so will do some research :)
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Try http://www.vireya.net/
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Frazer that is lovely and what a marvellous site to look at others
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No flowers yet here! But while waiting for the white cap to be substituted by a red one I can enjoy the colour of the leaves.
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Trond, I love your wintercap photo.... a perfect match in snow for the flower head when it comes 8) :)
Maybe you should make a soft-focus version of the shot and tell the Rhodo fans you have developed a PURE WHITE rhodo! ;D
They'll go mad for it.... no pink, no yellow tones, perfect white, very early flowering....... it would sell by the hundred!
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Thanks, Maggi!
What a great idea to sell white winter flowering rhodos! I'll do the propagation and you can take care of the selling business and we share 50/50! That's a deal!
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Agreed! We'll be rich! ;D
I have a plan for another product we can market...... white conifers......pure white conifer cushions....... ::)
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I have such items too. You'll notice them everywhere in this picture.
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Folks, some rhodo talk in the Rhodothamnus thread, starting around this message.....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5406.msg184759#msg184759
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Rhododendron name. :'(
Could someone please tell me what this dwarf rhododendron might be, or the possible group it might belong to?
I was sure it had a label, but it must be buried amongst its roots and the annual top-dressings I have given it over the years…Thanks!
8)
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Looks like one of the Warren Berg hybrids.... 'Wee Bee' ?
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Looks like one of the Warren Berg hybrids.... 'Wee Bee' ?
Lampwick
No this one is straightforward. Yes it is 'Wee Bee' or it could be 'Too Bee' with the same parentage but then again it is more than likely 'Not Too Bee' which of course is an invalid name but a synonym of 'Wee Bee'. In any case the parentage is 'Patricia' x keiskei 'Yaku Fairy' but not really as Warren Berg called his own seed grown keiskei plant 'Yaku Fairy' when in fact that name is only valid for Barry Starling's AM form of keiskei rightfully named by him 'Yaku Fairy'.
Clear? Glad Maggi and I could straighten you out here. If only Galanthus were so easy. :-X
BTW one has a blotch and I believe the other(s) doesn't/don't but I can't recall for some reason which is which.
johnw
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John, I was chatting with Barry Starling the other evening and he sends you his best wishes.
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Lampkin
Joking aside (but the mess mentioned is no joke), from RHS The International Rhododendron Register & Checklist (2nd Edition):
Wee Bee - "shading to strong pink (52C) in throat, with vivd red (45B) spotting on the dorsal lobe, outisde 52A with strong red (51a) rays down each lobe."
Too Bee - shading to light pink (49c) in the throat, with dorsal spotting of strong red (50A) in the throat (More bad news - "originally published in error as 'To Bee')"
So, very well could bee Wee Bee'.
johnw
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John, I was chatting with Barry Starling the other evening and he sends you his best wishes.
So he's back from Mexico, time to ring him up. Thanks David.
I see he has an article on Menzesias in the lastest RHS Rhodo, Camellia and Magnolia Journal. Also hear they have been recently all renamed completely as Rhododendron. Argh.
johnw
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Thank you Maggi and johnw; I will go along with 'Wee Bee' then, as that name seems to “ring-a-bell” in the deep murky depths of my memory! ::)
8)
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here's a small plant ;D
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here's a small plant ;D
Mark, I do agree! It is very small compared to the birches I have in my garden but they don't have that colour ;D ;D
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I showed the photo below last year not knowing what it was and some of you kindly gave your suggestions. The heavy snow of this past winter broke the centre of it and as it has finished flowering I decided to give it a hard prune.
Lo and Behold right in the centre and buried under the old leaf litter was the label
Rhododendron lepidotum 'Reuthe's Purple'
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That seems exactly right, Graham...... I hope I at least said it was a R. lepidotum?!! ::)
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That seems exactly right, Graham...... I hope I at least said it was a R. lepidotum?!! ::)
I won't go back through the thread to check just in case you didn't ;)
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Very thoughtful of you, Graham, thanks! ;D
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I couldn't resist it... it was last June....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=10.msg155254#msg155254
I thought by the photos then that there was more of a bell shape to the flowers than there appears to be in the latet shots, though Jens said he thought they were rather flat faced..... we aere all floundering rather! ::)
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Sometimes words are inadequate when confronted by such a showing in early July...
Rhododendron maddenii ssp. crassum
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Sometimes words are inadequate when confronted by such a showing in early July...
Very lovely Frazer. Is this usually late flowering or an aberrant late bud? No doubt Lesley will ask for a detailed account of its fragrance.
The North Tisburies are just flowering here now. Michael Hill, one my favourites as it is completely prostrate and the one pictured 'Late Love', about 1 foot high by 4 feet across. A few of my own evergreen azalea hybrids are just starting to flower now.
johnw
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Just to remind me of the forthcoming spring:
Rhododendron bureavii has produced some flower buds (I think - as they are fatter than the other ones) buried deep among the furry petioles. Some very swollen buds on a fortunei(?) seedling promise nice flowers while the fruits from last spring's magnificent display grows near by - and an unknown seedling has a second growth in autumn as usually with this one. (Guess who has munched at the edges of the leaves!)
[attachthumb=1] [attachthumb=2] [attachthumb=3] [attachthumb=4]
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For Maggi ,(and others).....
We don't have the room for many Rhodos .These first 3 ,(names unknown),were here when we arrived on the property and were incorporated into the initial garden makeover.
The last one i think is R.pumilum.
Cheers Dave.
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Dave, l like the second one. I like the dark leaves and as we have to look at the foliage for a long time to me it's as important as the flowers.
The rest of your garden in the picture looks very interesting. Maybe another picture for nosy me please.
Angie :)
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I'm pretty dendrologically challenged, so maybe someone can help me (tentatively) identify the following three species from GonggaShan, W Sichuan?
#1 grew around 3000m in Hailuogou, a 3m tall upright shrub, the branches were covered in brown fur.
#2 and #3 grew around 3500m on GonggaShan itself, #2 was another 3m tall upright shrub, #3 was a massive 8m tall tree that had toppled.
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Bjornar
#1 - in the Maculifera, maybe pachytricum
#2 - just a hunch, praestans
#3 - 8m high eh? thinking a species in Thomsonia, but gestalt says something not quite right.
Having stuck my neck out I am now prepared to have my head lopped off when Jens Birck comes to the rescue with the names.
johnw - 18c and rain
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I stick my head out too!
#1 agree
#2 watsonii
#3 prattii
hope that I am not too wrong.
jens c birck
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Jens
Well #2 at least I got the Grandia correct. I never remember watsonii and was so surprised you can grow at least one form of it. How does praestans differ from watsonii, they both seem to have that winged petiole that hides itself so cleverly. Can you manage praestans in Denmark too?
My #3 was a serious mistake by me. Thank-you for leaving head attached. That is one whopping big prattii even if horizontal now!
johnw
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JohnW :How does praestans differ from watsonii
a little diff to tell here - it most comes to "gestalt"
so have a look at the picture att.:
watsonii is bone hardy here ( at least clone : Hummel 33)
praestans will only live for a few years here
Hight of rhododendrons is a strange thing.
Looking it up in diff books give you some indications of that is "normal"-
going to China the first time I looked up roxieanum var. oreonastes
it should be up to 3 meters
So when You find a oreonastes 8 to 10 meters high ????
I think it all comes to growing conditions.
jens
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Thank you both, good to have names on the seed envelopes! :) Rh. watsonii should be bone hardy even for me, considering the altitude and climate where it grew... There's a 4th one that I forgot; also on Gongga, about 3840m, short plant maybe 50cm tall - any ideas?
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Dave, l like the second one. I like the dark leaves and as we have to look at the foliage for a long time to me it's as important as the flowers.
The rest of your garden in the picture looks very interesting. Maybe another picture for nosy me please.
Angie :)
No worries Angie.
Here's another view of the small back garden .
Firstly ,taken over the shoulder of the Rhodo you like ,followed by the view looking back and because i know you grow some of these ,(or hybrids),a couple pics of Cyp formosanum that has 5 flowering spikes this season growing in amongst a clump of Paris quadrifolia beside the concrete path .
Cheers Dave.
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Dave i have to say it's a good job I don't live near you because i would never be away from your garden,there is plantsmans plants everywhere :o
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a little diff to tell here - it most comes to "gestalt" so have a look at the picture att.:
watsonii is bone hardy here ( at least clone : Hummel 33) praestans will only live for a few years here jens
Thanks Jens. Will try to house in the gestalt bank.
johnw
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Thank you both, good to have names on the seed envelopes! :) Rh. watsonii should be bone hardy even for me, considering the altitude and climate where it grew... There's a 4th one that I forgot; also on Gongga, about 3840m, short plant maybe 50cm tall - any ideas?
Will only say it may be a Taliensia species, maybe beginning with a or p.
Jens will know.
johnw
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I think you have to use both letters in there
my guess
aganniphum
jens
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A surprise today. After floods of rain the past weeks I finally had a look round the garden. To my surprise, a flower truss had appeared on my Rh.xanthocodon. This is about 6 months out of synch. I can only presume our cool wet Summer has been a boon to the Rhododendron family.
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Thanks again for the ID! :D
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Some very good autumn colours this year.
There are some rhododendrons in there:
bureavii and a Jacksonii in full flower.
birck
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This Vireya is called 'Java Light'. It's very orange! 8)
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This Vireya is called 'Java Light'. It's very orange! 8)
Looks more like a Lava Light, Anthony! ;D
I posted some pics of Vireyas from the Ferny Creek Show [a few weeks ago] here:http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7930.75 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7930.75) at reply #87
cheers
fermi
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Just noticed two Vireyas in flower today. Tropic Glow x saxifragoides. The last shot is a sibling of the other one. Nice to have rhododendron flowers in these dark days.
johnw
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I thought the Vireya Rhodo's were hard to grow,or are you two experts.
If they are not that tricky where can I get some?
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Vireyas are dead easy to grow. Keep frost free, outdoors when possible May-October , use a clay pot, a very loose mix incorporating more than 60% coarse bark and coco fibre, under-pot, fertilize 2-3 times a year 1/4 strength, water when quite dry - never if wet or moist. If outdoors they get what they get but the caveat is that our humidity ranges from 85-91% in the spring & summer. Keep slightly drier in winter. They will quickly die of root rot if over-watered but will rarely die of drought - at least outdoors here. Remember they're epiphytic.
If you're in North America try The Rhododendron Species Foundation, Bovees Nursery or Greer Gardens. If you're in Europe try Glendoick Gardens. Plenty to be found in Australia, NZ and the orient.
johnw
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In Scotland, Vireyas are not really suited for outdoor growing. The trouble is that our weather is too variable from day-to-day. I have only seen Vireyas successfully grown in glasshouses or conservatories. If a particularly hardy variety was chosen and great care taken with cultivation - moving it in or out of a glasshouse - then you may just succeed. Frost free costs a lot of money now! However,it is better to grow Rhods. that suit our climate - there are hundreds to choose from.
On a different tack now, I have had a look at all my Rhods. and have noticed that many of them are well forward in bud. If our mild weather continues then several will be trying to flower in December. All it will need is a couple of nights of frost and that will be the end of the flowers for another year
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Hello Glynnffc, good to have you in the Forum.
As John says, vireyas are not hard to grow.... but they do prefer some warmth.... the conditions that cool to warm orchids like would probaly be perfect for them in the UK.
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I've seen them in the RBG glasshouses,but not noticed them at Glendoick. I'll have to have a closer look.I'm sure my cool growing orchids wouldn't mind a bit of company.
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I've seen them in the RBG glasshouses,but not noticed them at Glendoick. I'll have to have a closer look.I'm sure my cool growing orchids wouldn't mind a bit of company.
glynnffc - Glendoick may have a few up kicking around and not listed, likely in the g'house up at the main house. If you ask the right person there I'd bet they'd accomodate you.
johnw
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Tom- These saxifragoides hybrids seem to like cooler summers. They have never looked better and this after a truly miserable summer. I'd love to find saxifragoides itself.
Let's not discuss the cost of keeping a greenhouse just frost-free in this climate! Just had a fill-up.
johnw
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http://www.glendoick.com/index.php?page=faq-indoors ....... temptation aplenty, methinks!
http://www.vireya.net/
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As a change from the miserable weather, here are some shots taken in Crarae gardens on 1 May this year. At the time, I couldn't be bothered downsizing them as I have no facility for batch processing. After Crarae we went to Arduaine and then back to Lochgilphead for a look at the garden there. If I remember right, we had a chinese carry-out in the car park and then home for 2200. A 200 mile drive with three gardens -I'm too old for this now! We caught Crarae at the right time, all the paths had now been opened after years of closure for repair. I had not seen the Rh.Cinnabarinum grove in flower for years and was impressed with the size of the plants. I can remember them in 1970 when they were about 4 feet high. Now they must be about 10 feet. Argyllshire, (my home county), is beautiful at this time of year-when the sun shines.
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How wonderful to still have cinnabarinums. Most died from mildew here.
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How wonderful to still have cinnabarinums. Most died from mildew here.
Here the cinnabarinums get powdery mildew in pots but once they get into the ground it clears up. I really don't understand this as these diseases have long since learned how to survive winters.
R. thomsonii in a tub was riddled with it and by spring it would be leafless. I bit the bullet and planted out what I considered to be only a tender breeding plant. Here it is (the Ludlow & Sheriff form) some years later.
johnw
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I lost a heap of them about 30 years ago and then replanted small specimens obtained fairly locally from some of the Argyll gardens. So far they appear healthy but a couple are rather shy in flowering. My xanthocodon was planted about 5 years ago and produced its first trusses last Spring. Now the plant is in full flower. My Edgeworthii flowered well in the greenhouse. It was planted out 2 years ago and was cut to the ground by severe frosts. I planted the roots in the glasshouse and amazingly it grew again so I re potted it, put it outside and brought it back in the unheated glasshouse last Autumn. It survived the first frosts but the long spell in February did for it again. I pruned it to the ground again and put it out in a sheltered shady spot. It has grown again and will be brought into the house if the frosts hit us again.. It deserves better treatment than it has been given in the past. The strange thing is that the Maddenii group seem hardier than this Edgeworthii. In all the gardens I visited this year, the Edge. were the most damaged.
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Tom - The Maddennia certainly have some surprises. A friend nearby cannot grow cinnabarinum and yet 'Lady Chamberlain' (a cinn x Madd x) sits in full sun in howling gales and even manages to open a few flowers most years. it is indeed puzzling. The cinns (at least the hardy ones that survive & tender ones in pots) need to reach 5 feet before any chance of a bud in these parts.
I'd bet your edgeworthii would settle in nicely once it gets to a certain size. I think Glendoick sells a neat dwarfer one.
Thanks for the Crarae shots.
johnw - already -2c at 21:00.
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I have been given a pot of, quite mature, Rhododendron campylogynum myrtillioides. Not in my field at all, but as it was going to be thrown away, I accepted it gratefully. Any growing tips please?
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Thrown away? A dwarf rhodo? Threatened with the dump? :o Utterly shocking... well done for rescuing it. :D
This is a really super little rhodo. I'm supposing that since it is in a pot and was going to be thrown out, it may not be in the best of health right now.
It is a plant that can be grown in a pot and will make a stunning show plant in good order.
See this link to forumist Mike Ireland's picture of this plant at Calphotos to see just how floriferous this little charmer can be: http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?enlarge=0000+0000+0808+0296
You don't get much better than that!
Diane Clement shows the plant in her Midland Gardener's blog too:
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/diaries/Midland/+May+/280/
Here in NE Scotland this plant would do in quite a sunny situation. I an area where the weather gets very hot and dry it might prefer a slightly shaded position. If the rescue plant is in poor condition, I'd keep it out of too much cold and bad weather meantime, protected under a hedge, perhaps?
Plant it out (when the spring is truly springing) enriched with good leaf mould and in a free draining spot.
Some bone meal amongst the leaf mould seems to be enjoyed by them here.
If the foliage is looking a bit yellow and grotty (the leaves should in good health be mid to dark green, aromatic when crushed and generally shiny) give the plant a dose of MirAcid feed or Vitax Q4 .
The little plummy pink thimble flowers have a dusky bloom on them and are just delightful.
The plant is slow growing, beautiful and pretty tough.... worthy of a place in your garden I am quite sure.
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Thats great Maggi. Thank you.
It is not in the best of health, but I will do as you say and hopefully it will become, if not a show stopper, another stray to find a place here. I'll show it the picture of Mike Irelands plant.
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Maggi, I've never used Vitax Q4, but notice it isn't advertised as being for Ericaceous plants. Obviously it must be OK for Rhododendron, ( as you recommend it! ), but can it be used as a feed for non ericaceous plants also?
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We used to give all our shrubs and trees a treat of Vitax Q4 in the dim and distant past, Ron... when we could afford such things. The general border plants seemd to appreciate it also. Allotment owning chums used it on their tomatoes, too, as I recall... we weren't growing food crops when we used it so I cannot speak for that personally.
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That's very useful, thank you. That's the one for me Maggi. :)
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It has trace elements as well as the NPK content, so that gives an extra boost to most plants that are looking a bit "hungry"!
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Someone on another forum that I use has an unknown Rhododendron. From the little in the linked picture can anyone give it a name? There is some more info in the write-up.
http://www.blipfoto.com/entry/1780289
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Tony - Impossible to say without seeeing the leaves, petioles, undersides and the truss fully opened, a bit like id'ing an unopened snowdrop. If I had to stick my neck out I might say a white macabeanum. Of course one looks for great yellows in this species, not white. Maggi or Jens will have a better offer I'm sure.
johnw
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Super bullate leaves in the pic... and a really lovely pink disc-cupped style...... I don't know what it is though. :-[ :-\
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Rh. mucronulatum
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Rhododendron dauricum?? is the first one to flower here - it started in February but the first flowers were damaged by a spell of frost in mid February. Rh moupinense is also early and will open its buds tomorrow I think!
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Rhododendron dauricum?? is the first one to flower here - it started in February but the first flowers were damaged by a spell of frost in mid February.
Hoy - I think your dauricum might have a pinch of mucronulatum in its background. R. dauricum here is evergreen though it only holds terminal leaves as yours shows. However the growth habit - climate? - and colour suggests the completely deciduous mucronulatum is lurking.
johnw
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Rhododendron dauricum?? is the first one to flower here - it started in February but the first flowers were damaged by a spell of frost in mid February.
Hoy - I think your dauricum might have a pinch of mucronulatum in its background. R. dauricum here is evergreen though it only holds terminal leaves as yours shows. However the growth habit - climate? - and colour suggests the completely deciduous mucronulatum is lurking.
johnw
Thanks John. Make sense. The plant is from seeds I got from a friend some years ago. A bit lanky habit but nice in spring.
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Rhododendron 'Praecox' about 10 days ago before a couple of nights with frost. It's still flowering but lots of flowers damaged.
Rhododendron leucaspis which spends the winter under a bench in the greenhouse. It needs pruning regularly so that it fits the space. I have some seedlings coming along so it may be disposed of in a few years time.
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Scenting my greenhousejust now
Rhododendron cubittii
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Before it gets cold here are a few of mine
R calophytum a most unusual flower
R arboreum roseum Tony Schilling. This plant took a severe hammering in the hard winter of last year and was not helped by the driest summer for many yaers. I hope it will improve this year arboreums are such architecturally shaped plants
Also a companion plant Magnolia Caerhays Surprise
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Super blackcurrant marking in the R. calophytum, Ian.
I do hope the frost does not damage all those great flowers. I'm trying not to think about it here.
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Super blackcurrant marking in the R. calophytum, Ian.
I do hope the frost does not damage all those great flowers. I'm trying not to think about it here.
It is a worry isn't it with lots of stuff about to burst forth. I suppose we have to pay for this unseasonal weather GRRRRH :-\
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We escaped damage last night.... only rain. what a relief. Visitors coming today, Pam Eveleigh,(PrimulaWorld) currently the SRGC Travelling Speaker, and President Liz Mills.... at least they'll see flowers not 'teabags'.
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I am in the same boat. Last weeks warm weather has accelerated the flowers on the Rhoddies. The buds on many of them are just about to burst open. This year my Johnstonianum has set masses of buds and it promises to look good. However, the temp. is set to drop drastically and we are on the cusp of the snow line over the next few days. I think that the main problem will be a searing cold wind from the North. This trashes the flowers even more than frost. I have moved Lady Alice Fitzwilliam into the greenhouse as I am determined to have one scented variety to sniff. If the weather does manage to see-off some of my choicer specimens, it means more trade for Glendoick !
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There are perfect rhodies for anyone who worries about frost damaging
flowers.
A 20 year old R. boothii hadn't flowered yet for a friend, so he gave it
to me to see if it would like my garden better. It didn't, and when a Douglas
fir fell on it after I had had it for twenty years, I was not upset.
This is aureum, which I bought as a seedling in 1974. It has not flowered
yet, but I'm not giving up yet. It doesn't take much room, and the leaves
are pleasing.
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We escaped damage last night.... only rain. what a relief. Visitors coming today, Pam Eveleigh,(PrimulaWorld) currently the SRGC Travelling Speaker, and President Liz Mills.... at least they'll see flowers not 'teabags'.
We did not! I am not at home though but I know there was frost the two last nights and some of my bigger rhodos are in full flower. I am anxious to what I'll find when I come home :-\
Here's a truss (or two) of sutchuenense (or a hybrid) taken some days ago.
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Diane - I don't want to be the bearer of bad news but your aureum must be mis-labelled. However it is one very smart looking rhododendron.
Here R. aureum grows very slowly but it sets buds as very young plants - even as rooted cuttings - and is one of the first to flower. The leaves are unmistakeble.
Here is a pic of it here in Nova Scotia (this one ankle high) plus an unbelievably spectacular one at the Milde Arboretum in Bergen complete with Jens Birck. The latter was planted on a mound.
johnw - 0c and sunny
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Diane - I cannot get your plant out of my head. I see something in it that is very familiar, something I had or something I recognize. So much for gestalt if it can't produce a name. Perhaps a sane person will come to the rescue. ::)
johnw
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At the present I don't think that I am a "sane" person
as everything here has turned into thebags, they promised -5C
we got -3C but that was enough to ruin it all.
The plant.
At first I thourght of aureun var. hypopithys as it look like this
when I grow it 25 years ago, but no.
So my guess would be something like 50% aureum in there, it does look
like some hybrids I grow in the garden. Bare leg'ed and only this years foliage on top.
birck
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Bare leg'ed and only this years foliage on top.
I'm the one that removes the old foliage as it always looks awful.
Edit on May 11: yes, I've remembered the wrong name. My aureum died, and the one in the picture
is clementinae. Not quite as old - it was a seedling in 1980, but still no flowers. Now I must put a
label on it.
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Bare leg'ed and only this years foliage on top.
I'm the one that removes the old foliage as it always looks awful.
This just confirm my guess of 50% aureum.
birck
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Rhododendrons on Sunday before the snow
Rhododendron trichostomum
Rhododendron hippophaeoides 'Haba Shan'
Rhododendron hippophaeoides Yu
Rhododendron 'Phalarope', 'Princess Anne' in bud and a purple whose name I've forgotten
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Bare leg'ed and only this years foliage on top.
I'm the one that removes the old foliage as it always looks awful.
This just confirm my guess of 50% aureum.
birck
This is indeed a puzzling one. In 50% aureum hybrids - at least here - one can see aureum in the leaf but not in this one. The only sign I see of aureum is the dormant growth bud on the shoot at the centre of the photo. Would you agree Jens? What would you think of aureum x thomsonii? Trying to think of a species in flower at the same time as aureum. Of course no reason it couldn't be aureum x a hybrid.
The leaves seem fairly big for an aureum hybrid. Remember Jens we saw aureum x rex at Borje's and the leaves we not very large.
It will be interesting to see the flowers whenever they apear Diane.
johnw
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It will be interesting to see the flowers whenever they apear Diane.
johnw
Yes. Most of my family made it into their 90s, so I might still be around.
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The most "look alike" I can come up with is this Nikomontanum
(aureum x brachycarpum) almost same spoon shaped foliage as i the photo
from Diane.(801)
And for foliage size (805)
1 + 2 aureum cw from Wada 30+years ago
3 + 4 aureum cw from Doi
5 brachycarpum v. roseum , very spoon shaped foliage.
Last photo of (aureun x rex) the flowers was a disapointment
as they were easyly brown spotted by raindrops.
The size of the foliage was very varied in this cross I did 30 years ago.
birck
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Thanks Jens. Do you think this foliage is noy too big for xnikkomontanum? Somewhere I have the Kernehuset form of xnikko so I will have to take a look at it. I suppose being aureum x brachycarpum it could vary greatly and so this sounds like a reasonable assumption but something does not look quite right.
Jens - your pic of xnikkomontanum. Might be Kernehuset's.
Diane - we look forward to photo of this in flower. You may have to send it down to me though.
aureum x rex - Pretty good for an F1, just needs another dab of rex pollen! ;)
johnw
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Just a note that there are rhodos in this Bulb Log thread.....http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8819.0
enjoy!
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Size- I think its very difficult to get acurate info from a picture.
Second who is the father if it is a hybrid.
So we just have wait for the flower to come, and yes we might both be down
there waiting for a photo to pop up.
Here a photo of my nikko foliage together with a brachycarpum v. roseum( the smaller one)
birck
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Here a photo of my nikko foliage together with a brachycarpum v. roseum( the smaller one) birck
Nice looking peat block that the leaves are sitting on!
johnw
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Just a note that there are rhodos in this Bulb Log thread.....http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8819.0
enjoy!
I have enjoyed myself, Maggi! Especially the one (yours?) from ACE seed ;)
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That's good!
We were lucky with the rhodos from ACE seed... some very nice plants. 8)
Sadly, the Bulb Despot no longer approves of growing more rhodos from seed ... mutters about lack of space for bulbs....... :-X :'(
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I feel with you, Maggi! But I have the problem myself - i want to grow more rhodos, more other shrubs and a lot of other plants, notably rock garden plants. But space is limited (and so is my time) :-\
However, the authority has given up her part of the garden - and that is not my fault ;)
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I have grown many rhododendrons from seed even though I have
only a half acre. One brother has forty acres and his son has ten.
They are both willing to receive as many of my rhodos as I want
to give them. Then I can visit my plants when they are in flower.
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I have grown many rhododendrons from seed even though I have
only a half acre. One brother has forty acres and his son has ten.
They are both willing to receive as many of my rhodos as I want
to give them. Then I can visit my plants when they are in flower.
Hope they don't live too far away!
I have 50 acres of forestland but it is 500km away from me and I have to walk several hours from the nearest road to reach it! I have not carried rhodos up there but that was a thought though :o However it is a lot of European elks and roe deer there . . . .
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I have grown many rhododendrons from seed even though I have
only a half acre. One brother has forty acres and his son has ten.
They are both willing to receive as many of my rhodos as I want
to give them. Then I can visit my plants when they are in flower.
A perfect system, Diane!
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Diane, An acre of land here would cost the earth and no doubt have about 8 houses built on it. My house built in 1971 has a back garden of 60 x 30 feet, The front is 60 x 15 feet with a space of about 8 feet up to the boundary with my neighbour's house. This equates to approx. 1/12 of an acre including the house !
You can see from this, even medium sized Rhododendrons are hard to fit.
The average modern house build has no garden worth speaking of. The gable ends of the houses are about 8 feet apart -you have just enough room to push the"wheelie bin" round the side.
We can only dream of having large gardens anywhere near our towns or else a lottery win to fulfill our dreams.
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I had a good look round the garden this morning to find that the -1c frost and strong N. winds had trashed most of the Rhododendron and Camellia flowers. The Magnolia stellata and loebneri "Leonard Messel" flowers were undamaged. Rh. Elizabeth, Augustinii, Patty Bee and Albrechtii will have to wait until next year for undamaged flowers;
We had a walk round Culzean Country Park this afternoon and the same result was seen there. From a distance I saw an attractive large leaved Rh. with salmon pink flowers.
When I got closer, I realised it was a Macabeanum with frost damage. All the Magnolias that were open two weeks ago were off the trees. Any plants in tight bud looked OK unless we get more of the same.
In the nursery beds, I came across some small plants of Rh.Lochinch Spinburn. I had to look this up on the web and traced it to Quinish Garden Nursery on Mull. It would appear to be a Hirsutum cross. I will have to keep my eye on it when it is planted out in the woods. In the Camellia house they had 4 Rh.edgeworthii hybrids planted in pots. The scent was wonderfull.
The Rh. picture and the Magnolia campbellii were taken on 25 March as the weather was warming up.
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Hi!
Azalea already is blooming in my garden:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-aW0CWoJkBTY/T5MHUAXoJ2I/AAAAAAAAGWI/L79Qg4nL7es/s288/IMG_0532.JPG)
More pictures: http://zvonem.blogspot.news/
Best Regards! zvone
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Hi!
Blooming Rhododendron from My Garden:
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Someone wishes for him in his garden. Recommend.
Best regards! Zvone
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A couple of pictures here of a deciduous Azalia I've had for a few years now. It's a shy flowerer but this year it's excelled itself. It's very prone to catching a white mould during the summer!!!!!???? months. It has a slight scent. The thing is I don't have a label and I've forgotten what it is, can anyone ID it please?
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Rhododendron luteum, David - I can smell it from here, even through the rain!
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Thanks Maggi, and thanks too for not telling me I'd spelt it wrong. Azalea. Azalea. Azalea. Azalea ;D
Now, do I take it that it's not an Azalea at all even though it's deciduous?
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All Azaleas are rhododenrons... but not all rhodos are azaleas ;D ;D
It is usual to call the deciduous types "azaleas" and some of the evergreen types sold as houseplants, too.... but they are all Rhododendrons.
(I didn't tell you about the spelling, cos I was debating drawing Susan S' attention to it, so she could tell you...... :P ::) ;) ;) )
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(I didn't tell you about the spelling, cos I was debating drawing Susan S' attentoin to it, so she could tell you...... :P ::) ;) ;) )
Eeek! that's not fair ;D
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On a trip South I stayed with some nice folk who had a very nice Rhododendron filled garden in Tunbridge Wells. Tony Cox has been collecting Rhodies for many years, including many raised from seed from home and from the Himalayas. I snatched a few pictures on a rainy morning before catching the 0851 train home. Here is just a flavour of what was there.
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Such a lovely garden!
This is aureum, which I bought as a seedling in 1974. It has not flowered
yet, but I'm not giving up yet. It doesn't take much room, and the leaves
are pleasing.
Yes, I was definitely wrong. I've just been going through old records, and aureum died long ago.
The plant in the photo is clementinae, which I bought as a seedling in 1980. Still no flowers.
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Such a lovely garden!
Yes, I was definitely wrong. I've just been going through old records, and aureum died long ago.
The plant in the photo is clementinae, which I bought as a seedling in 1980. Still no flowers.
Of course clementinae, so obvious now. Had it for years and still no flowers yet. You should have flowers in the next 10 years. Superb foliage, what?
johnw - +17c and spring is 3 weeks ahead of usual.
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On a trip South I stayed with some nice folk who had a very nice Rhododendron filled garden in Tunbridge Wells. Tony Cox has been collecting Rhodies for many years, including many raised from seed from home and from the Himalayas. I snatched a few pictures on a rainy morning before catching the 0851 train home. Here is just a flavour of what was there.
Vau!
Beutiful!
Thank's Tony!
Best Regards! Zvone
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See this post for some Rhodos in Ascreavie... the garden of the late collector Major George Sherriff:
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9018.msg246546#msg246546 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=9018.msg246546#msg246546)
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Poor spring here due to the last very dry summer following the cold winter. But the rain so far looks like the plants are recovering for next year. In spite of this a couple flowering for me at the moment
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I am extremely jealous ! This must be my worst year for flowering Rhods. Last Autumn, I had a xanthocodon flowering in October/November. Other varieties were rather precocious in producing flowerbuds. Of course, a mild but very wet Winter encouraged them to flower early. Some of the dwarf varieties flowered in January.
The inevitable happened. As the buds were starting to open in April----two nights of frost. That put paid to the the flowers. The new growth started and then last week, 3 days of gale force NE winds at a temp. of 7c, burned all the new growth to a crisp. My prize Rh. albrectii seems to have given up the ghost after only two years in situ. Dead flowers and no sign of growth.
The rain stopped so I took a break and went outside to have a closer look at some of the plants ---- not as bad as I thought. The xanthocodon has produced some more buds which have now opened. Fabia, Winsome, Tinkerbird and Dorothy Evans may produce a decent show--time will tell.
Logan gardens on Saturday had its scented varieties in bloom although some of the edgeworthii's had damaged leaves. The flowers of this plant are attractive looking at both the front and the back. The perfume is wonderful,
The other picture was taken out of the dining room window and hour ago in the rain and wind. I had forgotten how green everything looks ---something to do with our rainfall ?
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Logan gardens on Saturday had its scented varieties in bloom although some of the edgeworthii's had damaged leaves. The flowers of this plant are attractive looking at both the front and the back. The perfume is wonderful,
Tom I can smell them from here. Unfortunately mine won't flower this year :-\
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Exciting times here! First flowering of Jens Birck's What A Dane in Nova Scotia. The plant is 2m high and seems to be hardy enough in southern Nova Scotia. The colour is unique for this area.
johnw - +19c and we are promised a glorious Victoria Day long weekend.
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Johnw, congrats, what a colour!
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Hi!
Rhododendron from My Garden:
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Best Regrds! zvone
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Hi!
Azalea from My Garden:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DPrOhRbKuJs/T7qh7mh8RoI/AAAAAAAAIH0/ueHAwbYtW3Q/s640/IMG_0961.JPG)
Best Regards! zvone
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The first is another terrific Pogoantha species, trichostomum and here the selection Rae Berry. Rae who lived in Portland, Oregon was a subscriber to Forrest's China expeditions, she had met him in the lobby of a hotel in Honolulu and ambushed him and signed up on the spot! When she sowed 100 flats of his first seed distribution she loaded them up in her car and drove them up into the mountains to spend the winter, retrieving them out of the snow in Spring. She had great germination. Now that's dedication!
The last photo a very unusual form of kiusianum, little sparrow from the Japanese. There is only one other red kiusianum - name escapes me ('Yubae' maybe) but it's rather flat growing - but this one is very close to orange though it doesn't show well in the photo.
johnw
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My contribution today is Rh bureavii and Loiseleuria procumbens! Bureavii do very well here and has a lot of flowers this year. The alpine azalea do not grow in my garden though.
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Here a few from today:
(729) My own collection of heliolepis from Yunnan BH-131 september 1996.
(730) campylogynum Black form
(734) Great Expectation with a few white Hardy Gardenia
jens
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Lovely rhodos Jens, I do like the colouring of (730) campylogynum Black form, most unusual.
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I have tried a couple of clones of hardy gardenias, without success.
Now, I must see if I can get a black campylogynum.
Here are a couple of Rhododendron occidentale which I grew from seed,
I think from seed I collected in California. They scent the air all around.
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I have tried a couple of clones of hardy gardenias, without success.
Diane - Of course the 'Hardy Gardenia' in Jens' picture is an evergreen azalea!
Briggs Nursery has a new Gardenia that is reputedly hardier than 'Klehm's Hardy'. It's G. jasminoides Summer Snow. Karen at Briggs tells me she left one in a pot in a wheelbarrow at her second home in Pennsylvania for an entire winter, she planted it and it flowered the following summer. Might be worth a try but I don't hold out much hope for it here.
Smashing heliopsis there Jens.
johnw
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There are a few nurseries in the UK selling "hardy Gardenias"... I've yet to hear of one which has actually survived outside.... I'd like to hear from anyone in Scotland who has had success with one... it's a question that comes up from time to time on the radio phone-in garden programme.
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Lawsy Ms. Scarlet Gardenias are as foreign to our climates as sultry nights and mint juleps.
johnw
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Lawsy Ms. Scarlet Gardenias are as foreign to our climates as sultry nights and mint juleps.
johnw
Sad, but true.........
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Who has time to look for Gardenias with all those fantastic Rhodos out there ???
An unknown (actually two different shrubs and slightly different flowers too) just outside the door with Rodgersia aesculifolia and Geranium phaeum.
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Who has time to look for Gardenias with all those fantastic Rhodos out there ???
An unknown (actually two different shrubs and slightly different flowers too) just outside the door with Rodgersia aesculifolia and Geranium phaeum.
Thank's Hoy!
Best Regards! zvone
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Several years ago I bought two "hardy" Gardenias which were supposed to be frost resistant. They were planted in two different parts of the garden. Neither made it through the winter. Although Ayrshire is relatively mild, the rain and continual gales turned the foliage into crisps. Expensive experiment over!
This winter has been a disaster for my Rhoddies. It looked like an early flowering season as the buds on nearly all the plants were well formed late last Autumn.
Of course, the frost came just as many were about to open - the ones that survived the frost were seared by 3 days of Easterly gales.However, I was heartened to see my 40 year old Yak. take everything that was thrown at it and still burst into flower 10 days ago.
A trip round Culzean yesterday was interesting. A talk with one of the gardeners produced much the same storey. A good flowering of Magnolias and large leaved Rhoddies. only to be wiped out by a late frost. However, a walk round the garden produced two Magnolia Grandifloras in flower and this huge, old Rhoddie. bursting with blooms. This plant is about 10 metres tall and must be well over 100 years old. It sits next to a Cedar of Lebanon which was planted in the late 18th century.
At least I got my fill of Rhoddies. for the day.
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R. campylogynum myrtillioides
Thrown away? A dwarf rhodo? Threatened with the dump? :o Utterly shocking...
This is a really super little rhodo. I'm supposing that since it is in a pot and was going to be thrown out, it may not be in the best of health right now.
It is a plant that can be grown in a pot and will make a stunning show plant in good order.
Here in NE Scotland this plant would do in quite a sunny situation. I an area where the weather gets very hot and dry it might prefer a slightly shaded position. If the rescue plant is in poor condition, I'd keep it out of too much cold and bad weather meantime, protected under a hedge, perhaps?
Plant it out (when the spring is truly springing) enriched with good leaf mould and in a free draining spot.
Some bone meal amongst the leaf mould seems to be enjoyed by them here.
If the foliage is looking a bit yellow and grotty (the leaves should in good health be mid to dark green, aromatic when crushed and generally shiny) give the plant a dose of MirAcid feed or Vitax Q4 .
The little plummy pink thimble flowers have a dusky bloom on them and are just delightful.
The plant is slow growing, beautiful and pretty tough.... worthy of a place in your garden I am quite sure.
Followed your advice Maggi, and while its not going to win any prizes ( yet! ;D ), at least it has survived and the bees are loving the little flowers. Thanks again Maggi, 8)
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Ah, I love a happy ending. I'm sure that next year it will be a real smasher, Ron. Those flowers are too cute to be without!
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Tom that Rhododendron is amazing. Mine were really affected with the late frosts. I don't fancy deadheading that Rhodos, on that subject do you folks dead head your Rhododendrons ( the ones that you can reach off course ) ;D
Angie :)
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Iused to dead head them all. Even the dwarf ones with thousands of little flowers... but now I only dead head the ones with bigger flowers. The dwarves I just give a good "rummle" with both hands.... for the non-Scots speakers, that equates to rubbing my hands vigourously across the surface of the plants: this dislodges any loose decaying flowers and also knock off some incipient seed heads. I've found that with mature dwarf rhodos that is all that is needed... here they will flower just as well the next year without "proper" dead heading. I like to keep up with the larger flowered ones though... they seem to have their new growth more inhibited by the presence of dead flowers and also to be more likely to make seed heads which can look a bit untidy (if you don't want the seed!)
I've given up climbing ladders to do that though... only work on the ones I can reach from two feet planted firmly on the ground.
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Just back in for a coffee break so I will go out and rumble my baby ones once I finish my biscuit. I hate doing the big ones as they take ages, was ok when I only had a few. I did wander if they were better getting the old flowers removed. They look better thats for sure.
Ok coffee and biscuitssssss finished, away to dead head before all this rain comes.
Angie :)
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I hate to see the dead flowers hanging on the stems so I remove them. The two exceptions are my 40 year old Yakushimanum and Ginny Gee. Leaving the old flower stalks on does not seem to affect the next years flowers although it spoils the look of the plant. My "sin" is to be let loose with the secateurs. Any dead wood has to be removed. Cindy has to restrain me when walking about gardens with cries of "leave it alone" as I test the Rhodie. branches for brittle dead wood.!
Although flowering of the Rhododendrons was poor, the new growth is shooting ahead due to the abundant rain and coolish temperature. I can see a problem with this. If we have a mild Autumn, then the plants will try to flower and get wiped out again by frosts later on. With the others, the flower buds will be so far advanced that a couple of mild days will open them only to be zapped by the next cold spell.
With the change in our climate, the poor plants are getting very confused as am I - possibly age related.
I checked the nursery beds at Logan to see how the new introductions were doing. The late heavy frosts and searing winds had set back several varieties.
However, the crassums were in full scent mode. A beautiful perfume that gets down to the bottom of your lungs. I can grow this plant putside but the blooms are always badly affected by frosts and cold winds. However there was a new variety -to me -named excellens which had lovely waxy scented flowers. Not hardy enough for my garden
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My goodness, doesn't that crassum even look like it smells good!
I know what you mean about dead wood, Tom. Removal can be a scratchy job on the little ones, though.
I get frustrated by the amount of dead wood that accumulates in Acers. Many of ours are too tall for me to get at them and it bothers me - a lot :(
The wood pigeons and crows do their best to help me out by working through the trees, snapping off the twiggy bits for nesting, but they are not as thorough as I'd like. A case of pay peanuts, get bird brains, I reckon.... ;)
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Before and after ;D only got two done before the rain started :(
Ang :)
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Hi!
Azalea...azalea... from My Garden!
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Best Regards! zvone
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The last Rhododendron to flower in my garden. It brightens up the view from the sitting room window on these gloomy days we are having just now.
Rhododendron 'Lava Flow'
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It's always nice to have a few late azaleas at this time of year. All of these, just coming out, are under one foot tall, the first about 4 feet across.
1 a North Tisbury hybrid and a good-doer here 'Marilee', orangey salmon.
2 my own hybrid, hot pink and quite harsh
3 a rather gaudy pictooe, again my own hybrid
4 a very pale pastel, again my own hybrid
johnw - 28c
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I rather like the picotee.... I don't think I've seen one like it.
The last pale one is really pretty.
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A picture of the last Rh. to flower - Rh. Hirsutum Floro plene. We bought this at Cox's last year to have a late flowering variety. It turned out to be a good idea as it had not produced flower buds until the late frosts had gone and sailed through unscathed.
Winsome was hit badly by the frost and only managed one flower, however, it has made up for this by an accelerated growth spurt. The new stems have grown 6" already and has made me realise that the plant is much larger than I thought! At this rate it will be coming in the back door.
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Maggi. Cindy is approx. your height. This Rhododendron is the original introduction, or so I am led to believe. It stands about 16 feet tall.
Last two pictures, I hope !!
Lovely photos!
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I was rather confused by this quote. I had not noticed the date of the posting to which you were referring and was trying to find Cindy in my two pictures.
On this scale she would be about the size of a small garden gnome - or is that gnomess?
I will have to see if I can find the original post as I cannot remember where or when it was taken.
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I was rather confused by this quote. I had not noticed the date of the posting to which you were referring and was trying to find Cindy in my two pictures.
On this scale she would be about the size of a small garden gnome - or is that gnomess?
I will have to see if I can find the original post as I cannot remember where or when it was taken.
Benmore in 2007, Tom.
This post is the one with Cindy and the R. hookeri on page two of this thread...
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10.msg7757#msg7757 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=10.msg7757#msg7757)
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Time for leaves, not flowers! Rh bureavii is as good with new growth as it is when blooming!
15.8. and 29.5.
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I could not agree with you more! R. bureavii is one of my most favourite of all.
I have two- one in the back garden and one on the front garden, right by my window here, so I can always see it's fine shape and wonderful foliage. The new shoots as they emerge, silvery and full of promise, and the transformation to the ginger indumentum, which so perfectly catches the sun and make the bush come alive with the warmth of fire, are just one of the greatest joys in the garden.
And to think that a panellist on a radio programme said, the other week, that "while she would not be without rhodos in the garden, after they have flowered they are pretty boring" :o :o
Honestly! I am not joking- It beggars belief. >:( :(
I have hundreds of rhodos in my garden, and there are almost as many foliage forms as there are rhodos 8)
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I could not agree with you more! R. bureavii is one of my most favourite of all.
I have two- one in the back garden and one on the front garden, right by my window here, so I can always see it's fine shape and wonderful foliage. The new shoots as they emerge, silvery and full of promise, and the transformation to the ginger indumentum, which so perfectly catches the sun and make the bush come alive with the warmth of fire, are just one of the greatest joys in the garden.
And to think that a panellist on a radio programme said, the other week, that "while she would not be without rhodos in the garden, after they have flowered they are pretty boring" :o :o
Honestly! I am not joking- It beggars belief. >:( :(
I have hundreds of rhodos in my garden, and there are almost as many foliage forms as there are rhodos 8)
I suppose the panellist spoke about some of the modern hybrids. Although they often have very nice and diverse flowers the leaves are very similar.
Rh auriculatum does flower now! It isn't more than 6 trusses but they fill the garden nearby with a beautiful perfume :) Unfortunately the big leaves are damaged by strong wind last winter.
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I was beside myself with excitiemnt when my R. auriculatum flowered for the very first time last year...... at some 27 or so years old. I had hopes for another flower or two this year but I may be disappointed. No movement in what I hoped were flower buds.
The foliage always gets damaged here because it is so very late into growth that there is always cold windy weather to rip the leaves. :'(
I will just look at your photos and dream of delicious scent! ::)
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R. auriculatum
They flowered a bit earlier than usual in southern Nova Scotia. From July 31, 2012 the first and third shots are of a Peter Wharton collection made in Guizhou in 1994 with very big flowers. Not quite 20 years old the plant is a monster, over 4 meters high and so one cannot poke one's head into that fragrant truss. The bud just about to open was from UBC seed.
johnw
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The plants look very healthy and nice, John!
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Hi,
I'm not a specialist but took this pic in LYON's BG. The plant is settled in a cool glass house along with CAMELLIAS.
Hope it'll be of interest.
JP
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Hi everyone,
I am looking for a recommendation for a rhododendron to include in a planting scheme for college and was wondering if you can help.
Currently we are revamping the shade border, after some serious pruning of adjacent trees ;D the border is now partially shaded rather than deeply shaded. We are looking to fill in the gaps within the existing border and plant up an extension to the border. I would really like to put in Rhododendron 'Polar Bear' but at an eventual height of 5metres it is a little too large for the area I have been assigned.
Can anyone recommend a really good clean white Rhododendron which is evergreen, scented and preferably very free flowering over a long period but which will reach a maximum of 2.5 - 3.0metres in height?
Thanks in advance
Susan :)
PS I am hoping to update the college thread some point this year but as you an tell by my absence college has really picked up the pace! But I am still smiling and enjoying it.
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Hi Susan!
My rhododendrom is something analogous...
Send for "sample"
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More Pictures : http://zvonem.blogspot.si/ (http://zvonem.blogspot.si/)
Best Regards! zvone
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Thanks zvone , it is a lovely looking plant, but I think the pink blush will look wrong amongst the other planting.
The border already contains several rhododendrons and camellias, all of which are deep pink, whilst the adjacent winter stem border has plants with vibrant stems. So I think any additional plants introduced to the scheme will also need to be bold, white (and possibly yellow) flowers would blend best I think.
Has anyone grown Rhododendron 'Sappho' or 'Silver Sixpence'? Not quite the clear whites I am after but the best I've managed to find upto now.
Susan :)
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I grew 'Sappho' for a few years - then gave it to a friend needing a good sized plant to furnish a new garden. It flowered well from a young age and the flowers, white with a big "blackcurrant jam" blotch, are quite showy. The foliage is pretty standard, no excitment there, but that may not be a drawback in the position you have outlined.
It was the dark purple blotching in the flowers that attracted me in the first place.
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auriculatum
or how about Pieris - a shrub that does something interesting in all seasons.
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Can anyone please identify this Rhodo for me? It is about 16 years old now and maybe 2.5 metres in height but has been forced up somewhat by its surroundings. The truss is roughly globular and is about 18cms from top to bottom and from side to side. There is very light spotting but not on every flower. Possible names might include 'Halfdan Lem,' 'Lem's Monarch' and 'Trude Webster' which I remember bringing with me to this garden but some have gone elsewhere in the meantime. It could be something else quite different as well. I plan to move it so would like a name. Thanks.
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Lesley
Trude Webster it is for sure, pronounced Trood/Trewd. Monstrously big. Is it staying or going?
Halfdan Lem is a big rosy red with black green leaves and Lem's Monarch is a bicolour - see pix from a few years ago.
johnw
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auriculatum
or how about Pieris - a shrub that does something interesting in all seasons.
Thanks Diane, auriculatum looks spot on. I am planning on putting some Pieris in elsewhere in the border, as you say it's a good all round plant.
Thanks for your help everyone.
Susan :)
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Thank you John. I though Trude was probably the most likely as I remember Lem's Monarch in particular as being taller than wide, in the truss, though I may be MIS-remembering. Anyway I'm very pleased to know thanks, and she will be going. I think 'Halfdan Lem' may already be in the garden we should be moving to. I say should be, because... I'll PM, it's rather complicated.
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Can anyone recommend a really good clean white Rhododendron which is evergreen, scented and preferably very free flowering over a long period but which will reach a maximum of 2.5 - 3.0metres in height?
Susan - See my posting (reply 510), our auriculatums from Peter Wharton's collection in Guizhou are already past your maximum required size. I reckon they'll get another meter or two high; add a meter or two to the height to get the width. In short they're monsters. To quote Alleyne Cook who moved a giant auriculatum from the Royston Nursery on Vancouver Island to the Ted & Mary Greig Garden in Vancouver. At Royston he noted: "The auriculatums were, in 1951, 26 feet high. That is about one foot a year. received a First Class Certificate (F.C.C.) in 1946 but no one ever knew which bush the truss came from."... "The big one, moved from the Royston Nursery on Vancouver Island, measured fifteen feet high and fifty feet in circumference, and carried 8,000 flowers."
Would hemsleyanum or diaprepes 'Gargantuan', both late ones, fill the bill? Even one of the Royston hybrids might do and I think Glendoick might still have one or two of them.
johnw
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'Polar Bear' is a fantastic rhodo but again, probably too tall ultimately. It flowers very late - Christmas time here and even January and is pure white and fragrant.
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Susan - See my posting (reply 510), our auriculatums from Peter Wharton's collection in Guizhou are already past your maximum required size. I reckon they'll get another meter or two high; add a meter or two to the height to get the width. In short they're monsters. To quote Alleyne Cook who moved a giant auriculatum from the Royston Nursery on Vancouver Island to the Ted & Mary Greig Garden in Vancouver. At Royston he noted: "The auriculatums were, in 1951, 26 feet high. That is about one foot a year. received a First Class Certificate (F.C.C.) in 1946 but no one ever knew which bush the truss came from."... "The big one, moved from the Royston Nursery on Vancouver Island, measured fifteen feet high and fifty feet in circumference, and carried 8,000 flowers."
Would hemsleyanum or diaprepes 'Gargantuan', both late ones, fill the bill? Even one of the Royston hybrids might do and I think Glendoick might still have one or two of them.
johnw
aahhhhh - so those helpful websites that told me it would get to 2m in 10 years - were technically telling the truth, they just omitted to say that after 10 years it would carry on getting bigger. Sneaky :-X
The Yak x hemsleyanum cross 'Helen Everett' sounds good slightly smaller than I originally wanted but will fit in very nicely with the rest of the scheme.
Thanks for you advice
Susan :)
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Susan - You have to watch those rhododendron people.
johnw
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Not only that Susan .... bear in mind that I waited nearly thirty years for flowers on MY
R. auriculatum! :-X :P If it is a windy site or exposed to frost, the foliage will get shredded because it starts so late in the year and the young leaves are very thin when our frosts start.
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aahhhhh - so those helpful websites that told me it would get to 2m in 10 years - were technically telling the truth, they just omitted to say that after 10 years it would carry on getting bigger. Sneaky :-X
The same applies to sellers of dwarf conifers. It may well grow to 60cms in 10 years but life goes on and after 20 years, it could be 5 metres! You don't want to throw it out - or cut it down - after so long but because of where you planted it in the first place, it's about to take the roof off the house! :o
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OK - evergreen, not too tall, scented, pure white.
I have several bullatums, which are now included with edgeworthii.
Wonderful perfume, beautiful flowers, though mine are
all flushed pink. You can probably get pure white ones. Also, you
will have to choose a compact form - one of mine throws out branches
waaaaay over there (which I have pegged down to layer).
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In flower yet again, vireya Rhododendron Tropic Glow x saxifragoides. The flowers last for months.
Bracing for a 25-35cm snowfall overnight... ::)
johnw
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A friend in the city of Timaru - she is no longer alive alas - told me once that with Vireyas it's not a matter of seasonal flowering as their countries of origin don't have that sort of climate, but rather of when there is sufficient water available, so when one batch of flowers had gone she would water copiously and very soon there would be another set of buds forming. Wet and warm (she had them potted in a sunny porch) seemed to be the answer.
I'm finding, now that summer is warming up a bit after a poor start, that the same applies with hardy types, so far as the foliage goes anyway. I have a few dwarfs that were close to death but now potted and with the warmer weather and good deep watering, they are making new growth where I never thought there would be any, even the white R. camtschaticum, while the older foliage is going bright yellow already. The new growth is starting within just a couple of days of the first good water.
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Lesley - So your camtschaticums hold their previous year's foliage until new foliage is made? If so I hate to inform you but you probably don't have a winter in Dunedin! ;)
johnw
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Well no John, that doesn't happen, except here, with Liquidambers. The yellowed leaves fall and then it remains bare for quite a while, new growth in maybe August but because it was so dry and actually contemplating whether to die or not, its leaves were turning yellow and a few had fallen. It's only with this huge watering its had over the last week that the new growth is appearing, seemingly unrelated to the older foliage. But OK, honestly we don't have a winter here, not to compare with the North American or European ones anyway. Our new place, I'm told, may, one year in perhaps 3, get as low as -5C, but rarely for more than a couple of days in succession. Much like that here too. Sorry to have to tell you that. ;D
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because it was so dry and actually contemplating whether to die or not, its leaves were turning yellow and a few had fallen.
Ah I see. Young white camtschaticums always seem to be contemplating death. After five years they seem as easy as the others.
johnw
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Hi!
The look on a Rhododendron can be beautiful also within winter...
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More Pictures: http://zvonem.blogspot.si/news/ (http://zvonem.blogspot.si/news/)
Best Regards! zvone
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Today was the Benmore group's annual pre-season visit conducted by Peter Baxter. We had an update to the garden's activities and work under way and a quick tour to see the current progress. The day before there had been a snowfall and this was evident on the surrounding hills but today it was plain west coast rain although Peter said that the rainfall had been below average -hard to believe.
We saw the work on the ornamental jubilee gates which should be finished in time for opening, then to the Fernery for a look round. Some photos attached. The two most interesting points for me was the news that they were being given more species of Rhododendrons to plant - you can never have too many. The other point of great interest was a new software program containing the record of all the plants in situ
When this is complete, it will enable a search for a plant to be made. Then all plants of this name will have their position shown on a map of the grounds. So, if you type in Rh.oreodoxa, all the plants of this name will be shown in their exact location in the garden. Conversely, clicking on a plant on the map will bring up its name. As far as I know this will be available on line sometime in the future - sounds a brilliant idea.
The afternoon finished with a talk by Carol Rowe, of Kilarden gardens Roseneath, on rhododendrons in her garden. The garden is open on 14 April under Scottish gardens schemes - a definite date for our calendar. I was having some trouble resizing pictures for this post and have also tried the new resizer - anything could happpen so here goes.
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Seemed to work, now some more
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Last few
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My word, all those flowers at this time of year- makes my eyes water. That hillside looks cold though.
The new listing methods sound marvelous.
More on Carol Rowe's woodland rhododendron garden : http://www.rosneathpeninsula.org.uk/area/gardens/kilarden-folder (http://www.rosneathpeninsula.org.uk/area/gardens/kilarden-folder)
The NGS link: http://www.scotlandsgardens.org/gardens/garden/d7970034-a480-45da-968b-99c5010c65fd (http://www.scotlandsgardens.org/gardens/garden/d7970034-a480-45da-968b-99c5010c65fd)
Mr and Mrs J.E. Rowe
Rosneath
G84 0PU
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TC has shown us photos from Crarae Garden in the past. This garden is famous for its old rhodos so this video tale from the National Trust for Scotland may be of interest:
http://www.nts.org.uk/ScotlandsStories/PlantHuntersTale/ (http://www.nts.org.uk/ScotlandsStories/PlantHuntersTale/)
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The last of TC's picture is like from a fairytale :)
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A few days of sunshine and Rhododendron cilpinense has decided to open. This usually heralds a return to night frosts !!
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A visit to Culzean castle yesterday for a look at how Spring was coming along. It looks as if it will be a few weeks until the Rhododendrons will start flowering although there are some signs already. The Rh.arboreums are just about bursting from bud but it will need a few warm days to have this happen. Because of the age of the trees, the main flower trusses are about 50 feet up amongst the Firs and Pines.
A lot of old (200 years ) trees have been felled by various Winter storms and this has given large areas of glades which have been mainly planted with large leaved Rhododendrons. These seem in an ideal situation being protected overhead by very large Firs. In 30 years they should give a wonderful show - for my Grandchildren - not me !
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I was at the Edinburgh Botanics for the Royal Caley's Spring Show and popped into the glasshouses while I was there. These three epiphytic rhododendrons were looking particularly good. Apparently you can graft these types onto a ground-dwelling root-stock and grow them that way - not sure how easy it is, but it sounds like something worth looking in to.
1. Rhododendron himantodes
2. Rhododendron 'Lucy Sorensen'
3. Rhododendron herzogii x aurigeranum
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You've cheered my day with these, David.
The notion of them being growable on a ground-dwelling rootstock is most appealing- will keep an eye open for any word of that, or perhaps others have more information?
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These three epiphytic rhododendrons were looking particularly good.
I have never heard of epipytic rhododendrons - they look amazing
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There are a lot of rhodos which are epiphytic- most of them are in the Vireya section, from Indonesia, Malaysia and New Guinea. - mostly glamorous, tender plants- often flowering through winter - or repeatedly- and deliciously scented as well as brightly coloured. Have a look here to get you started-
http://www.vireya.net/ (http://www.vireya.net/)
http://www.rbge.org.uk/the-gardens/rhododendrons (http://www.rbge.org.uk/the-gardens/rhododendrons)
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David the R,. himantodes is positively smashing. At first glance I thought the most beautiful Mt. Laurel. And then those leaves!
Tom how right you are. My first half dozen February trips to the west coast - "oh you just missed Cilpinense, it got clobbered x nights ago". And that Culzean R. barbatum! I'll never forget the monster at Inverewe braving the flurries in March.
johnw
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I was absolutely correct. The Cilpinense was covered in fleece but to no avail. With temperatures just above freezing here for the last 10 days it gave up ! Instead of flowers, it is now covered in what looks like brown Kleenex.
It was the same at Culzean a few days ago, anything that tried to flower has been blasted by the near gale force N. winds.
We were "lucky" with the weather and did not get any snow, but around us it was bad -especially Galloway. By now we would have visited Logan gardens for the Magnolias and some early Rhods. but the coast road was closed due to snowdrifts. When I think of Arran, we were really lucky - it is only 25 miles from us in a straight line. Hopefully Brodick was spared the worst with the west side of the island taking the brunt.
Snowdrifts of 15' were reported in Kintyre - I hope Crarae escaped with no damage.
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Tom - A friend just got back from 4 weeks in Kishorn and said it was sunny and unusually nice for March.
johnw
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Apparently you can graft these types onto a ground-dwelling root-stock and grow them that way - not sure how easy it is, but it sounds like something worth looking in to.
John, do you know much about this ?
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You've cheered my day with these, David.
The notion of them being growable on a ground-dwelling rootstock is most appealing- will keep an eye open for any word of that, or perhaps others have more information?
It was Abbie Jury in NZ who I was speaking to about this (from the Jury family of magnolia breeders) so maybe it's a super-skilled process that's beyond us mere mortals!
David the R,. himantodes is positively smashing. At first glance I thought the most beautiful Mt. Laurel. And then those leaves!
I was very surprised that R. himantodes was a rhododendron at all! The leaves and flowers are both really striking.
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Rhododendron ochraceum flowering here in Kent today - the first to flower this year.
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I noticed some discussion of Section Vireya in this thread. Here's R. jasminiflorum in my polytunnel in 2009. Hasn't flowered yet this year, but it does so every year. The scent is amazing.
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R. jasminiflorum has such elegant flowers.
I presume the tunnel is unheated and so it is just the tunnel that is offering protection to this charming vireya?
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Lovely jasminiflorum jrc!
Here's a mystery Madennia I'd love to know the name of, I spied it in a greenhouse earlier in the week. Not that it turns my crank but I wasn't aware of double Maddies. Little fragrance, the flowers were about 3.5-4" across.
Sorry I missed the question on grafting Vireyas to ground dweller. I have no ideas but with Vireyas seemingly doing something every month of the year I'm at a loss to think what one would graft them on. I presume a tender lepidote.
johnw - bracing for a very messy WINTER storm tonight. Enough..........
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That double is not something I've ever seen. Sounds as though the flowers are certainly big enough to be more than eye-catching.
Good luck with the weather - you're right, this winter is going on for too long, for too many of us.
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No, it's heated, and has growlights in winter, so the climate approximates to montane tropical - always frost free.
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Sounds very comfortable - room for a little fat one ?! ::) ;)
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Well, this little fat one likes it, but she doesn't mind the drizzle either!
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Fine figure of a cat there in Charlotte - thought for a moment that was a photo of me in my duffle coat out enjoying our delightful spring weather.......... ;)
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Good luck with the weather - you're right, this winter is going on for too long, for too many of us.
We dodged the bullet, tiny skid of snow last night that was gone by morning.
johnw
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Maggi - Ken Cox says that double looks like johnstoneanum 'Double Diamond'.
johnw
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I'm sure he is correct - I've just searched for pix of that and it can look quite striking, I discover.
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More years ago than I care to remeber I used to admire a rhodo near the exit at Bodnant Garden which I found to be Endsleigh Pink. About 15 years ago I spotted a small plant at Burcoose Nursery and bought it. Most years it has been blighted by frost but the cold weather this year has held it back and at least for now it is doing OK
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Also this one is doing OK. Again it often gets frosted but it has wonderful new growth as well as beautiful flowers. R calophytum. I am not a latin scholar but I think the name means beautiful plant
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Hi!
Some Azalea's:
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(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-mv4lPHPBRxE/UYLTD0pA46I/AAAAAAAARkg/jx9yf93iG8c/s640/20130501_094144-all.jpg)
and Rhododendron:
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(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-j2I15ye0QAI/UYLTI64yM8I/AAAAAAAARlA/t2_uP2Zh5N4/s640/20130502_171552.jpg)
Best Regards! zvone
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zvone - The first two pictures show lepidote rhododendrons not azaleas. Do you know the name of the yellow?
johnw
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zvone - The first two pictures show lepidote rhododendrons not azaleas. Do you know the name of the yellow?
johnw
Hi johnw!
I'm not certain:
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(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vWFmVMlQzxs/UYVvqo5iP6I/AAAAAAAARmo/2Eat23-mNB8/s640/20130427_101202.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QtKiAMK6DoM/UYLS_lEsnlI/AAAAAAAARkI/4Z8gYn3lxyo/s640/20130427_101220-11.jpg)
Unfortunately I don't know, how yellow azaleji's name is.
Best Regards! zvone
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Rhododendron cubittii flowering in the greenhouse. It is scented but not as nice as 'Lady Alice Fitzwilliam' which will be flowering soon.
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My one and only Rhodo, cephalanthum var crebreflorum, I have it in a trough.
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Well one can't do much better than that Mark. There is great debate on this subject - I think the foliage smells of strawberry, others say everything but, what's your take on the fragrance?
johnw
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Roma
When I was reading your post I could smell Lady Alice F. which is sitting in a large pot on the table next to the computer.
It came into bloom a week ago in the greenhouse but the scent off my orange tree over powered it, so much so that I had to remove the tree to another room. The scent of the orange blossom reminds us of the plantations in Phasouri, Cyprus. To sit next to them in the cool of an evening was paradise. The perfume was so strong you could taste it. There was a farm shop at the crossroads and I remember buying 13 giant white grapefruit for £1.00. That must have been 20 years ago.!
The next "smelly" Rhods. -Fragrantissimum and Sesterianum will be flowering by tomorrow. I am trying desperately to find a space for them in the house.
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John, it certainly has a sweet berry smell, with perhaps a touch of pine.
Now I'm hungry.
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Well one can't do much better than that Mark. There is great debate on this subject - I think the foliage smells of strawberry, others say everything but, what's your take on the fragrance?
johnw
Thanks John. I had no idea that there was a scent from the leaves. Not strawberries for me but definitely fruity although almost minty too.
The one with the strongest leaf scent for me is R. campylogynum leucanthum. I only have to brush past it for it to emit its scent.
Graham
Graham
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Hi!
Rhododendrom .... every Garden should have soem...
From My Garden:
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Best Regards! zvone
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Two Rhododendrons flowering now
Rhododendron calostrotum 'Gigha' the colour seems even brighter this year than usual
I don't remember the name of the second one. The colour is more purple than appears in the photo
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I thought I'd post this before tomorrow nights forecast -2 !!
If anyone could give me a name I'd be even happier with it. The nursery I bought it from had lost the label
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A few pictures of what is in flower just now before the northern semi - gales. I have used the SRGC picture downsizer for these shots. It is easy to use but the size of the picture produced is really only suitable for smaller plants. For Rhododendrons the flower detail on the plant is lost.
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A few more "flowers" associated with the Rhods. I hit a slight snag in posting. The pictures were all downsized below 200 kb using the SRGC downsizer. - I then put three into photoshop to lighten them up as I had taken the shots in the evening. The fact of doing this AFTER using the downsizer increased the file size to 360kb and the posting stalled until I had worked out the fault. I then had to cancel the pictures and resize in photoshop.
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I can't boast of the neat and tidy shrubs you show, guys! My rhodos are more boisterous ;D
Here are a few flowering now:
Rh. repens hybrid, don't know which one
Rh. roxieanum soon finished
This one I should know, it is a common one . . .
Rh. pachysanthum
Rh 'Jacksonii' in the shadow of a big relative.
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Here come some more!
An unknown cross, got it as a small seedling.
Same
Another unknown seedling. The trusses look small but are not. Huge leaves and very long shoots. It is 3-4m tall
Same
Rh. thomsonii soon making a tree.
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Some lovely rhodos Trond, and looking very at home.
A new angle for the Norwegian Tourist Board? ;) ;D
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Hi!
Rhododendrom from My garden:
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Best Regards! zvone
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Lovely sight!
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Especially keen on that big red with the huge leaves Hoy!
Here Bridal Bouquet, another Pogonantha.
johnw
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Some lovely rhodos Trond, and looking very at home.
A new angle for the Norwegian Tourist Board? ;) ;D
Thanks ashley, I feel very much at home too ;) -and I get a busload of "tourists" in 2 weeks ???
Especially keen on that big red with the huge leaves Hoy!
johnw
johnw, the leaves look very similar to calophytum or sutchuenense but the flowers don't! And it is much later.
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Rhododendron rigidum, bought from Linn Botanic Garden, Argyll.
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Quite a collection you have Trond
Some cinnabarinum and types from me
cinnabarinum and close up
"cinnkeys" a hybrid between cinnabarinum and keysii and close up
Lady chamberlain
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Hoy - Yes sutchuenense immediately came to mind but as you say the flowers, where on earth did they come from?
Today I almost drove down the coast 3.5 hours to see this flower. I took this shot on the 21st of May and have been dying with curiosity ever since. A friend is going by to take pictures and hopefully collect pollen. The flower count is somewhere between 43-45 and I suspect lanigerum is the culprit. First flowering as you may have guessed; I'm particularly keen on the bud scales.
johnw
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My that Cinnkeys is spiffy Ian.
Here are a pair from last week. I should send you cuttings of Sir Nigel in August.
johnw
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My that Cinnkeys is spiffy Ian.
Here are a pair from last week. I should send you cuttings of Sir Nigel in August.
johnw
Thanks John Yes cinnkeys is nice and the flowers seem to last longer than most. I have too many rhodos -if you can have such a thing -and over the last couple of years I have made the situation worse by buying new ones mostly species with interesting foliage. I am now looking at the plants wondering what will happen if the all grow well :-\
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Hi Ian, seems you have some yourself!
Here are some more flowering now.
Rh cinnabarinum, cinnabarinum xanthocodon, sherriffii cerasinum and 'Tree Creeper'. The last one grows in no soil but the moss on a great rock. Although the flowers of sherriffii cerasinum hang down and are partly hidden by the leaves I like the colour and the elegant hanging bells.
Sorry, sherriffii was wrong, it is cerasinum Kingdon-Ward 11011 'Coals of Fire'. I found the label ;D
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Rhododendron 'Ruby Hart', a good red, and Rhododendron spinuliferum, an oddity.
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Some more rhodos in my garden. Some are unnamed seedlings or I have lost the labels. Rh 'Karin' by the main door (and a hose just used for watering the pots).
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...and some more. My woodland is getting too crowded by the rhododendrons.
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...even more. The first picture shows the step by the garden entrance to the house. The next ones close-ups of the rhodos there.
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The last ones for now. Rh orbiculare - it is the last branch of a large shrub which died of unknown reasons. One of the best for all an all year show is Rh bureavii.
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Trond - Rhodo 1 could be wardii itself or what was once puralbum.
Can you take a look at this rhodo which I discovered on a campusa few weeks ago? We think it may be Karin, it's a bit rosier than the photos show.
johnw
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Certainly some wardii influence on Trond's #1 unknown - but there is a lot of cream in the colour if the pic is true to shade :-\ My puralbum is just that - whiter than white.
John, Karin has a sister, Linda - just that bit more pink and looking very like the campus plant - yours may be Linda......
So many lovely rhodos here- I hope it might be inspiring some of the rhodo-doubters ;D
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Trond - Rhodo 1 could be wardii itself or what was once puralbum.
Can you take a look at this rhodo which I discovered on a campus a few weeks ago? We think it may be Karin, it's a bit rosier than the photos show.
johnw
John and Maggi, I think you are right in supposing some wardii blood in it, but it is certainly not puralbum as it is yellow, more than the picture shows and more than cream, rather pale lemon. I think I got it either as wardii or a wardii cross. At that time I was looking for the real wardii. This one was a bit disappointing as it was too pale and lacked the red blotch.
I think Maggi is right in suggesting that your plant is Linda, and not Karin - if mine is correctly named! It is a little different from yours, especially the leaves. Colour is difficult to say anything about.
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Trond - R. wardii v. puralbum is indeed white as Maggi says and it was white here. Cox says it is closer to and not as hardy as souliei, pink in bud fading to white and unblotched. The yellow to land is LS7T#5679, still my favourite but as Jens will agree you best buy it in flower as who knows what is sold or propagated with that number these days.
Maggi & Trond - I check it out that campus plant against LInda.
Thanks
john
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First thanks to the moderator and John W for quick help to get back to the forum
I have been very curious to see a photo of the (aureum x lanigerum) hybrid
with amazing 35 flower in the truss , it seems that 25% aureum have giving more hardiness.
One have been told that aureum schould be avoid in hybrids.
Enclosed a photo of my 4 yrs old Goldsprenkel x Nikomontanum
(Nikomontanum = aureum x brachycaroum)
Again here 25% aureum included so this may be the way to do it.
And John W You are absolut right about the wardii
birck
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Here some shots from yhe last days:
163 ( Nancy Evans x (Bambi x proteoides)#15)
244 roxieanum
256 heliolepis own coll.
311 Fantastika x lanatum
780 Scotian Rosebud
birck
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And one more!
Tessa Dane in morning light
birck
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This Rhododendron camtschaticum is running wild its just a pity it hasn't flowered as well as it's growing.
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Still looking great Graham !
Out here, Rhododendron yakushimanum is at it's peak.... and R. kiusianum is just a wee bit smaller... ;D
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Visited the Rhododendron Garden at Bowood House, Wiltshire on Monday. 65 acres of magnificence! According to the website "This is a spectacular attraction offering breathtaking vistas of colour and beauty covering over 60 acres. This woodland oasis of azaleas, magnolias and rhododendrons is considered to be one of the most exciting gardens of its type in the country; it lies on a seam of greensand running from Poole in Dorset to The Wash on the East Coast.
The woodland garden surrounds the family mausoleum, one of Robert Adam’s finest Classical buildings, which was commissioned in 1761 by the widow of the 1st Earl of Shelburne, who purchased Bowood in 1754.
Recently, the Rhododendron Walks have been the subject of one of the most exciting and significant horticultural finds – over 30 original hardy hybrids which were thought to be extinct. The original plants date back to when the garden was first planted by the 3rd Marquis of Lansdowne in 1854. The present Lord Lansdowne’s great grandfather substantially expanded the garden on his return from being Viceroy in India. Most of the species originate from the Himalayas. Successive generations have continued to add to the collection."
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More....
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Finally....
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Great garden, Ralph- a pleasure to see round in your company.
P.S. Thanks for the stamps, much appreciated!
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Why is the lovely Angie near Aberdeen not posting a picture - or several - of 'Elizabeth Lockhart?' When I saw this fantastic thing in her garden I would happily have lain down and died, if it were not for the others I would have squashed. Such a glowing and glorious red, jewel or stained glass-like and not like any other red I've seen. I brought a plant home in 1981 but it was not mine, but one of a group I was carrying for a friend who was staying on a bit longer in the UK. That friend now lives in Australia, the hotter part and I've no idea where the gorgeous Elizabeth is, or if she is still in this world. I have pics myself, from Angie's garden but they don't do the rhodo justice. I'll see what I can do though because it is an amazing plant. I don't think it has ever been offered in New Zealand.
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Two weeks ago I visited Kildrummy Castle Garden on a bus trip with the Friends of Cruickshank Garden.
It was a bright sunny day so some pictures didn't come out too well. There were some lovely rhododendrons.
This red one was a real showstopper. . The colour is a deeper red than shown.
Rhododendron 'Hummingbird' Thanks John W. (and Ken Cox) for ID
Rhododendron concatenens
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There were no labels to be seen and my Rhododendron knowledge is limited.
? Rhododendron orbiculare
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3 more from my garden, Rh decorum (with a red flowered relative of 'Elizabeth Hobbie' in the foreground), decorum has a very pleasant scent noticeable at a distance, Lem's Monarch with huge flowers and Rh yakushimanum.
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Yes Maggi what is that glorious Kildrummy red that Roma posted? My what a show they are putting on! The leaves do not look like any of the Hobbies to me.
Roma - The concatenans looks more like Trewithen Orange to me eyes. The ?orbiculare might have williamsianum blood in it????
As usual Jens your plants and hybrids in particular are stunning, that hybrid must be one of the very few lanatum hybrids in existence. Yes? A clean pink it is. That Goldsprenkel x nikko is wonderful, love the green markings.
johnw - a day of torrential rains here, first tropical storm of the season.
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With the unbelievable arrival of sunny weather, we have been trying to catch up with the rhododendron flowering and visited Benmore last Sunday - brilliant !, Logan on Wednesday, the Maddenii and Crassums almost there with about 4 weeks away for the Dalhousii flowering.
Dawyck had the plantings of Slieve Donard mecanopsis in full bloom along with the native bluebells - an unusual sight.
I was talking to Richard Baines, the curator at Logan, about Rh. Roylmad. This is a hybrid between maddenii x cinnabarinum roylei which has managed to take the perfume across to hybrid. I believe it is a cross made at Logan in 1921 -according to the label and I don't think it exists outside the garden. I have been pestering him to propagate further specimens to ensure its survival and I believe this is being done - not for my benefit.
I mentioned to him that Benmore had a similar cross named Sirius which he had never heard of. So after dredging through my over large and largely uncatalogued picture collection I managed to find Sirius. This is a cross between crassum and royleii and also scented
I hunted for this on the web and although described, there are no pictures I could find of this plant. Maybe I have the only copies of it.
Any way, for the few who might be interested, here are the pictures.
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Two Rhodos in flower today: 'Arctic Tern', which clearly shows its R. groenlandicum parentage, and R. camtschaticum.
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Yes Maggi what is that glorious Kildrummy red that Roma posted? My what a show they are putting on! The leaves do not look like any of the Hobbies to me
Oh, I was keeping quiet in the hope you would have an answer ! It doesn't look like any of the Hobbies really - the red isn't dark enough and the foliage too rounded.... so, Pass!
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Oh, I was keeping quiet in the hope you would have an answer ! It doesn't look like any of the Hobbies really - the red isn't dark enough and the foliage too rounded.... so, Pass!
Mystery solved, Ken Cox came to the rescue as quick as lightening. The Kildrummy reds are 'Hummingbird'.
johnw
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Thanks for the name of the red Rhodo, John. It helps to have a hotline to the expert ;D I remembered Hummingbird as having pink flowers and in the only rhododendron book I have (Peter Cox's Dwarf Rhododendrons, 1974 edition) he says it has pink to medium red flowers.
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Roma - When I get a chance I will email ken back and see if there are other possibilities. Close up how red was it?
johnw
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Flowering now - R. yakushimanum 'Golden Torch' and R. 'Butterscotch'
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Hi!
Some from My Garden:
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Best Regards! zvone
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A late bloomer, Rhododendron occidentale SM25.
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Rhodendron Picotee. I bought this because it was supposed to be scented. NO IT IS NOT ! Very annoying
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Most of my azaleas flowered very well this year
No names but the double yellow may be 'narcissiflora'
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Can anyone name this one? It is flowering now, later than the others which are nearly over. The flowers are small but they are scented.
Another of the larger flowered azaleas
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Can anyone name this one? It is flowering now, later than the others which are nearly over. The flowers are small but they are scented.
Another of the larger flowered azaleas
Roma - Are the flowers sticky? Might very well be pure viscosum but these late fragrant whites are difficult to i.d., they hybridize so readily, especially with arborescens and vice-versa and the flowering of both can over-lap. Best to get seed from an area where on one species is native.
john
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Thanks, John. The flowers are sticky. I've no idea where it originated. I propagated a number of deciduous azaleas from cuttings at the Cruickshank Botanic Garden many years ago when the bed they were growing (for a very long time) in was redone. I took home some which were surplus. The only label I remember seeing was 'Freya' a pink double. Some were old small flowered hybrids including 3 or 4 doubles and others had big flowers.
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Rhododendron viscosum pictured earlier this week in Giardino Botanica Alpinia on Lake Maggiore, Northern Italy. The garden is located some 803 metres up Monte Mottarone between Stresa and Baveno and has enviable views over the Lake Maggiore, Lake Orta and the Swiss Alps more pics, as soon as I get a chance to do some re-sizing, in the Places to Visit thread.
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Roma /David - stems should be smooth and stamens should be greenish white not red for viscosum so looks as if these are hybrids. These American azaleas are a minefield as they are very promiscuous which I'm sure will elicit a comment.
I have 4 plants grown from the same seed lot and only one matches the description perfectly. Apparently there were no other species in the area where the seed was collected so the bees must be finding arborescens somewhere in the state in which it was collected.
john
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Visited Logan Gardens today to catch up with the late flowering Rhods. Maddenii and Crassums in flower - some almost over and oters still with buds to open. These two caught my eye in the nursery beds. When large enough, they will be moved, The Maddenii had a red flush unlike any other in the garden. The Dalhousiae rhabdotum always looks interesting with the red stripes on the petals
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I went on boringly about Rh. 'Elizabeth Lockhart' and have at last found my pics of the lady, taken in Angie's Banchory garden. I've searched for this beauty in NZ but it doesn't seem to be here at all yet I know a plant was brought back from the UK in 1981. I brought it myself but it was for a friend and she not long after divorced, moved to Australia and goodness knows what happened to the rhodo. :'(
Anyway, here she is and another which neither Angie, nor Maggi could name off hand. I certainly couldn't. Any suggestions?
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Anyway, here she is and another which neither Angie, nor Maggi could name off hand. I certainly couldn't. Any suggestions?
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I think the unknown is probably Rhododendron GRAZIELA.
I have one that looks the same and I suspect Angie will have purchased it from Glendoick as I did.
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Yes, that is Graziela - we saw it in Vojtech Holubec's garden too- just had a mind block - must have been the heat in Czechia :)
It is a a very smart rhodo, big flowers and good foliage.
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Another one for me to look for here. The foliage is somewhat unexpected with those buds. 8)
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Hi!
Look beautiful Rock Rhododendron Garden from Mount Koralpe:
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MORE PICTURES: https://picasaweb.google.com/111021317308786555031/AKoralpeJunij2013Mz#
Best Regards! zvone
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Hi zvone, your pictures are always marvellous!
Here is a N America species flowering in my garden now - not showy but I like it: Rh albiflorum.
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Hi zvone, your pictures are always marvellous!
Here is a N America species flowering in my garden now - not showy but I like it: Rh albiflorum.
Thank's Hoy!
Beautiful Flover, beautiful photo! Also I would enjoy next to such flower.
Also your pictures, that are sending them, they are beautiful. I am looking at them happily. Thank's!
Still forward successfully!
Best Regards! zvone
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David - re: that "viscosum" at Giardino Botanica Alpinia
Don Hyatt, the expert in these matters, is just back from the Appalchians and says this:
"Sure doesn't look like R. viscosum to me. Could have viscosum in the background, but it looks more like a hybrid. With that pink color and strong blotch, it could be a viscosum-prunifolium hybrid if it flowers late in the season. Both of those species often grow in the same general area and can bloom about the same time, depending upon the R. viscosum form. The bees do get around. Did they give the time of bloom? With that glaucous foliage, I'd also be suspicious of R. atlanticum possibly being in the mix. We have seen forms of arborescens with glaucous leaves, too.
It is hard to find isolated stands of species in the wild so that we can be sure there is no cross pollination. People often assume that seed collected in the wild will be true to type and that may not be so. Recently we have been trying to hand pollinate selected forms in the wild and go back in the fall to collect seed. That way we can be sure of the purity.
In the areas we usually go, we don't really see any big stands of viscosum, just occasional plants among the others. When we were in Scotland, I pointed out to Davidian that the plants they had in the Edinburgh Botanical Garden labeled as R. canescens were really hybrids between R. periclymenoides and R. prinophyllum. They may key out to canescens with long floral tubes and glandular hairs, but the cinnamon spice fragrance was a dead give away for prinophyllum. We see a lot of those in the wild where those populations intersect. Herbarium specimens seem to lose their fragrance over time. ;-)"
john
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Aside from the late evergreen azaleas this Vireya - St. Valentine - braves this afternoon's hideous humidity. Got this plant in 1986 so it is truly dwarf. johnw ----------- 27.6c, 67% humidity, feels like 36c. Severe thunderstorm, wind & large hail watch in effect for this afternoon and evening.
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Why is my Rhododendron 'Curlew' flowering in August?!!
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'Curlew' is one of those rhodos which makes a second flowering in summer more often than not in my garden.
Very obliging of them and not something which seems to have much correlation to what the weather was earlier in the year. We do not find that these "extra bonus" flowers come at the expense of new flowers in spring. A real "win-win" situation for us!
We had an extra flowering on some in June but the ones which usually give us a summer bonus haven't started yet - any time soon I hope!
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re: Curlew
A persistent drought followed by rain will spark many lepidotes to flower. As Maggi says oftentimes the explanation is impossible. In 2011 we had a very wet summer, some of the high altitude lepidotes like impeditum & fastigiatum etc. flowered in May, again in late June and again in October. What is amazing is that they set buds again and flowered the next spring. My best guess is our growing season is too long, these guys probably emerge from the snow in June and are buried again in late September in a normal year. Friends have seen autumn flowering in China, so where does that leaves us?
johnw
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I have three in bloom now for which I'd like names please. They're all very good and in the case of the third, huge, both in bloom and in bush, about 2.5m high! As in eveyy case in this garden - there are no labels. There is also fragrantissimum but a light frost yesterday did for that, and quite a nice yellow which I'll ask about when more flowers are out. Thanks. The third one has fine, darker stripes in the flowers. First thought - VIRUS - but surely not? They're very pretty, candy cane-like.
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I have three in bloom now for which I'd like names please. They're all very good and in the case of the third, huge, both in bloom and in bush, about 2.5m high! As in eveyy case in this garden - there are no labels. There is also fragrantissimum but a light frost yesterday did for that, and quite a nice yellow which I'll ask about when more flowers are out. Thanks. The third one has fine, darker stripes in the flowers. First thought - VIRUS - but surely not? They're very pretty, candy cane-like.
Nice to see these at this time of year Lesley
The first maybe is called "Unique" as to the others they look like hybrids but can't help with these perhaps the second one is Cynthia?
Just looked at the foliage perhaps not
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I have three in bloom now for which I'd like names please. They're all very good and in the case of the third, huge, both in bloom and in bush, about 2.5m high! As in eveyy case in this garden - there are no labels. There is also fragrantissimum but a light frost yesterday did for that, and quite a nice yellow which I'll ask about when more flowers are out. Thanks. The third one has fine, darker stripes in the flowers. First thought - VIRUS - but surely not? They're very pretty, candy cane-like.
Lesley,
The yellow one looks like a 'Creamy Chiffon' which I have.
Graham
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I'd support Ian's comment. Definitely Unique. A lovely rhodo!
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I too thought Unique the moment I saw the first picture Lesley. Ian, the foliage is not quite right is it? That foliage is excellent.
Not Creamy Chiffon as it is doubly, semi or full I can't remember & ho-hum foliage..
johnw
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The third one has fine, darker stripes in the flowers. First thought - VIRUS - but surely not? They're very pretty, candy cane-like.
I was thinking it's good you didn't post that one under Crocus................
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Maggi, I was in a garden today you would love to go see. I was in David and Janet Ledsham's garden and saw loads of Rhododendrons from the smallest to to what will be giants in time. I'll post photos later
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I can well believe that, Mark - I remember the pix we've seen from their garden in the past, for instance :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4421.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4421.0)
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Lesley
I shot your pix off to the boss - Harold Greer and he confirms:
1 is 'Unique'
2 is 'Unkown Warrior', pinker than usual
3 he thinks is Douglas Stephens - " It is close to ‘Douglas Stephens’, but while ‘Douglas Stephens’ does have a two toned appearance, it starts darker and gets lighter, I have never seen so much of a candy stripe appearance on the petals. Sometimes climate and location can make a difference. I think ‘Douglas Stephens’ is probably in New Zealand as I probably sent it down there years ago when rhododendrons could be sent there. See the attached picture of the mystery plant with a picture of ‘Douglas Stephens’."
Compare:
johnw
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Thanks everyone. 'Unique' is very well known here, almost in every rhodo collection and it didn't occur to me because we usually have it as a slightly creamier colour. This one has matured almost clean white. The third which may be 'Douglas Stephens,' is maturing a soft, candyfloss pink so I'll add that name a little tentatively. But I guess you can't get a better source for names than Harold Greer!
Next year we are having a big International Rhododendron Conference in Dunedin and there should be dozens who'd be able to name anything but they won't be coming anywhere near my garden.
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Well, Lesley, rhodo conferences usually incorporate a show, so
the organizers could designate a table for "unknowns: please id"
and you can take a truss along to be identified.
Diane
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Lesley, I have observed R. Unique presenting very differently in different parts of Australia. All beautiful, but flower colour, leaf colour & habit can be quite different. Apparently just responding to climate.
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Well, Lesley, rhodo conferences usually incorporate a show, so
the organizers could designate a table for "unknowns: please id"
and you can take a truss along to be identified.
Diane
That's a good idea Diane. I know a few of the people involved in the organizing so I'll suggest it. One is Forumist Susan More. Unfortunately we had a good frost a couple of days ago and the two pinks in my pics above were frosted on the tops of the bushes. Underneath and the not-out blooms seem OK. A few more are opening, including a nice low red. Could be 'Elizabeth Hobbie,' very waxy bells. My own (brought with me) R. hanceanum nanum is flowering in a polystyrene box as it never did in the garden previously. Must get a picture.
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I've been out collecting seeds again, can anyone help me identify these?
Tianchi Lake, Shangri-La, Yunnan - Rh. rupicola ssp. rupicola, I presume?
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Pianma pass, Liuku, Nujiang, Yunnan, around 3000m altitude:
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...and two from Cangshan, Dali, Yunnan, around 3300-3400m altitude.
Probably the same species? I should have looked more closely at my own pictures, not the same species!
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Rhododendron radians today.
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Are you going to try to be a humming bird to pollinate that cute Vireya, Ralph?
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Pictures from Dali
13 - 106 rh. racemosum
birck
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Are you going to try to be a humming bird to pollinate that cute Vireya, Ralph?
Sadly, I think my tongue is not long enough...
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Pictures from Dali
13 - 106 rh. racemosum
birck
Where's the picture?
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Where's the picture?
Post 661 - first picture.
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Diane - We see cactorum here on plants in very dry spots due to greedy tree roots. Then when a really wet stretch comes those damaged feeder roots set off the process. Some of the small-leafed lepidotes can be especially susceptible yet those growing out of the cracks of rocks tolerate that just fine. Basically cactorum here is caused by an unsuitable site, once - if dealt with promptly - corrected all's fine. Not so w. cinnamoni.
Glynn - Hopefully you can salvage this but November would be too late here to take drastic action.
johnw - +13c
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Rhododendron radians is proving to be very floriferous, and with an exotic scent.
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Rhododendron christi Sandham 6186 in the polytunnel today.
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Are you going to try to be a humming bird to pollinate that cute Vireya, Ralph?
You could use a little piece of a furry plant such as a whipcord Helichrysum, tied to a very fine wire of the right length, inserted gently, fed in and wiggled about. It's how a local alpine nursery lady does long necked flowers, successfully. Rather in the manner of a colonoscopy or an angiogram. (Such things have been on my mind lately. :o :-[)
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What a clever trick for an aid to pollination, but - Lesley, if anyone, even with a badge saying "doctor" comes anywhere near you with a helichrysum on a wire - RUN FOR THE HILLS!!
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Maggi I'm not sure whether the "doctor" or whether Roger and I should run for the hills. I'm at a loss to think of anything else that can go wrong at present! One good thing, none of our assorted health problems has been infectious or contagious so no one else has been harmed in the making of our situation. And another even better thing - we have a gardener!!! Because we are now in our dotage and with ongoing health issues to boot, we are able to get financial help to employ a gardener, for 6 hours a week. It will make a tremendous difference especially as Roger can't do lawns now and the heavier stuff. We've found a suitable contender and she starts next Tuesday. ;D
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At last some better news for your situation, Lesley- the arrival of some garden help will make a huge difference to you. I'm so pleased to hear you've been able to get this assistance.
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I would like to grow some small R. vireya in my unheated green house. Am I asking too much?
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I've been out collecting seeds again, can anyone help me identify these?
Pianma pass, Liuku, Nujiang, Yunnan, around 3000m altitude:
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3 looks a bit like a form of arboreum to me
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I've been out collecting seeds again, can anyone help me identify these?
Tianchi Lake, Shangri-La, Yunnan - Rh. rupicola ssp. rupicola, I presume?
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The first one looks to me like Rhododendron hippophaeoides, though I am not familiar with R. rupicola. If it is R. hippophaeoides, narrow and small leaf blades with many flowered heads, would suggest it is variety occidentale.
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I would like to grow some small R. vireya in my unheated green house. Am I asking too much?
Mark
No problem as long as it does freeze in there. About 2c is about the lowest w/o trouble. Some of the alpine ones are said to take light frosts (i.e -1c with a temp bounce shortly thereafter) but they're so rare and beautiful I wouldn't risk a test.
Go fob the dwarf ones like St. Valentine et al as the others can get awfully rangy even with pruning. At one time I had about 25 or 30 of them until I couldn't no longer move in the ghouse. I gave them all away except for St. V, its sister, 2 saxifagoides hybrids (v v dwarf) and christinae x jasminiflorum (intermediate).
Extremely open mix with coir chunks and pumice in clay pots, underpot and never but never water when moist.
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Can't see any indumentum which should be clearly visinble for arboreum.
Leaf not correct for hippophaeoides, habit should be more upright and flowers too small, see attached. Also have a white one here - - Glendoick Ice???.
johnw