We hope you have enjoyed the SRGC Forum. You can make a Paypal donation to the SRGC by clicking the above button

Author Topic: Crocus to identify? Post them here....  (Read 230070 times)

Tiggrx

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 81
  • Country: gb
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #930 on: October 29, 2016, 01:06:48 PM »
C. medius maybe?

My suggestion would be more Crocus serotinus.
Maybe C. serotinus salzmannii 'Erectophyllus'.
Nice dark form.

Thank you both for the suggestions. I had wondered whether it might be C. medius but I think C. serotinus (and probably subsp. salzmannii) seems to be a better match.

ChrisB

  • SRGC Subscription Secretary
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2370
  • Country: gb
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #931 on: October 29, 2016, 05:15:21 PM »
I bought this crocus a year ago. The label says Crocus ?medius. Can you tell from this pic whether it is. Should open more in a day or so and I will take more pics then.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2016, 05:33:23 PM by Maggi Young »
Chris Boulby
Northumberland, England

ChrisB

  • SRGC Subscription Secretary
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2370
  • Country: gb
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #932 on: October 29, 2016, 05:19:59 PM »
And a lovely clump of this Crocus, been blooming at least two weeks now. Lost label but I seem to remember planting Crocus sativus in this spot a few years ago. This is the first year it's really bloomed if so, but has been well worth waiting for.  If you read this Maggi, can you tell me how I can turn the pics right way up?

 edit by maggi: I've rotated the pix for you Christine - it's something to do with how the pix are loaded from the camera/device in the first place I think - seems I am able to turn most of them more easily than  the ipad etc.
« Last Edit: October 29, 2016, 05:35:22 PM by Maggi Young »
Chris Boulby
Northumberland, England

ChrisB

  • SRGC Subscription Secretary
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2370
  • Country: gb
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #933 on: October 30, 2016, 10:15:02 AM »
The C. medius? Opened more this am
« Last Edit: October 30, 2016, 01:12:26 PM by Maggi Young »
Chris Boulby
Northumberland, England

Armin

  • Prized above rubies
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2531
  • Country: de
  • Confessing Croconut
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #934 on: October 31, 2016, 08:50:08 AM »
Hello Chris,

your C. medius is now called C. ligusticus. :)

From image your nice clump of C. sativus looks more like the very close C. cartwrightianus due shorter stigmas compared to C. sativus.
C. sativus is a sterile clone and does not set seed. So if you get seeds... ;)
« Last Edit: October 31, 2016, 08:55:26 AM by Armin »
Best wishes
Armin

ChrisB

  • SRGC Subscription Secretary
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2370
  • Country: gb
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #935 on: October 31, 2016, 10:32:41 AM »
Thanks Armin, I will rename the one and watch to see if I get seed on the other.  However the latter is in full bloom right now and I thought that species was spring flowering?
Chris Boulby
Northumberland, England

Armin

  • Prized above rubies
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2531
  • Country: de
  • Confessing Croconut
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #936 on: October 31, 2016, 04:18:49 PM »
All members of 'Crocus Sativus Group' ie. sativus, cartwrightianus, oreocreticus, thomasii, hadriaticus, pallasii, moabiticus, mathewii, asumaniae, have their blossom in autuum.
Best wishes
Armin

Cfred72

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 662
  • Country: be
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #937 on: October 31, 2016, 04:36:05 PM »
Hello Chris. With flowers blooming as if it were Crocus sativus, the stigma should pass between the tepals of the flower and hang down. I think Armin is right. So you could get seeds thereof.
Frédéric Catoul, Amay en Hesbaye, partie francophone de la Belgique.

ChrisB

  • SRGC Subscription Secretary
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2370
  • Country: gb
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #938 on: October 31, 2016, 10:05:18 PM »
Thank you all. I will certainly look for the seeds.
Chris Boulby
Northumberland, England

Hoy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3854
  • Country: no
  • Rogaland, Norway - We used to have mild winters!
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #939 on: November 01, 2016, 12:43:56 PM »
Anybody recognize this crocus? (Pyrinees September)

http://www.biologforeningen.org/enbiolog/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=59190
Trond Hoy, gardening on the rainy west coast of Norway.

Armin

  • Prized above rubies
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2531
  • Country: de
  • Confessing Croconut
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #940 on: November 01, 2016, 03:14:46 PM »
Hi Trond,

2 species come into my mind when I look on the picture: C. nudiflorus and C. serotinous ssp. salzmanni.
By image I tend to the former C. nudiflorus.
Best wishes
Armin

Hoy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3854
  • Country: no
  • Rogaland, Norway - We used to have mild winters!
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #941 on: November 01, 2016, 08:24:34 PM »
Hi Armin,

Thank you for your suggestion. For me nudiflorus looks right!

Trond
Trond Hoy, gardening on the rainy west coast of Norway.

YT

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1446
  • Country: jp
    • Twitter
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #942 on: November 15, 2016, 12:24:40 PM »
Can anyone ID this, please?
This crocus came from JJA Seeds as "354.706 CROCUS VITELLINUS". I now think this is Crocus veneris:-\
« Last Edit: November 15, 2016, 12:57:42 PM by YT »
Tatsuo Y
By the Pacific coast, central part of main island, Japan

Janis Ruksans

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3944
  • Country: lv
    • Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #943 on: November 30, 2016, 02:46:38 PM »
Can anyone ID this, please?
This crocus came from JJA Seeds as "354.706 CROCUS VITELLINUS". I now think this is Crocus veneris:-\

I suppose not veneris. More resemble aleppicus. Can easy to be misidentified with vitellinus if seeds are collected wild (as Jim's seeds mostly were),  because areas of both overlap. C. veneris has 3-4 leaves, aleppicus 5-9. Corm tunics are slightly different, too. veneris - has parallel fibres throughout, aleppicus - slightly reticulated at the apex. I can't check this on attached picture. Veneris come from Cyprus, so I don't think that Jim could mix them.
Rare Bulb Nursery - Latvia
http://rarebulbs.lv

YT

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1446
  • Country: jp
    • Twitter
Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #944 on: December 01, 2016, 04:11:46 PM »
I suppose not veneris. More resemble aleppicus. Can easy to be misidentified with vitellinus if seeds are collected wild (as Jim's seeds mostly were),  because areas of both overlap. C. veneris has 3-4 leaves, aleppicus 5-9. Corm tunics are slightly different, too. veneris - has parallel fibres throughout, aleppicus - slightly reticulated at the apex. I can't check this on attached picture. Veneris come from Cyprus, so I don't think that Jim could mix them.
Thank you very much for your ID, Janis :) This must be C. aleppicus.
Tatsuo Y
By the Pacific coast, central part of main island, Japan

 


Scottish Rock Garden Club is a Charity registered with Scottish Charity Regulator (OSCR): SC000942
SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal