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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Paul T on June 17, 2010, 07:30:38 AM
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Howdy All,
I'm sure there should be somewhere else that these would fit, but you think I can find it? If the moderators feel it would fit better elsewhere then please just blend it into that topic. 8)
These are a few of my Massonia that flowered for me this autumn...
Massonia pustulata, showing pics of when it first emerged and when it was in flower. This is the first time I have had a mature one of these, traded with a friend last year. I just adore the leaves.
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Massonia depressa is one I have had for a number of years now, flowering each and every year successfully.
These Massonia jasminiflora I have shown before, in fact a few of you have seedlings from them (or seed promised.... I still have the list of those I promised it to last year ;D). There is seed setting on it again this year by the look of it, on the ones I hand pollinated.
And lastly for now Polyxena pymaea, which I think is now Massonia pygmaea if memory serves me correctly. A little cutie. 8)
I hope everyone enjoys the pics.
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Really interesting plants with nice flowers! :D
Doesn't the genus Massonia belong to Hyacinthaceae not Amaryllidaceae?
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Massonia pustulata, showing pics of when it first emerged and when it was in flower. This is the first time I have had a mature one of these, traded with a friend last year. I just adore the leaves.
I agree with you about the leaves Paul, amazing things aren't they?
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Really interesting plants with nice flowers! :D
Doesn't the genus Massonia belong to Hyacinthaceae not Amaryllidaceae?
Oops, so it does.... Paul all uded to that in his post.... will move it now to Bulbs General.
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Thanks Thomas and Maggi..... I had a feeling they weren't Amaryllids, but wasn't sure. They always remind me of Haemanthus, even though they look nothing like them. ::)
Thanks for the correction.
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Hi Paul,
You mentioned seed on the Masonia you pollinated by hand. There has been some research done on Massonias (M. depressa specifically, but I would guess the others are similar) regarding its reproduction methods. They have shown that in the wild they have no mechanism for self-pollination. If you artificially self-pollinate them, they set some seed but usually not many and these seeds are small. When cross-pollinated they produce lots more seed and these seeds are much larger and heavier than those produced by self-pollination. So cross-pollination is the usual and best method for getting seed on Massonias
Cheers
Paul
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Paul, your Massonia jasminiflora is a stunner... WOW. Are the flowers scented?
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Paul,
I've only been successful cross pollinating between the M. jasminiflora, never self pollinating them. My understanding is that they tend to be self infertile, as you say.
McMark,
I don't know whether they're perfumed.... I haven't checked. The flowers have actually now finished, so I can't tell. The pot in the pic is 7 inches across, so they aren't huge, but the flowerheads themselves are very picturesque. ;D You definitely can't miss them. Although they basically appear white in the pics, there are a couple of different shades of palest pink in some of the flowerheads as well. Only 4 of the 4 flowered this year and I again didn't note which was which, but I have had 2 white, one palest mauve and one palest pink in the past. But they are very pale. I just love em. 8) 8)
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I was gifted this bulb by Drren Sleep (a fellow forumist and renowned grower of S African bulbs). It was labelled Massonia sp. (Burdoch 1182 - Addo Elephant Park). Any assistance with identification would be most welcome. It is the first Massonia that I've flowered...plenty of bulblets and seedlings but first at proper bulb size.
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Here are two pics from my Massonia bifolia ( earlier Whiteheadia bifolia ) from today - this change was made by Manning, Goldblatt & Fay (2004).
This flower is maybe not a beauty ...but in any way it is interesting !
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What a sculptural form... very pleasing shapes.
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I bought just this one on ebay USA
hope it arrives
and is not stopped at the customs
like my gladiolus from America
Roland
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That form is quite remarkable Roland - hope it arrives safely.
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Frazer aren't we lucky. I have the same Massonia from Darren.
I never thought that I would have a flowering Massonia in my greenhouse ;D ;D But thanks to Darren I have Massonia sp. in flower.
I just love it, I must have looked at in ten times or more.
I have some more Massonia that will open soon. 8)
Angie :)
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Roland, the red depressa is very impressive! I hope it arrives well! Maybe you will have some seeds to swap? ;D
Some of my Massonias are coming into flower now. And I know, it is no Massonia, but it is so nice! Daubenya zeyheri
with best greetings from Austria
massonia
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The Daubenya zeyheri is magic
of course I love to swap with this one
but first it has to arrive without paying 452€
see: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6218.0 :o
but maybe I also get some seeds
and we can swap with some seeds from your Daubenya zeyheri
what is the minimum temperature from the Daubenya zeyheri
Roland
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Frazer aren't we lucky. I have the same Massonia from Darren.
I never thought that I would have a flowering Massonia in my greenhouse ;D ;D But thanks to Darren I have Massonia sp. in flower.
I just love it, I must have looked at in ten times or more.
I have some more Massonia that will open soon. 8)
Angie :)
Great pictures - it's a super plant. I'm awaiting others to open shortly. It looks like the start of a collection.
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I grow Daubenya together with Massonia, just a few degrees above 0°C during cold nights. I hope you will finally get your depressa without paying so much!
Here another view of the Daubenya...
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Paying that much really WOULD be depressing. :o
Excellent pics, everyone. 8)
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I posted pictures of my Massonia on the 10th November and I cant believe how long its lasting. Here are pictures of it today, sorry to be a bit of a show off but I am so happy to have it.
Angie :) :)
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Very well grown too Angie.
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Thanks David I am so pleased. I think my husband is getting fed up with me going on about it ;D
I so admired the Massonia pictures on the forum and to have one of my own and flowering is great and it's all thanks to a generous forum member ;D
Angie :)
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Angie,
They are really easy to grow from seed as well. 8)
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They are really easy to grow from seed as well. 8)
I'm hoping so if I get my quota 8)
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Brian,
They're like Lachenalias in that their seed lasts dry for ages, and I find they germinate easily for me. I've sent seed of M. jasminiflora to people that was certainly more than 18 months old and I know that has germinated freely for others too. All good. 8)
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Angie,
They are really easy to grow from seed as well. 8)
Easy from seed . I do hope so. Don't tell anyone but I really like this little Massonia so much I was thinking of moving it into my house once it dies back just that l can watch that the bulb dosen't rot or shrivel away.
I would hate to lose it. Other people would think I am mad but My forum friends hopefully won't. ::)
Angie :)
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I am in the mood
Massonia depressa Special dwarf form red flowers
arrived today from America
with the normal post
and no problems at all
Roland
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A dwarf red! :o :o Congratulations.
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Roland
Looking forward to see it in flower 8)
Angie :).
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Good news Roland.
Nice to see that Massonia looking so well Angie!
Like Paul, I find they grow easily from seed though as I've mentioned elsewhere I now have concerns about them interbreeding now I have a varied collection with overlappng flowering times. Therefore apologies in advance to anyone getting the seed I donated to the SRGC exchange this year and finding hybrids... At least they might be interesting. I've taken steps to further isolate plants in flower this year.
Again, like Paul, I find the seed keeps really well at room temperature. In fact I have sometimes had better germination in the second year after collection and I hypothesize that the seed perhaps needs a warmish post-harvest ripening period. In a cool NW UK summer maybe this is not achieved sometimes and they need to wait an extra year? This is also the case with some Romulea and with Hesperantha vaginata. Never store cape bulb seed in the fridge!
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Thanks Darren
Glad you said never store cape seeds in the fridge, that's where I put all my seeds, so you have saved them.
Ok everyone don't laugh. When do I remove the seeds :-X I left my seeds on my Haemanthus thinking they would fall off but no they just shrivelled a little.
It's snowing here and really cold but I was out in my cosy greenhouse admiring my Massonia today.
Others are just starting to open 8)
Thanks
Angie :)
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Collect those Haemanthus seeds as soon as the berries fall off easily when touched. Seeds of Haemanthus albiflos turn bright red orange when ripe. Clean off the skin and soft fleshy pulp, then plant on the surface of your potting mix.
In the same greenhouse with the Haemanthus, Massonia depressa/echinata (I'm not sure which) are in bloom. These are from seeds that came labeled Androcymbium pulchrum, if that helps.
Outdoors, it is snowing, and we have a thin covering of snow on the ground as well. Winter has come to Indiana.
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Thanks Jim there is only a few round green seeds on the flower head. I shall watch closely this time.
Angie :)
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Some more Massonia sp flowering today in the greenhouse, they have done well considering they have hardly seen any sun in the last week.
Angie :)
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Thanks for showing us cool Massonia pics. My tiny Massonia pygmaea fully opened its white florets a week ago and now they are totally blushing. The pot diameter is 7.5 cm.
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Hello Tatsuo
beauty special the pink on
I marked that one as Massonia pygmaea Tatsuo Pink in my computer
if one day you have some spare seeds from this one
I am lining up
Roland
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Hi Tatami
That's a little beauty 8), pretty in white but then to have it change to pink is so nice. When you get a flower that changes it colour like that it's like getting two plants for one. Thanks for sharing your Massonia with us.
Angie :)
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Roland, OK, I'll tell you if I get the seeds ;) but the point is I only have this single plant and Massonia is self-incompatibility as Paul C mentioned in this thread :( I didn't know that when I got it :o
Angie, yes indeed, this plant is a new comer and changing flower colour is a happy surprise for me ;D