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Title: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Catwheazle on October 24, 2022, 10:57:41 AM
Hello, will there be a seed exchange in 2022/2023?
Will the procedure for the EU be like last year?
Greetings
Bernd
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ashley on October 24, 2022, 02:58:37 PM
Yes I think so Bernd (see here (https://www.srgc.net/add-seed-donations.asp)).
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Catwheazle on October 24, 2022, 03:11:04 PM
Many Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Vinny 123 on October 24, 2022, 04:45:11 PM
The information on the link is inaccurate, and possibly incorrect.

Importations of seed into the UK from outside of the EU have been stopped and destroyed (if found) in 2022 if they have had no phyto', as they were in 2021.

I suspect that the intent for 2023 is that the rules will apply to importaions from the EU as of 1st January 2023.

I imported seeds from the EU just a few weeks ago and it was opened and inspected by Customs.
Inspections of imported parcels in general also seem to be far more thorough/regular/predictable than a year or so ago - presumably Customs have employed more people to try to cope.
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Carolyn on October 24, 2022, 06:19:15 PM
Sorry, Vinny, this is just not true. For example, it was thought a few months ago that seeds from N America would need a photo to enter the UK, but this is not the case this year.
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Vinny 123 on October 24, 2022, 07:01:49 PM
Sorry - this is absolutely true - I have had seeds confiscated and received letters from DEFRA stating so. I have spoken to someone who had seeds confiscated in 2021.

Not everything is always found - I have had a number of shipments get through, but not recently.
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Mariette on October 24, 2022, 07:03:21 PM
Do donations from EU require a declaration for the customs? (Déclaration en Douane)
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Vinny 123 on October 24, 2022, 07:04:42 PM
In the UK, ALL international parcels require a declaration as to what the parcel contains and a value. Probably the same for the EU.

Letters seem to be ignored.
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Kathy1987 on October 24, 2022, 08:06:45 PM
My parcel from Germany got through. I’ve put a customs declaration on it, so it wouldn’t have been difficult to find for customs…

Have a nice evening all
Kathy
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ashley on October 24, 2022, 08:08:23 PM
Today I posted seed to the exchange, with a customs declaration specifying 'garden seed'/no commercial value.
Bernd's original question related to seed from the EU & this seems to be no problem, for now at least.
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Vinny 123 on October 24, 2022, 08:41:32 PM
There are currently no requirements for phyto's within EU/UK. The requirement was originally scheduled for introduction something like 2 years ago, but it has been put off.

The requirement for phyto's for seed and plants from the EU, into the UK (and presumably vice versa), is currently scheduled for 2023 - probably January, but it could be postponed again...................

NOTE - nothing in this world has zero value for customs purposes. Literally. If UK Customs find something with a declared zero value or what they believe to be a ficticiously low value, they can allocate a value and charge the recipient accordingly.
There are no allowances for import anymore - that disappeared over a year ago. In theory, almost all imports are liable for VAT plus duty, ON THE WHOLE VALUE OF THE SHIPMENT, including the shipping/postage costs, and if caught for these, there will be an admin' charge of around £10-12 added.

Why my seeds from D were inspected 2-3 weeks ago, I have no idea.

Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ashley on October 24, 2022, 08:55:05 PM
My donation has zero commercial value.  Obviously not no value, to exchange recipients I hope ;)
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Vinny 123 on October 24, 2022, 08:57:53 PM
My donation has zero commercial value.  Obviously not no value, to exchange recipients I hope ;)

Absolutely - commercial outfits sending samples etc. abroad will make a double declaration - no commercial value, supplied FOC, and an actual value.

My PO will not accept a zero valuation, but I have no idea how universal that is as I always use the same PO and never any other courier.

It does not alter the fact that a zero value item being imported from outside the EU, if caught by customs, will still attract charges based on their valuation.
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Jeffnz on October 25, 2022, 07:19:54 AM
I am aware of issues presented by the US postal service when it comes to sending seed from the US to an overseas recipient. A recent seed posting was sent to me with no US postal declaration as the point of sending,  thankfully arrived here with no delays.
The only way maybe to place a low value on the seed at the US post office.
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Mariette on October 25, 2022, 09:11:41 PM
Thank You all for Your answers! Today I sent a padded envelope with customs declaration like recommended by Ashley,  and just hope, it will reach its destination in time. Last year I swapped seeds with some forumists in GB, and with or without declaration they arrived sooner or later - later meaning up to 3 weeks later. The German customs seemed to be even more of a problem than the British.
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Vinny 123 on October 25, 2022, 09:44:57 PM
If imports into D from outside of the EU/UK are discovered, there is an additional charge for import inspection...............

At least we do not have that for the UK.

Until at least 31st December 2022, there is no problem receiving seeds from any EU country, in the UK.
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Mariette on October 28, 2022, 09:32:48 PM
Good news today: my letter arrived after just 3 days of travelling! Many thanks to Ian and Carole Bainbridge coping with such an amount of work!
Title: Re: exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Eric44 on October 30, 2022, 06:32:09 PM
Do donations from EU require a declaration for the customs? (Déclaration en Douane)
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Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: wooden shoe on November 27, 2022, 08:53:24 PM
I read from the Seed Exchange - Seed Ordening page this:
Members with ..seed delivery addresses in the EU and Northern Ireland.. may make Main orders ONLY, but NOT any Surplus orders.
So still no surplus orders for anyone outside GB? I had read before that ordering for the EU was as usual, but I am afraid that is still not the case..
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on November 27, 2022, 10:30:14 PM
Hello Rob,

Our instructions on the website are clear - I hope.

Yes, we allow Surplus orders for countries which do NOT require phyto certificates. All the EU countries plus Australia and Japan require phytos, so NO Surplus orders.  Members in other countries in the world CAN order Surplus seed, because NO phyto certificates are required by their countries for incoming seed.

Currently one phyto certificate for one order costs a large amount of money, and we think that you will not be prepared to pay this amount.  Many members wish to order large numbers of packets of surplus seed.  The administration, and the cost involved in obtaining many separate phyto certificates mean that, sadly, we cannot arrange this.

I hope this explains our problems.

Richard, (SRGC Seed Team)
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Catwheazle on November 28, 2022, 07:49:08 AM
Is the seedlist 22/23 online?
Where can i find it?
Greetings Bernd
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: wooden shoe on November 28, 2022, 08:08:16 AM
Yes indeed Richard, the instructions stand there clear, I must have missed it, probably wishful thinking...
Well I will enjoy the main seeds. Thank you and the team for taking up the hassle of the phyto-certificates for at least the main orders.
It is a pity that it takes ages, if ever, to get a border agreement between EU and UK.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Carolyn on November 28, 2022, 09:08:23 AM
Is the seedlist 22/23 online?
Where can i find it?
Greetings Bernd

You will need to log in to the website as a member, then click on seed exchange along the top menu bar. As a member, you will see seedlist on the drop down menu. This will allow you to look at the list just now, before ordering opens later this week.
Enjoy!
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Catwheazle on November 28, 2022, 03:07:04 PM
Thanks! Found it :-)

Bernd
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ian mcdonald on November 29, 2022, 01:21:32 PM
I too have just tried to look at the seed list on line (not yet received the postal version). When I tried to log in I got the message email address wrong. I changed my email address some time ago and informed the srgc. I have now sent an email to the subscriptions secretary to update email address.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on November 29, 2022, 02:36:44 PM
Ian, PM me directly with your correct email address and I will fix your membership record.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Maggi Young on November 29, 2022, 04:14:50 PM
SRGC Seed Distribution online ordering for members opens from one minute after midnight on Thursday morning GMT 1st December  2022.

All details  https://www.srgc.net/welcome_seed_exchange.asp

1 The  SRGC Seed List is available online NOW for downloading and browsing in both Excel and pdf format.
Seed list for the current year
To see the current year's seed list you must be a paid up member, and log in to  https://www.srgc.net/welcome_seed_exchange.asp
You will then find it under Seed Exchange | Seed List on the menu at the top of this page.

2 Donors do NOT have to rush submitting their orders because they get first pick (before non-donors) and in an order which is predetermined by their number and quality of seed donations.

3 Non-Donors orders are dealt with in order of receipt.  Adjustments will be made to the dates of receipt so that those ordering on paper are NOT disadvantaged by any late arrival of seed lists – by postal strikes or other reasons.

Paper lists should arrive in a week or so  - when these lists will start dropping on doormats is an open question given postal strikes.

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Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on November 30, 2022, 05:51:46 AM
it's beautiful, all those seed packets! it's exciting to project yourself with the chosen seeds... :P
the list is very pleasant to study, for me a bit like a list to Father Christmas!

it's frustrating that we can't order the surplus seeds; there are more than 25 species that interest us and it's hard to choose, but that's how it is.

I will also have to compile the difficult species with things that are easier to germinate,  :oto avoid discouraging myself.

 In any case, many thanks to you for this well organised exchange  :D

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Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ashley on December 01, 2022, 11:18:23 AM
it's beautiful, all those seed packets!  ...

Yes, what a wonderful sight 8)
Well done to all who make the exchange possible, and thanks too for facilitating EU members.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on December 05, 2022, 11:49:28 AM
Sorry, the main SRGC website at srgc.net is temporarily "down" this morning and not available for anything including seed ordering.  Our webhosting people tell us that this is a temporary problem at the data centre, and it should not be long before it is back up and running.  This Forum is still OK as it runs on srgc.org.uk.
 
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: CRSHEP0 on December 05, 2022, 06:01:10 PM
I have been trying to order since last Saturday in the USA.  It will not connect.  I put order in on that day, but it would not allow me to pay.
It kept shifting me to the surpus order, where I originally put in one seed, and recognized that was wrong, which I finally erased.
This must be frustrating for all the many volunteers for the web site.  Thank you for the post for keeping people informed. Cecile Shepard
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on December 05, 2022, 10:09:15 PM
This is very frustrating for the volunteers who are looking after the Seed operation.  It seems to be taking longer than expected to fix.  Please bear with us whilst the webhosting company and data centre sort out the problem.  It looks like it may be tomorrow before this is mended.

Cecile, I think your problem is different.  Please email seed(at)srgc.net to ask for help if you are still having any problems when the website comes back onlne.   Dave Millward is there and should be able to assist you.

Update 6 December from our Webhosting supplier:
Dear Clients,  One of our Host servers was blocked yesterday by the Switch at the Datacenter.  We removed the initial block on the Host server caused by the switch port connected to the server. It had been automatically disabled by the system, as the traffic going through this port had reached Storm Control Limits.
However due to a possibility of blocking the server again, We are now moving VMs to other servers.  We will start all VPS after we move them to new Servers during the day.
Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Kind Regards
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on December 06, 2022, 11:28:05 AM
Our website is back up and running now. Sorry for the delay, which was entirely outwith our control.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on January 04, 2023, 10:34:12 AM

Our Seed Exchange ORDERING CLOSES at midnight (UK time) THIS FRIDAY 6 January 2023.

We CAN send out seed to members living in the EU, Australia and the Rest of the World, despite Brexit and phytosanitary certificate restrictions.

Members only have a short time left to order their seed.  Visit our Main SRGC website at https://www.srgc.net (https://www.srgc.net), then Log in, and choose Seed Exchange, then Order My Seed.


Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on January 05, 2023, 06:58:27 AM
I hope that one day, we Europeans will again have the right to order surplus seeds... is there any hope?
25 species to germinate is not much for me (I have many other desires on this beautiful list!) ::)
and moreover, it allowed me to organize "seedling workshops" in my local SAJA section.
In any case, your exchange site works wonderfully: it's very easy to place an order.
thank :)
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on January 05, 2023, 10:10:56 AM
Veronique,

There is no physical problem at all with sending seeds to European countries.   The big problem is the cost of obtaining a phytosanitary certificate.  The EU require this certificate to allow seed into European countries.  The cost of obtaining this certificate is based on the time spent inspecting the seeds here in the UK, and it is very expensive - far too expensive for our members.

Several UK plant societies have started discussions with the UK Government about designing a Small Lots of Seed scheme (like applies to USA), but of course this will require agreement with Europe.  The UK does not have a strong bargaining position in Europe at the moment, so I think this will not happen for many years, if ever - malheureusement!

Meanwhile, I have 3 ideas to obtain more seed next year.  Become a Family membership (2 main orders of 25 packets), or ask your husband to renew as a member, or talk to SAJA.  The SAJA Library in Paris is a complimentary member of SRGC, and can order seed too.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: MarcR on January 05, 2023, 12:48:31 PM
Veronique,
.....
Several UK plant societies have started discussions with the UK Government about designing a Small Lots of Seed scheme (like applies to USA), but of course this will require agreement with Europe.  The UK does not have a strong bargaining position in Europe at the moment, so I think this will not happen for many years, if ever - malheureusement!   .....


Richard,

I think it could happen quite quickly if UK members and plant societies would pressure the UK government agency involved; and EU members & plant societies pressured the EU government agency involved.
While the EU may not be motivated to cooperate with the UK; they might very well respond to the interests & desires of their own people.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on January 15, 2023, 12:27:29 PM
Seed Picking is proceeding well at Westerton Church Hall.  Last week, we picked seed for both donors and non-donors main orders.  Most UK main orders (both donor and non-donor) were mailed out on Friday or Saturday, and I hear that some have already arrived, although they are going out by second class mail.  We shall start picking surplus orders this coming week, so UK members will receive separate mailing for main and surplus seed.

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Overseas orders require more work before we can mail them out - as follows: 

EU, Australia, and Ireland (both north and south) - these orders will be delayed whilst we obtain phytosanitary certificates.

USA - these orders require Seed Lists and Permit documentation, and will be mailed out later this coming week.  USDA APHIS inspections on arrival in the USA will delay their delivery to members as usual.

New Zealand - these orders require Seed Lists, and will also be mailed out later this coming week.  Inspections on arrival in NZ may delay their delivery to members as usual.

Rest of world - (including Canada, Norway, etc) these orders will be mailed out during this coming week.

PLEASE NOTE that due to last week's cyber attack, UK Royal Mail advise that there are currently NO overseas deliveries being processed.  We shall therefore mail out overseas orders whenever it becomes possible.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Catwheazle on January 15, 2023, 12:30:41 PM
Thx for the Update:-)
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Leena on January 15, 2023, 02:11:21 PM
Richard, thank you for letting us know how things are progressing. And thank you so much all the volunteers picking our seeds! :)
I hope you have fun also in spite of all the work.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Gail on January 15, 2023, 09:48:14 PM
My seed arrived safely yesterday and have been sown today. Many thanks to all involved.  :)
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on January 16, 2023, 08:08:56 AM
Thank you for keeping us informed.
 It's nice to see you working for us, and with a smile too!

if I wasn't so far away I would love to come and participate
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ian mcdonald on January 16, 2023, 03:51:28 PM
Seed arrived today, thanks.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: David2carver on January 16, 2023, 05:45:56 PM
Mine arrived on saturday, thank you all! Not bad for posting down to Devon
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Margaret on January 17, 2023, 05:39:59 PM
My seed arrived today. Many thanks to everyone involved.

Does anyone have tips on germinating Mutisia? I've tried twice and failed. It would be great if this is third time lucky!
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ruweiss on January 18, 2023, 09:35:52 PM
Margaret,
In my experience it is no prpblem to germinate good viable Mutisia seeds. My problem was to
grow the resulting plants on. The only species which grows really vigorous in my conditions is
Mutisia spinosa, it sometimes produces self sown seedlings.
I sow the seeds after arrival together with the other alpines in square plastic pots and place them
together in a well drained box to an uncovered frame in the open garden. It is wise to cover it with
a net to keep cats and scratching birds away. When germination is visible I put them under glas and
give them the usual treatment like the other alpines. Wish you good luck wiith these fine plants.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ruweiss on January 18, 2023, 09:49:32 PM
Mutisia spinosa
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on January 19, 2023, 07:08:34 AM
do they need cold to germinate?

I once had a 40 cm high plant, but it died from the foot in summer, a kind of black necrosis
 so this year I'm lightening the substrate again.
But it could also be because the roots heat up more in the pot than in the ground, right?

 I too have sown them at least 3 times (or 4? or 5?), as for the climbing Aconite and the climbing Dicentra, I don't know how far to be stubborn ;D

I have ordered the proposed species from the srgc again. I hope I will get them, but probably not before March.

Ruweiss, your pictures are great. What a beautiful plant! (especially for me, who is very attracted to climbers.

is Mutisia spinosa more vigorous when self-seeded?
what kind of soil do you have in your garden?

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Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on January 19, 2023, 07:12:32 AM
have you ever tried to take a cutting?
 sometimes a cutting becomes more vigorous because it has more roots...

I'm also dreaming of a species with orange flowers ... ::)

Ruweiss, where you live, it is cold in winter in your region, this Mutisa has withstood how much (in°) frost?
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Margaret on January 19, 2023, 06:24:18 PM
Hi Rudi, thank you for the reply and lovely photos. I have been trying to germinate them in a cold greenhouse and so  they get some frost. I'm feeling a bit encouraged that you find M. spinosa easy. I will put this batch of seed outside and maybe put some vermiculite in the compost.

Hi Veronique, my sympathies about the difficulty in germinating climbers. Recently I've had success growing my own clematis seed!
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: corydalisambigua on January 20, 2023, 12:11:24 AM
Thank you to all the organizers, seed doners, sorters and mailers! We appreciate you!!! :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: MarcR on January 20, 2023, 12:32:09 AM
have you ever tried to take a cutting?
 sometimes a cutting becomes more vigorous because it has more roots...

I'm also dreaming of a species with orange flowers ... ::)

Ruweiss, where you live, it is cold in winter in your region, this Mutisa has withstood how much (in°) frost?

Véronique,

Ruweiss's signature says that he lives in southern Germany zone 8a.
That means that his low temperatures range between -9.4 and -12.2 C

Most soils along the Danube are limestone; but if he is in a hardwood forest area he could have acid soil.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ruweiss on January 21, 2023, 07:16:48 PM
Margaret and Veronique,
Thank you for your kind replies, hope, that i can answer your questions. Our small garden is behind the
house, surrounded by other gardens and houses, so the miicroclimate is not so good for the cultivation
of my beloved high alpine cushion plants. Many plants, which were no problem 20 years ago are no impossible
to cultivate for me. Temperatures over 33°C are simply lethal for them.
We live in a limestone region ( good for growing wine), so I created a small region with acid soil, this is also
the place where Mutisia spinosa grows.
The lowest temperatures were -14°C, only sometimes for a short time, but enough to damage and kill some tender
plants. I don`t know, if M. spinosa needs cold to germinate, in my experience rain and snow  is also important.
Black plastic pots are probably the reason for losses by overheating of the roots by the sun, plunging  or planting
as soon as possible are maybe better. Space in our garden is very limited, so I didn't make cuttings.



Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on January 25, 2023, 09:01:43 PM
To all our overseas members:

We are currently very much in the dark as to when Royal Mail will again start to accept overseas mail.  The latest position can be found on the Royal Mail website https://www.royalmail.com/service-update (https://www.royalmail.com/service-update) where it currently says that no parcels are being accepted.  We are told that this means anything containing "goods" which includes seeds. 

Most of our overseas mail meaning that mail going to USA, Canada, New Zealand, Norway, Iceland, Switzerland, Russia, Korea, China, Khazakhstan (and several other countries) is already franked, and sitting in mail sacks waiting acceptance by our Post Office.  We are checking the position on a daily basis, and shall send out your seed as soon as we are allowed to do so.

Our European Union, Northern Irish and Australian members willl have to wait for phyto checks to be carried out as usual, before seed can be mailed out to you.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Jeffnz on January 25, 2023, 09:55:34 PM
Hi Richard
Does a phyto check mean a phyto sanitary certificate, htis is currently not a requirement for seed saint to NZ.
Jeff
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on January 25, 2023, 11:30:55 PM
Hi Jeff,
Yes, by "phyto" I do mean a phytosanitary certificate.  We have been sending seed abroad for many years, so we are very well aware that NZ doesn't need any phyto for seed listed as "Basic" on the NZ MPI PIER database.  I think you may have misunderstood my previous post, so I have now edited my wording to make it clearer for everyone.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Jeffnz on January 26, 2023, 12:29:59 AM
Sorry for my mis understanding but thx for the clarification.
Jeff
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Diane Whitehead on January 27, 2023, 07:42:56 PM
My seeds from the AGS just arrived in Canada, so it should be safe for you to mail the SRGC ones.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on January 27, 2023, 10:31:15 PM
Diane, your AGS seeds will have been mailed out before the recent cyber attack. 

As I explained in my earlier posts (dated 25 January), the UK Royal Mail is currently refusing to accept any outgoing overseas parcels.  It is very frustrating because we have several mail sacks of seed orders sitting here which we cannot send out.  We are checking the position on a daily basis and shall send them (including your own order!) just as soon as we are allowed to do so.   
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Diane Whitehead on January 27, 2023, 11:03:39 PM
Yes, I've just checked the date they were sent, Richard, and it was January 6.

Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Eric44 on February 13, 2023, 01:00:35 PM
Thanks to the donors and preparers, the seeds are returned to France via a stopover in Bristol

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Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: GordonT on February 20, 2023, 05:23:47 PM
Seeds arrived in today's mail. Many thanks to all the volunteers and donors that make this exchange possible. I am wondering if the person who kindly donated seeds of Paeonia rockii 'Gansu Mudan Group' could contact me. I would like to learn more about the parent plants if possible. Thanks again!
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Margaret Thorne on February 20, 2023, 09:41:36 PM
Many thanks for the seeds sent to us for the Scottish Borders Rock Garden Group - greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Catwheazle on February 22, 2023, 05:26:03 PM
has anyone from Europe already received seeds from the SRGC seed exchange in 2023?

greetings
Bernd
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Eric NY on February 22, 2023, 06:00:58 PM
Hi All.
Did anyone receive USA bound seed yet?
Eric
Expecting 5 inches of snow today/tonight.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on February 22, 2023, 10:45:18 PM
Catwheazle,
Our EU and Australian seed has NOT yet left Scotland.  It is being inspected for a phytosanitary certificate in Edinburgh.  We hope to mail out within 2 weeks.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on February 22, 2023, 10:45:47 PM
Hello everyone, here is the latest update on seed, including dates of mailing and receipt:

UK - mailed out 14 January (Main & Surplus), and should all have been received by members.

Rest of world - (including Canada, Norway, Russia, New Zealand) some seed was sent 14-16 January, and has arrived with members, rest was sent around 1 February.

USA and Rest of World - eventually mailed out 1 February (despite any earlier date franked on the envelope!) because mail was not accepted by UK Royal Mail due to a cyber-incident.  USDA APHIS inspections on arrival in the USA will delay their delivery to members as usual.  None have yet arrived with members.

EU, Australia, and Ireland (both north and south) - seeds will shortly have a phytosanitary certificate, we hope to mail out within the next 2 weeks.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Catwheazle on February 23, 2023, 07:43:45 AM
Thanks for the detailed information... and please excuse the inconvenience...
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Joe S. on February 24, 2023, 04:31:56 PM
Thanks very much for the update, Richard - very helpful to know the status!
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on March 03, 2023, 08:35:57 AM
A note for our USA members - I have just heard of the first arrival of seed in the USA.  However, some packets were removed by USDA APHIS and destroyed as "Foreign material found".  We are proud of the quality of our seed, and do not think there was any significant quantity of chaff included.  It would be really useful if USA members email me seed(at)srgc.net to advise of arrivals of your seed this year.  Please report to me any problems with destruction of packets, with the packet name/number(s) and we shall investigate.  I am hoping that it is one over-zealous inspector!

A note for our EU menbers - your seed has now left the UK. It is en-route to the EU where it has a stopover, and will be sent to you within the next 2 weeks.

Lastly - do not forget our second 90th Anniversary Zoom talk at 7pm(GMT) tomorrow tonight.  Details are here: https://www.srgc.net/add-90th-talks.asp (https://www.srgc.net/add-90th-talks.asp).
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Catwheazle on March 03, 2023, 08:40:52 AM
great news :-) thx for update!
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: johnw on March 03, 2023, 02:12:06 PM
Apologies, I meant to report my SRGC seeds arrived here in Nova Scotia on the 16th of February. Many thanks to all who make this amazing Seedex run so smoothly.

johnw
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Catwheazle on March 03, 2023, 04:09:59 PM
Lastly - do not forget our second 90th Anniversary Zoom talk at 7pm(GMT) tonight.  Details are here: https://www.srgc.net/add-90th-talks.asp (https://www.srgc.net/add-90th-talks.asp).
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.... today (Friday) ? The Link says Saturday, 04.03. ????

Freetings
Bernd


Yes Bernd, tomorrow - the 4th March -  is correct.   Maggi 
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: MarcR on March 05, 2023, 01:11:47 AM
Part of my surplus order arrived today. My main ordeer and my random picks are yet to arrive.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ashley on March 09, 2023, 06:38:19 PM
Seeds are arriving in the EU 8)
Many thanks to all involved.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on March 10, 2023, 09:56:04 AM
Update for our EU members
Seed envelopes for ALL of our EU members have cleared EU Customs and were mailed to members from within the EU on Wednesday 8 March.
It is good to see that the first ones are already arriving at their destinations.

Update for our Australian Members
The package of seed was mailed to Australia last week on Thursday 2 March.  Tracking on the parcel says that it is expecting export on Wednesday 8 March.
After arriving in Australia, and clearing Customs, it will require repacking and further distribution, so please be patient.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: doc snyder on March 13, 2023, 05:43:06 PM
Seed arrived today...I`m totally happy. Many thanks to the hard-working members who make the SX possible.
Kindest regards, Thorben
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ruweiss on March 13, 2023, 08:24:45 PM
Happy to say, that my requested seeds arrived today. Many thanks to all who keep
the seed exchange running.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Heinz Meyer on March 14, 2023, 05:34:37 AM
The seeds also arrived here yesterday, many thanks to everyone who was involved
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on March 14, 2023, 10:58:25 AM
Excellent news that the system for sending seed to our friends in the EU is working. 
However, sorry for the slight delay this year, there have been several problems to overcome.

Happy sowing!

SRGC Seed Team
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Catwheazle on March 14, 2023, 12:27:28 PM
I also got my seeds today.  ;D ;D ;D
Many thanks to everyone who went to such great trouble to make the exchange possible.
Bernd
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on March 14, 2023, 01:07:09 PM
I received my seeds today! ;D
 The most sensitive ones are already rehydrating gently on damp paper towels...

thank you Richard,
thanks to the whole team

Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Gerdk on March 14, 2023, 02:34:22 PM
I would like to join you here - seeds arrived safely -
many thanks to all which have done this immense work !
Gerd
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Akke on March 14, 2023, 08:03:22 PM
More thanks for the people who made the seed exchange possible. My seeds arrived today and I’m very pleased with what I got and how little time it took to get here ( send seeds sort of got lost and arrived almost three months after sending).
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Tomte on March 15, 2023, 09:03:36 AM
I also received the seeds this week. My sincere gratitude to all who made this possible again despite the proliferation of bureaucratic hurdles. I was amazed to find I even got a packet of Triteleia hendersonii bulblets - I thought this was not possible under current regulations and can’t even recall ordering them, I thought I ordered seed. Quite a pleasant surprise as this means at least something may turn up already this season..
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on March 15, 2023, 10:28:33 AM
I even got a packet of Triteleia hendersonii bulblets

Tom, that was entirely by mistake, we had thought that all live material was moved to the 4000-4999 number range, but a couple slipped through.  We are glad that you have received your seed. Happy growing!
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Leena on March 15, 2023, 05:45:18 PM
Seeds have arrived also to Finland today. :)
Thank you so much everyone!
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: ViggoU on March 15, 2023, 08:54:07 PM
Seeds in the mailbox here in nortern part of Norway too. Thank you soo much!
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Susan on March 18, 2023, 01:07:24 AM
My seed arrived, safely a couple of days ago.    Thank you to all involved. 

Pays to order online as the actual seed list didn't arrive until late January. 

I would be quite happy to just receive it on-line as it would also save postage.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on March 19, 2023, 10:11:11 AM
Susan,
This year's pre-Christmas mailing delays were exceptional.  However, I think the best way for NZ next year is that those that can view the list and order online, do so.  There are several members who are not very friendly with computers, and maybe we can ask a helpful NZ member to print a few copies of the Seed List and mail them onward to those disadvantaged members from within NZ. Those members without computer skills might be able to send scans or photos of paper order forms by email to avoid mailing delays.  It would halp with mailing costs, which continue to escalate.  Something to discuss over the next few months!
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: MarcR on March 19, 2023, 06:48:14 PM
My first choice order arrived yesterday. Thanks to all involved! Half of my random picks are still not here.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Richard Green on March 22, 2023, 10:54:11 AM
Our phytosanitary-certificated seeds have now arrived in Australia, and our helpful members Viv & Ray Condon have mailed out envelopes of seed orders to all of our Australian members from their home in Melbourne today.

Many thanks to all involved with making this happen!
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Joe S. on March 26, 2023, 04:11:48 PM
Seed orders arrived on March 17th after clearing phytosanitary inspection in Seattle.  Several species have already germinated under the grow lights!  Many thanks to those responsible for donating, processing and mailing the seeds  :)
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: MarcR on March 27, 2023, 03:16:27 AM
The last envelope containing 1/2 my random choices arrived yesterday. Once again, Thanks to all involved in making it happen.
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 27, 2023, 11:25:24 AM
Our phytosanitary-certificated seeds have now arrived in Australia, and our helpful members Viv & Ray Condon have mailed out envelopes of seed orders to all of our Australian members from their home in Melbourne today.

Many thanks to all involved with making this happen!
Viv hand delivered our seed allocation at our March meeting of the AGS Vic Group on Saturday!
Thanks for all the work.
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Neil J on March 27, 2023, 11:44:10 AM
Received my seed in Tasmania today.
Thanks to the team in Scotland & to Viv in Australia.
A much valued job done well.
Neil
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: Catwheazle on June 19, 2023, 01:48:20 PM
Hello, I actually wanted to send seeds again this year, (for 2023/2024) but today I had to be instructed
by the post office that shipments of goods (=seeds) both in the EU and in Germany are only allowed for
commercial senders. For private it must be declared as a parcel or package. (Package Germany: €3.99; EU: €5.99 and €8.99 + phytosanitary certificate.).
Of course that makes things very difficult and I hope that there might be a collective address in Germany or Austria (since I live near the border)?
Greetings
Bernd
Title: Re: SRGC seed exchange in 2022/2023
Post by: bainbridges on June 21, 2023, 07:23:50 PM
Hi Bernd

We are still working out what we might be able to do this year with seed from outside the UK.  It is the case that all seed imports will need a phyto. certificate, and we may need to have some form of importer permit, but this is not yet clear.  We do not know of any new issues or restrictions over the posting of seed; this may be to do with the German Post Office regulations rather than anything to do with the UK.

As soon as we have clarifications, we will put information on the seed exchange area of the SRGC Website.  Sorry we cannot be more certain just now.

Ian Bainbridge
SRGC Seed Reception
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