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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2010, 09:43:38 AM »
Beautiful little critters aren't they? I'm not a great, nor a very successful grower of Cyclamen, but I keep on trying. This is perhaps more a reflection of my difficult growing conditions (warm & humid) rather than my lack of enthusiasm! C. coum is quite tough here and so is C. pupurascens - C. hederifolium just fades away in short order... It will be interesting to see if my C. mirabile, C. alpinum and C. persicum seedlings make it through the summer - I don't grow them under any cover, so they have to face up to the full might of our (supposedly) heavy summer rainfall.
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2010, 09:46:05 AM »
I also found this interesting information, Rodger. It shows clearly how difficult it is to transliterate from one alphabet to another, where the same letters may have different sounds. We now have bilingual roadsides here. The common practise is to convert the bulgarian alphabet letter sounds into the equivalent in the english alphabet. Often this doesn't make the town/village name immediately obvious as some of the letter combinations, especially vowels, have different sounds in english. Some older signs are transliterated in croatian alphabet, which again is fine if you understand how some of the letters are digraphs with different sounds.
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2010, 06:22:52 PM »
;) Both growth forms have their merits- but I do prefer C.coum in rock work in the garden- though it is more normal here to see them wild in the woods.

It looks I have a companion at least  :)
In my opinion more Cyclamen has to planted out in our rockgarden. I saw many Greek species growing very often between and in rocks in their natural habitat. Even in the woods there are stones and rocks in the soil .
My Cyclamen hederifolium ,purperascens,alpinum ,coum ,cilicium does grow nice and compact in the rockgarden and for me looks better then in the borders.So I want to try more species in the future.
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2010, 07:53:03 PM »
We do have some cyclamen in pots... mostly to admire at close quarters and give a little protection to some.... and troughs.... but we find they do best in the gravel paths and near the rocks at the edges of beds....they really seem to feel most  at home there...even in Aberdeen!  8)
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2010, 10:09:05 PM »
but we find they do best in the gravel paths and near the rocks at the edges of beds....they really seem to feel most  at home there...even in Aberdeen!  8)

Ok Maggi , welcome in the club..At least we have three members .
Do you know a name for our new society???
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2010, 10:15:19 PM »
Kris, the two Cyclamen species we have here in Bulgaria- C.hederifolium and C.coum are both generally associated with rockwork in open woods. One of the C.hederifolium populations we know, grows in what would  almost be described as xeric conditions in shallow pockets of soil in eroded limestone rock work under dwarfed lilac bushes. The whole area seems lifeless in summer, yet in late September the Cyclamen spring back into life. This is why I am surprised by Rogan's comment about them not doing well with him. The C.coum we have seen have been in more humic soil, but again associated with limestone.
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2010, 10:16:08 PM »
Yes, but it will be expensive to put the whole name  on a badge.....

Happy Intelligent Plant Persons Internet Experience Society.... the acronym will be cheaper to add..... HIPPIES  ::) 8)
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2010, 10:29:33 PM »
Yes, but it will be expensive to put the whole name  on a badge.....

Happy Intelligent Plant Persons Internet Experience Society.... the acronym will be cheaper to add..... HIPPIES  ::) 8)

Ok Maggi ,you did it again. Can live with the acronym to ,so let peace and happyness joint us ...
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2010, 10:33:58 PM »
Kris, the two Cyclamen species we have here in Bulgaria- C.hederifolium and C.coum are both generally associated with rockwork in open woods. One of the C.hederifolium populations we know, grows in what would  almost be described as xeric conditions in shallow pockets of soil in eroded limestone rock work under dwarfed lilac bushes. The whole area seems lifeless in summer, yet in late September the Cyclamen spring back into life. This is why I am surprised by Rogan's comment about them not doing well with him. The C.coum we have seen have been in more humic soil, but again associated with limestone.

Thanks Simon ,again some evidence...
Sure let you know al the efforts and tests I made in the future...
But can tel you already that cilicium also is a great rockgardenplant!   

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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2010, 10:58:15 PM »


Thanks Simon ,again some evidence...
Sure let you know al the efforts and tests I made in the future...
But can tel you already that cilicium also is a great rockgardenplant!   



 C. cilicium is happy in the paths here, too.
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2010, 08:13:57 AM »
Good here too in the xeric garden- with Gymnospermium and Crocus- baked hard in summer  ;)
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2010, 07:50:03 PM »
Cyclamen are starting to flower now

Cyclamen alpinum
Cyclamen coum
Cyclamen coum 'Lake Effect'
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2010, 07:55:10 PM »
Tony, lovely. What size pots are you using please?
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2010, 08:01:08 PM »
Tony, lovely. What size pots are you using please?

David the first is in a 20 cm one the second a 15 cm and the last which is a young plant 10cm. They all need potting on but there is no time.
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Re: Cyclamen 2010
« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2010, 10:53:20 AM »
Tony
these are fantastic plants, in particularly the alpinum.

Here the pseudibericum, libanoticum are starting to bloom now...


 Cyclamen  X schwarzii [libanoticum x pseudoibericum]
 C. pseudibericum
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