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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2021, 02:21:03 PM »
Thank You, Yvain! I´m well aware of the difficulties concerning scilla, and I´m no specialist at all! What strikes me is that the flowers have a rather flat form, the inner side being lighter coloured than the outer. Stronger bulbs produce 1 stalk with 2 flowers and a shorter stalk with 1 from a pair of leaves. Perhaps these additional pics are helpful?
I can't be sure but it fits Scilla ingridae. Have a look here https://www.turkiyebitkileri.com/en/photo-gallery/view-album/833.html to compare the different species of turkish Scilla.
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2021, 06:33:23 PM »
Yes, it may well be Scilla ingridae. I think I´ll have to wait for seeds to develop to be more sure.

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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2021, 02:26:17 PM »
Some more Scilla  :)

Scilla mesopotamica (with its long style)




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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2021, 02:30:34 PM »
Scilla sardensis
Looking for how identifiy 'Chionodoxa', I found that each of the 4 turkish 'Chionodoxa' species were locally endemic and known only from the type location. Quite strange to know that while it is so easy to cultivate !

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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2021, 08:52:38 PM »
This one was found in a place where Scilla and Chionodoxa are naturalized. I wonder if it may be a white Scilla/Chionodoxa sardensis?


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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2021, 09:08:45 PM »
Scilloideae,  Hyacinthaceae - so many little blue and white bulbs- often so muddling to distinguish - here are  some  super  photos from Frankie Wulleman in West Flanders - in several batches....

From the internet: Scilla section Chionodoxa, known as glory-of-the-snow, is a small group of bulbous perennial flowering plants in the family Asparagaceae, subfamily Scilloideae. Formerly treated as the separate genus Chionodoxa, they are now included in Scilla as a section. The section is endemic to the eastern Mediterranean, specifically Crete, Cyprus and Turkey. The blue, white or pink flowers appear early in the year making them valuable garden ornamentals.

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Chionodoxa forbesii 'The Giant'

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Chionodoxa  sardensis


Chionodoxa  sardensis


Chionodoxa  sardensis

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Chionodoxa  sardensis

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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2021, 09:10:34 PM »
next....
more  shots of the  charming Chionodoxa  sardensis

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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2021, 09:14:12 PM »
more.... I'm including these  Muscari here  too!


Muscari adilii


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Muscari azureum  'alba'


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Muscari azureum



Muscari chalcedonicum

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Muscari chalcedonicum
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2021, 09:16:42 PM »
and.... more muscari sneaking in!


Muscari neglectum


Muscari species with Narcissus assoanus subsp. magnicoronatus MV2018FW


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Scilla bifolia close


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Scilla bifolia


Scilla bifolia, dark flowers
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2021, 09:19:31 PM »
more...


Scilla bifolia subsp tauricum


Scilla melaina close

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Scilla melaina

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Scilla mischtschenskoana

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Scilla rosenii
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2021, 09:20:46 PM »
last two ..... Thanks, Frankie!!


Scilla rosenii


Scilla silicica
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2021, 09:39:33 PM »
Helen Knowles of Tinnisburn Plants (https://tinnisburn.co.uk ) writes on Facebook : " I am very lucky to be the current custodian of the National Collection of Scilla (Chionodoxa) and they are at their glorious best at the moment. Sadly, due to Covid restrictions, I haven‘t been able to hold open weekends to allow visitors to see them but it’s a definite for next year!"

Helen posted these  photos:

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 Helen also writes that she  doesn't  have any  for  sale   ...." at the moment but I’m trying to get good photos of them all this spring and when I re-pot them later in the summer I’ll sort out some for sale as some of them have bulked up really well."


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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2021, 12:21:55 AM »
Well what a stunning collection of Scilla and Chionodoxa* Frankie! Thanks for sharing. I really think Chionodoxa are one of the most underrated garden bulbs, they can make a beautiful show in a garden. They take me back to my undergraduate days at Oxford, there were always thousands of C. sardensis in the Parks at this time of year, making a sea of blue.

Are you sure about the identity of the S. bifolia? The first one looks a bit verna like to me** and the second one like a Chionodoxa. Whatever they are, they're very nice!


* I know they have been merged but they'll always be Chionodoxa to me.
** Just took a look at my bifolia in the garden and one of them has this shape of inflorescence - oops.
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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2021, 08:03:48 AM »
What a lovely thread. I just love these blues, thank you for posting and thank you for that peek at the National Collection.
A couple flowering here;
x Chionoscilla allenii 'Fra Angelico'
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Chionodoxa forbesii 'Aegius'
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Re: Scilla and relative 2021
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2021, 04:54:59 PM »
Thank also from me, what superb blue flowers all. Scillas and Chionodoxa are so good because mice or voles don't eat them. At least not here they haven't.
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