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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Herman Mylemans on March 16, 2021, 08:08:27 AM
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Trillium season is starting!
Here always Trillium nivale is the first. Pity that the weather is unstable, low temperature and there has been a lot of rain, even a day with hail.
A lot of other Trilliums have emerged and are waiting for better times!
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Trillium season is starting!
Here always Trillium nivale is the first. Pity that the weather is unstable, low temperature and there has been a lot of rain, even a day with hail.
A lot of other Trilliums have emerged and are waiting for better times!
Very beautiful Herman. Spring may be slow for you. Here we are still in winter weather.
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Trillium chloropetalum var. giganteum
Trillium ludovicianum
Trillium kurabayashii
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Trillium ovatum
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Beautiful, Herman, with all the lovely hepaticas too.
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What a nice display Herman, Trilliums with Hepatica together!
We don't get to see such combination, or at least I don't because the majority of species I have flower long after the Hepatica. Only T. nivale would be so early but I didn't manage to find any to purchase here (or seeds).
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What a nice display Herman, Trilliums with Hepatica together!
I think so too! So pretty view.
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Thank you all! This Trillium ovatum form is much earlier then my other ovatum on another place in the garden. I once was forgotten to remove the berries, so you see now a lot of seedlings. On the first picture you see Trillium chloropetalum var. giganteum on the background, this one is earlier then the ovatum.
Gabriella, till now I have never seen good seeds on my Trillium nivale. I don't know why.
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Thank you all! This Trillium ovatum form is much earlier then my other ovatum on an other place in the garden. I once was forgotten to remove the berries, so you see now a lot of seedlings. On the first picture you see Trillium chloropetalum var. giganteum on the background, this one is earlier then the ovatum.
Gabriella, till now I have never seen good seeds on my Trillium nivale. I don't know why.
This species doesn't come as far north into Canada, who knows why, it is hardy enough. But I know that in its native habitat grows on gravelly, mineral substrate, including g limestone bluffs and crevices.
But it seems to flower well in your garden, it may be a lack of pollinators because it flowers so early.
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This species doesn't come as far north into Canada, who knows why, it is hardy enough. But I know that in its native habitat grows on gravelly, mineral substrate, including g limestone bluffs and crevices.
But it seems to flower well in your garden, it may be a lack of pollinators because it flowers so early.
I will use a brush and see if it helps. The other problem was that if there were seeds they didn’t mature.
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Trillium nivale
Trillium chloropetalum var. giganteum
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Trillium ovatum
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This clump of Trillium chloropetalum can be depended upon to put on a good display. This was originally a pot of seedlings from an AGC-BC seed exchange.
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Trillium cuneatum is interesting even without flowers due to its mottled foliage.
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Trillium ovatum, our native.
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Pseudotrillium rivale seeds around the garden, to my delight.
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A couple of petal forms of Pseudotrillium rivale
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Beautiful Trilliums Claire, thanks for showing. Pseudotrillium rivale seems to like your garden.
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Steve, your Pseudotrillium rivale starts to flower. Thanks a lot.
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Trillium kurabayashii yellow sown in 2015.
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Trillium ludovicianum sown in 2014
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I've never seen yellow kurabayashii before; lovely 8)
You have a great collection Hermann. Where do you get seed?
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I've never seen yellow kurabayashii before; lovely 8)
You have a great collection Hermann. Where do you get seed?
Ashley, some seed came from Trillium-L others from exchanging with persons.
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Trillium pusillum var. pusillum is starting!
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Trillium kurabayashii yellow sown in 2015.
That´s a quick success and very interesting selection! Congratulations, Herman!
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Ashley, some seed came from Trillium-L others from exchanging with persons.
Thanks Herman.
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I wish I could grow Pseudotrillium rivale, but it seems that my climate is too cold for it. I now have some seedlings in pot, where I have to grow them.
Trillium nivale is soon flowering no matter how cold it was.
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A couple of Trilliums in the garden at Ardfearn Nursry, near Inverness, Scotland - before the storm that hit yesterday and overnight.... Sarah says the wind has been relentless.
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Trillium pusillum var. pusillum is starting!
Tremendous success to have such a good clump, Herman - they seem to love your garden!
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Tremendous success to have such a good clump, Herman - they seem to love your garden!
Thanks Maggi, I hope it stays that way! In the past gentians grows like weed and suddenly it stops. Till know a lot of Trilliums are growing well. But there is always a danger that a disease appears for a plant family. So I learned that you always need a backup: spreading plants over a great distance or better in different gardens.
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Most white trilliums I raised from a batch of seed appear to be hybrids.
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Most white trilliums I raised from a batch of seed appear to be hybrids.
Mariëtte, anyway they look marvellous.
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This clump of Trillium hibbersonii started as a single seedling about 1970. It is growing in poor soil and never fertilized as fertilizing killed all the trilliums when a new owner bought Hibberson's garden, so those of us in Victoria learned what not to do.
The flowers open a good pink and gradually fade.
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This clump of Trillium hibbersonii started as a single seedling about 1970. It is growing in poor soil and never fertilized as fertilizing killed all the trilliums when a new owner bought Hibberson's garden, so those of us in Victoria learned what not to do.
The flowers open a good pink and gradually fade.
Diane, beautiful hibbersonii. I didn’t now that fertilizing is bad for this Trillium. Maybe that is the reason that I have lost them. So if you have seeds that you can spare, I would-be be very interested.
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Thank You, Herman!
Diane, that´s a very important information! Usually I have to fertilize all my trilliums to keep them flowering, despite my heavy soil.
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This clump of Trillium hibbersonii started as a single seedling about 1970. It is growing in poor soil and never fertilized as fertilizing killed all the trilliums when a new owner bought Hibberson's garden, so those of us in Victoria learned what not to do.
The flowers open a good pink and gradually fade.
Diane,
Interesting about the fertiliser. I don’t feed trilliums in the garden usually, but I do feed the seedlings in pots in the cold frames - I use very dilute tomato fertiliser. I wonder if that is why I lose some seedlings? I have always thought losses were due to the compost deteriorating after a few years - the seedlings can be in the same compost for 4- 5 years, depending on how many years the seeds take to germinate, then the seedlings remain in the same pot for another 2 years or so. When I empty out the pots the soil can be very sticky, and be covered in liverwort.
Do you know if the fertiliser which killed the T. hibbersonii was artificial or organic?
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No, I don't know what kind of fertilizer was used.
The man who gave me the seedling had flats of seedlings growing in what I think was a fine gravel - not as small as sand.
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Thanks, Diane, it sounds as if the seedlings were growing in something like chick grit - half way between sand and gravel and a very useful product for seedlings.
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Mariette, beautiful white Trilliums whatever the name. :)
Diane, also I appreciate the information about fertilizing. It is good to know that it is hardy enough to grow in Canada, so maybe I can plant some of mine outside. Right now they are still in two pots and they are two year old seedlings.
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Ah, Leena, not all of Canada is cold in winter.
Those of us who live on the Pacific ocean usually have mild winters. We did get snow one day this year and two of my trees were so surprised that they fell down.
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Ah, Leena, not all of Canada is cold in winter.
Those of us who live on the Pacific ocean usually have mild winters. We did get snow one day this year and two of my trees were so surprised that they fell down.
Of course, Diane. :-[ Silly of me, it says so also under your signature:). Only one day of snow, I am so envious.
I wonder if anyone in more colder parts of Canada grow T.hibbersonii outside?
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I saw hibbersonii growing in Prague.
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I saw hibbersonii growing in Prague.
I think Prague is warmer region than what it is here, or winters are longer here. I will wait a few more years and then plant part of the pot outside and see what happens:).
To very gritty compost if I understood from what you wrote earlier.
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Yes, gritty poor soil is probably best.
It is native to cliffs along the ocean at about 600 m (2000 ft.)
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Thanks Diane. :)
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In 2003, I planted Trillium hibbersonii in humus rich soil, in shade, it stayed alive till 2012. But it always stayed one plant, there were some seedlings in 2013. But at the moment everything is lost. Maybe is the solution gritty poor soil.
Trillium undulatum is also a very difficult one to keep alive.
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My T. hibbersonii, from seed sown in about 2008, is also in fairly humus-rich soil.
In all that time individual plants have not bulked up although they slowly multiply by seed.
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It grows very slowly from seed.
Here are seedlings from seed I sowed last June 22. They germinated September 1 and grew though the winter in my cold greenhouse. This photo was taken today, and you can see they can be measured in millimetres.
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Even after another year (sown 6/2019) they're still tiny, and all too easy to lose in the garden.
Your pink plant is lovely Diane, and it's very impressive to see how well it has multiplied.
Clearly my conditions are not ideal yet. However if ever you have seed to spare I'd love to try some.
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Trillium undulatum is also a very difficult one to keep alive.
Herman, Trillium undulatum is a native species here, and to date, I have found it growing under coniferous forests, with deep, humus rich, mossy soil. Companion plants growing in the same area are Cypripedium acaule, Epigaea repens, and Clintonia borealis. The forest floor stays fairly moist and cool in this environment. I now have a densely planted pot of T.undulatum seedlings that I hope to plant in the forested portion of our property.
Oddly I have never been able to successfully germinate seed of Trillium rivale, in spite of several attempts, and have yet to try Trillium hibbersonii. My small collection includes T chloropetalum, T cuneatum, T. erectum, T. grandiflorum, T. luteum, T. ovatum, and T. recurvatum.
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GordonT - My southern land here in Nova Scoitia is covered in T. undulatum. They are almost impossibles to dig, you dig down sometimes 30cm through moist or dry duff through an entanglement of tree roots and find nothing but a ridiculously long Trillium stem. The bulb itself is sitting atop wet mud, roots often covering the mud or deep down. They grow in sun to partial sun due to the wetter climate and the fog belt, not so many in shade. A stinker to place properly so better to grow by seed and let them do their own thing.
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Thank you all for the interesting information.
I think I may conclude:
Trillium hibbersonii in poor gritty sandy soil in shade and no fertilizer. Maybe only some potassium.
Trillium undulatum in very humus acid moist soil in sunny position during flowering time. Never transplanting them.
Compost from coniferous trees.
I will try to find some seeds and see what the future will bring.
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Trillium sessile, the true form.
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Trillium kurabayashii from yellow parents. Perhaps the next generation will again give yellow flowers.
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I am wondering if there are some soil flora associations that come into play with "difficult" trilliums. For instance, the types of fungi and and other soil organisms (that includes mycorrhizae) are very different in the duff under pines versus arborvitae versus various deciduous trees, etc.
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I agree Rick, and suspect that fungal associations are very important, even crucial.
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Trillium pusillum is fully open and Pseudotrillium clumps are still going strong.
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Ipheon uniflorum teamed up with Pseudotrillium rivale and a narcissus.
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Trillium pusillum is fully open
Claire, your pusillum has beautiful undulate petals. Does all your pusillums have that or is this a special form.
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Hi, Herman,
All my Trillium pusillum have wavy petal edges. While I've never spotted seed pods on this clump, three seedling groups have appeared and all have wavy petal edges.
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They are lovely. I read that they are native to swampy areas in the southeastern U.S.
What are your garden's conditions?
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Trillium pusillum is growing in full sun in a slightly raised bed that has a lot of compost incorporated in it. It gets a fair amount of moisture from a small boggy area near by, where Epipactus gigantea is trying to take over the world. Fritillaria camschatcensis and various trollius grow nearby.
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GordonT - My southern land here in Nova Scoitia is covered in T. undulatum. They are almost impossibles to dig, you dig down sometimes 30cm through moist or dry duff through an entanglement of tree roots and find nothing but a ridiculously long Trillium stem. The bulb itself is sitting atop wet mud, roots often covering the mud or deep down. They grow in sun to partial sun due to the wetter climate and the fog belt, not so many in shade. A stinker to place properly so better to grow by seed and let them do their own thing.
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I'm still hoping that one year you make the effort to collect seeds from this beauty John. It is a pity not to share with the world :)
The clump of T. pusillum with wavy petals it is gorgeous!
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Lovely Trilliums, and thank your for sharing the special growing conditions, Claire and John.
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I'm still hoping that one year you make the effort to collect seeds from this beauty John. It is a pity not to share with the world :)
Gabriela, I have collected Trillium undulatum seed for the exchange in the past few years, sharing it with both the SRGC and NARGS Seed Exchanges, and plan to collect seed again this year. I will send you some if you wish.
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Gabriela, I have collected Trillium undulatum seed for the exchange in the past few years, sharing it with both the SRGC and NARGS Seed Exchanges, and plan to collect seed again this year. I will send you some if you wish.
I would be delighted to get some seeds Gordon, thanks very much.
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Gabriela, I have collected Trillium undulatum seed for the exchange in the past few years, sharing it with both the SRGC and NARGS Seed Exchanges, and plan to collect seed again this year. I will send you some if you wish.
Gordon - Realize it's a 3 hour 45 minute drive to that land. If you get the timing wrong - and it's different every year - then the 7 hour drive was in vain. If I luck out then no problem.
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Today it was sunny weather.
Trillium chloropetalum var. giganteum has endured snow and hail balls. My hand shows how big the flowers and the leaves are.
Trillium pusillum var. pusillum
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Trillium ovatum changes color as the flowers age.
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Very glad you put your hand in that pic, Herman. I never would have known how huge that Trillium is! Very worthy of it's name!
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Today it was sunny weather.
Trillium chloropetalum var. giganteum has endured snow and hail balls. My hand shows how big the flowers and the leaves are.
Trillium pusillum var. pusillum
You have the most impressive Trillium clumps Herman!
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Gordon - Realize it's a 3 hour 45 minute drive to that land. If you get the timing wrong - and it's different every year - then the 7 hour drive was in vain. If I luck out then no problem.
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True is a long drive John, but maybe it can be combined with other hikes/sightseeings.
Regarding the seeds maturation timing - I am not familiar with this species, but for Trillium grandiflorum and T. erectum I noticed over the years that regardless if we had an early or late spring, the capsules are ready around the same date every year/for a given locality.
So, for large populations where not all plants flower exactly at once, even if you are +/- 1 week out of schedule, you will still find some seeds.
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Rick and Gabriela thank you. A lot of Trilliums are growing well in our garden. I hope it stays this way. Clumping is not always from one plant sometimes there are a lot of seedlings on the same place.
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Trillium cuneatum
Trillium freemanii
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I like T. freemannii Herman. Is it recently described? Not heard of this one.
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I like T. freemannii Herman. Is it recently described? Not heard of this one.
Tristan, description is at least 10 years ago. Mine are from seeds in 2014.
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I like T. freemannii Herman. Is it recently described? Not heard of this one.
Discovered in 1998 by Aaron Floden, Tony Avent and Russ Graham, I think - read a long thread about it, starting here on Trillium-L
https://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/trillium-l/2015-March/023377.html
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Trillium albidum
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Trillium flexipes
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Trillium sessile
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Tristan, description is at least 10 years ago. Mine are from seeds in 2014.
Thanks Maggi and Herman. I'll keep an eye out for it.
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Trillium albidum
Trillium flexipes
Nice Trilliums Claire, also big clumps!
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Thanks, Herman. Trilliums really like it here in the Pacific Northwest.
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Trillium albidum
Trillium angustipetalum
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Trillium apetalon
Trillium luteum
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Trillium grandiflorum dwarf form
Trillium grandiflorum f. roseum
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Trillium grandiflorum dwarf form
Trillium grandiflorum f. roseum
It seems our T. grandiflorum will flower in the same time this year Herman. Too warm in early spring here and probably unusual cold in Belgium.
In the woods a couple of days ago: T. grandiflorum, T. erectum and probably their hybrid (a single specimen).
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Lovely to see these in the wild, and seeding so abundantly; thanks Gabriela.
Is that Erythronium americanum in your first photo, incl. yellow flowers further back on the right?
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It seems our T. grandiflorum will flower in the same time this year Herman. Too warm in early spring here and probably unusual cold in Belgium.
In the woods a couple of days ago: T. grandiflorum, T. erectum and probably their hybrid (a single specimen).
Gabriela, nice to see Trillium grandiflorum and erectum in the wild. Here they mostly start to flower in the second half of April, with the peak in early May.
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Lovely to see these in the wild, and seeding so abundantly; thanks Gabriela.
Is that Erythronium americanum in your first photo, incl. yellow flowers further back on the right?
Yes Ashley, I will post a picture in the Erythronium thread. This is indeed a place where T. grandiflorum propagates by itself with abandon :) reason why I don't feel bad to collect some of its seeds to share.
Herman: here it is a bit in advance, but very welcomed at any time. I don't have other native Trillium species growing in my nearby region.
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Trillium camschatcense
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Trillium erectum
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The erectums are rather droopy.
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The erectums are rather droopy.
Diane they are waiting for rain! It has been 16 days without rain and a lot of wind.
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Hopefully you get some rain Herman; T. erectum is naturally droopy :) but it will suffer if too dry at flowering time.
Just a youngster which was purchasedso it will take time to increase.
Trillium recurvatum.
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Claire, Gabriella and Herman -lovely trilliums. Our weather is not good for trilliums. I have a few but still don't increase in size, They are closer to the house.My trillium kamtschaticum was coming up nicely with 2 buds but 4 days ago the cold weather made it droopy. I Hope it will recover.
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Kris - I was reading in Fred Case's book on Trilliums that there is one American sp. that will tolerate repeated nightly hard freezes and pop right back. Name escapes me but was long thought to be extinct.
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Got the seeds for this plant 2010, it was collected at Vancouver Island
and am not quite sure about the true name
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Rudi, your trillium looks a bit like T rivale to me, maybe a seedling of the ‘Purple Heart’ form. But this is not possible if it really WAS collected on Vancouver island. Rivale’s range is southern Oregon/Northern California. Hibbersonii is found on Vancouver Island. Could two packets of seeds have been muddled up?
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Rudi,
I have just looked in Fred case’s Trillium book. He reckoned that hibbersonii is just a stunted form of ovatum (I think I read somewhere that it is now a species in its own right). Anyway, he says for hibbersonii « petals open clear pink, fading to white », so your lovely pink petals should fade to white.
For rivale he says that in fruit »the berry like capsule falls from the basal attachment without splitting ». I have noticed for hibbersonii in my garden that the berry falls and splits - have to be quick to gather seeds or the ants take them.
The shape of your petals fits rivale better than hibbersonii.
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Also, hibbersonii leaves are sessile. This looks like a nice Pseudotrillium rivale.
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Rudi, it is certainly Pseudotrillium rivale. Like Ashley said hibbersonii leaves are sessile.
Trillium flexipes starts to flower.
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For the first time Trillium camschatcense 'Nemuro' in flower.
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Carolyn, Ashley and Herman, thank you so much for your help in finding
the true name of my Trillium. I am glad to be in this forum with these experts.
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Trillium flexipes
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Trillium erectum
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Trillium parviflorum
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Hybrids of Trillium sulcatum and flexipes
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Claire, nice big Trilliums! The slugs don't find them!
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Claire very impressive Trilliums. I love to grow them.We can't grow trillium as lush as yours. Beautiful sight.
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Hybrids of Trillium sulcatum and flexipes
Is a hybrid easier, faster to grow, and more lush than species?
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The hybrid grows about the same as either species. In my garden, all three types -- species and hybrids -- make huge clumps if they're not crowded.
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Trillium erectum has had some rain!
Following seedling was not far away, probably a crossing with flexipes that stands two meters away: Trillium erectum x flexipes
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Trillium stamineum
Trillium sulcatum, I think. It was bought under the name Trillium grandiflorum beige, that was certainly wrong.
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Lovely T. sulcatum there Herman.
Here Trillium chloropetalum v. giganteum which is so much like T. kurabayashi. Is there a definitive way to distinguish them?
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T. camtschatcense
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T. albidum ex Don Armstrong, said to be larger flowered......
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John, Trillium chloropetalum var. giganteum flower and leaves are much bigger. Look also at the ovary. The anthers are longer
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Trillium kurabayashii
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John and Herman very nice trilliums. Trillium is not that easy to grow here. Two years ago bought a Trillium Kamtschaticum from a nursery. Planted closer to the foundation of the house.This years it started with two buds but the minus weather made one bud to distort. Here is the other bud which became a nice flower.
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John and Herman very nice trilliums. Trillium is not that easy to grow here. Two years ago bought a Trillium Kamtschaticum from a nursery. Planted closer to the foundation of the house.This years it started with two buds but the minus weather made one bud to distort. Here is the other bud which became a nice flower.
Kris, here T. camtschatcense is also slow growing.
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John, here some picture of today with the meter to show the size.
Trillium chloropetalum var. giganteum
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This Trillium chloropetalum was sown from seed ex seeds in 2014 and is now flowering.
Stems are quite short but the flowers are big compared to the plant size. Very nice, thank you who ever donated the seeds in 2014.
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Lovely colour of trillium, Leena, and so satisfying after such a long wait!
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Trillium grandiflorum 'Flore Plenum'
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Trillium luteum
Trillium grandiflorum 'Snow Bunting'
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Herman: seems that your garden is filled with the most wonderful Trillium clumps!
Here Trillium grandiflorum is at peak flowering, we are back on track now with almost summer like temp., so the flowers will start to fade fast.
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Herman the trilliums in your garden look amazing.
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Gabriela and Kris, thank you.
I love Trilliums, but not all are doing well in our garden, for instance I have lost: Trillium catesbaei, Trillium vaseyi, Trillium decumbens, Trillium maculatum , Trillium hibbersonii.
But we keep on trying!
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Here Trillium grandiflorum is at peak flowering ...
What a sight 8)
Here the cool spring allow trilliums to stay in flower for longer than usual.
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Trillium grandiflorum
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Trillium foetidissimum
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Trillium oostingii
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Trillium viridescens
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Trillium rugelii
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Great trilliums, Herman. The last four are ones I've not seen other than in books. They all look pretty happy.
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Great trilliums, Herman. The last four are ones I've not seen other than in books. They all look pretty happy.
Thank you Claire, from 2014 till 2018 I have been looking after special Trillium seeds and now a part of them are already planted in the garden.
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What a sight 8)
Here the cool spring allow trilliums to stay in flower for longer than usual.
Same happened her Ashley. It was a great spring for all early flowering species, I say it was because we are heading right into summer with 27C and more expected next week!
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You seem to have an endless collection of Trilliums Herman! and of garden space :)
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Herman, you are really good at growing Trilliums!
I have also tried to sow many Trilliums from seed ex but only the most common ones seem to germinate for me. :) I still love them all.
I sowed I.rugelii from seed ex 2014 and two seeds germinated in 2019, the same was with T.sulcatum, but better late than never. :)
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Herman, you are really good at growing Trilliums!
I have also tried to sow many Trilliums from seed ex but only the most common ones seem to germinate for me. :) I still love them all.
I sowed I.rugelii from seed ex 2014 and two seeds germinated in 2019, the same was with T.sulcatum, but better late than never. :)
Leena, you need to have fresh seeds. Which one would you try? (send me a PM)
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Thank you Herman for you kind offer. I have now some seedlings growing from different kinds, so I will think about it (if there is something I don't have and which would grow here).
These T.chloropetalum plants are all from seeds sown 2014 and 2015, and I'm so happy to have them now. :)
In the second picture is a mystery Trillium. They were sown in 2014 as T.parviflorum, and last spring the white ones flowered and I thought they are T.parviflorum. Now the purplish flower had gotten me confused. It grows in the same clump with the white ones and I'm pretty sure they were all sown in the same pot originally. The purple one is flowering now for the first time. The flower shape is different than in any of my T.chloropetalums.
In the last picture the mystery is in the left and bigger T.chloropetalums in the right.
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Thank you Herman for you kind offer. I have now some seedlings growing from different kinds, so I will think about it (if there is something I don't have and which would grow here).
These T.chloropetalum plants are all from seeds sown 2014 and 2015, and I'm so happy to have them now. :)
In the second picture is a mystery Trillium. They were sown in 2014 as T.parviflorum, and last spring the white ones flowered and I thought they are T.parviflorum. Now the purplish flower had gotten me confused. It grows in the same clump with the white ones and I'm pretty sure they were all sown in the same pot originally. The purple one is flowering now for the first time. The flower shape is different than in any of my T.chloropetalums.
In the last picture the mystery is in the left and bigger T.chloropetalums in the right.
Leena, your mystery Trillium is surely a hybrid and it is a beautiful one!
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Thank you Herman, I suspected it and it is good to know they are hybrids. I like it, too, and often hybrids are even better plants than species.
I got seeds from the white flowering plants, but they haven't germinated yet, it will be interesting to see how they will look later. :)
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Couple of more Trilliums.
The first was grown from seed ex 2014 as T.sessile, very nice compact plant with relatively big flowers and nice foliage.
The second was also sown in 2014, it is T.erectum Klon5, and flowering now for the first time.
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Couple of more Trilliums.
The first was grown from seed ex 2014 as T.sessile, very nice compact plant with relatively big flowers and nice foliage.
The second was also sown in 2014, it is T.erectum Klon5, and flowering now for the first time.
Lena, nice Trilliums! The first one is type sessile, but the flower is to big to be the real Trillium sessile.
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Trillium sulcatum
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Lena, nice Trilliums! The first one is type sessile, but the flower is to big to be the real Trillium sessile.
Herman, thank you. :)
I have suspected that it wasn't the real T.sessile, but it is a very nice plant, short but still relatively big flowers. Do you think it is also a hybrid?
Last year I was hoping to get seeds from it but then deer ate the flower, this year I hope for better luck now that we have a fence around the garden (deer can still jump but that doesn't happen very often).
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I also have a very similar looking one sold to me as T. sessile.
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I first suspected it was not sessile when I saw the "bulb":
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True T. sessile is rhizomatous (see arrow). Collected by a friend on his land in Illinois, USA. I was a bit baffled when I first examined the structure, as it isn't a straight forward horizontal rhizome as T. cuneatum and T. recurvatum are :
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Trillium cuneatum
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Herman, does this all seem right to you?
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Leena and Rick, what is the smell?
I was thinking at Trillium foetidissimum, that one should be extremely fetid or stinking especially when there is some sun.
Rick, for identification you are right that the rhizomes are important, also the berries. I collect pictures of them on our computer. But I don't have one of Trillium foetidissimum.
I have added a picture from J.F Gyer about the ovary has help.
The other picture Trillium foetidissimum in our garden.
Interesting link: https://bisque.cyverse.org/image_service/image/00-6z5oPKupd2j9woYgi6kgin/resize:1250/format:jpeg
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Mine has a light, pleasant fragrance.
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Mine has no smell, or a very faint one, not bad but not good either. My biggest T.chloropetalum smelled like fruit, not a strong scent but very nice. I haven't smelled them earlier, so it was a surprise how good the scent was. Then I have another big T.chloropetalum - almost no scent!
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Mine has no smell, or a very faint one, not bad but not good either. My biggest T.chloropetalum smelled like fruit, not a strong scent but very nice. I haven't smelled them earlier, so it was a surprise how good the scent was. Then I have another big T.chloropetalum - almost no scent!
T. chloropetalum should smell like a rose.
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Trillium recurvatum
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Trillium lancifolium starts to flower!
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Trillium chloropetalum leaves have been damaged, but is this because of snails, or too dry or too much sun?
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Leena, mine are like that too. I think it’s too dry and sunny for them. In fact, mine look worse than yours, after frosts and a bitterly cold north wind in May.
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Here also a lot of leaves are damaged. There was a dry hot week in spring when there were still no leaves on the shrubs. Then there were times with storm and hail, flower stems broke off. Even the development of the berries is bad. Now there is regular water and temperatures around 20°C, but the damage is done. Some of the Trilliums are even already completely at rest.
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Thank you Carolyn and Herman. This is the first year that the leaves become like this and so I was a little concerned what it is. I should have watered these, but they grow too far for my hose.