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Title: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on February 28, 2021, 09:46:34 PM
My Corydalis are suddenly starting to emerge with the warmer weather. This Corydalis sewerzowii is very difficult to get a good photo of that shows the whole plant, but hopefully I've managed to convey the feel. I've put it outside with the recent sunny weather to stop it getting leggy and it seems to appreciate this with the flowers colouring up beautifully. There are two clones here and I have crossed them with the hope of getting seed.

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Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Pauli on March 01, 2021, 03:58:55 AM
Wonderful plant!
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Jan Jeddeloh on March 04, 2021, 04:50:53 AM
Damn that's gorgeous.  I hope you get seed of it.  It must be fiddly to hand pollinate.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Véronique Macrelle on March 04, 2021, 05:42:08 AM
so pretty !
outside, maybe an insect will.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on March 04, 2021, 08:02:33 PM
We'll see. I haven't seen any insects on it but I went around with a fine paint brush, shoving it into each flower (it reminded me of one of those wildlife films where guillemots are feeding their young). Once I got the knack it was fairly straightforward. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Andrew90 on March 06, 2021, 08:48:39 PM
Beautiful plant. Out of interest, where did you get the plants (or seeds) from? I've been on the look out for this!
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on March 06, 2021, 11:06:26 PM
Hi Andrew, I got this from Pitcairn Alpines. Buried Treasure also has some nice Corydalis in this group.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on March 07, 2021, 07:04:36 AM
Like all others have already said: a very beautiful Corydalis and special colour!
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Andrew90 on March 07, 2021, 05:05:44 PM
Thanks! I grow a few Corydalis species in the open garden, but haven't really had the facilities to tackle any of the Leontocoides types. I'm working on that!
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on March 08, 2021, 10:16:56 PM
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A nice C. solida, Penza Strain I think.

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'Beth Evans'

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C. wendelboi 'Abant Wine'. The camera struggled to capture the colour of this properly. It's a nice purple selection from Janis and seeds around for me.

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C. malkensis also seeds around and is usually the first of the woodlanders.

Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on March 08, 2021, 10:23:24 PM
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Some more C. malkensis, this time in the front garden. You can see some seedlings popping up. The mulch is the Christmas tree!

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C. solida 'Lentune Scarlet'

Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on March 09, 2021, 09:24:47 AM
Nice Corydalis, Tristan. C.wendelboi 'Abant Wine' is also one of my favourites, but it hasn't self seeded here. Once I got seeds from it and sowed them in pot, and from them most of the seedlings were similar to the mother plant but two were red! Very nice intense red, and they must be hybrids with red C.solida. Are your seedlings all similar to the mother plant?
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on March 09, 2021, 01:27:46 PM
Hi Leena, so far as I can tell yes, all the seedlings are similar to the parent. But I am not very precise when it comes to Corydalis so it's possible that some red seedlings have popped up - difficult to tell as I have also planted C. solida and malkensis in the same area. Whatever they are, they are all welcome. I have scattered Corydalis seed in some different parts of the garden so hopefully it will pop up in some more areas.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gail on March 15, 2021, 09:42:26 PM
Corydalis solida 'White Swallow'

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Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on March 21, 2021, 11:19:00 AM
Ooo that's lovely Gail!
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on March 21, 2021, 11:24:38 AM
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Corydalis 'Boyar' - thanks Leena!

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Corydalis seisumsiana
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: kris on March 21, 2021, 02:18:38 PM
Corydalis solida 'White Swallow'

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Nice pristine white one Gail. I have to wait long to see my corydalis blooming!!
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on March 21, 2021, 04:22:20 PM
You're welcome Tristan:). 'Boyar' is nice dark colour, at least when it grows here it is even darker than in your picture. It is a hybrid of C.kusnetzovii x C.solida and sterile, so it only increases with bulbs. I hope it will do well for you.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on March 21, 2021, 06:40:40 PM
Yes, the camera didn't quite capture the colour correctly - the colour is actually a bit darker.

It's a lovely thing, I hope it does well here.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gail on March 21, 2021, 08:48:51 PM
Corydalis solida ‘Purple Bird’
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Corydalis solida 'Schorl' - good deep colour
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Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Carolyn on March 21, 2021, 10:14:03 PM
Wow, Schorl is a brilliant colour. Is it really much darker than Purple Bird (which i have in flower just now)? Where did you get it? Rareplants seems to be the only stockist - and it is out of stock. :'(
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gail on March 22, 2021, 08:10:14 AM
Yes, definitely darker than Purple Bird (the photo of Purple Bird is probably a bit pinker than my eye says, but the Schorl one is fairly close to true). Mine did come from Rareplants.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Carolyn on March 22, 2021, 09:04:45 AM
Thanks, Gail.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Pauli on March 22, 2021, 03:29:46 PM
Corydalis schanginii and its ssp ainiae
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on March 22, 2021, 06:39:12 PM
Those are lovely Herbert, especially ainae.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on March 23, 2021, 05:02:50 PM
Gail 'Schorl' is really nice and dark, and stand out. I haven't heard of it before, is it pure C.solida?
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gail on March 23, 2021, 08:38:39 PM
Yes, introduced in Summer 2014. As described by Paul Christian, "An excellent, compact dark-flowered form bred by Dr A. Seisums."
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on March 24, 2021, 09:29:46 PM
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Corydalis ledebouriana


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Another go at photographing 'Boyar', I think this is a bit more representative though still not sure the camera has captured it.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on March 25, 2021, 06:47:11 AM
Yes, introduced in Summer 2014. As described by Paul Christian, "An excellent, compact dark-flowered form bred by Dr A. Seisums."

Thank you Gail:).

Another go at photographing 'Boyar', I think this is a bit more representative though still not sure the camera has captured it.

I think that is close to what it is, or even a bit darker in reality, but maybe the colour also depends on how much sun there is.. I don't know.
C.ledebouriana is pretty. I haven't tried it here thinking that it may be too cold..
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Andrew90 on March 28, 2021, 04:28:10 PM
Some great Corydalis here - 'Schorl' has a fantastic colour to it. Here's a few that are doing well for me at the moment.

Corydalis schanginii ainiae - I've had it for a couple of years, done much better this year than previously:
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Corydalis solida 'Turaco':
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Corydalis integra - this is from a bit earlier in the year (start of March):
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 :)

Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gail on April 02, 2021, 10:07:47 PM
Corydalis solida Crossbill
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I bought this one as Corydalis ornata ‘Blue Favourite’ but it doesn't look blue to me, more of a mauve colour.
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Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Andrew90 on April 03, 2021, 06:52:26 AM
I really like the bi-coloured flowers on Crossbill. I had a similar variety (who's name evades me) which disappeared, but a couple of seedlings have cropped up with similar colouring.

Hmm, the ornata doesn't look particularly blue: 'Lilac Favourite'?!
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on April 03, 2021, 09:54:16 AM
Love 'Crossbill' Gail. That's a super thing. Where did you get it?

'Blue Favourite' maybe would be better named 'Blue Rinse'  ;)
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gail on April 03, 2021, 11:14:24 AM
That was from Paul Christian Rare Plants - very easy to spend way too much money looking at his site!
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 08, 2021, 07:11:01 PM
The Corydalis season is just starting here (early, due to the summer-like weather).
Their colourful display is always a joy after a long winter.

A mixed patch of C. malkensis and C. solida - thanks to Leena :) which I like a lot.
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Corydalis caucasica 'Nadezdha' - my naming, chance seedlings from a batch of C. caucasica f. alba.
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Corydalis paczoskii
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Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Andrew90 on April 08, 2021, 07:16:29 PM
The mixed patch looks really good, a nice strong red at the back too.
'Nadezdha' looks great, is there a story behind the name?
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on April 09, 2021, 07:20:14 AM
Gabriela, your spring is full steam ahead! I'm glad you got at least some reddish ones from those seeds. :)
Also here purple/blueish ones dominate in seed grown Corydalis, even when seed is taken from red flowering plants.
I'm trying to move purple ones away from red Corydalis, but there are always some left, and with bees pollinating you never know.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 09, 2021, 06:32:27 PM
The mixed patch looks really good, a nice strong red at the back too.
'Nadezdha' looks great, is there a story behind the name?

Yes Andrew, not a story per se, but the name came to mind last year when I saw it flowering well in the ground in April (before that I had it in a pot). The Covid pandemic was just starting so I thought 'Hope' would be a good name.
Since the seeds came from Russia, I wanted to go with their name for hope = nadezdha; also for the reason that in my native tongue (Romanian) we also have 'nadejde' as one of the words for 'hope'.
So now you know :)

Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 09, 2021, 06:40:25 PM
Gabriela, your spring is full steam ahead! I'm glad you got at least some reddish ones from those seeds. :)
Also here purple/blueish ones dominate in seed grown Corydalis, even when seed is taken from red flowering plants.
I'm trying to move purple ones away from red Corydalis, but there are always some left, and with bees pollinating you never know.

Yes Leena, we had temp. around 20C for a while! Looking fwd to go back to 'spring' actually.
I have plenty of red Corydalis, in all shades, no worry. And there is a small patch of pure C. malkensis now (this was my goal actually).

From that mixed patch, the blue ones are incredible fragrant!!! I mean, REALLY fragrant. I have others but not like them.
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And some of my reds, which are spreading everywhere. If you try to separate them a bit after colors, the seedlings populations will be more true to color.
I sowed experimentally seeds from red ones and then planted them in a group and almost all are red. But of course, the bees and bumblebees will always have a word to say on this.
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Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on April 10, 2021, 07:40:22 AM
From that mixed patch, the blue ones are incredible fragrant!!! I mean, REALLY fragrant. I have others but not like them.

Interesting!
I haven't noticed scent here, but I will have to take some inside when they flower. Maybe in low temperatures they are not so fragrant.
All Corydalis are still in bud coming up waiting for warmer weather.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gail on April 10, 2021, 07:52:04 AM
I had a few mixed solidas potted up last year and gave one to a friend's son to pass on to his mum. He put it to his nose to smell the flower and I said "oh, they don't have a fragrance" (based obviously on a complete lack of testing!). But that one actually did have a lovely perfume. Once he'd gone I went round and sniffed all my others and couldn't find another one with a fragrance. I trying to resist the temptation to ask for that one back...
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on April 10, 2021, 08:04:35 AM
Now I really must try to go around sniffing Corydalis when they open!  :)
I have one C.solida from an old garden in Finland, and they are quite small, and in a different part of the garden than my bought C.solidas.
The other blue/purple ones are all originated from 10 bulbs I bought about 12 years ago from Janis and they were from Penza. They are bigger and have mostly larger flowers than the Finnish clone, and I have collected seeds from only those Penza strain plants.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Andrew90 on April 10, 2021, 08:05:39 AM
Gabriela -  great choice of name, thanks for sharing  :)
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gabriela on April 12, 2021, 07:20:43 PM
Now I really must try to go around sniffing Corydalis when they open!  :)
I have one C.solida from an old garden in Finland, and they are quite small, and in a different part of the garden than my bought C.solidas.
The other blue/purple ones are all originated from 10 bulbs I bought about 12 years ago from Janis and they were from Penza. They are bigger and have mostly larger flowers than the Finnish clone, and I have collected seeds from only those Penza strain plants.

You do that Leena! Others, less fragrant, are some of a regular raspberry color and a purple clump (which has bluish tones).
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And here is one more malkensis-solida mix, this time with few strong pinks - maybe you have a named cv. like them?
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Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on April 12, 2021, 07:33:12 PM
And here is one more malkensis-solida mix, this time with few strong pinks - maybe you have a named cv. like them?

I can't remember any more from which plants I took the seeds (and so what was growing near by), but I have pink 'Beth Evans' which could be the father. I know I haven't taken seeds from it.
Also in the Penza mix was one good pink, but somehow yours doesn't look quite like it, or I don't remember well.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Mariette on April 25, 2021, 12:11:36 PM
Yesterday I had to rescue my Corydalis marschalliana into the greenhouse to be able to harvest some seed. Our sparrows take a special interest in corydalis capsules, they already stripped the right stalk of them.

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Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on May 04, 2021, 05:27:56 PM
Mariette, that is a nice plant. Also here I rarely get seeds from C.marschalliana, maybe birds take them here, too.

Pictures of my Corydalis.
'George Baker'
'Beth Evans'
Corydalis wendelboi 'Abant Wine' almost smothered by Leucojum vernum seedlings, this year I must remember to rescue it!
Corydalis kuznetsovii
C.kuznetsovii x C.solida hybrid 'Drops of Claret'
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on May 04, 2021, 05:32:01 PM
Another 'George Baker', or actually there is somewhere among them the original GB, and then it has seeded so there are many seedlings and I can't tell anymore which one was the original plant.
The second picture is a seedling of 'George Baker', very nice also.

Originally when I bought the first red Corydalis, I thought that hopefully one day they would produce a lot of seedlings (red), and now that day has come. :)
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on May 09, 2021, 07:44:48 AM
Corydalis marschalliana, a very big plant, but for some reason I have never gotten seeds from it.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Mariette on May 09, 2021, 08:52:42 PM
Leena, Yours looks very different from what I got, doesn´t seem to be the same plant, what do You think? The racemes are longer and more upright, and the colouring isn´t what I would expect from C. marschalliana. My single plant sets seed very well, after I moved it to the greenhouse, I was able to harvest about a dozen.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on May 10, 2021, 06:50:22 AM
Mariette, you are right. They don't look the same!
Maybe there is a lot of variation in C.marschalliana? My plant in the picture was bought from Janis in 2013, and then I bought C.marschalliana from Bondarenko in 2016 which looks different (besides colour).
Here is another picture of Janis plant and then creamy coloured from Bondarenko, pictures yesterday.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Mariette on May 10, 2021, 11:30:44 AM
As far as I learnt from Bleeding Hearts, Corydalis and their Relatives by Tebbitt, Lidén and Zetterlund, Corydalis marschalliana is a yellow-flowered tetraploid of C. cava from Crimea and not recognized as a species. As I was interested to grow a yellow-flowered corydalis, I´m pleased with what I received from Augis Bulbs, especially, as it sets seed. Recently I ordered another one from Bondarenko, who describes the plant as yellow-flowered, too.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on May 11, 2021, 07:04:19 AM
Mariette, I will look closely my plants today and take more pictures. :)
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on May 11, 2021, 05:48:19 PM
About my pinkish C.marschalliana. When I bought it in 2013 I had written down from Janis's catalogue the following:
"This is a Caucasian form from Kabardino-Balkaria, which differs from the typical form in having lilac tint in the upper flowers. Easy, but must be planted immediately and naturalizes here. Can be slightly variable."
He also talks in his book Buried Treasures about a form purpureo-lilacina from North Caucasus. According to his book the typical form of C.marschalliana is yellow and is lumped together with C.cava, but they never hybridized, so that is why he has kept the name C.marschalliana.

Whatever my plant is, it is a really beautiful, but why it hardly ever produces seeds is a mystery.

I have also C.marschalliana 'Crimea', bought from Augis in 2015, and it is also a very beautiful plant. Some years I have gotten seeds from it but not always, but it is a very early flowerer here so cold weather may be a reason why there are not always seeds. Two years ago I got a good crop of seeds, and there are even self sown seedlings around it from that year.
First picture is when it started to flower in mid April and the second was taken yesterday.
C.marschalliana 'Crimea' is different then C.marschalliana Bondarenko though both are pale yellow.

I have had C.cava now for 13 years. The first corm was bought also from Janis, and it flowered couple of years and then one winter it vanished. Luckily there were self sown seedlings and I now have several big plants of it. It is a very nice dark blue/purple flowering plant, but the flower spikes are not as massive as in my C.marschalliana.
C.cava Alba was bought from Augis in 2011 and like C.cava it produces lot of seeds every year. It is a bit smaller plant than my C.cava
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on May 11, 2021, 05:55:27 PM
Here are comparaison pictures of the leaves.
In the first picture the plants are from the right:
C.cava, C.marschalliana Ruksans, C.marschalliana Bondarenko and in the most left C.marschalliana 'Crimea'
Second picture C.cava with more divided leaflets
Third picture C.marschalliana 'Crimea' with more entire leaf lobes.
Fourth picture C.marchalliana R which looks more like intermediate of the first two.
Fifth picture there is C.cava on the left and C.cava Alba leaf on the right.

Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 11, 2021, 11:42:28 PM
Very nice C. marschalliana Leena!
I also have 2 years old seedlings planted in the ground last summer and they showed huge leaves (the rabbit was particularly excited about them :)
 I look fwd to the next spring to see them flowering.

Here is what I know: C. marschalliana is actually recognized as a subspecies of C. cava and is indeed a tetraploid.
While C. cava is distributed in Europe (main color is purple), C. cava ssp. marschalliana grows wild only in SE Europe to Caucasus and can have flowers in different colors.

I also read somewhere that the tuber is not hollow like in cava, but this is something which needs verifying. Maybe next spring I'll dig up a seedling to see if it is true.

On the inaturalist website there are many pictures taken in the wild (with locations):
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=any&taxon_id=126194
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 11, 2021, 11:50:02 PM
The Corydalis seeds are ready so I looked more closely at some of them, and in proves that the very fragrant Corydalis I shown, with a very dense inflorescence, is not solida, but C. cava or a hybrid - taking in consideration the entire bracts.
Maybe a hybrid with your purple C. cava Leena? or who knows. I would try to separate the tuber, it would be so worthy to multiply it.
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Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on May 12, 2021, 01:24:07 PM
Interesting Gabriela. Not sure I completely buy that it's a hybrid - some of the lower bracts in your photo are slightly toothed. Maybe it's intraspecific variation? Some of my red C. solida have very similar looking bracts.

Also if it is a hybrid, there could be other candidates other than cava. Looks like it's setting seed anyway, will be interesting to see what comes up.

Best wishes, Tristan
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 12, 2021, 06:10:37 PM
Interesting Gabriela. Not sure I completely buy that it's a hybrid - some of the lower bracts in your photo are slightly toothed. Maybe it's intraspecific variation? Some of my red C. solida have very similar looking bracts.

Also if it is a hybrid, there could be other candidates other than cava. Looks like it's setting seed anyway, will be interesting to see what comes up.
Best wishes, Tristan

You don't have to buy it Tristan, I am not selling  :D

This was a follow up conversation because I first thought to be a C. solida specimen. If you read my post careful, you'll notice that I said "maybe" and "who knows"....all I care is that is the most fragrant Corydalis I've ever had.

My speculation of being a hybrid is based on: the bracts, yes, some of the lower ones are a bit toothed but the uppers are entire, like C. cava, C. cava ssp. marschalliana and C. caucasica have. Corydalis solida never shows entire bracts (if you have some like that they are not pure solida).
Also on the dense inflorescence, very similar with C. marschalliana. It also has to be from the species that Leena has in the garden. But again, who knows....
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Tristan_He on May 12, 2021, 07:31:19 PM
You don't have to buy it Tristan, I am not selling  :D

That's too bad Gabriela! Let me know when you are, it's a lovely Corydalis, whatever it is.  ;)
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on May 12, 2021, 08:01:24 PM
I sniffed my Corydalis when they started to flower in April, and there was no scent, not that I noticed. Then the weather was cooler, but now today when it was  +25, I smelled Corydalis again and true, the one type (which I call Big Blue) has the most lovely fragrance, something like lilacs I think. None of the other Corydalis here have that kind of fragrance. Maybe the fragrance comes when it is warm enough, but still it is only that one type that has that fragrance.

It derives from the original 10 bulbs of C.solida Penza strain I bought from Janis in 2008. Sometime in maybe 2012 or 2013 I noticed one clump of C.solida which was bigger and had more flowers than others (almost hyacinth-like), and it was blue (purplish blue), and started to flower a bit later than other C.solida, but the flowering overlaps.  I divided that clump and have it growing now in two places. And it seems to have similar offspring! When a friend was here two weeks ago, she showed some self sown seedlings and asked if I had planted Big Blue also there,  but no I hadn't. They were seedling and so similar that she thought they were the same. And today I sniffed also them (or what was left of their flowers in this heat) and all of them had fragrance, but none of other blueish purple solidas (or reds or pinks).

I can't remember from what plants I collected the seeds to Gabriela, but there may have been also seeds from BB, or it is the father for your seedlings.

I have never read of heard that C.cava could hybridize with C.solida, but of course that doesn't mean they can't. You would think the offspring is sterile, but my BB plant is fertile and sets seeds.
If that kind of cross would be possible, you would expect to have it for instance in Swedish gardens/nature where C.cava and C.solida grow more than here.

At the time when I first noticed Big Blue, I had only penza solidas and C.cava, if I remember correctly. I would think it is possible that type was in penza strain, and just popped out here. Penza strain is very variable, there are all colours in it and as I understand most of Janis's reds or other special colours came from that strain (I can't remember now if he had any blue named plant, but the ones I bought in 2008 were a nameless mix). I will try to dig up photos of Big Blue, it is now almost over, but I have photographed it in previous years.

Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gail on May 12, 2021, 08:36:26 PM
I was looking at the RarePlants site;
Apparently
Corydalis caucasica - dense honey-scented spikes
Corydalis incisa alba CH.821 - strongly scented of carnations
Corydalis solida Linnet - a delicious, light, sweet scent
I will let you know in due course...
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gail on May 14, 2021, 08:10:44 PM
Corydalis turtschaninovii ‘Eric the Red’
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Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on May 15, 2021, 04:53:58 PM
Eric the Red has been one of the best blue bulbous corydalis here, even though it hasn't multiplied but at least stayed alive for more than five years now. :)

Earlier I wrote about my pinkish C.marschalliana that I haven't gotten seeds from it. However yesterday I was weeding near it and saw seedlings that must be from it, in the middle of the first picture.

Then a picture C.bracteata 'Marina'. In litterature it should be lighter colour than normal C.bracteata, and in previous years I have even started to question if they are the same, but this year it is clear that 'Marina' starts flowering the same yellow as normal bracteata, but fades during flowering. Now it is quite pale yellow!

Two sterile red hybrids, 'Cherry Lady' and a bit more compact (=smaller) 'Red Girl'. They are the same kind of hybrids as 'Boyar' but flower later and of course different colour.

The last picture is of my own grown seedlings ex C.wendelboi 'Abant Wine' and most of the seedlings are similar to the mother plant, maybe quite not so dark, but two of the seedlings were good red, and I think C.wendelboi had crossed with red C.solida. Leaves of these plants are like C.wendelboi.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Mariette on May 16, 2021, 04:10:33 PM
Leena, You grow a wonderful collection of corydalis! Unfortunately, they tend to be lost to rodents in my garden, which is why I more or less confine myself to those which self-seed sufficiently.
Also, in the milder parts of our country, many species of corydalis appear to miss a cold winter rest and won´t grow if it´s not cold and dry enough during winter. Therefore I failed to grow such beauties like C. ornata and related ones.
I grew many selections of Corydalis solida in pots after receiving them and had a chance to test their perfume if there was one. Many of them don´t smell, but ´Cantata´, for instance, had a strong scent reminding me of lilac, and incisa had a wonderful scent, too.
Corydalis cava shows many variations in size and colour, a mix of white and lilac ones grows in many woods over here.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Carolyn on May 16, 2021, 06:21:52 PM
Beautiful woodland scenes, Mariette.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Gabriela on May 16, 2021, 07:15:19 PM
Your spring advances very nice Leena! I managed to dig out the fragrant Corydalis and snapped a not too good picture; the point is that the tuber didn't resemble the ones
of C. solida.

Wonderful Mariette! I hope I will have the same Corydalis scenes in my garden many years from now.
Title: Re: Tuberous Corydalis 2021
Post by: Leena on May 17, 2021, 09:14:20 AM
I grew many selections of Corydalis solida in pots after receiving them and had a chance to test their perfume if there was one. Many of them don´t smell, but ´Cantata´, for instance, had a strong scent reminding me of lilac.

Mariette, that is interesting! I have also 'Cantata', but I didn't sniff them because other reds were scentless. Next year I must try to see if they have scent here.
It seems that the scent comes only when the weather is warm enough, that is what I discovered this year.

There are voles and mice also here  :(, and it seems I have lost some Corydalis to them (or to winter weather), like a very well grown clump of C.turtschaninovii. I have seedlings from them from last year so that is good. Why is it that always the most precious ones are lost to voles!

Gabriela, it is interesting about the tuber or your fragrant bulbs. I will dig up mine later in May and see what they are like.
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