Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
General Subjects => Alpines => Topic started by: Stone Rider on January 11, 2010, 10:16:57 PM
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A PORTRAIT OF MORAVIAN SEED COLLECTOR
I think that western rock gardeners have some (different) experiences with the seed of three Czech seed collectors (Josef Jurášek, Vojtěch Holubec and Josef Halda). My intention is to uncover relatively young (47) professional gardener, nurseryman and seed collector Mojmír (read Moymir) Pavelka from Northern
Moravia. I plan to show you some plants he photographed and some of his last introductions.
When the Brits John Watson and Jim Archibald stopped to operate in Turkey (1980´s), there was a gap in the market and it was filled from unknown collectors from Czech Republic. Later they enlarge their fields of interest into Caucasus Mts., Central Asia, Himalayas and Southern Europe. Seed collecting is terrible risky job in unknown terrain with unknown flowers and unknown weather. It is gambling and very often you are the loser because of bad action of weather, goats, sheep and police. We must admire this clan of fit people (famous Reginald Farrer was not too fit in Burma) and thanks them for bringing new treasures into cultivation.
Mojmír Pavelka (see his advert as EUROSEEDS) very often runs his expedition with Josef Jurášek and they form good brave team of enthusiast and explorers. Mojmír is more precise with determination of new plants. I remember that Mojmír studied every winter Flora of Turkey to know where to go.
Two days ago I travelled to Moravia to get new photographs from Mojmír for Czech Bulletin Skalničky. Some pictures are so outstanding that I decided to show them with help of my personal editor Maggie to your circle.
Ali Botush Mts. (Slavyanka Mts.) with Mt. Carev Vrch , Bulgaria
Daphne velenovskyi f. alba (rare albino in the garden)
Centaurea parilica (form from Carev Vrch 2100m, Ali Botush)
Dianthus microlepis ssp. degeniii, Mt. Vichren, Pirin Mts.
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Well, for Heaven's sake don't stop there ZZ. Having whetted our appetites you must continue to show pictures and tell us more about this collector and his beautiful plants. We are all waiting with baited breathe, and no doubt with credit cards at the ready.
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Well, for Heaven's sake don't stop there ZZ. Having whetted our appetites you must continue to show pictures and tell us more about this collector and his beautiful plants. We are all waiting with baited breathe, and no doubt with credit cards at the ready.
I will do my best. Thanks for your support. Your old friend Zdenek
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Happy to spot a pic of the Alibotush region - renowned for the occurence of Viola delphinantha! Zdenek, Thank you for showing!
Gerd
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I have grown many good plants from mojmir, his seed always has good germination. Have a look at his own website, his pictures of what he is offered to eat are unusual to say the least. www.pavelkaalpines.cz
Susan
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Happy to spot a pic of the Alibotush region - renowned for the occurence of Viola delphinantha! Zdenek, Thank you for showing!
Gerd The Viola delphinantha from this region has very red and long spurs. I collected it last year in early July down the bottom of showed limestone canyon
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The Bulgarian plants were photographed in 2008. This year Mojmír visited Spain and I will start with his pictures from the limestone massif Picos de Europa. The yellow colour of low Daphne laureola ssp. philippy is unusual.
Picos de Europa Mts.
Gentiana occidentalis
Daphne laureola ssp. philippi
Draba dedeana
Silene acaulis
Saxifraga aretioides
Matthiola fruticulosa
Thymelaea sp.
Narcissus asturiensis
Picos de Europa with animals
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The relatively low mountains towards Central Spain are not well known. Mojmír photographed at Teruel Mts and Sierra Cantabrica, quite nice plants. Geranium cinereum ssp. cinereum with deep rose flowers is desirable. Convolvulus lineatus is the lowest form.
Geranium cinereum ssp. cinereum
Petrocoptis glaucifolia
Convolvulus lineatus
Globularia nana
Globularia velutina
Polygala alpina
Aster sp.
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Thanks to Susan Band that we have the address (www.pavelkaalpines.cz) of the enormous Seed List with basic information about offered plants. Some of them like Silene bolanthoides or Linum boissieri (I helped to introduce them from Kaz Daglari, Turkey) are superb indeed. The content itself shows the terribly great range of operation of this Moravian. Somewhere over the big Spanish rainbow (the secret place) Mojmír discovered one ridge at elevation 1700-1900 m, where was a colony of the top rock garden flax Linum suffruticosum in very dwarf form (500 m lower this flax was more usual size-15 cm tall). He would like to go back there in the right time and provide us with the seed of this Spanish beauty with orange buds.
Linum suffruticosum , cushion
Linum suffruticosum, detail of more open plant
Linum suffruticosum, very dense and flat specimen
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Local blue flax is common; some forms are lower with larger flowers. Mojmír is proud for his introducing of many perennial species of the genus Phlomis. Every specialist tries to grow shrubby Viola cazorlensis from the limestones somewhere above olive oil village Cazorla. This Viola is not fully saxatile like V. delphinantha and is able to run in mineral soil in a cooler crevice. Mojmír grows it in loamy gritty soil in his tufa outcrop (some year it has fertile seed). Convolvulus boissieri is the best European saxatile species with silver leaves, slightly different in the Balkan Peninsula.
Linum narbonense
Phlomis lychnitis
Sierra Cazorla, village and limestone cliffs
Viola cazorlensis
Convolvulus boissieri
Halimium atriplicifolium
Paeonia brotheri
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Wonderful photos, am enjoying them very much.
Unfortunately the Geranium cinereum ssp. cinereum and Globularia nana seeds are not listed. :'( :'( :'(
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Truly amazing pictures ZZ !!
So many rare and less known plants ! :o :o :o
Thanks very much for showing ! And please go ahead and post many many more !
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"Very good form of Matthiola fruticulosa"
It is excellent. My plant is shown below
Thanks for lovely photos ZZ
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Plant selection from big mountain Sierra Nevada is the last dance in the fresh Spanish rhythm. The highest ridges are formed from something looking like crystalline schist and there you can see the real miniature alpine (suitable for tufa cultivation) called Ptilotrichum purpureum. I grow myself in my limy soil the hedgehogs of Erinacea anthyllis. A real miracle is the shocking red Anthyllis vulneraria ssp. atlantis and the local spring Gentiana is distinct from G. verna.
Mt. Veleta, Sierra Nevada Mts.
Ptilotrichum purpureum
Draba aizoides
Ranunculus angustifolius ssp. uniflorus
Erinacea anthyllis
Anthyllis vulneraria ssp. atlantis
Gentiana sierrae
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Amazing pictures, so many I would love to have. Thanks for brightening up my dull day.
Angie :)
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Do you have pics of Silene bolanthoides and Linum boissieri? I have them both as 1 year old plants and I intrigued what they will look like.
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Here are photographs of the second quality from Turkisch source,
but they show well the habitus of new plants for our
Bulgarian friend. ZZ
Linum boissieri
Silene bolanthoides
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Some stunning things there. I especially like that last Silene.
Mark, does your Matthiola have a pleasant perfume like the old fashioned single and double garden stock?
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i've been working on an order from this fantastic list for some weeks!
and with great pain was finally able to bring it down to a reasonable number, and have confirmed by email, now i just need to send off payment!
one of my final selections was a Matthiola-montanum, described as having brown flowers, which i couldnt resist :)
mark's picture gave me a better idea of what it might look like...
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This Matthiola anchonifolium, Cohen. Also brown-flowered and also from Mojmir ;)
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Here are photographs of the second quality from Turkisch source, but they show well the habitus of new plants for our Bulgarian friend. ZZ
Linum boissieri
Silene bolanthoides
Thanks, ZZ. It is always good to see habitat pictures :) My L.boissieri seems more hirsute, but the leaves are right. The Silene is a stunner- I shall look forward to that one blooming!
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Beautiful series of plants growing in their habitats, where most of us are not likely to see them "live".
Plant selection from big mountain Sierra Nevada is the last dance in the fresh Spanish rhythm. The highest ridges are formed from something looking like crystalline schist and there you can see the real miniature alpine (suitable for tufa cultivation) called Ptilotrichum purpureum. I grow myself in my limy soil the hedgehogs of Erinacea anthyllis. A real miracle is the shocking red Anthyllis vulneraria ssp. atlantis and the local spring Gentiana is distinct from G. verna.
Ptilotrichum purpureum
To me seems the Ptilotrichum purpureum a totally different plant from what I know in culture??
Looks more a bit succulent.
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Zdenek,
Thanks for the information about Viola delphinantha - also for showing the Sierra de Cazorla and of course for all these stunning pics!"
Gerd
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To me seems the Ptilotrichum purpureum a totally different plant from what I know in culture??
Looks more a bit succulent.
Are you thinking of Ptilotrichum spinosum 'Purpureum', Luit? I remember this one making a bushier plant with smaller flowers.
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Thank you, ZZ, for raising consciousness here for Mojmír Pavelka---he has always been my favorite of the East European collectors (for various reasons, some of which you have mentioned), but also for his excellent seed quality, which, in the end, is what matters.
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To me seems the Ptilotrichum purpureum a totally different plant from what I know in culture??
Looks more a bit succulent.
Are you thinking of Ptilotrichum spinosum 'Purpureum', Luit? I remember this one making a bushier plant with smaller flowers.
Yes Simon, but just found out, there is a Ptilotrichum purpureum which should be kept in the alpine house.
And therefore different from Pt. spinosum Purpureum.
Rather confusing!
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Hi Zdenek,
greetings from Roztoky. Is this dapne velenovsky f alba in cultivation? Soon will be good time for graftings...
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Welcome Jiri, to the SRGC Forum. As always it's great to have another poster from those Eastern European countries where so many fabulous plants are at home. I hope you will find much to interest you here.
I'm interested in your name of alpine parrot, as we, in New Zealand, thought we had the only alpine parrot in the world. ;D He is the kea (Nestor notabilis) and is a VERY NAUGHTY BIRD, though beautiful. Perhaps you know him already?
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Welcome Jiri.... it is good to have this alpine parrot talk at last! ;)
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Thanks for kind words :). I was so impressed with ZZ to be so active in forum and I have to confirm it is great source of information. Also I can see so many names from Czech Alpine conference in Beroun in 2005 from the whole world. Re Alpine parrot - I saw some beautiful pictures from NZ. In fact my Czech name Papousek is equal to parrot. In a future I intend to create website with this name.
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This Matthiola anchonifolium, Cohen. Also brown-flowered and also from Mojmir ;)
thanks simon--brown flowers, and its supposed to have whitish leaves, so it sounds good to me...
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Hi Jiri,
How nice to have you at the forum, we look forwards to many interesting
contributions from you.
Rudi
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Maggie, you would like Jiri garden, lots of Rhodies
Susan
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Hi Zdenek,
greetings from Roztoky. Is this dapne velenovsky f alba in cultivation? Soon will be good time for graftings...
Too many people are asking for it and Mojmir has relatively small plant in his tufa boulder. It is always very risky (infection) to let somebody to cut body of your dear sensitive daphne. Bohemian
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Mojmir Pavelka's seedlist always seems to be mentioned in passing in other threads, so I though I'd renew this thread with the message that his seedlist is available now : http://www.pavelkaalpines.cz/ (http://www.pavelkaalpines.cz/)
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Maggi, is this the list which has come to my Inbox as euroseeds? But I can't open it, a docx document, rather than doc. I was going to ask that someone send the list on to me. Last year I tried to get it too, but no joy.
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Yes, it will be., Lesley. Email it to me and I'll convert it for you to something you can open.
Might take me a while - my email is "having a moment right now " - just what I need at seed exchange time!
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Thank you, thank you, thank you Maggi. I've forwarded the original email from euroseeds, to Ian and Margaret Young. So sorry to add to your burden at seed time, but you know how we all get desperate and worried we've been forgotten, if something's 2 minutes late. :)
Thanks too for the info re the online list. I'll get that sorted tonight I hope, following our last OAGG meeting for the year, a trip to the Botanic Gardens to visit the new, high tech propagation house - the last word apparently, in the very latest so hopefully it will all be good for those at the DBG.
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Lesley - my email is still down - I'll private message you another address to send it to.
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Maggi, is this the list which has come to my Inbox as euroseeds? But I can't open it, a docx document, rather than doc. I was going to ask that someone send the list on to me. Last year I tried to get it too, but no joy.
Lesley, you only need to delete the 'x' in the extension docx and it will open.