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Title: Bulb Log 12
Post by: annew on March 24, 2010, 10:57:52 PM
Ian, the photos in this bulb log are particularly good - the close ups of the frit flowers are so sharp, and what can I say about the pot of Narcissus x susannae - worth a Forrest medal surely!
Also, I wanted you to know that I did good missionary work for the bulb log at our hotel 1800m up in the Atlas Mountains while we were away. The other tourers were forcibly made to look at that weeks log on the laptop after dinner! One was actually a SRGC member WHO HAD NEVER BEEN ON THE FORUM!!!!
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 25, 2010, 01:01:25 AM
One was actually a SRGC member WHO HAD NEVER BEEN ON THE FORUM!!!!

Unbelievable!!! ;D
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: mark smyth on March 25, 2010, 01:02:20 PM
I meet many people who know about the SRGC but dont know about the forum or say "I have nothing to say"
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Maggi Young on March 25, 2010, 01:17:10 PM
Reading the Forum and not wanting to contribute is one thing... not knowing about its existence is quite another! Some folk may have no internet access , of course, but for anyone who does to be unaware of the WEALTH of info and knowledge in the website and Forum is a great pity.
I frankly shudder to think of the actual volume of  photos that can be found in the Forum , giving details of cultivation and habitat around the world.... if that's not worth knowing about and seeking out, then I really don't know what kind of bubble some folks are living in; it seems some have little curiosity to seek and discover in this medium.  :-\
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: angie on March 25, 2010, 01:24:27 PM
They really don't know what they are missing here, so many nice people, so much knowledge and most of all so much fun.
Ian and Maggi that Frit house looks so exciting at the moment, cant wait to see it again.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: TheOnionMan on March 25, 2010, 01:30:36 PM
Reading the Forum and not wanting to contribute is one thing... not knowing about its existence is quite another! Some folk may have no internet access , of course, but for anyone who does to be unaware of the WEALTH of info and knowledge in the website and Forum is a great pity.
I frankly shudder to think of the actual volume of  photos that can be found in the Forum , giving details of cultivation and habitat around the world.... if that's not worth knowing about and seeking out, then I really don't know what kind of bubble some folks are living in; it seems some have little curiosity to seek and discover in this medium.  :-\

Interesting to hear this, in the context of now trying to get NARGS members to start using the NARGS Forum.  At the NARGS Eastern Winter Study Weekend last weekend, I ended up giving a live demo of the NARGS Forum, another member demo'd the NARGS Wiki resources, and we're slowly getting a few more members to come take a look.  For every old friend I ran into that weekend, I would enthusiastically prompt them about using the forum, yet I sensed reticence about even trying, with responses like "I don't have time for that".  Even so, such responses did not dampen my enthusiasm, as in the past 5+ months of cruising the pages of SRGC, I have learned so much, and see such fantastic plants, expressed with such knowledge and experience... a tremendous resource.  And since the forum is basically a giant database, I am now using the search function here more and more (thanks Maggi 8) ::) :o).  And just so that you know, I also heartily recommended SRGC in addition to NARGS. :D
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Maggi Young on March 25, 2010, 01:43:15 PM
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responses like "I don't have time for that".
Oh, yeah, I hear that a lot, too!
Speaking for myself, I'd rather spend some sit-down relax with a coffee time reading the Forum than getting all the awful news from the papers or another tired TV programme.... but I'm sure these "too busy" people never have time to relax in that way..... wonder if they ever manage to read a book? I don't.... I'm too busy!  ;)
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Gerry Webster on March 25, 2010, 04:27:22 PM
Ian - a very beautiful edition of the Bulb Log. Is the very dark form of E. dens-canis the same as the clone which is available commercially under the name 'Old Aberdeen'?
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: mark smyth on March 25, 2010, 04:46:49 PM
Ian, your Scoliopus are way ahead of mine
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: ashley on March 25, 2010, 05:04:10 PM
Thanks for another great log Ian 8)

Your F. chitralensis looks magnificent, and photographed so well.  Presumably it's self-incompatible.
Does your F. minuta divide?  Mine looks similar & returns to delight me every year but steadfastly refuses to multiply.  Maybe I must take a deep breath and break the bulb in two ???

Regarding the challenge of capturing the amazing colour of F. armena, last weekend while looking at some Erythronium dens-canis 'Snowflake' in the garden it struck me that nice as the flowers are the leaves are even better.  In the sunlight their brown patches sparkled with crystals of 'old gold' :o :o  Impossible (at least for me) to photograph.
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 25, 2010, 07:57:10 PM
Well I don't have time for the Forum either but has that ever stopped me? The thing is, we have time for what we want to do and none for what we'd rather avoid, so the "no time" excuse is rubbish. Has anyone seen that repellent "Ellen" on TV? an American person with a sad life, who says reading a book is boring. No, I don't watch the programme (no time!) but saw that little gem in a promo before the news.
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: TheOnionMan on March 25, 2010, 08:54:21 PM
Well I don't have time for the Forum either but has that ever stopped me? The thing is, we have time for what we want to do and none for what we'd rather avoid, so the "no time" excuse is rubbish. Has anyone seen that repellent "Ellen" on TV? an American person with a sad life, who says reading a book is boring. No, I don't watch the programme (no time!) but saw that little gem in a promo before the news.

You are speaking no doubt about Ellen DeGeneres, an intelligent, charming, witty personality that I have followed for many years, hardly what I would call repellent... them's fightin words >:(  First and foremost, she is a comedienne, employing a subtle form of sarcasm with canny deft delivery, the point of which can be missed by those who do not watch and listen to her carefully, or who don't "get" this type of humor.  I don't know what the news promo said, but knowing Ellen's style, I would say the comment about reading a book is boring, she's "putting the viewer on". 

Second point, there can literally be situations and schedules whereby one truly does not have the time to do the things one wants to do.  I dearly love spending time researching and learning about plants, spending time on a forum such as this, but I can say with certainty, that prior to my being laid-off, I left for work at 6:30 AM each morning and got home at 8:00 to 8:30 PM each evening (3 hours commuting each day).  I can't tell you how many times I'd read something on other venues like Alpine-L or PBS (Pacific Bulb Society), then jot a few notes with the intent of researching and posting back, but invariably the day, weeks and months would fly by.

So, nuff said, let's get back to bulbs. :D

To make up for the off-topicness of this post, here is some bulb eye-candy, Juno Iris species and cultivars in May 2008.  In 2009, deer came into the yard and ate all to the ground.  They're just sprouting again now, it remains to be seen if the clumps were weakened by being feasted upon, and whether my apparently poor choice of a groundcover companion plant, Zauschneria garrettii, will also adversely affect them.  More to come.
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Maggi Young on March 25, 2010, 09:57:48 PM
As someone who has a garden that is pretty well inaccessible to deer, and who has (meantime ) won the rabbit battle, I don't know quite how I would cope with having fine clumps of any plant, let alone such beautiful Iris, chomped off by marauding deer.....not well, I fear..... :-X :'(
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: TheOnionMan on March 25, 2010, 10:13:29 PM
As someone who has a garden that is pretty well inaccessible to deer, and who has (meantime ) won the rabbit battle, I don't know quite how I would cope with having fine clumps of any plant, let alone such beautiful Iris, chomped off by marauding deer.....not well, I fear..... :-X :'(

The deer only come through the garden a few times each season, up through the woods behind my property, munching enroute to some other wooded area.  When the juno iris were munched to the ground, it left the tight sheathing leaf bases totally exposed and catching rain water, rotting the bases... I thought they were all goners, but they are sprouting again now.  More devastating might be the Zauschneria I planted, much too deeply-rooted and aggressive to be an effective commingler; must try and extract the mess after flowering this year, unless of course the deer come again.  Still battling a woodchuck and rabbit, these recently moved into the area the last 2 years after 20 years without such pests.
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 26, 2010, 08:58:31 AM
Wow!!! That applies to both Mark's posts, above!
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: David Nicholson on March 26, 2010, 09:31:22 AM
As someone who has a garden that is pretty well inaccessible to deer, and who has (meantime ) won the rabbit battle, I don't know quite how I would cope with having fine clumps of any plant, let alone such beautiful Iris, chomped off by marauding deer.....not well, I fear..... :-X :'(

I would be eating plent of venison ;D
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Ian Y on March 26, 2010, 02:34:13 PM
Ian, the photos in this bulb log are particularly good - the close ups of the frit flowers are so sharp, and what can I say about the pot of Narcissus x susannae - worth a Forrest medal surely!
Also, I wanted you to know that I did good missionary work for the bulb log at our hotel 1800m up in the Atlas Mountains while we were away. The other tourers were forcibly made to look at that weeks log on the laptop after dinner! One was actually a SRGC member WHO HAD NEVER BEEN ON THE FORUM!!!!

Thank you Anne, I used a tripod and an aperture of f22 for the Frit pictures hence the sharpness.
To get a Forrest for the Narcissus would be great but I will have to get a bigger potfull and I have drifted away from that just now but I agree it is worth a FM.

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Ian - a very beautiful edition of the Bulb Log. Is the very dark form of E. dens-canis the same as the clone which is available commercially under the name 'Old Aberdeen'?

Gerry, no the one I showed is even darker. I got 'Old Aberdeen' many years ago from one of the well known bulb sellers and was never very impressed by its so called darkness. I have a number of forms that are darker -it may be I was sent the wrong thing.

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Your F. chitralensis looks magnificent, and photographed so well.  Presumably it's self-incompatible.
Does your F. minuta divide?  Mine looks similar & returns to delight me every year but steadfastly refuses to multiply.  Maybe I must take a deep breath and break the bulb in two

Ashley F. minuta does divide for me and I it makes some rice grains - not to the extent of some other species but enough to give a steady increase.
I have had what looks like viable seed on F. chitralensis but have not had a great success with germination less than 5% I would estimate.

Mark, as our Scoliopus is seed raised and we have lots of it we can have plants in flower from December until May.
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Andrew on April 02, 2010, 04:36:59 PM
Ian, in one of the photos there appears to be a blue crocus behind the main subject of the photo (a yellow flower I do not have the log open at the moment), is this correct ?
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Maggi Young on April 02, 2010, 05:39:29 PM
I think you mean this photo, Andrew?
It is Crocus veluchensis.... or a hybrid thereof
Edit by maggi: sorry lost the plot there... it is a Crocus pelistericus!
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Ragged Robin on April 02, 2010, 05:40:19 PM
Ian, your Spring garden looks wonderful carpeted with early flowering bulbs amongst mossy rocks.  Corydalis solida is up in the wild meadows and grassy banks here and looks really pretty but each plant is a single one white or variations of pink.  I am hoping some will self seed in our garden but so far not and I' wondering whether I should try Corydalis malkensis if I can source them.  What you say is so true about these early flowers being equally important in bringing a welcome early boost to insects and butterflies.
Title: Re: Bulb Log 12
Post by: Maggi Young on April 05, 2010, 11:23:40 AM
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From Andrew: ..... in one of the photos there appears to be a blue crocus behind the main subject of the photo (a yellow flower I do not have the log open at the moment), is this correct ?


It is Crocus veluchensis.... or a hybrid thereof
Edit by maggi: sorry lost the plot there... it is a Crocus pelistericus!

Apologies.... I realise I managed to confuse myself.... it is, of course, Crocus pelistericus and I have  now corrected my earlier post.
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