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Title: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on May 13, 2007, 01:09:46 AM
Hello,
Some picture of different species growing now in the nature.

Muscari comosum
 Hyacinthoides hispanica
 Polygonatum odoratum
 Scilla verna
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on May 13, 2007, 06:33:42 PM
more,

Asphodelus-albus
 Dactylorrhiza-insularis-2
 Orchis-morio
 Serapias-lingua
 serapias-lingua
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Maggi Young on May 13, 2007, 06:43:51 PM
It is very cold and damp here today, Rafa, so your pictures are even more welcome than usual! Thank you!
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Post by: Anthony Darby on May 13, 2007, 11:49:42 PM
Dry here today so some tidying up done in the garden. Pleasant way to unwind, though. Beautiful flowers and that's a nice form of Orchis morio Rafa.
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Post by: Maggi Young on May 14, 2007, 01:34:41 PM
and look at the number of Serapias in the meadow.... lovely!
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Post by: Anthony Darby on May 14, 2007, 02:58:51 PM
Never managed to see serapias in the wild, so that is fascinating to see. Allows us to relate our pots of plants to what they really look like in nature. Not sure a large pot of grass with a few serapias would be appreciated at a show, regardless of how natural it looked? ::)
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Post by: Maggi Young on May 14, 2007, 03:19:19 PM
I suspect not, Anthony, though you could try it in the "planted container/garden class!!
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Post by: John Forrest on May 15, 2007, 12:07:51 PM
Lovely Orchid pics Rafa
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Post by: Rafa on May 30, 2007, 01:50:53 AM
Fantastic spring time to us!. Here some orchidaceae to make you happy

 Orchis-purpurea
 Orchis-purpurea-2
 Aceras-anthopophorum
 Aceras-and-Spider
 Oprhys-lutea
 Ophrys-sphegodes-incubacea
 Ophrys-sphegodes-typical
 Ophrys-apifera
 Limodorum-trabutianum
 Ophrys-sphegodes-incubacea pink

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Post by: Rafa on May 30, 2007, 01:57:27 AM
and the last


 O.incubacea-and-Spider
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Post by: hadacekf on May 30, 2007, 09:23:46 AM
Rafa,
Terrific pics particularly the last, I am happy :)
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Post by: Paddy Tobin on May 30, 2007, 09:38:52 AM
Rafa,

Fabulous photographs, great plants, startling spiders.

Yes, you have made me happy also.

Many thanks.

Paddy
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on June 06, 2007, 03:28:48 PM
Some wild orchids

Limodorum-abortivum
 Ophrys-tenthredinifera
 Ophrys-scolopax

Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: annew on June 06, 2007, 08:29:08 PM
 :D Me too!
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Post by: Kees Jan on June 06, 2007, 10:09:08 PM
Amazing pics Rafa, especially the Ophrys with spider!!
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Post by: Paddy Tobin on June 06, 2007, 11:25:10 PM
Rafa,

When I view plants of such exquisite beauty it becomes perfectly clear why so many people enjoy gardening, growing plants, seeing them in the wild, photographing them, falling down on their knees and adoring them (Oh, that's only me, sorry)

Paddy
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on June 10, 2007, 03:24:42 PM
Fantastic morning in one of my favourite fields in my village. I hope one day to buy this field to preserve all his botanic jewels!!. It could be about 2000 Iris xiphium, and a number "n" of Asphodelus ramossus, Asphodelus albus, Ornithogalum pyrenaicum, Ornithogalum umbellatum, Orchis morio, Orchis mascula, Orchis coriophora, Serapias lingua, Serapias bomeracea, Paeonia officinalis, Paeonia broteroi, Hyacinthoides hispanica, Scilla verna, Scilla autumnalis, Gladiolus illyricus, Tragopogon porrifolus, Agrostemma githago, Primula veris, Primula elatior, Polygonatum odoratum, Nepeta tuberosa... and a big etc.
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Armin on June 10, 2007, 03:55:06 PM
Rafa,
great impressions - want to be there now, lay down in the gras and have a nice day dream...
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Post by: David Nicholson on June 10, 2007, 07:04:50 PM
Great pictures Rafa. I could be tempted to buy a few square meters myself! ;D
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Post by: annew on June 10, 2007, 10:52:12 PM
Oh my goodness, I think I'll have a square metre or two too!
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Post by: John Forrest on June 25, 2007, 11:31:10 PM
What a wonderful site Rafa. Good luck with your field of dreams.
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Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on June 26, 2007, 08:29:55 AM
Brilliant Rafa - what a luxury to have this in your own village !
Spare me some square meters too please !
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on July 09, 2007, 08:46:48 AM
Many thanks for your comments,

Here, Lilium martagon
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Post by: Armin on July 09, 2007, 06:25:58 PM
Hello Rafa,

wow - interesting to see the color difference to my lilium martagon cultivar.
My one is much more spotted.
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on July 09, 2007, 07:58:03 PM
Very beautiful plant, Armin, it's very different from wild forms in my region.
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on September 14, 2007, 11:33:55 PM
Hello,

some pic from the wild last week
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: tonyg on September 15, 2007, 08:05:06 AM
Great pics as always Rafa - Thanks!
Interesting that Merendera montana is at exactly the same stage of flowering here in SE UK despite the very different summer conditions here.  I had imagined it flowering on parched hillsides in the wild but here all is lush and green.
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Post by: Gerdk on September 15, 2007, 11:44:09 AM
Thank you Rafa, this is what I like to see.
Gerd
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Post by: Michael on September 16, 2007, 10:45:52 AM
OMG OMG OMG!

Is that L. martagon your Rafa? It's my favourite Lilium of all! Too bad i've heard it is very rare in the wild today...
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Post by: mark smyth on September 16, 2007, 12:29:10 PM
I've missed these photos. Better Orchid photos than any book I have seen. Are all these within walking distance of your house? Do you give lectures?

Heather what about Rafa for a lecture? Maybe for Dublin also?
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: mark smyth on September 16, 2007, 12:30:04 PM
My Merendera montana are flowering now also
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Post by: Thomas Huber on September 17, 2007, 07:49:06 AM
Hi Rafa - what a wonderful comeback for you - I love your photos from the wild !!!
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Post by: Paul T on September 17, 2007, 09:12:03 AM
Rafa,

Stunning pics, especially the Ophrys.  I don't think I've ever seen a pic of an Ophrys I don't like.  Definitely something I covet greatly, and something we don't see in Australia, so it is a real treat to see your wonderful pics.  Thanks!!  ;D
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Armin on September 22, 2007, 11:22:48 PM
Rafa - undisputed - pics from the wild are the best! Great!
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on September 26, 2007, 06:19:03 PM
Many thanks to all for your nice comments!!

Mark many thanks for your invitation, but I'm affraid, firts of all I have to learn speak in english!! ;D. Many of this species are growing in my village at 10 minutes walking. But there is a sutting place where they live almost 14 species together... I think it's the only place I know where you can find Limodorum trabutianum and L. abortivum together

Jindegales, this pictures are from wild plants, but I have several clones from this particular population and other populations from Spain, where is quite common. I can send you little bulbs if you are interested.

All the best
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Michael on September 26, 2007, 09:54:57 PM
Omg, thank you Rafa, i dunno what to say. I remember reading a book of endangered European plants, and that Lilium was almost on the top of the list. Is it easy to grow (like ny other type of lily)?
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on September 28, 2007, 11:58:55 PM
I think Lilium martagon is very easy to grow...

Here Leucojum autumnale and Paeonia officinalis
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Post by: Gerdk on September 29, 2007, 07:36:35 AM
Thank you once again Rafa. Are there any interesting plants which are not growing in your area?

Gerd
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on September 29, 2007, 10:27:57 AM
hahah , I don't know.. to me even the rocks are so interesting and exceptional!! but this is not at home, I have traveled to Ciudad Real (800km in total  :o,in a day!! I think you know this region isn't it? ;) ) to explore  a valley. It was also blooming Urginea maritima and there were thousands of deers singing his marry songs (I hope you understand this strange explanation!! ;D)
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Post by: Maggi Young on September 29, 2007, 10:45:27 AM
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thousands of deers singing his marry songs
We understand perfectly... and what a lively way to describe the deer at this time of year.
You had a very busy day, Rafa, we appreciate you sharing it with us.
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Post by: Gerdk on September 29, 2007, 06:33:48 PM
hahah , I don't know.. to me even the rocks are so interesting and exceptional!! but this is not at home, I have traveled to Ciudad Real (800km in total  :o,in a day!! I think you know this region isn't it? ;) ) to explore  a valley. It was also blooming Urginea maritima and there were thousands of deers singing his marry songs (I hope you understand this strange explanation!! ;D)

Rafa,
Ciudad Real is rather south in Spain?  When you saw flowering Leucojum autumnale there, does this mean that  the season for autumnal bulbs (daffodils for instance) has started so early this year, even in more southern Andalucia?

Gerd
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Post by: mark smyth on September 29, 2007, 10:20:40 PM
Rafa your English is by far better than my Spanish
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Post by: Michael on September 30, 2007, 10:51:04 PM
I had no idea that Leucojum flowered at this time of the year... Very nice pictures!
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Post by: Rafa on October 07, 2007, 07:16:56 PM
eHello,

Some pictures of the first population of Sternbergia colchiciflora in our province, Segovia. We have discovered in spring the capsules but what a surprise this morming!! we counted 3700 bulbs in arround 10.000m square.

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Post by: Michael on October 07, 2007, 07:35:01 PM
 :o :o :o WOW Wonderfull! I love the golden colour! Do they smell Rafael?
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Post by: Armin on October 07, 2007, 08:21:39 PM
Rafa, amazing pictures  :o

It looks the Sternbergia's grow from dry dessert.
When and how much had it rained?
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Post by: Casalima on October 07, 2007, 08:33:26 PM
Wonderful, Rafa!

And those strange and wonderful hills of Castille in the background!

Chloë
feeling nostalgic
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Post by: Anthony Darby on October 07, 2007, 10:14:17 PM
Amazing, and mine is flowering at the same time in a Scottish alpine trough!
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Post by: Paul T on October 08, 2007, 01:22:05 AM
Fantastic, Rafa.  Great pics.  Emerging as they do without leaves they are reminiscent more to me of Colchicum (similar to C. luteum) than Sternbergia.  Definitely a great looking flower and something I haven't seen before except in posts here.
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Post by: Lesley Cox on October 08, 2007, 01:42:42 AM
Perhaps that's why they're called "colchiciflora" Paul. ;)
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Post by: Paul T on October 08, 2007, 03:01:57 AM
Hmmmm... Lesley, you could be onto something there!!  ;D
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Post by: Anthony Darby on October 08, 2007, 09:38:36 AM
I wonder if it used to be "merenderiflora"? ::)
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Post by: Paul T on October 08, 2007, 11:45:26 AM
Anthony,

Yeah, you're right that they do look more like a Merendera than a Colchicum.  Never thought about the fat that the C. luteum must have fused petals as well (which I think is a technical difference between Colchicum and Merendera)...... always thought of them as separate petals.  You realise of course that now i need to go and check my pics!!  ;D
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Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on October 08, 2007, 05:57:39 PM
You never cease to amaze us Rafa !
Astonishing pix
Thanks a lot for sharing !
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Post by: Paddy Tobin on October 08, 2007, 10:28:19 PM
Rafa,

I haven't been able to log on and participate as regularly as previously and so am particularly delighted to drop in and see your postings. As always you have us green with envy with the beautiful plants you show us from your home village. They are simply beautiful.

Many thanks for your wonderful postings. Delighted to see such great photographs.

Paddy
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Diane Whitehead on October 09, 2007, 12:32:17 AM
Fantastic morning in one of my favourite fields in my village. I hope one day to buy this field to preserve all his botanic jewels!!

Is the field for sale?
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Post by: annew on October 09, 2007, 08:20:33 AM
Join the waiting list, Diane!
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Post by: hadacekf on October 09, 2007, 06:48:26 PM
Rafa,
Wonderful shots of small but beautiful Sternbergia in great scenery.
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on October 09, 2007, 08:12:18 PM
Thank you so much for your comments,

Here Crocus serotinus ssp. salzmmannii
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Post by: mark smyth on October 09, 2007, 08:23:35 PM
OMG!!!

Rafa are you sure you wouldnt come to Ireland for a lecture or three? I'm sure we could arrange Belfast, Dublin and Cork.

What about Scotland also?
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Post by: ranunculus on October 09, 2007, 09:16:17 PM
....And East Lancashire on the way home please Rafa....?
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Post by: Diane Whitehead on October 09, 2007, 09:47:41 PM
Join the waiting list, Diane!

I thought maybe we could join together to make it a park.

I visited an area on a farm in South Africa that IBSA, the Indigenous Bulb Growers
of South Africa, pays to have protected. 
Title: Re: Wild bulbous plants
Post by: Rafa on October 09, 2007, 10:01:55 PM
HAHAHHAHA ;D I 'll take this for a great compliment, but to me it's already a great effort to reply in english... I could imagine myself giving a lecture like a Sioux Chief.
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Post by: Maggi Young on October 09, 2007, 10:14:23 PM
But, Rafa, doesn't your wife speak English? You could both come and she could give your speech to your photos!  :D


Diane, what a fine idea! Rafa Natural Park 8)
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Post by: ranunculus on October 09, 2007, 10:29:33 PM
You got in very quickly Maggi.....I was going to say to Rafa; 'HOW'.....?
...but then realised that a native American joke like that may not be easily recognised as such in Spain (or Aberdeen for that matter)!   :D 
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Post by: mark smyth on October 09, 2007, 10:43:01 PM
Rafa your English is much better than my Spanish that I should be able to speak because my mother is/was Spanish speaking until she came here in the 50s
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Post by: Diane Whitehead on October 09, 2007, 10:48:35 PM
All Rafa needs is a translator, but it must be one who is interested in
plants.

I attended a study weekend in the U.S. where several of the speakers
did not speak English.  The organizers had engaged translators for
them.

The translator for the Chinese botanist was a young student who did not know
much about plants.  We could understand the botanist's Latin names, but
all the student said of each plant was that it was used for medicine. Not very
useful for those of us who wanted to grow them.

The translator for the Japanese lecturer was very good - a Canadian anthropology
professor who was interested in plants, and therefore was able to make his
translation very interesting and useful.  He was asked to be the translator for
 the Chinese botanist's second lecture, and what an amazing difference it made.  
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Post by: tonyg on October 09, 2007, 11:43:46 PM
More fabulous photos Rafa, thanks as always.
The gallery of pictures that you have is certainly worthy of sharing with a much wider audience.  I am sure that these pictures (and your great knowledge if the local plants) could be used to help fund your purchase of that special field.  If you want an English collaborator I would be happy to help .... my wife does speak a little Spanish :)
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