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Plant Identification => Plant Identification Questions and Answers => Topic started by: yijiawang on June 18, 2007, 10:55:48 AM
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This weekend I went to Qingdao, Qingdao is belong to Shandong province and near sea, a special Lilium tsingtauense grow there.
the shape like Paris with Lily flower
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Glad to see this Lily in its home. Thank you!
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Hi Yijiawang ,
Thank you for this nice pictures !
Did you see on you travels also Epimedium ?
Best wishes from Germany
Hans
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Great sight Yijiawang ! Thanks for showing us !
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For two years ago I got this Lily from China. I got it as L. bakerianum and this is wrong, but is there any of you the can tell me the correctly name. The leaves are like L. henryi.
Karl Kristensen
Denmark
www.kalle-k.dk
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Hi, I also have this lovely lily. It is Lilium lijinganense
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I agree. lijiangense. described as late as 1984 or thereabouts.
My specimen has a black line in the middle of the tepal (only visible from below.)
The drooping pedicels are also very typical.
It seems easy from seed and hardy even in mid-Sweden.
Göte
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Susan and Göte thank you for help with named of my lily. I got two more lily in my greenhouse. I have made them both from seeds. There was a name with the seeds, but I can see it is wrong. That one I got as L. concolor grow like L. davidii but the stem is not black. The other one I got as L. hansonii and it’s not look like that. The flowers of L. hansonii come in the top of the stem and it hanging, not so much as the flowers on my "L. conolor" and it has no stalk.
Karl Kristensen,
Denmark
www.kalle-k.dk
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I got this Lily as Nomocharis forrestii, which is clearly wrong. Can anyone help me with a name, please.
Thanks
Magnar
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Lilium-sp.jpg)
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There are several possibilities, could you take a picture of the leaves? It's most likely either L. duchartrei or L. lankongense, the former has a clusters of white hair in the leaf axils.
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Here is a pic of the leaves
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/leaves.jpg)
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Looks like L. lankongense, but check for lack of hairs in the leaf axils to rule out L. duchartrei.
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Hello Karl,
The first one does indeed look like davidii - perhaps var wilmottie.
The second one is obviously not even related to hansonii. I assume that it has only one flower in which case it probably also is davidii. Davidii is a variable species and I have once had a couple with green stems.
Can it be amabile?? Amabile has rather rounded leaf tips and leaf colour is somewhat darker whereas davidii leaf tips are pointed.
Does it smell anything?
It would be helpful with more pictures showing the whole plant and also showing the bracts and other parts of the inflorescense.
Göte
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I agree. Probably lankongense.
Today the view seems to be to lump lankongense and duchartreii since there are intermediate forms. I am not sure that I buy that.
The easy way is that lankongense is pink - just as in the pic.
Duchartreii is whiter - maroon spotted. Typically not pink at all.
There is a difference in the infloresence too. Duchartreii umbel - lankongense raceme. Of course this does not help if there is only one flower but I think I see a raceme.
At least one of them is usually stoloniferous.I.e. the stem does not come up where the bulb is but a couple of decimetres to the side but this does not always happen but seems to depend upon age of bulb.
Göte
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Thanks a lot. I go for L. lankongense then. Can not see any white hairs in the leaf axils.
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Might be useful as well: http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=118558
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The flower on my”Lilium hansonii” is fallen. I think it has no smell but I am not sure. The stem is 60 cm. long and the leaves are 8 cm. long and ½ cm. broad. The flower came in the top of the stem and got no stalk as the flower on L. davidii.
The stem on my L. concolor are 80 cm. and the leaves are 5 cm. long and less than ½ cm. broad. It looks like my L. davidii v. willmottiae, who has black stems, but if that species also can have green stems as Göte tolls I am quite sure it is L. davidii v. willmottiae
Karl Kristensen.
Denmark
www.kalle-k.dk
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Since you have been doing so well identifying lilies I give you another one here:
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Lilium-P7014201.jpg)
A name here would make me happy ;)
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I mean L. lankongense is more pink than Lilium duchartrei there are nearly white. I put a picture of my Lilium lankongense, so Magnar I think also your lily is Lilium lankongense.
Karl Kristensen.
Denmark
www.kalle-k.dk
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I mean it looks like Lilium lijinganense. Look the answer from Susan and Göte on my searching of Lilium.
Karl Kristensen.
Denmark
www.kalle-k.dk
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Is it Chinese? If not, it could be L. pyrenaicum or one of the closely related species (L. ciliatum etc.).
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I really don't know where this lily came from. It might very well have come from China. The flowers are much bigger than on L. pyrenaicum, I would say about twice as big. I can see it looks much like Lilium lijinganense, although the flower in the pic shown in the other thread is not quite like my plant. So at least I can call it Lilium aff. lijinganense.
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Could you post a pic of the foliage?
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Leaves here:
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/blad.jpg)
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I'd plump for ciliatum, since this can have flowers about twice the size of pyrenaicum. There's a good comparative chart of this group's characteristics at Markus Hohenegger's site (http://www.the-genus-lilium.com/subsection3b.htm).
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The leaves are like - but not QUITE like - L. pyrenaicum and its flowers reflex markedly. I think the petals are narrower too, and if straightened out would be longer.
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After I have seen the leaves I can say it is not Lilium lijinganense. For me it looks more like Lilium pyreanaicum, but it is not coming from China. The leaves on Lilium ciliatum got small hair. It can also be a yellow form of L. carniolicum, but the early leaves on L. carniolicum also got small hair. My guess is; a young plant of Lilium pyreanaicum. Have it a powerful smell?
Karl Kristensen.
Denmark.
www.kalle-k.dk
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The flowers are gone now so I can't say if they have a smell or not. May be L. pyrenaica varies in flower size, cause I see that the leaves are much like my other L. pyrenaica.
Thanks everybody.
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Kalle,
In this picture your "hansonii" looks even more as one that I keyed out as davidii some years ago.
If there is only one flower we usually cannot see any pedicel so I would not put too much stress on that feature.
I think that you will see proper davidii pedicels next year when it is stronger (I hope :) )
Göte
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I do not think that it is lijiangense.
Lijiangense has less dense leaves and a typical near-black line in the inner centre of al tepals.
It also has long drooping pedicels.
The flowers are wider with more recurved tepals.
I think that it must be something similar to pyrenaicum but it is not one that I have seen.
Göte