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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Stefan B. on December 02, 2023, 04:45:11 PM
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It was supposed to bloom two weeks after 'Barnes' but it bloomed a whole month after him, just now.
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Elwesii ssp hiemalis Group
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Here is another snowdrop that is blooming now, I bought the bulbs from a big hypermarket a few years ago. I assume it is from the hiemalis group?
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Very nice with that large mark, Stefan!
In my garden, flowering-time depends on the situation where a certain clone is planted. I grow ´Barnes´ in several places, and they do not flower always at the same time, nor at the same time of the season.
The Galanthus elwesii You bought at the hypermarket will be a potted bulb of imported G. elwesii. If You buy such a mixture, there may be 5-6 % of autumn-flowering snowdrops among them, like those flowering here.
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Very nice with that large mark, Stefan!
In my garden, flowering-time depends on the situation where a certain clone is planted. I grow ´Barnes´ in several places, and they do not flower always at the same time, nor at the same time of the season.
The Galanthus elwesii You bought at the hypermarket will be a potted bulb of imported G. elwesii. If You buy such a mixture, there may be 5-6 % of autumn-flowering snowdrops among them, like those flowering here.
(https://up.picr.de/46717905iz.jpg)
5-6% it's like winning the lottery :) The snowflakes in the picture are so lovely.
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It is so nice to see flowering snowdrops! :)
I have also bought dry G.elwesii couple of times from garden centers, and once got bulbs which started to flower right away in December, so they must have been autumn-flowering, but unfortunately they all died during the winter here.
What a beautiful combination with snowdrops and cyclamen leaves!
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It is so nice to see flowering snowdrops! :)
I have also bought dry G.elwesii couple of times from garden centers, and once got bulbs which started to flower right away in December, so they must have been autumn-flowering, but unfortunately they all died during the winter here.
They didn't last because autumn elwesias should be planted earlier than later blooming ones, it wasn't the winter's fault. :)
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They didn't last because autumn elwesias should be planted earlier than later blooming ones, it wasn't the winter's fault. :)
Okay, so you mean that they didn't get enough time to root and didn't survive because of that? I planted the dry supermarket bulbs that time in late September I think, so it is possible.
I have tried 'Barnes' twice here. The first time I planted it in August I think, it was many years ago, and it never came up.
I remember that it has started to form a shoot already when I planted it, but no roots.
Then another time I got it in spring, and planted first in pot and then later in the ground, and that year winter came early again, and it didn't have time to come up before winter,
and the next spring there was no sign of it and when I dug where I had planted it, I couldn't find anything. I don't know what happened.
Many times earlier (spring) flowering snowdrops like 'Bess' or 'Mrs Macnamara' are already peaking in December before the winter, and then they just wait for weather to warm up and flower properly in March/April, but this year cold came so early, that there were no snowdrops showing yet.
There is now about 10cm snow and last night was the coldest so far, -22C, but it is now going to be warmer (between -5- -10C), and maybe more snow by the end of the week.
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Okay, so you mean that they didn't get enough time to root and didn't survive because of that? I planted the dry supermarket bulbs that time in late September I think, so it is possible.
I meant that traders should not mix up autumn blooming snowdrops with spring blooming ones. This mixing and almost always disastrous for autumn bloomers. For me, out of several bulbs, only one sprouted and it bloomed in the third year after planting.
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I meant that traders should not mix up autumn blooming snowdrops with spring blooming ones. This mixing and almost always disastrous for autumn bloomers.
Ok, I understand and agree. :)
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'Three Ships', multiplying only very slowly so might prefer replanting elsewhere.
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Very nice scenery, Ashley! With me, ´Three Ships´ bulks up like mad - I wonder why it doesn´t do it for You? Most of them are growing in my borders on heavy clay. The compost of my heap, where I grow some potted in, contains a good deal of clay as well. There was no difference between dry and wet years. This year we are up to 1000 mm of rainfall, 2018 there were only 450 mm.
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Thanks for your interesting feed-back Mariette.
I'm in two minds, whether to leave them undisturbed & perhaps bulk-up faster now, or to try another situation in the garden.
From what you say, they shouldn't be fussy, and other plicatus do fine here.
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Being a newbie to growing snow drops I would like to determine how important solid type is to successful growing.
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From what you say, they shouldn't be fussy, and other plicatus do fine here.
In my garden, not all G. plicatus do grow as well as ´Three Ships´. ´E.A. Bowles´, for instance, hardly produces any new bulbs, but does very well on sandy or better drained soils. ´Trym´is another one, which doesn´t bulk for me, though it did very well with the kind friend from whom I got it. Perhaps some clones require drier conditions during summer to split than my garden offers?
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The 'Three Ships' myths are visible on the horizon...
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Galanthus plicatus 'Three Ships'
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and look more like the ships from Star Wars :)
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This year the flowering was delayed by more than a month.
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Galanthus corcyrensis
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So nice pictures Ashley and Stefan. :)
In my garden, not all G. plicatus do grow as well as ´Three Ships´. ´E.A. Bowles´, for instance, hardly produces any new bulbs, but does very well on sandy or better drained soils. ´Trym´is another one, which doesn´t bulk for me, though it did very well with the kind friend from whom I got it. Perhaps some clones require drier conditions during summer to split than my garden offers?
I don't have 'Three Ships' so I can't say anything about it, but it is interesting what you wrote.
I lost 'E.A.Bowles' in one bed last year, but luckily I had divided it and had one bulb in another spot, so it is not lost alltogether. The spot where it is growing now is moist, and perhaps I should move it to a drier spot. Then again 'Wendy's Gold' diminished in a dry spot while growing well in more moist spot, so there are differences among the same species.
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Being a newbie to growing snow drops I would like to determine how important solid type is to successful growing.
I don't understand what you mean. Solid type?
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I don't understand what you mean. Solid type?
I have a strong hunch that Jeff in referring to “soil” type.
I do not know much about the genus Galanthus, but I am finding this discussion quite interesting. It appears different Galanthus clones respond to differing soil types and soil conditions in different ways. Other variables are likely involved too. These general concepts can be applied to plants from other Genus. Personally I have found that there is a whole inner world of variation within each species of plants. I have found that this inner world is also in a constant state of flux. From my perspective there are unlimited, infinite possibilities. For me this is part of what makes gardening so much fun and rewarding.
I do look forward to following this thread and learning more about Galanthus.
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The soil in my garden is brown forest soil. Maybe this nice soil helped me create my garden, all the plants grow beautifully without much effort on my part. The only thing I add is compost that I make myself. "Three ships" develop normally with me, I have had no problem growing them. During the dry season, they are watered regularly.
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Robert
Yes I was referring to soil type, clay/silt/loam/sandy....
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Out of interest when does G. plicatus ssp. plicatus normally flower, that is in a normal season?
I ask as the clump I have has flower colour just showing now.
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G. elwesii Snow Fox. A little earlier than usual.
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Galanthus plicatus ‘Colossus’ is flowering here.
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An early start here too, although this plicatus byzantinus seedling usually opens for Christmas.
'Hans Guck in die Luft', 'Lapwing' & 'Mrs Macnamara' have also begun.
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And the shape of the color and the green marking are different, great:)
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Galanthus elwesii maybe (Hiemalis Group)
I bought the bulbs from a hypermarket a few years ago, only these two bulbs survived and bloomed this winter for the first time.
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Today we enjoyed a bit of sunshine, after all. :)
´Three Ships´ grows very well here. For the lack of space in my garden, it´s making its way into the vegetable plot. ;)
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A Galanthus elwesii I received from a dear friend. Unlike other large-flowered G. e. it clumps well.
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Another tall Galanthus elwesii from a mixture I bought years ago.
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Herman, the Belgiums seem well ahead of us, ´Colossus´is not yet in flower here.
Ashley, a beautiful scenery, once again!
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Today we enjoyed a bit of sunshine, after all. :)
´Three Ships´ grows very well here. For the lack of space in my garden, it´s making its way into the vegetable plot. ;)
A Galanthus elwesii I received from a dear friend. Unlike other large-flowered G. e. it clumps well.
Another tall Galanthus elwesii from a mixture I bought years ago.
Herman, the Belgiums seem well ahead of us, ´Colossus´is not yet in flower here.
Ashley, a beautiful scenery, once again!
Mariette, the temperature has been here around 10°C for the last weeks, maybe that is the reason.