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mark smyth

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Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« on: October 21, 2009, 06:46:01 PM »
In the Crocus pages there are photos where people ask for a name or confirmation of a name. These quickly get lost as more photos are added or the main Croconuts don't check in every day.

Add them here.
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2009, 07:42:16 PM »
Confirmatuon of names please.
Crocus laevigatus.
Crocus nudiflorus

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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2009, 07:51:48 PM »
Michael, laevigatus is correct but I'm not sure about nudiflorus
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2009, 08:28:49 PM »
This is what I have growing as Crocus asumaniae. Any ideas if this is correct?
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 08:29:52 PM »
It looks like tournefortii to be. Tony, Thomas or Janis can confirm it
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2009, 08:38:45 PM »
Simon  -  C. tournefortii. A unhybridised form by the look of it.
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2009, 09:27:04 PM »
Already this new crocus page is worthwhile and doing what was intended. :)
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2009, 10:57:31 PM »
Is this Crocus cartwrightianus?  I've had it a long time completely neglected in a pot but have ben repotting more regularly and it is flowering again.  It does not look like cartwrightianus posted by other forum members.  The leaves are very narrow with a conspicuous white stripe.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2009, 11:42:01 PM »
Lesley this was brought on by what I said amateur Croconuts not getting answers elsewhere. It's happened to me many times.

Roma I'm sure someone will have a positive ID. They styles on your plants dont look big enough for cartwrightianus. I'll bet someone asks what the corms look like
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2009, 09:17:41 AM »
Thanks, Mark and Gerry. The flower is much bigger than my other C.tournefortii, which are all from the same corm from 1 source. So it must have arrived wrongly labelled. Good to know what it is though.  :)
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2009, 10:02:13 AM »
Is this Crocus cartwrightianus?  I've had it a long time completely neglected in a pot but have ben repotting more regularly and it is flowering again.  It does not look like cartwrightianus posted by other forum members.  The leaves are very narrow with a conspicuous white stripe.
Roma - not too easy to say from your photo - a closer view would have been useful. I'll hazard a guess at C. hadriaticus, the pure white form, originally described from Mt Parnassos but now known to occur elsewhere.
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2009, 10:11:05 AM »
Is this Crocus cartwrightianus?  I've had it a long time completely neglected in a pot but have ben repotting more regularly and it is flowering again.  It does not look like cartwrightianus posted by other forum members.  The leaves are very narrow with a conspicuous white stripe.
Hi Roma.  Gerry could well be right.  I have a crocus which came (from Kath Dryden) which is labelled 'cartwrightianus albus?'  Coming from such an esteemed stable the name was not questioned until Brian M described the pure white variant of Crocus hadriaticus as ssp parnassicus.  Like the plants you have pictured mine produce the odd 'ragged' petal.  If the flowers close up at night and in dull weather it is most likely a form of C hadriaticus, if they stay open - C cartwrightianus.

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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2009, 10:15:52 AM »
Confirmatuon of names please.
Crocus laevigatus.
Crocus nudiflorus
Yes to the laevigatus.
Very likely yes to the nudiflorus.  If there are no leaves at flowering this increases the 'yes'.  If there are stolons developing around the parent corm then a definite yes.  (You can wait and check for small new croms at repotting if you don't want to disturb the roots.)   It could be a form of C serotinus but I would say most likely it is as labelled.

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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2009, 02:48:41 PM »
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Very likely yes to the nudiflorus.  If there are no leaves at flowering this increases the 'yes'.

Tony,it does have leaves.

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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2009, 03:55:48 PM »
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Very likely yes to the nudiflorus.  If there are no leaves at flowering this increases the 'yes'.

Tony,it does have leaves.
long leaves now =  serotinus
leaves just visible 50/50 serotinus or nudiflorus
show us the whole plant and it might be clearer

 


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