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Specific Families and Genera => Iris => Topic started by: Yann on January 10, 2021, 09:04:50 PM
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Iris hyrcana, and easy one, more to come as 7-8 buds are ready to open in few days.
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do you manage to multiply them by seed?
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I have just updated www.Reticulatas.com (http://www.Reticulatas.com) with over 500 photos from 2020. The site shows a lot of my work to-date; including parentage. It focuses on 2n=18 Reticulatas since that's where I've opened up a whole new world of colours and patterns. It's hard to know what is possible until it "magically" appears. It's always a treat to see what opens for the first time each Spring. In the past, working with 2n=20 species and hybrids, I'd just get more of the same -- more blues and purples. I specifically tried to acquire collected forms with different genetics to what was in commerce in order to try to open up the expression in hybrids, but it didn't make a lot of difference. More collected forms are available now than in the 80s and 90s. At the time, White Caucasus showed promise, but since I was getting much more dramatic results from the 2n=18 hybrids I focused on those [see www.reticulatas.com/1998-101.html (http://www.reticulatas.com/1998-101.html) and compare results from the 98-OO and 98-NP crosses to the 98-YS cross which gave Holland Glory]. In recent years I have made some crosses (dabbled) with White Caucasus. We now know Norman Steven's Halkis is 2n=18, and the Adiyaman Retic is 2n=16 (I'm surprised how difficult its been to get to bloom -- it seemed to do well for John Amand), and we have the stoloniferous Iris sisianica [which has been converted to tetraploid, but material has not yet been delivered -- hopefully Fall 2021; but it could then be 2 years before it blooms (i.e. Spring 2024)]. Exciting possibilities for the future...
Variety is the spice of life.
I look forward to seeing what SRGC members post in 2021 -- old favourites, collected forms, etc.
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do you manage to multiply them by seed?
Yes and i already cutted spares.
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Iris 'Alida'
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Iris 'Clairette'
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Iris 'Sheila Anne Germany'
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Not sure about this one. It came as 'Halkis' which it isn't. 'Spot On'? 'Fabiola' ?
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Leopard (12-IO-1) blooming for the first time in Holland
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North Star -- a touch past peak bloom
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07-CU-3
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Eye Catcher [tetraploid]
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It's Magic [tetrploid]
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Note: photos were taken by Jan Ligthart in Holland
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Nice ones Alan
Hope they soon will be in numbers so a lot can get them :)
They are quite striking
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The following sets of photos are from the Iris collection of Dimitri Zubov - Hermodactyloides and Scorpiris
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I. kurbanovii, Turkmenistan & 'Orange Glow'
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'Orange Glow'
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'Dubonair' ( Debonair?)
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'Sea Green'
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I. reticulata 'Spot On' & I. reticulata ex Peter Taggart
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I. reticulata ex Peter Taggart
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I. reticulata ex Peter Taggart
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I. histrioides 'Michael's Angel' & I. reticulata 'Spot On' & ex Peter Taggart
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I. histrioides 'Michael's Angel'
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I. histrio subsp. aintabensis, Gaziantep, S Turkey
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I. hymenospatha subsp. leptoneura, Zagros Range, Iran
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I. hyrcana, Lerik, Azerbaihan & I. reticulata, Olang Pass, NE Iran
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I. kurdica, Turkey
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I. kurdica, Turkey
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I. kurdica, Turkey
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I. reticulata Kuhha-e-Abr, Iran
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I. reticulata Kuhha-e-Abr, Iran
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I. reticulata, Alvand, W Iran
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I. reticulata, Ardabil, Iran
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I. reticulata, Arevik Mnts, Zangezur Range, Armenia & I. histrioides 'Michael's Angel'
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I. reticulata, Arevik Mnts, Zangezur Range, Armenia & I. histrioides 'Michael's Angel'
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I. reticulata, Olang Pass, NE Iran (left) & I. hyrcana, Lerik, Talysh, Azerbaijan
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I. rosenbachiana Harangon & Tovilj-Dara, Tajikistan
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I. rosenbachiana Harangon & Tovilj-Dara, Tajikistan
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I. rosenbachiana Harangon, Tajikistan
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I. rosenbachiana Varzob (right) & Harangon (left), Tajikistan
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Thanks to Dima for these photos!
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I. rosenbachiana Varzob, Tajikistan
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I. zagrica, Zagros Range, Iran
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I. reticulata, Delaman, Iran
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I. reticulata, Delaman, Iran
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Thank you Maggie for uploading these photos!. My eyes are overwhelmed with so many little treasures! I only hope one day to grow these since most come from regions quite similar to mine. a lot of work ahead, starting with accessing seeds. We all hope that the pandemic will become harnessed and normal procedures can be re-instated. Meanwhile these beautiful photos are a balm.
Arturo
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Thanks for posting these Maggi. They are all so lovely and Iris reticulata has so many beautiful wild forms.
I hardly see any difference from some of the named cultivars (they just probably sell better having a name).
Iris rosenbachiana is a dream!
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Yes, thanks for sharing Dimitri and for posting Maggi. That's a stunning collection of beautiful Iris. I wish I could grow half of these but our wet climate is less than ideal for these beauties, so I'll have to admire from afar. Is the I. rosenbachiana growing outside?
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Dima has them all growing outside as far as I know, Tristan. He may give some a cover in the worst weather, I'm not sure.
A few new Iris pix from Dima today .....
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Iris hymenospatha subsp. leptoneura, W Iran
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Iris rosenbachiana Tovilj-Dara, Tajikistan
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Iris kurdica, Turkey & Iris x histrioides 'Frank Elder'
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Iris reticulata, Adiyaman, S Turkey & 'Spot On'
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Iris reticulata, Adiyaman, S Turkey
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Another from Dima
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Iris reticulata, Ardabil, W Iran
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The first retic for the year is 'Purple Gem' which we got from Hillview 3 years ago,
cheers
fermi
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A week later and a few more 'Purple Gem' have emerged,
cheers
fermi
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Jon B (mini-bulblover) raised this one from seed from Alan McMurtrie - seed labelled "04 IM"
cheers
fermi
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The first of the new growing season - Iris vartanii
Always this early and as a result vulnerable to frost damage in a bad winter.
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Very nice Luc. From seed? I failed with germination :(
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Very nice Luc. From seed? I failed with germination :(
From 1 bulb as present.
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The first Iris reticulata in the rockgarden - a collection from Qobustan, Azerbaijan
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And the first juno of the new season sown in the winter of 2017/18 - Iris rosenbachiana
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Another Iris rosenbachiana
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Another Iris rosenbachiana
Even more beautiful than the first, Luc!
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A species that flowers early in the season with developed leaves is this Iris paelestina, here in a yellow form.
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Lovely early growth from Iris palaestina, Luc.
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The first of the Iris nicolai in flower. Nicolai and rosenbachiana are very closely related for me.
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A new plant in the collection is this Iris reticulata from Turkey with very dark flowers
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A collection of Iris reticulata from the Alvand Mnts. in Iran
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Another Iris reticulata, now from a seedcollection in the Ziyaret Mnts of Turkey.
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Iris rosenbachiana
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Iris tubergeniana from Kazakhstan
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Iris nicolai, for me a very nice exemple and seedraised.
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Iris rosenbachiana "Vahsh"
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Remembering Zhirair.
A seedling raised from Armenian Iris reticulata sent to me by sadly missed forumist Zhirair Basmayjan
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Remembering Zhirair.
A seedling raised from Armenian Iris reticulata sent to me by sadly missed forumist Zhirair Basmayjan
What a lovely plant to remember our lost friend, Tony.
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Iris nicolai Sina
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Two yellow juno's separable by the wings to the falls :
Iris svetlanae with wings and Iris bucharica from Afghanistan without wings
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One of the Iris rosenbachiana from a 2015 seedpot
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Iris galatica
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Two more juno's
Iris tubergeniana
Iris kuschakewiczii
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Iris willmottiana
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This was a surprise. About 18 months ago I planted out some of my potted reticulata and histrioides type irises. I am having trouble repotting them every year and must try to do the rest + the crocuses this year. This bed has been built up using used potting soil. There was no label near this iris so I don't know if I saw the bulb when I depotted the compost.
Iris 'Dance On'
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At the other end of the bed (with labels) are Iris 'Reine Immaculee', 'Katherine's Gold' and one Iris histrioides 'Major' which I need to move to where the rest of them are planted. Pictures to follow. Just discovered I haven't resized them yet
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Iris histrioides 'Reine Immaculee'
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Iris 'Katherine's Gold'
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There's another one coming up with no label. I do have an idea but will wait and see.
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Iris hippolyti
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Iris caucasica from Iran with a distinct green-yellow flower
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iris pseudocapnoides
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An old man made cross between iris bucharica and iris vicaria.
Seeds were sold via the Archibald list under JJA6575495
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One of the easiest species of the junos.
Iris magnifica
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One of the first iris outside in the rockgarden.
Iris attica from Greece
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Two collections of Iris bucharica.
The first is a "normal" form from the trade, the 2nd is a collection from Tadjikistan and much shorter
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The last of the reticulatas. Iris sisianica, a stoloniferous species from Armenia
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Maybe the best Iris bucharica, the all yellow Iris bucharica "Top Gold"
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Iris caucasica subsp. turcica
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A few iris from the rockgarden.
Iris lutescens in a very dark blue and a white form
Iris pumila atroviolacea
Iris pumila from Holubec seed
Iris reichenbachii in a blue colour
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The last of the reticulatas. Iris sisianica, a stoloniferous species from Armenia
First described in this issue of International Rock Gardener by Zubov and Bondarenko ;
http://reticulatas.com/Documents/Iris%20sisianica%20--%202018%20March%20International%20Rock%20Gardener.pdf
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Iris humilis
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The most remarkable Iris pumila, an Archibald collection under JJA199590.
Very slow to multiply and not always easy to flower well
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ACW 1266 was collected in 1966 by S. Albury, M. Cheese, and J. Watson. The original field notes of the ACW expedition to Turkey in 1966 state:
- Col 24/5/66
- Exp reference no 1266
- Height 4 inches
- Of common distribution at 1800m.
- Found in high grass pasturage at base of rocky outcrops on north slopes in the province or Siirt in S E Turkey.
Amazingly it turns out ACW 1266 is the Retic we know as Halkis. In the 1990s Norman Stevens collected some bulbs in the Halkis mountains east and a touch south of Lake Van (Green on map below). A Dutch bulb grower applied for Plant Breeder Rights under the name Halkis, which were granted in 2007. Halkis Daği is about 60km outside of Siirt Province, in Batman Province.
The question is: is Halkis a form of Iris sophenensis or is it a unique species on it's own? Per Tony Hall, its chromosome count is 2n=18.
The photos below show how similar ACW 1266 is to Halkis. Note: in both cases the fall blotch starts off quite dark when the flowers open
ACW 1266
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Halkis Note: the two flowers at the bottom on either side are just opening and have dark Fall blotches
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ACW 1266
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Halkis
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In 2017 Leopard (12-IO-1) bloomed for the very first time.
5 years later the first seedling from it bloomed: 17-BC-1 (05-GQ-1 x 12-IO-1)
It is very surprising that the seedling looks a lot like its pollen parent.
Just like Leopard, 17-BC-1's 'orange' fades over time -- but this is a nice effect
Leopard (12-IO-1)
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17-BC-1 March 31, 2022
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17-BC-1 Apr 3
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17-BC-1 Apr 6
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17-BC-1 Apr 7
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Magnificent 8)
Many thanks for showing these beautiful hybrids Alan.
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17-CR-1
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15-CS-1
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13-AU-1
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18-DX-1
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18-BT-1 -- seems to be a true blue (no hint of purple mixing in)
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