Crocus November 2009

[Lesley Cox]

Janis, Marcus sent me the same 'Gold backed' laevigatus last summer and it flowered just like Art's

[Sinchets]

Sorry, I was assuming that for Norman Stevens to list it as a horticultural form it must have been around for a while- especially as it seems to have made its way to the other side of the world and back 
As Mark says though, they both look the same except for differences in lighting.

[Melvyn Jope]

I was advised yesterday by Brian Mathew that the aberrant form of Crocus hadriaticus from Didima I posted in Reply 167 0n November 17th is a form of C. hadriaticus ssp parnonicus. Hope that helps others as confused as I was, I have added the photos again to make it easier.

[Maggi Young]

Thanks, Melvyn.... good idea to add the pix again... 

[Janis Ruksans]

I was advised yesterday by Brian Mathew that the aberrant form of Crocus hadriaticus from Didima I posted in Reply 167 0n November 17th is a form of C. hadriaticus ssp parnonicus. Hope that helps others as confused as I was, I have added the photos again to make it easier.

Yes, it looks as parnonicus. The lilac stripes at base can confuse as throat in parnonicus must be white, but more carefull look confirms that those are only stripes over white base. Although by last communication with BM better would be regard parnonicus and parnassicus only at varietal not subspecies status as there are many intermediate forms without sharp border between taxa.
I'm attaching pictures of hadriaticus typica and var. parnassicus (I haven't good pictures of parnonicus).
Janis

[Gerry Webster]

Janis - with its very pointed tepals that's a handsome form of C. hadriaticus (typical). Does it have a cultivar name?

[mark smyth]

For the second time this autumn a supplier has sent something wrong. For supplying ordinary korolkowii as the cultivar 'Dystictus' last year I got laevigatus Albus which turned out to be speciosus. I then got laevigatus AH0138 as compensation. All is well until this week when another rogue bulb comes up  . This is another form of laevigatus  ::)I knew something was wrong when I saw yellow tips on the emerging buds

Here is AH 0138 and below the rogue

Any comments?

[Oron Peri]

Early this morning, a golden bud... 20 minuets later...C. moabiticus.

The second is a good form of C. heymalis.

[Janis Ruksans]

Janis - with its very pointed tepals that's a handsome form of C. hadriaticus (typical). Does it have a cultivar name?

Yes, it is named 'Dodona'.
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

For the second time this autumn a supplier has sent something wrong. For supplying ordinary korolkowii as the cultivar 'Dystictus' last year I got laevigatus Albus which turned out to be speciosus. I then got laevigatus AH0138 as compensation. All is well until this week when another rogue bulb comes up  . This is another form of laevigatus  ::)I knew something was wrong when I saw yellow tips on the emerging buds

Here is AH 0138 and below the rogue

Any comments?

The second (yellow shaded) laevigatus not bad! With that you are not looser although we allways want to get what we ordered. Unfortunately wrong names are too often joined with low price.
Janis

[Janis Ruksans]

Early this morning, a golden bud... 20 minuets later...C. moabiticus.

The second is a good form of C. heymalis.

Superb hyemalis!!!!
Janis

[mark smyth]

Oron! 

[Oron Peri]

Thanks Janis and Mark

Today i went to the Upper Galilee to see C. aleppicus, this area is home to a huge population growing on basaltic black soil.

This form is different to the one i have shown a week ago from the coastal area, being larger in size and less variable in color, all are white, often with a thin purple strip on the outer petal, styles either yellow or orange.

[Oron Peri]

Luckily!!!!

I have found the most beautiful aleppicus i have ever seen.
One have to see the population to realise how something like this is rare.

[art600]

For the second time this autumn a supplier has sent something wrong. For supplying ordinary korolkowii as the cultivar 'Dystictus' last year I got laevigatus Albus which turned out to be speciosus. I then got laevigatus AH0138 as compensation. All is well until this week when another rogue bulb comes up  . This is another form of laevigatus  ::)I knew something was wrong when I saw yellow tips on the emerging buds

Here is AH 0138 and below the rogue

Any comments?

I agree with Janis - the replacement is an excellent plant even if it is not what was stated.  Actually like it better than the real thing