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Title: Ferns 2019
Post by: ruweiss on March 11, 2019, 09:12:36 PM
Cheilanthes eatonii in the Alpine house
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: ruweiss on June 20, 2019, 07:07:58 PM
More ferns:
Davallia canariensis and Woodwardia radicans are not hardy in our climate.
Davallia grows mostly epiphytic on Pinus canariense on the Canary Islands
and is a winter grower in my experience. After planting in Seramis it grows
quite well with me.
Woodsia polystichoides
Pyrrosia lingua
Asplenium fontanum
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: ruweiss on June 20, 2019, 07:11:27 PM
And some more:

    Ceterach officinarum
    Cheilanthes fendleri
    Cheilanthes lanosa
    Cheilanthes persica
    Cheilanthes wootonii
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: shelagh on June 21, 2019, 09:54:15 AM
Rudi you are doing very well with your Cheilanthes. I have grown a couple from spores but found them impossible to keep.

Your Asplenium fontanum looks very much  like ours which does well on the show bench. There is a much more vigorous form about but ours is now 10years old and keeps it shape well.
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: shelagh on June 21, 2019, 04:35:59 PM
Rudi you have made me get out into the sunshine and take some pics of our ferns.
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: shelagh on June 21, 2019, 04:40:37 PM
I love the painted fern it shows up beautifully under the Mespillis/Amelanchia.

We had the Pellaea on the bench but the judges said it wasn't hardy.  Its been in the. garden getting on for 10 years now
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: shelagh on June 21, 2019, 04:42:14 PM
Most of these ferns I have grown from spores.
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: ruweiss on June 23, 2019, 08:59:25 PM
Shelagh, many thanks for the pictures of your beautiful ferns, you must have an enormous
collection of these fine plants. It was not my plan to send you to the garden for taking
pictures, but I like these resulting photos. Asplenium fontanum grows very well in the open
garden, young plants from spores appear on some places, especially on tufa.
Cheilanthes grow without any problems in the open garden, especially on dry walls and
tufa - maybe influenced by the climatic change. A friend raised Cheilanthes persica from
spores of collected plants, so I keep these goodies in the alpine house for the next time.
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: shelagh on June 24, 2019, 04:14:19 PM
We have collected quite a few Rudi because of showing them. Then those that don't so well on the show bench or are according to the judges 'not hardy' go in the garden.

I must admit I do like growing them from spores although it takes a long time. We were members of the Pteridological Society for a few years but they are too knowledgeable for us.
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on July 19, 2019, 11:33:01 AM
There is an album of  British Native  Ferns  from the  British Pteridological Society  on  Facebook - it appears that anyone  can see the  photos  there  (They are not  on the  BPS website  it  seems https://ebps.org.uk (https://ebps.org.uk)  )
The  album  in progress can be  seen  here :
 https://www.facebook.com/pg/BPS.FernWorld/photos/?tab=album&album_id=702056686482945 (https://www.facebook.com/pg/BPS.FernWorld/photos/?tab=album&album_id=702056686482945)

Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: ashley on July 19, 2019, 01:35:04 PM
An excellent resource Maggi.  Thank you 8)
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: Maggi Young on July 29, 2019, 12:01:21 PM
The British Pteridological Society  is  having its Hardy and  Tender  Fern Show
at  RHS Wisley   3rd and  4th August  .....

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More details :
https://www.rhs.org.uk/gardens/wisley/viewevent?EFID=466&ESRC=CMS (https://www.rhs.org.uk/gardens/wisley/viewevent?EFID=466&ESRC=CMS)
 :)

Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: Leena on December 14, 2019, 01:54:02 PM
I am wondering about identity of this fern.
I have bought it as Dryopteris dilatata 'Stansfieldii', but can't find anything with that in internet. Maybe it is something else? Any ideas?
It is not big, maybe 20-25cm tall, and it loses it's leaves during winter, so that in the spring there are no leaves left.
The first picture was taken in September and the last picture last week.
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: ian mcdonald on December 14, 2019, 02:29:22 PM
Leena, D. dilitata should have scales on the stems and are usually tall, up to 150cm. Check to see if the leaves have spore cases underneath and their arrangement on the underside of the leaf. Ferns hybridise quite easily.
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: Leena on December 14, 2019, 03:05:17 PM
Ian, thank you.  :) I will look tomorrow, and take a picture next time it doesn't rain so much.
I have D.dilatata 'Whiteside' which is a tall plant, I will see if the spores in this plant are similar to it.
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: Gerdk on December 16, 2019, 09:36:30 AM
2 photos of Asplenium ceterach found in my hometown this month,
the species is extremely rare here in the northern part of Germany.
Gerd
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: shelagh on December 18, 2019, 02:24:17 PM
Wonderful pictures Gerd, I love to see it walking it's way along a wall in all the cracks and crevices.
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: Gerdk on December 18, 2019, 06:06:51 PM
Thank you Shelag! This occurence was nearly lost when the owner 'tiedied up' the wall. Fortunately he did this not very carefully
and the ferns sproutet again from their roots. After that the propietor was informed about the uniqueness of the site and so these
plants are relatively safe now.

Gerd
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: Leena on December 31, 2019, 01:09:08 PM
I am wondering about identity of this fern.
I have bought it as Dryopteris dilatata 'Stansfieldii', but can't find anything with that in internet. Maybe it is something else? Any ideas?
It is not big, maybe 20-25cm tall, and it loses it's leaves during winter, so that in the spring there are no leaves left.
The first picture was taken in September and the last picture last week.

Here is finally a picture of it's leaves now, and spores. Not a very good picture, I'm afraid. I will have to take a better one next summer.
I tried to compare it with my D.dilatata 'Whiteside' spores, but 'Whiteside' leaves had already died so I couldn't compare.
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: ian mcdonald on December 31, 2019, 04:02:59 PM
Leena, the spores look like those of D. dilitata. If the scales on the stems have a dark line down the centre this is also a feature of D. dilitata. The RHS Plant Finder 2019 lists Dryopteris dilitata Crispa Whiteside. I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Ferns 2019
Post by: Leena on January 01, 2020, 01:13:16 PM
Thank you Ian.  :) It seems that it is D.dilatata 'Stansfieldii' like the label said, though I can't find 'Stansfieldii' in the net.
It is a small fern (20-25cm), contrary to 'Whiteside' (or is it possibly 'Crispa Whiteside' like Ian wrote), which is a tall fern, maybe 80cm or close.
Here is a picture of my D.dilatata 'Whiteside' last July.
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