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Specific Families and Genera => Meconopsis => Topic started by: Maggi Young on February 17, 2014, 09:09:51 PM
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Not one we see very often - Meconopsis tibetica, described by C. Grey Wilson Alpine Gardener 74(2): 222 (-225; figs.). 2006 [Jun 2006]
Distribution: Tibet (China, Asia-Temperate)
Collector(s): Birks & Birks s.n. Locality: Between Dumba and Tsho Shau, near the latter
Collection Date: 2005-7-19
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photo from/Summerdale Garden Plants (http://www.summerdalegardenplants.co.uk)
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We were sent this photo by Margaret and David Thorne in 2005 - they were on the same trip with the Birks, if I remember correctly.
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Magnificent.
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Yes, indeed!
Very nice.
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A stunner indeed, and no doubt just as difficult (for many of us) to grow as its relatives....
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Hello all despite the very wet and cold weather ( we did have a day with some sunshine) the first Meconopsis are flowering this week it has been a very wet winter so have lost a lot of my stock plants will divide up what we have left later, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Everything is still in bud with me but after painting the shed and bower i'm having a Meconopsis cupcake made by my other half.
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That's as good as the real thing - and tastier!
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Aye I can confirm it was very tasty. Also first outing of mobile app.
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Meconopsis are just starting here. M. delavayi, from seed sown in 2010, and one of the fertile blues.
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Meconopsis flowering here
Meconopsis punicea
Meconopsis x cookei 'Old Rose'
Meconopsis which I used to know as x sheldonii 'Cruickshank' but now believed to be the same as 'Bobby Masterton'
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Lovely Meconopsis, Roma. I'm so envious. I've just bought M. cookei with two healthy buds from Edrom. Do you think I'd be safest to keep it in a pot rather than making to compete in very crowded borders? :-\
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oh yes, it's very very very small ;D (but I'm not a pot gardener).
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Not sure about growing Meconopsis x cookei long term in a pot, Margaret. I have found it to increase fast and need dividing frequently. I lost a number of plants because of the dry weather we had last summer. I divided the two survivors in February or March (it starts growing early). I replanted about 9 pieces and potted up about the same for plant sales. They have grown very well in pots and in the ground. If you are prepared to repot often and keep well watered I would keep it in a pot initially and plant out a bit when it gets big enough to divide which could be late summer or late winter.
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That's good advice, Roma, thank you. I'm amazed that they are so vigorous with you that you can divide them. I must concentrate on keeping them alive!
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Super picture of Meconopsis delavayi well done to get so many flowers as for M. x cookie I would plant it out get the roots into the ground, a few more flowering here with my M. delavayi only one flower, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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A few more Meconopsis showing buds and flowers just interesting we have a supposed M. betonicifolia from wild seed that is different to the other form known now as M, baileyi, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Another group of pictures taken this morning the weather has been cold and wet some flowers are more purple than others really getting good now, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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A few more, Ian
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Very nice Ian!!!
As Mec. Sichuan Silk is a named form -is this a perennial type of M. punicea?
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Lovely Meconopsis, Ian. Such a pleasure to see.
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As Mec. Sichuan Silk is a named form -is this a perennial type of M. punicea?
Is it the same as the 1/8th hybrid, or a different cross?
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Hello sorry should have said that M. punicea Sichuan silk is the perennial form flowering here since 2005 had some friends from Sweden this week and they tell me that big clumps of this form now grow in their garden it is superb here, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Hello again as far as I know this form is not a hybrid sets viable seed although not all offspring are perennial I have never crossed this with anything and all plants we sell are divisions from the original collection from 2003 did not flower till 2005, cheers Ian
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Hello sorry should have said that M. punicea Sichuan silk is the perennial form flowering here since 2005 had some friends from Sweden this week and they tell me that big clumps of this form now grow in their garden it is superb here, cheers Ian the Christie kind
Thanks Ian!
Good to hear that there's a perennial form.
Even better to hear that you have got it! ;)
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Hello again as far as I know this form is not a hybrid sets viable seed although not all offspring are perennial I have never crossed this with anything and all plants we sell are divisions from the original collection from 2003 did not flower till 2005, cheers Ian
Thank you from Sichuan as well! James Cobb once sent me pictures of one of his ([cookei x punicea] x punicea) hybrid, nicknamed "1/8th", and I wasn't sure if this was the same plant. Did your 'Sichuan Silk' originate from a 2003 wild collection, or from garden seeds?
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Home to find Meconopsis quintuplinerva out and M. punicea Sichuan Silk with a big bud.
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Alan - Wonderful to see those Meconopsis rarities. That's an impressive array of chimney pots on your potting shed.
johnw
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Alan - Wonderful to see those Meconopsis rarities. That's an impressive array of chimney pots on your potting shed.
johnw
Thanks John. Ha I hadn't noticed the chimneys. I actually put a new living roof on the shed Couple of weekends ago. The seeds are currently germinating merrily. Will post pictures when it's in full swing.
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Thanks John. Ha I hadn't noticed the chimneys. I actually put a new living roof on the shed Couple of weekends ago. The sreds are currently terminating merrily. Will post pictures when it's in full swing.
I thought erphaps you had bottom heat in there. ;)
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hello, I am going to post pictures of Meconopsis x sheldonii this cross was made recently by Les Drummond in Forfar and I know some people will not accept this as so many discussions have been heard about IS THIS the original collection NO but any hybrid between M. grandis and M, baileyi can have this name and I recognise the time effort and dedication that Les has made to produce this plant, I have grown it for 3 years first time flowering a superb colour and is going to be soundly perennial.
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What a wonderful depth of colour, well done Les Drummond.
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I am also growing M. baileyi just beginning to flower alongside the recently collected 'TRUE' M. betonicifolia not quite flowering will post both pictures later once the plants are open, I wonder how long will it be before these two get up to mischief and cross pollinate not only with each other but with anything else. I look forward to the Joint Rock meeting in Edinburgh when several RHS members from the south will be in attendance, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Another two pictures of Meconopsis Mop Head the flowers are almost 8inches across some more flowers come out each week for me stunning cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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A new Meconopsis found in a local garden now the last thing we need is more names (almost as bad as snowdrops) but this is a stunner such a deep rich blue big flowers on strong stems beats by far some of the other already named forms, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Ian:
A real blue. Can you take an image with something to show scale. I can't grow them here and only the Welsh poppy, Meconopsis cambrica does well.
Thanks,
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That is a beautiful meconopsis. I have had difficulty getting them to grow but since joining SRGC I have started to learn more about them. I have waited at least three years to see this meconopsis. I think it is from wysiwyg seeds bought at an Edinburgh SRGC Show (before I became a member). I was expecting pink but I'm delighted with it. Can anyone can tell me what it is exactly and how I propagate it. The evergreen leaves have been a delight but since I noticed it looked as if there was a flower bud coming it seemed to take forever to flower. I have been taking photos regularly.
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I'd suggest M. paniculata. If so then it's monocarpic so be sure to save (& sow ;)) seeds.
It has a magnificent rosette, doesn't it?
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Hello Arnold, the Meconopsis picture shows some canes to help hold up the flowers these are 6ft pushed into the ground so plants are around 4ft plus, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Ian:
thanks bigger than I thought.
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Meconopsis Lingholm from Susan at Pitcairn, trying some details today.
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Hi Ashley, sorry for not getting back to you more quicky but I am having computer problems. I have checked out Meconopsis paniculata and it does seem to be that one. It has a spectacular rosette. It is 44" across and the stem is 39" high. I was interested to read that the one in Ian Christies photos is staked. I think it might be wise to do the same with mine. Thank you for your help.
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I now have the Meconopsis betonicifolia flowering much later than the M. baileyi the M. betonicifolia is over 5ft tall with flower buds all the way up the stem has rounded petals a really nice Blue with M. baileyi more open flowers and a pale blue just over 4 ft high will post more pictures one the rest of the flowers are open , cheers Ian the Christie kind
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You just can't beat this plant 8). There are so many plants on this forum that I would love to grow but can't but this we can aren't we so lucky. Ian thanks for sharing you're lovely Meconopsis.
Angie :)
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Hello again we have had a scorching hot day so more flowers have opened on the new Mec. betonicifolia please note the new flowers have only 4 petals the first flowers can often look double this is caused by so much energy within the flower spike the first flowers have extra petals super blue, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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The real betonicifolia looks to be a real beauty Ian!!!
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Morning Steve, the new M. betonicifolia is stoloniferous have divided it up so plants soon, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Tweeted by John Mitchell from RBGE -
Meconopsis dhwojii
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I grew this from SRGC seed. My label says M. horridula but an internet search says it should be blue. Anyone know what I've got and whether or not it is monocarpic? It's the first Meconopsis I've managed to grow from seed to flowering and so I'm feeing quite proud though it's nothing compared to the wonderful blue plants on the forum.
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That is a beauty, Margaret - Meconopsis napaulensis ( of hort. rather than the wild species - these hybrids come in all sorts of lovely colours - see these photos on James Cobb's site :
http://meconopsisworld.blogspot.co.uk/2005/02/meconopsis-napaulensis-photos-in-garden.html (http://meconopsisworld.blogspot.co.uk/2005/02/meconopsis-napaulensis-photos-in-garden.html) )
I'm afraid it will be monocarpic - but tickle the flowers and you should get seed.
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Thank you, Maggi. James Cobbs' site has lovely photos. I'm drooling!
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I grew this from SRGC seed. My label says M. horridula but an internet search says it should be blue. Anyone know what I've got and whether or not it is monocarpic? It's the first Meconopsis I've managed to grow from seed to flowering and so I'm feeing quite proud though it's nothing compared to the wonderful blue plants on the forum.
Yes definately a M. napaulensis of hort. as Maggie said - with a good bit of M. staintonii in its parentage from the looks of it.
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Thank you, Alan. Another plant is going to flower in a week or two. Will post a photo if it shows different traits.
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We have managed to get all our plants back in the garden from the SRGC display, had a shower of rain yesterday which was great. I am posting the latest picture of Meconopsis betonicifolia which was recently collected it is now 5ft 6inches tall loads of flowers very nice dark colour have made some divisions as I am sure it will hybridise with others maybe get seed later, also a picture of Meconopsis punicea Sichuan Silk the perennial form which has been stunning this year, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Stunning Mecs Ian!!!
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Another really heavy downpour here today just great for the plants had time to take more pictures M. punicea Sichuan silk showing the extra petals and M. Jimmy Bayne showing colour variations due to weather changes, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Hello we have re-planted all the Meconopsis from the SRGC stand in Edinburgh have had a real good thunderstorm yesterday with so much rain more again today but the Meconopsis love that anyway a few more flowering last week, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Almost hopeless trying to grow them here in our sub-Mediterranean climate, but I must try again sometime.
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Great pictures Ian. We had sudden monsoon downpours at the weekend which ripped the flower heads of several of my exposed Meconopsis. It was if someone had fired a shotgun through them. However there were several left in bud which should be flowering soon
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One of mine from a few days ago and the same one today but I have no idea what it is.
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One of mine from a few days ago and the same one today but I have no idea what it is.
M. baileyi most probably from the looks of it.
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M. baileyi most probably from the looks of it.
Very likely - but whatever it is , it's a bosker! I count at least 14 flowers :o 8)
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Susan at Pitcairn Alpines has meconopsis, primula and omphalogramma plug plants for sale - http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11615.msg307024#msg307024 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11615.msg307024#msg307024)
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Very likely - but whatever it is , it's a bosker! I count at least 14 flowers :o 8)
Thanks Maggi,
15 actually with two more to open. Unfortunately today's downpour has removed most so the photos were taken on the right day. I can't believe some of the downpours we have had over the past few weeks. This is the best stem Ive ever had from this one.
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I agree with Meconopsis baileyi a good form as well, yet more thunderstorms last nigh very wet thank goodness no hail but nearly, cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Thanks Alan and Ian.
Always nice to have an ID.
Graham
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SRGC member Robin Hill and his wife Edwina garden at the north edge of Dartmoor. They often open their garden for charity and have a lovely Twitter page which features their flowers - many of which seem to have been sourced from Macplants (http://t.co/NuUqXot96G)!
Do take a look at their tweets to see what plants are doing well in their garden in Belstone.
Here are two shots of Meconopsis 'Willie Duncan' - the first from May 22nd and the next from June 13th, showing the changing colours of this lovely perennial poppy.
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Edwina and Robin's photos can be seen here (https://twitter.com/edwinarobinhill)
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Meconopsis 'Willie Duncan' is named for one of Scotland's most knowledgeable and friendly horticulturists. Many will have enjoyed Willie's no-nonsense talks and advice on the Beechgrove Potting Shed radio programme in the past. He has an immenseknowledge about a huge range of plants ( - and other things - for example poultry!) and is a terrific communicator of that experience. One of nature's true gentleman, Willie and his partner Barbara live in Fife.
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A lovely meconopsis today at the Explorer's garden in Pitlochry
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- don't miss Panayoti Kelaidis short video from the Explorers Garden on another thread :D
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I was at friends' garden today and their Meconopsis were in flower. They believe they have but one cultivar and I think it might be 'Jimmy Bayne'. Not that I could describe JB but only because the original source grew JB and propagated it frequently. They are not certain if it sets viable seed. Any thoughts?
johnw
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'Jimmy Bayne' has been named in some nursery sites as being one of the "fertile blue group" but the Meconopsis Group disagrees......
here's a link to a Mec.org article: http://www.meconopsis.org/miscdocs/FS03_JBayneBarneyB.pdf (http://www.meconopsis.org/miscdocs/FS03_JBayneBarneyB.pdf)
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Thanks Maggi. The jury I reckon will be out until seed ripening time.
Isn't it wonderful to have pictures of those for whom the plants are named!
johnw
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Meconopsis punicea flowering at the beginning of this month.
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It's heartbreaking that this species is almost exclusively monocarpic. The one exception is Ian Christie's wonderful "Sichuan Silk" which I now have a plant of -many thanks Ian!
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Beautiful picture, Steve.
One of mine flowering now
Meconopsis chelidonifolia, a pity it falls over and has to be staked.
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Meconopsis horridula sown in 2013 and planted out this Spring. The dry weather early on meant they did not grow much till late summer and this one decided to flower now.
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What a pleasant surprise for this time of year- it's well flowered isn't it? 8)
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I have had the same experience with two plants of Meconopsis aff. impedita (from Björnar Olsen) which have several flower buds now. We have had a very warm and dry summer.
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Trying to flower now
Meconopsis horridula (or is it prattii) a white form. Pity it's so late, it is unlikely to set seed.