Dactylorhiza "Eskimo Nell"

[annew]

Hello Tony,

congratulations, that's very good news. May I join the waiting list, please, for when you eventually feel you can part with one?

I'll join you in the queue!

[mark smyth]

here's a thought about propagating Dactylorhiza

We all know they will produce 1,2 or 3 new tubers if the new tuber is removed in July. What would happen if the new tuber was sliced in two down through the nose and in to the tuber or maybe slicing the tuber in half? Obviously putting charcoal or sulphur flowers on the cut or maybe allowing it to dry out.

Is there  a possibility it would grown on and be OK? What do you think? I'm going to experiment this year or maybe send some to a lab for them to experiment with.

[Maren]

Hi, I've only ever sliced a dactylorhiza tuber by accident with a spade and was too annoyed with myself to apply scientific rigour to the result. As far as I can recall, it did not come up next year, probably because I didn't dust the cut with sulphur or cinnamon.  

[K Andrzejewski]

Registration is necessary on Berthold Gross forum:
http://www.orchideenkultur.net/index.php
,but is worth to see one of the "most-horrible" method "how to cut Dactylorhiza tuber" to gain a dozen new ones.
After registration - you go to "Orchideenvermehrung und Kultur" -  "Vegetative Vermehrung" and "Sterile Vermehrung adulter Dactylorhiza ".
Good luck
Kristof

[Neil]

I do have the article translated into English if you want it .  But you will have to wait as it is my laptop which is being repaired.

[mark smyth]

Google chrome translates the page. After work I must re read it

[Maren]

hi,
sounds more like a horror story to me.

[goofy]

hello,
as far as I remember the 'Eskimo Nell'
is a hybrid with the okellyi and foliosa as parents, made by G. Mundey

I had some problems in the past 2 years,
so this picture is from the last flowering season 2010.

Dactylorhiza Eskimo Nell


enjoy

[K Andrzejewski]

There is one definitely strong thing against Dact.maculata/fuchsii - leaves of "Eskimo Nell" are plain. I don't know if okellyi is now separate species or still officialy this is Dact.fuchsii subsp.okellyi, but according to the Harrap's "Orchids of Britain and Ireland" and Bauman&Kuenkele&Lorenz "Die Orchideen Europas" - leaves of okellyi are unspotted. On the other side I can't imagine no sign of deep red-purple colour of Dactylorhiza foliosa in such hybride, but... who knows...
Pictures of "Eskimo Nell" from today


- and great St.Patrick Day for all Irish Orchids lovers 
Regards -
Kristof

[goofy]

...........On the other side I can't imagine no sign of deep red-purple colour of Dactylorhiza foliosa in such hybride, but... who knows...

............so just "remake " it, you will see, what happens.   

I think it is a "white" selected clone from that cross

cheers

[brianw]

As a retired chemist (mostly in metals and minerals, not organic) I guess I should have some idea of the answer to this question, but assuming we have samples of the possible plants that may have contributed to this "cross", can we now "examine" Eskimo Nell and determine scientifically which were her parents?

[Neil]

Yes you can use DNA sampling to determine the parants

[K Andrzejewski]

As a retired chemist (mostly in metals and minerals, not organic) ...

Brian - then you know that minerals from tennantite-tetrahedrite series are not to identify without analysis and sometimes contain completely different metals?
Problem is - all "alba" members of Dactylorhiza are without spots on leaves and we have to focus on flowers only. If we try to compare "Eskimo Nell" with for example - Dactylorhiza maculata subsp.transsilvanica
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/Dactylorhiza_transsilvanica_Bel%C4%8Dji_vrh.jpg
(and with white maculata from Russia-Finland border presented on the end of February) - what's conclusion? But I still hope that you can answer my old question who is Gerry Munday??
Kristof

P.S.

............so just "remake " it, you will see, what happens.

- I'm on the sunflower-seeds level now

[Maggi Young]

 But I still hope that you can answer my old question who is Gerry Munday??
Kristof

Kristof, Gerry Mundey ( note spelling) was an English grower who was famous for the many fine plants he raised. These include primulas and pleiones. Quite a few plants are named for him and may he raised were gien the name of his garden, Tinney's, located south of Salisbury.... so there is 'Tinney's Rose ' etc.
I will search to see if I can find some articles about him to tell you more.

[Maggi Young]

Here is an article written about Gerry Mundey  by David Sampson  from SRGC Journal #87 :
One Man - One Wood,(Gerry Mundey) Sampson, D. : 87/215