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Re: Mystery composite and crucifer
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2007, 01:09:27 PM »
OK, as far as I can work out our flick weed here looks just like (and I am assuming IS) Cardamine hirsuta......
http://www.dgsgardening.btinternet.co.uk/hairybcrs.htm
Also known as Hairy Bittercress apparently.

The leaves on yours look a little different, but close enough and similar enough seedpod etc that I'd have to be putting it very closely into the same family.  Does that help you in identification?

« Last Edit: September 28, 2007, 02:24:21 PM by Maggi Young »
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Re: Mystery composite and crucifer
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2007, 01:47:42 PM »
Thanks Paul, I'm unfortunately well acquainted with Hairy Bittercress - we call it poppers. This plant was altogether bigger.
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Re: Mystery composite and crucifer
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2007, 02:19:34 PM »
Anne
is it an Erucastrum gallicum - sometimes called hairy rocket? http://www.colinherb.com/Cruciferae/Erucastrum/Gallicum/Erucastrum_gallicum.htm
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Re: Mystery composite.and crucifer
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2007, 05:27:02 PM »
Hmm, no, the leaves are different.
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Re: Mystery composite.and crucifer
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2007, 05:33:22 PM »
Funny thing,is, the leaves of the mystery crucifer are very like a ragwort of some sort, aren't they?
How clever nature is at confusing us... almost as cunning as those ******taxonomists! ;D
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Re: Mystery composite.and crucifer
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2007, 07:15:09 PM »
Could be Wintercress (Barbarea vulgaris), but then again it has glossy leaves?
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Re: Mystery composite.and crucifer
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2007, 07:43:04 PM »
Perhaps Eastern Rocket (Sisymbrium orientale)?


edit: as a suggestion for the composite ?
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Re: Mystery composite.and crucifer
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2007, 10:00:17 PM »
Anne,

Ah well, I was right..... I got it wrong.  Not having a good run for helping at the moment.  That's 3 recent strikes, so I'm out!!  ;D
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Re: Mystery composite.and crucifer
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2007, 10:46:06 PM »
You are suffering under the disadvantage of being several thousand miles away from the British flora, Paul!
Anthony I think this one is Barbarea verna, maybe?
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Re: Mystery composite.and crucifer
« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2007, 09:21:54 AM »
Looks like Wavy Bitter-cress (Cardamine flexuosa)

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Re: Mystery composite.and crucifer
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2007, 11:00:00 AM »
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That's 3 recent strikes, so I'm out!!
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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2007, 01:57:09 PM »
I thought you said the flowers were yellow Anne?
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Re: Mystery composite.and crucifer
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2007, 10:30:07 PM »
Well, I think I saw yellow flowers on another plant of it. Google's pics of Cardamine flexuosa don't have the right leaves either :-\
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Re: Mystery composite.and crucifer
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2007, 04:50:47 PM »
Ann I am most likely being a complete IDIOT but it lokks very much like water cress, I have it in my pond and if it gets to thick I throw it on spare ground and it grows just like that.

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Re: Mystery composite.and crucifer
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2007, 04:53:09 PM »
I see what you mean, Derek, but I think the leaves are too hairy for water cress.
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