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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2012, 03:32:51 PM »
I really like David's little hyacinthellas - I've only tried these outside on a raised bed but have not managed to establish them. They are so small that they are probably better in pots. We do grow a lot of muscari in the garden and they associate very well with other bulbs. They are always so early in leaf which is a bit disconcerting. In the garden some do show yellowing of the leaf tips, though it doesn't seem to set them back. One of the most exquisite, a delicate little gem, is M. mcbeathianum. I hope I get a few flowers to post of this later on.
Cheers for that Tim,i am probably worrying for nothing.
I am always very pleased when this little gem surfaces
Art that is a little stunner very nice indeed.
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2012, 05:01:38 PM »
What is it, Art?
MINIONS! I need more minions!
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2012, 05:04:20 PM »
Possibly anatolicum
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2012, 05:43:59 PM »
I am always very pleased when this little gem surfaces
I thought it was M.discolor Art when i first saw it.
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2012, 05:46:55 PM »
I am always very pleased when this little gem surfaces
I thought it was M.discolor Art when i first saw it.

And you are right  8)
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2012, 05:50:54 PM »
I am always very pleased when this little gem surfaces
I thought it was M.discolor Art when i first saw it.

They are very similar.  I hope to flower a known discolor later - we can compare
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2012, 07:32:37 PM »
Thank you Oron. Nice to see what my millengenii will look like.
David do find this group of plants easy to cultivate(Hyacinthellas),i am having a problem with some of muscari this year the tips of the leaves are yellowing,can't think why,i am doing just the same as i have done in previous years.

Dave,

Not difficult at all really, they get same understated attention that everything else in my greenhouse gets. ;D  I've noticed one or two things in the greenhouse, mainly little Narcissus, with yellow tips on the leaves (as have some in the garden) and I would guess, perhaps, at low light levels. I wonder if Ian Young might have an answer for this problem.
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2012, 08:23:31 PM »
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I wonder if Ian Young might have an answer for this problem.
Dunno.... I'll ask him.
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2012, 08:25:55 PM »
Ta Maggi
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2012, 08:47:04 PM »
I second that,thanks Maggie
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2012, 09:03:05 PM »
While yellow tips to the leaves is not fully healthy it is not always too bad.
Lastyear at this time that was the first indication that I had of the frost damage caused to the roots and bulbs but that is unlikely to be the cause in the UK this year so far.
Drying at the root could cause the problem . Lack of light shows up at the bottom of the leaves as they come through the soil.
If the yellow is just at the extreme tip it may just be the old bits of the leaf dying back slightly but if the yellow continues to spread downwards there must be a cause at the bulb or root.
Treatment, make sure that the bulbs are not too dry.
Just to add more confusion if the bulbs are too wet the symptoms are the same as the roots can only take up water when there is air around them. Also prolonged periods of excess moisture can cause wet rot in the roots, bulb plus the underground parts of the leaves and stems.
I have a few Crocus and Narcissus with yellow tips that I am watching carefully and apart from the yellowing I see no other major problem in them so far.
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2012, 10:14:47 AM »
Many thanks Ian, I'll continue to keep an eye on them.
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2012, 10:21:53 AM »
A big thank you from me as well,Ian can i ask can to much nutrient cause a similar symptom,i wasn't careful with the bonemeal,could i have overloaded with it?
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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2012, 11:53:37 AM »
I'll get Ian back to this.
 Some comments in another thread, (where Diane C is worring about a possible Stagonospora curtisii infection) have raised doubts in my mind that we have been discussing the same typre of "yellowing tips"
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8423.0


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Re: Muscari ...... and relatives 2012
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2012, 12:24:10 PM »
Maggie we are on the same page  i suppose yellowing tips on snowdrops are a different thing to yellow tips on my muscari,i'll take pics later.
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