Question to David and anyone else who grows the "winter" flowering pleione. Are they really late this year? My Wharfedale Pine Warbler is just about to open, compared with a normal flowering time of November. Barcena is much the same, with colour just appearing in the buds, though normally they open well before Christmas. As for Tarawera I think some of the "spring" flowering types such as humilis might beat it. I know that the flowering times of these crosses are all variable depending on the clone, but my bulbs are all from a single individual so it's not genetics causing this.