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Kees Jan

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Plants from NE Turkey
« on: June 04, 2007, 06:48:41 PM »
I'm attaching a picture of either Androsace albana or ameniaca, photographed at Zigana Pass, south of Artvin. Can anyone help me with the correct name?
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Re: Plants from NE Turkey
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2007, 12:37:56 PM »
Kees Jan,
I think it is Androsace albana. Great pictures of interesting plants, enjoyed them!
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Re: Plants from NE Turkey
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2007, 07:08:02 PM »
Thanks Franz,

Here are a few more mystery pictures from NE Turkey: two ferns, an Anaphalis, a Corydalis, an Epimedium and a tree. All photographed on the 6th of May, between Trabzon and a mountain valley above Ortacalar. The two ferns are both from low altitude, the first within 60 metres of the Black Sea and the second from a few kilometres inland, in a dry-stone wall bordering a tea plantation. The other plants are all from woodland at (sub)alpine elevations near Ortacalar.
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Re: Plants from NE Turkey
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2007, 02:55:05 AM »
A lovely selection Kees Jan, especially the Corydalis. Could the last one be a Tilia (lime) species perhaps?
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Re: Plants from NE Turkey
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2007, 10:06:05 PM »
Hi Lesley, I don't think it's a Tilia. The leaves are somewhat similar to lime but they are opposite rather than alternate as in Tilia. I don't have a clue what it could be though; I don't even recognise the family!
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Re: Plants from NE Turkey
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2007, 09:36:23 PM »
This Chrysosplenium with opposite leaves photographed near Sümela Monastery (south of Trabzon) must be Chrysosplenium dubium (syn. macrocarpum). According to the Flora of Turkey this is the only Turkish Chrysosplenium with opposite leaves.
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Re: Plants from NE Turkey
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2007, 09:51:29 PM »
Dear Kees,
I guess your unknown tree (from June 5th) is Staphylea colchica (Staphyleaceae).
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Re: Plants from NE Turkey
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2007, 10:23:36 AM »
Your tree is a Spindle Tree (Euonymus latifolius) Kees.
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Re: Plants from NE Turkey
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2007, 02:31:03 PM »
Thanks Gerd and Anthony for your suggestions. I have had a look at Staphylea pictures and it is definitely a Staphylea, probably S. colchica, perhaps S. pinnata (?).
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Re: Plants from NE Turkey
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2007, 12:05:43 AM »
I think you are right Kees? A closer inspection shows the compound leaves, not present in Euonymus.
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Re: Plants from NE Turkey
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2007, 12:12:51 AM »
That's another one solved but here are a few new pictures...

I think the Androsace is albana again but this population near Camlibel Gecidi (2640 a.s.l.) (just west of Ardahan) has darker petals and shorter flower stems. The green fritillary is from the same location.

The Viola and Omphalodes are from a mountain valley above Ortacalar.

The Petrocallis (is it?) and Pulsatilla are from Sogani Geçidi (2230m) near Bayburt.

The other fritillary is from high altitude in the Karagöl Dağlari south of Erzurum, I think the rock type is serpentine. The fern, a Cheilanthes species, is from the same mountain.
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