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Anthony Darby
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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Reply #30 on:
April 23, 2007, 09:00:15 PM »
Henk,
Cypripedium parviflorum pubescens
cannot be confused with
C. calceolus
. The former is North American and the latter Eurasian.
Derek, your 'Ulla Silkens' is much earlier than mine. If that is your last, do you have any pics of the earlier ones?
Hans (Austria), my 'Sabine' flowers are about 12 cm across the tepal tips. It is the biggest one I have.
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Anthony Darby, Auckland, New Zealand.
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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April 23, 2007, 10:59:28 PM »
Derek is Your Ulla Silkens that Yellow?
If so then You are one of the luckt ones since it is more often in white with red markings. red dots and Yellow!
That is one to hope for.
Thanks for showing and sharing. BTW did You choose Yours in bloom or was it before it bloomed that You chose it?
Henk the old name was calceolus var pubecens but it is now agreed that it is NOT calceolus at al even if it is yellow and brownish.
I think there are even discussions if it is parviflorum var pubescens or just pubescens. Nice pic thanks for showing.
Adarby with the parents being fasciolatum and macrathos, Sabine has the potentials to be big. It seems as hybrids of fasciolatum get BIG flowers even bigger than fasciolatum itself (unless the other is a small flower). I prefer Your white red flower rather than the one at Frosch webpage with a yelow and white. With macranthos as one of the parents the colour can vary a bit I presume. Thanks for the size info.
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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Quote from: ellenndan on April 23, 2007, 06:04:41 PM
Thanks Maggi i am Dan who is 26.
I have always thought you were ellen
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We are both Ellen and Dan.
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We are both Ellen and Dan
makes me think of 'Seven of Nine' , somehow!
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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April 24, 2007, 06:41:06 PM »
Here is my first cyp C Fasciolatum .
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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April 24, 2007, 06:57:53 PM »
Joakim, Yes that is about the right colour.
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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Great Cyp fasciolatum Ian.
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Rob
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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April 25, 2007, 02:54:21 PM »
Hi
Here is a photo of Cypripedium Ingrid.
It is growing in a raised bed in the garden.
I bought it last year and protected it from the rain over winter, and this year it is going to have 4 flowers, so it must be happy.
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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April 25, 2007, 06:38:45 PM »
An ordinary Cyp calceolus from Austria, or isn't it?
Cyp
??
Cyp guttatum,
Cyp x ventricosum
Cyp x froschii
Hans
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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April 25, 2007, 08:02:24 PM »
Hans, does this
calceolus
always have yellow tepals? I have seen pics of this form before. Your second one reminds me of
Cypripedium
'Emil'?
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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April 25, 2007, 08:07:13 PM »
Yes, this calceolus is always pure yellow! You can sometimes find such Cyp calceolus (albus) in Austria.
Hans
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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April 25, 2007, 08:30:25 PM »
It is unusual and a form I will have to look out for. I have three clumps of
calceolus
. Two, from different sources, are very similar. The third, which is labelled 'Kunashir', which sounds as if it is in the 'Far East' (Edinburgh?). It has two shoots with flower buds so I will see it flower for the first time in a week or two.
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Anthony Darby, Auckland, New Zealand.
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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April 25, 2007, 08:58:16 PM »
Hans (Johannes)
Nice pictures.
Regarding Your second I would dare to think it is a natural hybrid between calceolus and shanxiense.
Atleast the color fits the color of Yours. See the below link from Frosch.
http://www.w-frosch.onlinehome.de/calsha.htm
I think Emil is Yellow with only little red around the lip since both parents are yellow but I might be wrong only seen it on pictures.
http://www.w-frosch.onlinehome.de/emil.htm
I first thought Your first was a pubicens but then it can not be growing wild in Austria. I think the yellow calceolus sometimes are known as calceolus var flavum but am not sure.
Thanks for sharing
Kind regards
Joakim
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Re: Cypripedium 2007
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April 25, 2007, 09:07:58 PM »
Hans (Johannes)
Since I am in my guessing mode I would like to say that the one in an earlier post
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=422.msg11003#msg11003
Might be a cross between a x ventricosum and calceolus or a "man made" Ventricosum or calceolus x macranthos as Malmgren likes to call them.
Or maybe You are right in it being a x ventricosum.
Here are some pics on it from Frosch
http://www.w-frosch.onlinehome.de/ventr.htm
Sorry for the late reply but it is only a guess from my side any way.
Kind regards
Joakim
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