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Gene Mirro

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A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« on: February 15, 2007, 03:57:01 AM »
Out of several dozen seedlings, I have two with fuzzy leaves.  The photo shows a "normal" and a fuzzy one.  Can anyone tell me what this is all about?
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2007, 08:53:33 PM »
It looks very nice Gene and is almost certainly a hybrid with another species. BUT..... are you absolutely sure the other is C. darwinii (syn uniflora)? I ask because it looks rather like what I have received several times including last year, from both SRGC and AGS as darwinii but which turned out to be either falklandica or possibly biflora. Both nice plants but not of the quality of darwinii.
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2007, 09:21:43 PM »
I think your right Lesley it almost certain a hybrid or a another specie, maybe C.tenella.
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2007, 09:51:00 PM »
Not tenella, as that is very tiny and creeping, mat/forming. The individual leaves are about 5mm across or even less. I got tenella too last year as the same species as what the darwinii was. Very frustrating.
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2007, 06:23:46 AM »
I know they are C. darwini, because I collected the seed from my own plants in the mid-eighties, and had the seed in cold storage until last fall.   It sounds like you guys are having a tough time getting seed that is true to name.  If I can keep them going, I'll collect lots of seed, and make it available.   
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2007, 11:17:57 PM »
You mean these are seedlings NOW from seed collected in the mid 80s? Like 20 years ago? Wow. If you're sure about them being darwinii, then I'd still say the fuzzy one is a hybrid. but I guess you'll know for sure when they flower. Maybe there is some genetic ability to produce hairs. I know several men who would like to have the same gene, Gene.

And yes, it's really difficult to source the genuine thing through the seedlists. I wish you the best of luck with seed collection.
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2007, 01:50:27 AM »
Dry seed stored at 0F will remain viable indefinitely.  Even incredibly tiny seeds like Ramonda are good after 15 years.  It's amazing. 
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2007, 05:17:19 PM »
Just a picture of Calceolaria that was flowering today


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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2007, 02:06:41 AM »
Here is a non-fuzzy one in bloom.  It looks like darwini/uniflora to me.  What do you think?

The plant is from seed sown on 10/23/06.  No dormant period was required for bloom; they grew right through the winter in the cool greenhouse.
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2007, 02:12:06 AM »
Here is a closeup of the flower.
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2007, 12:06:29 PM »
Fine healthy babies you have there, Gene!
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2007, 11:12:38 PM »
The pictured plant looks to me like what I grew as darwinii but in the event, turned out to be a darwinii/fothergillii cross which is `Walter Shrimpton' of course, but shouldn't be called that if they were seedlings FROM 'Walter Shrimpton.' I know darwinii (uniflora) varies, but to this extent? Whatever, it's very nice. Gene are those tiny white flecks the shed skins of aphis? If so, do give it a squirt with an insecticide or it'll be gone before you notice.

I always think it's significant that the USA regulatory body which apparently governs the importation of seed, is called APHIS. :)
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2007, 11:28:57 AM »
I have received this images from Rudi Weiss, who is as sure as he can be that this represents a pure Calceolaria darwinii. Rudi tells me "Calceolarias are one of my favourite plants and so I think, that Gene 's plant is some hybrid. Our good nurseryman Gerd Stopp collected seeds in Argentinia and distributed these wonderful plants, which I photogaphed last year.
In comparison with many publications I think this is the true species. "
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2007, 05:58:12 PM »
I have decided to name my plants the Pretender series.  If anyone wants seed, let me know.  If anyone can spare some seed of true C. darwinii, I will grow them and distribute the seed next Spring.
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Re: A fuzzy Calceolaria darwinii !
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2007, 10:39:53 PM »
Oh yes, that's it all right. Isn't is utterly scrumptious!
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