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Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« on: November 17, 2014, 05:51:16 AM »
Some pics from this summer and autumn, IDs would be greatly appreciated  :)

I'll start with the one that's  not  from Nujiang, but from Tianchi lake in Zhongdian. Rhododendron phaeochrysum?



From the western slopes of BiluoXueshan, near Fugong;

Small epiphytic species on fallen tree, 3200m:





Larger species growing on soggy slope, 3750m:






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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 05:53:14 AM »
Lovely red growing on Heipushan, between Gongshan and Dulongjiang, 3350m:


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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 06:17:18 AM »
...and finally, species growing at Yaping Yakou, at the Myanmar border, near Fugong (all around 3650m):

Rh. campylogynum:




Rh. mekongense?:




...and the rest I'd rather leave for  the experts:

Yaping type 1:





Yaping 2, presumably a well fed version of the species above?



Yaping  3, same species, different colour form:



Yaping 4:




Yaping 5:




Yaping 6:





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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2014, 07:50:12 AM »
They look like good garden plants, especially the peachy coloured one next to the lilium. If you need names try Jens neilson, he will probably know. I think he has just started at a garden which grows a lot of rodos from wild seed.
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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 09:23:59 AM »
Bjornar, I hope Johnw, will be able to help and he  may be so kind as to contact Jens Birck and Jens Neilson  and others to help  :)
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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 12:21:17 PM »
I'll advise Jens Birck.

The yellow is certainly mekongense var. melinanthum The red in the cliff neriiflorum or sanguineum - time of year?  The first photo yes I'd agree phaeo but underside would determine the var.  Yaping 1-4 either dichroanthum or aperantum, likely the former.  The epiphyte looks a bit like moupinense but I won't commit.  The dwarf purple is Maggi's realm keleticum or a Saluenensia.

This is one of Jens Nielsen's haunts but he is away I think.

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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 02:26:01 PM »
The red in the cliff neriiflorum or sanguineum - time of year?

Thanks! Pictures from Dulongjiang and flowers in Yaping June 29th to June 30th, so presumably R. sanguineum?

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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 04:34:10 PM »
Jens Birck says "I agree with all the names you have come up with.  re: the "aganniphum/pharochryseum" it is as you say, one has to have it
in one's hands to guess anything"   

That cliff-dwelling sanguineum is likely sanguineum ssp sanguineum.

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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 07:18:46 PM »
Bjornar, you don't mention the little lily or the lovely blue thing with Rh. campylogynum. Is that a Codonopsis?
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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2014, 09:00:18 AM »
Jens Birck says "I agree with all the names you have come up with.  re: the "aganniphum/pharochryseum" it is as you say, one has to have it
in one's hands to guess anything"   

Thank you very much for this! Regarding the R. moupinense, wouldn't Nujiang be too far southwest? If I go back next summer and it's still there I'll try to get more pictures.

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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2014, 09:13:09 AM »
Bjornar, you don't mention the little lily or the lovely blue thing with Rh. campylogynum. Is that a Codonopsis?

I thought I had posted the lily already, but it's quite lovely so I'll post it again here  :) The blue would be an Anemone of some sort, but it was raining so hard I couldn't get a good picture of it.
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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2014, 10:55:01 AM »
I thought I had posted the lily already, but it's quite lovely so I'll post it again here  :) The blue would be an Anemone of some sort, but it was raining so hard I couldn't get a good picture of it.
Looks a nice picture to me - maybe Anemone truliifola?
The lily is to die for beautiful!

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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2014, 12:30:19 PM »
Only "looks a bit like moupinense" with the red buds, I should have said I have no idea what it is.

Where do the new EU regulations leave the seedexs of those who collect in the wild?  I see the RHS Rhodo Group has suspended all sales of newly cw seed.

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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2014, 06:40:47 PM »
I thought I had posted the lily already, but it's quite lovely so I'll post it again here  :) The blue would be an Anemone of some sort, but it was raining so hard I couldn't get a good picture of it.
Is it Lilium yapingense?
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Re: Nujiang Rhodos - ID please (picture heavy)
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2014, 02:15:59 AM »
JohnW;  all names and nudges in the right direction are appreciated, I'm terrible at identifying Rhodos, there's just too many of them - especially in this area.

John R.; Yes, that's L. yapingense. There's a new species of Nomocharis growing in the same area, a giant compared to the lily, with some  plants nearly 2 meters tall.

 


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