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Primula- January 2008
« on: January 14, 2008, 07:18:32 PM »
A few pictures from the greenhouse today.

The first is Primula x juliana Bergfruhling Red which was originally a strain developed from Jellito seed. My plant is now two years old and was grown from seed purchased from Fiedlhouse Alpines. It was the only seedling left worth saving from a batch the window cleaner managed to knock over and then walked over them with his size 12's. I notice that I posted a picture of the same plant on 22 February last year.

The second is a blue Cowichan Polyanthus I grew from Barnhaven seed sown on 19 February last year, and the third is a red Cowichan from the same source. Although I have grown better plants these are significantly better than the ones I have in the garden which are looking very weather beaten.

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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2008, 07:26:22 PM »
That red cowichan looks like silk !
Nice batch David
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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2008, 10:19:54 PM »
A few pictures from the greenhouse today.

The first is Primula x juliana Bergfruhling Red which was originally a strain developed from Jellito seed. My plant is now two years old and was grown from seed purchased from Fiedlhouse Alpines. It was the only seedling left worth saving from a batch the window cleaner managed to knock over and then walked over them with his size 12's. I notice that I posted a picture of the same plant on 22 February last year.

David, that's a nice type of the juliae hybrids. But I think once planted out in the garden after a few years you will have a different plant through self-seeding. The only remedy will be at least every two years to divide them and shake the seedlings out.
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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2008, 10:02:25 AM »

David, that's a nice type of the juliae hybrids. But I think once planted out in the garden after a few years you will have a different plant through self-seeding. The only remedy will be at least every two years to divide them and shake the seedlings out.

Luit, I don't think it is worth the hassle really. The self sown seedlings might be interesting in any case, but the original seed is cheap enough for me to grow a new stock every year.
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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2008, 12:18:20 PM »
Sorry David, I was speaking as a perennial plantsman ;)
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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2008, 12:24:29 PM »
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I was speaking as a perennial plantsman
As I hope you ARE indeed, Luit! :-*
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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2008, 12:50:39 PM »
Here is Primula megaseifolia from the Pontus range, Turkey. This species has a very long flowering periode, sometimes beginning at the end of October and ending in March.

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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2008, 01:41:39 PM »
Sorry David, I was speaking as a perennial plantsman ;)

Hi Luit, I appreciate that. My problem is always keeping garden Primulas healthy through the Summer months (when we get a Summer!!). They all, apart from P.vulgaris, suffer very badly.

Nice P. megaseifolia Gerd.
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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2008, 04:41:17 PM »
 :-* Oh Maggi  mmm.


That'a nice Prim. Gerd, I never tried it because it would not like our soil.
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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2008, 07:58:27 PM »
That'a nice Prim. Gerd, I never tried it because it would not like our soil.

Luit,
This species is not difficult when protected from severe frost. It loves a peaty soil, is this a problem in your part of the Netherlands?

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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2008, 08:14:21 PM »
Gerd is nice to find you on the forum which I have just joined. We visited you in 1986 just after Chernobyl on our way to see Dieter Zschummel. You had some really good plants then. Your primula is very interesting.I have looked for it in the Pontus but not been able to find it
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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2008, 08:55:03 PM »
Luit,
This species is not difficult when protected from severe frost. It loves a peaty soil, is this a problem in your part of the Netherlands? Gerd

Gerd,
Our soil is very useful for Hyacinths, and they don't like peat for growing longer than a few months.
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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2008, 09:47:29 AM »
Gerd is nice to find you on the forum which I have just joined. We visited you in 1986 just after Chernobyl on our way to see Dieter Zschummel. You had some really good plants then. Your primula is very interesting.I have looked for it in the Pontus but not been able to find it

Tony,
Nice to meet you here.
Yes, I remember now. Sometimes the world is very small. I am a little bit surprised because of your special liking for crocus - so I wasn't sure about your identity.
I did not find  Primula megaseifolia in the Pontus range too. Unfortunately my plant is
thrum.....? (missed the word), which means stamens shorter than style and so there is no seedset until I have the pin....? form.

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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2008, 09:53:40 AM »
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thrum.....? (missed the word),
No, Gerd, you have missed no word   8)... it is correct to say  "thrum" and "pin"... sometimes it is written for pin .. "pin-eyed" for  thrum .. "thrum-eyed" but this is not neccessary.
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Re: Primula- January 2008
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2008, 01:20:39 PM »
Sorry, I must ask this, only for my learning:
until now I knew conversely: thrum-flowered means stamens longer than style, and pin-flowered means stamens shorter then style. Which is the truth, please? ::) ???
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