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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Herman Mylemans on April 02, 2023, 04:45:51 PM
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This year was very bad for Trillium nivale, a lot of rain, hail and cold. It's been a long time since I've had so few flowers
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Trillium ovatum has also started and cares less about the weather
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Quite extensive your stand of T,rivale. Did you ever experience that plants did not turn up for a year after planting?
I had this with T. grandiflorum, but never had T.rivale before.
My Trillium pusillium var. alambamicum are also only three, but two of them with bud. I have been told that they hate being frozen in winter.
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Quite extensive your stand of T,rivale. Did you ever experience that plants did not turn up for a year after planting?
I had this with T. grandiflorum, but never had T.rivale before.
My Trillium pusillium var. alambamicum are also only three, but two of them with bud. I have been told that they hate being frozen in winter.
Axel, it is Trillium nivale!
Trillium rivale, or better Pseudotrillium rivale, is also flowering now.
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Did you ever experience that plants did not turn up for a year after planting?
I had this with T. grandiflorum, but never had T.rivale before.
My Trillium pusillium var. alambamicum are also only three, but two of them with bud. I have been told that they hate being frozen in winter.
Axel, Trillium's normally appear again next year after transplanting, but they don't like to be moving around. So it is possible that there is a delay.
I don't have Trillium pusillium var. alabamicum but Trillium pusillium var. pusillum is going to flower next week.
Trillium kurabayashii (yellow form) is flowering now.
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This year was very bad for Trillium nivale, a lot of rain, hail and cold. It's been a long time since I've had so few flowers
Is it a bit earlier for Trilliums this spring Herman? I know nivale is a very early species, but I see ovatum also flowering.
In any case, the more spring flowers, the better!
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Sorry Hermann
I had my glasses not on and little to no experience with these tiny beauties. T.nivale is what I heard even more difficult to cultivate. Nice to see big stands of these beauties in your garden.
Thank you for showing.
Your Trillium rivale look gorgeous. You have different ones, so seeds might be expected.
From Trillium nivale I read, it takes about 10 years until they flower from seed. Are rivale faster in your experience?
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Is it a bit earlier for Trilliums this spring Herman? I know nivale is a very early species, but I see ovatum also flowering.
In any case, the more spring flowers, the better!
Gabriela, this year Trillium nivale is later (two weeks) because of the bad weather. That Trillium ovatum is an early clone, I have another clone that still needs to start (see picture).
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Sorry Hermann
I had my glasses not on and little to no experience with these tiny beauties. T.nivale is what I heard even more difficult to cultivate. Nice to see big stands of these beauties in your garden.
Thank you for showing.
Your Trillium rivale look gorgeous. You have different ones, so seeds might be expected.
From Trillium nivale I read, it takes about 10 years until they flower from seed. Are rivale faster in your experience?
Axel, Trillium rivale is seeding around in the garden, the flowers appear rather quick, maybe 4 years. From Trillium nivale I never had seedlings.
Today I took a picture of Trillium pusillum var. pusillum.
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What a clump of such precious plants!!
Do you have several clones of nivale? If you have several clones, do they set seed and just do not germinate in garden situations?
My T.grandiflorum always set seed, when I help with a small paint brush. Without only ever other year.
But I do not have clumps. I had too often move the garden. With my Hydroponics this problem is manageable without losses.
Congratulation to your collection of these beauties. :D :D
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What a clump of such precious plants!!
Do you have several clones of nivale? If you have several clones, do they set seed and just do not germinate in garden situations?
My T.grandiflorum always set seed, when I help with a small paint brush. Without only ever other year.
But I do not have clumps. I had too often move the garden. With my Hydroponics this problem is manageable without losses.
Congratulation to your collection of these beauties. :D :D
Axel, Trillium nivale is from one clone. Other Trilliums mostly set seeds.
Yes Axel, my collection is already about 40 species. But they don't all do it equally well. Some don't grow either. Now I always try to plant them in groups, since the plants are quite expensive I try to sow as much as possible, but that's not the fastest way.
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Gabriela, this year Trillium nivale is later (two weeks) because of the bad weather. That Trillium ovatum is an early clone, I have another clone that still needs to start (see picture).
From my point of view it was early :) We only have few of the regular spring flowers now, and it seems that some Corydalis will try to flower soon.
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From Trillium nivale I read, it takes about 10 years until they flower from seed.
I got T.nivale and seeds in 2016 from a kind forumist, and I love it. Those seeds germinated in 2017 and flowered for the first time 2020, so it was fastest of any of my other Trillium seedlings. :)
The mother plant is also doing well, but hasn't increased much. It was already coming up two weeks ago, but is now again under snow.
Here are seedlings which I sowed from my own seeds in July 2021. Half germinated in 2022 and now there are more germinating. :)
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That`s a relief. I feared a situation with a good growing clone in horticulture and no one has seed grown ones. Fritillaria camtschatica is such a plant. For at least the black form grows everywhere but only the same clone.
Trillium nivale seems to be be quite rare, and growers like you and Herman are very important.
You have quite a lot of rare and difficult plants in your garden Leena. Maybe Herman would swap another clone of T.nivale?
Then we have more seedlings. ;)
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Maybe Herman would swap another clone of T.nivale?
Then we have more seedlings. ;)
Good idea. :)
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Leena, your Trillium nivale seem to set very vital seeds. Here never.
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I know nivale is a very early species
T.nivale was coming up two weeks ago before the new snow came. Yesterday I noticed it coming through snow. :)
-5C still last night.
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Leena, I am looking forward to see the flower! :)
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Snow is melting now fast, so I hope T.nivale will flower open it's flower in a week or so. :)
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Trillium nivale, indeed! :) A great success to grow them in such numbers in the future, Leena!
@ partisangardener: my trilliums occasionally don´t come up for one year or more, most likely due to slug damage. An older gardening friend told me that she planted a lot of bought trilliums, but hardly saw any of them the next years. After she started to control slugs she had better success with her trilliums.
@ Herman, You really do grow an impressive collection and big clumps of trilliums! Did You notice any differences regarding slug damage among the species?
Most of my trilliums are grown from seed, like this Tr. kurabayashii.
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The red colouring of the flowers varies slightly.
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Trillium nivale, indeed! :) A great success to grow them in such numbers in the future, Leena!
@ partisangardener: my trilliums occasionally don´t come up for one year or more, most likely due to slug damage. An older gardening friend told me that she planted a lot of bought trilliums, but hardly saw any of them the next years. After she started to control slugs she had better success with her trilliums.
@ Herman, You really do grow an impressive collection and big clumps of trilliums! Did You notice any differences regarding slug damage among the species?
Most of my trilliums are grown from seed, like this Tr. kurabayashii.
Mariette, I sprinkle granules against the snails early in the spring. Prevention is better than cure. This year there was more damage at the leaves due to large temperature fluctuations, a lot of rain and hail in March.
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Thank You, Herman! Gardening surrounded by paddocks and wasteland, slugs tend to creep in my garden all the time they are active. Therefore, I gave up bothering with them. Despite the often very wet condtitions due to our heavy clay, a good deal of trilliums survive, the sessile ones doing better than the petiolated.
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Trillium pusillum var. pusillum
Trillium sessile (true)
Trillium ludovicianum
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Herman, excellent plants, thank you for showing.
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Thank You, Herman! Gardening surrounded by paddocks and wasteland, slugs tend to creep in my garden all the time they are active. Therefore, I gave up bothering with them. Despite the often very wet condtitions due to our heavy clay, a good deal of trilliums survive, the sessile ones doing better than the petiolated.
Mariette,
To protect special plants from slugs in a limited area, buy a roll of copper flashing from a building supply store. Form it into a shallow trough surrounding the plants, you want to protect and join the ends with caulking. Fill it with beer and cover it with aluminum foil held off the ground with spacers of any convenient waterial at random intervals. use rocks to keep the foil from blowing away. Every four or five weeks bail out the old beer and refill it.
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Thank You, MarcR! Many years ago, when the slug population was far bigger, I practised this in my vegetable plot. Meanwhile, due to the long periods of drought during recent years, there are fewer slugs around. Also, the number of predators appears to be increased in my garden, which means that I often notice less damage than friends using slug pellets. Right now, I feel I can get along with the little damage slugs still do. :)
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I am very much impressed with your big healthy clumps.
Trillium pusillum var. alabamicum I have only three plants. Flower is open and I have already pollinated one flower while the pistil is open.
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I am also very impressed with your achievements; they are such beautiful plants!
Herman, I would love to see these Trilliums face to face and visit your garden to see what conditions they live in. ::)
Here I am not yet very good at growing them, but I am working on it. My Trillium luteum has not yet reappeared, but it is later, it seems, so I still have some hope that it will come back a bit more.
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Our weather has been sunny one day, hail storms the next. Trilliums are later than normal and some are still not in bloom.
Trillium ovatum ssp. maculosum
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Trillium ovatum seeds around in pretty harsh, dry conditions, surprising me how it can spread. It's just starting to come up.
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A few more trilliums.
Trillium chloropetalum
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A clump of Trillium chloropetalum, demonstrating the variability of flower color and leave markings
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Another clump of Trillium chloropetalum, these from seeds kindly shared by Dave Toole
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Trillium kurabayashii seeds all over the garden. It is the most aggressive seeder other than Pseudotrillium rivale.
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Trillium pusillum, on the other hand, is very shy and only a few seedlings come up in the garden. This form has very dark maroon stems.
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Trillium cuneatum. The clumps have been split several times.
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Pseudotrillium rivale is very variable. It is very late this year.
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Pseudotrillium rivale is very variable. It is very late this year.
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Claire,
Late is a relative thing! All my Trilliums are just starting to show foliage. So to me yours are early.
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Trillium kurabayashii seeds all over the garden. It is the most aggressive seeder other than Pseudotrillium rivale.
Trillium pusillum, on the other hand, is very shy and only a few seedlings come up in the garden. This form has very dark maroon stems.
Trillium cuneatum. The clumps have been split several times.
Claire, lovely Trilliums. Thanks for showing. Big clumps are always beautiful!
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Claire, You grow a wonderful collection of trillium! Obviously they feel at home, to my disappointment I never noticed any self-sown seedlings. Probably, my densly planted small garden doesn´t provide enough bare soil?
Especially I do admire Your yellow Trillium chloropetalum, grown from Dave Toole´s seed. This is the best I´ve achieved till now.
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Fortunately, 40 °C in the shade last summer didn´t affect the trilliums, though this one is grown in a rather sunny position.
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Seeds from the yellow T. chloropetalum produce very variable plants, as my photo shows. The best yellow I've seen from Dave Toole's seeds -- ironically -- was a plant that I gave to Kelly Dodson at Far Reaches Farm! My advice is to keep sowing!
...Claire
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Thank You for Your advice, Claire - Your pics make it definitely worthwhile !
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Yummy Trilliums all ...
Hello Claire , it's lovely to see the variation from seed that I sent you and others many years ago. They will most likely be a mixture of seed sourced from the NZ Trillium Group seedex ,Val Mulvihill's garden or my own property where I cultivate a number of different species in close proximity.
I think you may have sent me forms of T.rivale ? .... which do very well in our conditions .
Kind regards Dave.
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Hello, Dave,
Yes, I sent Trillium (now Pseudotrillium) rivale seeds to you in 2013 -- 10 years ago! I'm glad they've done well for you.
...Claire
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Trillium albidum
Trillium grandiflorum f. roseum
Trillium cuneatum
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Trillium freemanii
Trillium sp. nov. Georgia is very compact.
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Trillium nivale April 18th. :)
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Trillium freemanii
Trillium sp. nov. Georgia is very compact.
Herman,
Which Georgia? The one in SE USA or the one South of Russia?
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Herman,
Which Georgia? The one in SE USA or the one South of Russia?
Marc, I have it from seeds from USA.
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A lost-label-seedling, Pseudotrillium nivale?
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Some trilliums clump quickly, others not at all. The white one to the left is a seedling from 2004, the Trillium cuneatum to the right was bought several years earlier.
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A lost-label-seedling, Pseudotrillium nivale?
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Mariette, have you a picture from inside the flower, to see the stigma?
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Trillium grandiflorum ‘Kath’s Dwarf’ and Erythronium citrinum
Trillium tennessense
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Mariette, have you a picture from inside the flower, to see the stigma?
I´m very sorry, Herman, but we left for a holiday a few days after the pic was taken, the flower wasn´t fully expanded then. As far as I could see, filaments and ovary are white; the total plant is 7 cm high. I´m afraid we´ll have to wait till the next season - thank You for Your interest!
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I´m very sorry, Herman, but we left for a holiday a few days after the pic was taken, the flower wasn´t fully expanded then. As far as I could see, filaments and ovary are white; the total plant is 7 cm high. I´m afraid we´ll have to wait till the next season - thank You for Your interest!
Mariëtte, Pseudotrillium rivale: the leaves have a long petiole. Yours don’t have that.
Maybe it is a dwarf form of grandiflorum.
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Any tips to germinate Trillium spp.? I've even tried from fruit I've just picked, and still, after 2 years, nothing. Am I missing some 'secret ingredient'? Sowed in the garden, in pots, in sand... nothing.
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........ Now I always try to plant them in groups, since the plants are quite expensive I try to sow as much as possible, but that's not the fastest way.
Herman,
I can buy generous packets of seed of most species for $4 [3.3 Euros] or less.
By giving them alternating cycles of 20C and 4c using room temperature and the refrigerator, I can have seedlings in 1 year and flowers in 3-4 years. Getting 20- 50 plants for 3.3 euros instead of buying expensive nursery stock is, in my opinion, worth the wait; and they don't always take that long. Some give flowers in 2-3 years.
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Trillium sessile
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Trillium erectum, just starting to flower
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Trillum grandiflorum, double form -- a good multiplier, living under Rhododendron wardii
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Trillium grandiflorum 'Gothenburg Pink Strain', grown from seed sown in 2017. It needs to be planted out.
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This trillium was grown from wild-collected seed from Northern California. It is supposed to be Trillium chloropetalum, but doesn't look like the rest of what I grow.
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A lost-label-seedling, Pseudotrillium nivale?
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In addition to the distinct petioles that nivale has, the leaf tips are rounded, and the leaf look is very different. These pics are in the wild in Minnesota, USA. Notice also the blunt ends of the sepals.
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Thank You, Herman and Rick, for Your comments!
Trillium grandiflorum is a species I haven´t sown - if it´s that, it must have been delivered by mistake. The only other white-flowered species I sowed recently is Trillium ovatum - both species might be expected to be taller when flowering.
Another species I sowed is Pseudotrillium / Trillium rivale, one that should have petiolated leaves as well, as far as I know. Only one of the seedlings shows these. I wonder if not many of the seeds distributed are hybrids? Perhaps next season will bring some enlightment.
Marc, it´s great that You can buy large badges of trillium-seed in USA for little money, alas, this would prove difficult in Europe, I think. Also, many trilliums are offered under a wrong name over here, for instance, usually one gets Trillium chloropetalum instead of true kurabayashii.
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Herman,
I will buy 2 or 3 packets each of the 5 most sought after species and donate them to the seed exchange. Please give some feedback on what would be most helpful.
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Herman,
I can buy generous packets of seed of most species for $4 [3.3 Euros] or less.
By giving them alternating cycles of 20C and 4c using room temperature and the refrigerator, I can have seedlings in 1 year and flowers in 3-4 years. Getting 20- 50 plants for 3.3 euros instead of buying expensive nursery stock is, in my opinion, worth the wait; and they don't always take that long. Some give flowers in 2-3 years.
Marc, I have been on Holiday in Italy, so I have been less on the forum. You have an interesting method. How long are your cycles?
I usually sow fresh seeds (3 cm deep) in big pots filled with a mixture of leaf compost, perliet and vermiculite, for the lime loving I add tufa. Old seeds I soak in water for 24 hours. Then I put the pot in a shady position and the leaves appear after second winter. The seedlings remain in the same pot until flowering time.
In the past my seed source was Trillium-L (of which I have seeds from you), but it is difficult to find other species, than I already have. I am still looking after following seeds: Trillium hagae, Trillium hibbersonii, Trillium maculatum f. simulans, Trillium ovatum var. maculosum, Trillium persistens, Trillium pusillum var alabamicum, Trillium pusillum var monticola, Trillium pusillum var ozarkanum, Trillium pusillum var texanum, Trillium pusillum var virginianum, Trillium recurvatum f. shayi, Trillium viride (not virdescens), Trillium sulcatum forma albolutescens, Trillium undulatum forma enotatum.
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I usually sow fresh seeds (3 cm deep) in big pots filled with a mixture of leaf compost, perliet and vermiculite, for the lime loving I add tufa. Old seeds I soak in water for 24 hours. Then I put the pot in a shady position and the leaves appear after second winter. The seedlings remain in the same pot until flowering time.
This is exactly how I do, too (except I haven't done anything special for lime loving species, but will in the future), and most germinate fine in the second spring.
Claire, your Trilliums are so good. Thank you for showing them. :)
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Marc, I have been on Holiday in Italy, so I have been less on the forum. You have an interesting method. How long are your cycles?....quote]
Herman,
I use 12 week cycles. I place 4 or 5 tbsp of seed starter in a ziplock bag, add the seeds shake,
add water to dampen [not wet] the soil. First I hang the bag on a grow light with a clothespin, then I refrigerate it. Germination usually occurs on the second light cycle; but, sometimes on the second cold cycle. Starting in the second light cycle, I check twice a week for sprouts.
I drill holes in a dishpan for drainage and fill it with equal parts of sand, gravel, leafmold, and potting soil; and place 2 pans under a grow-light. Under the pans are planter boxes with gravel. I sprouts into the dishpans as soon as they are detected. I use the same method .The water evaporation from the planter boxes under the pans protects the seedlings from the dry air indoors.
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Marc, I have been on Holiday in Italy, so I have been less on the forum. You have an interesting method. How long are your cycles?
Herman,
I use 12 week cycles. I place 4 or 5 tbsp of seed starter in a ziplock bag, add the seeds shake,
add water to dampen [not wet] the soil. First I hang the bag on a grow light with a clothespin, then I refrigerate it. Germination usually occurs on the second light cycle; but, sometimes on the second cold cycle. Starting in the second light cycle, I check twice a week for sprouts.
I drill holes in a dishpan for drainage and fill it with equal parts of sand, gravel and potting soil; and place 2 pans under a grow-light. Under the pans are planter boxes with gravel. I transplant sprouts into the dishpans as soon as they are detected. I use the same method with Hepaticas.
The water evaporation from the planter boxes under the pans protects the seedlings from the dry air indoors.
Please excuse the duplicate post. I don't know how it happened!
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Marc, I have been on Holiday in Italy, so I have been less on the forum. You have an interesting method. How long are your cycles?....quote]
Herman,
I use 12 week cycles. I place 4 or 5 tbsp of seed starter in a ziplock bag, add the seeds shake,
add water to dampen [not wet] the soil. First I hang the bag on a grow light with a clothespin, then I refrigerate it. Germination usually occurs on the second light cycle; but, sometimes on the second cold cycle. Starting in the second light cycle, I check twice a week for sprouts.
I drill holes in a dishpan for drainage and fill it with equal parts of sand, gravel, leafmold, and potting soil; and place 2 pans under a grow-light. Under the pans are planter boxes with gravel. I sprouts into the dishpans as soon as they are detected. I use the same method .The water evaporation from the planter boxes under the pans protects the seedlings from the dry air indoors.
Wow Marc, your method is impressive. It is intensive work, but with perhaps a better germination result. For me, the germination is irregular, but in the end, depending on the amount of seed in the pot, there are usually enough plants left for the garden. Germination is easiest when the seed is very fresh.
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Herman,
By holding the seedlings indoors until they gain some growth, I protect young seedlings from: turkeys, moles,voles, gophers, slugs, and insects. Protected from predation they get a good headstart before they have to face the real world.
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Some more Trilliums:
Trillium luteum
Trillium oostingii
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Trillium sulcatum
Trillium grandiflorum
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Very impressing, how do you prevent hybrids? Do you?
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Very impressing, how do you prevent hybrids? Do you?
Axel, planting in groups, some distance between the groups (shrubs and other plants between them), I alternate between pedicellate trilliums and sessile trilliums. Keep in mind the flowering period, there can be a month difference. If a hybrid appears in the same place, I will transplant it, if it's a nice one.
If you want to be very sure it is hand pollination. If I don't need the seeds I remove the berries. When the group is large enough, I remove any emerging seedlings.
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Herman, You´re lucky to own a garden large enough to grow such an impressive collection and manage it in such a deliberate way! Also, obviously all species do well in Your garden. On my heavy clay, I have far more success with the sessile ones than the pedicelate species.
The variations in Trillium luteum You show is fascinating! Owing only a smaller garden, I prefer the more showy ones, as the deeper yellow one of Your last picture.
Though I grow trilliums since about 25 years, I never noticed any self-sown seedlings. I think there are some hybrids among the plants I grew from seed, but as long as they are nice I´m quite happy to keep them.
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Trillium sulcatum
Trillium erectum
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Trillium mixed seedlings from a kind forumist in NZ. Unflowered to date so identification is beyond me. Anyone have a guess which species they might be or are they indeed a mix? The second shot shows a strongly marked one.
Can't get larger pix to upload though some folks can have them enlarge in a different window but I've never been able to.
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Axel, planting in groups, some distance between the groups (shrubs and other plants between them), I alternate between pedicellate trilliums and sessile trilliums. Keep in mind the flowering period, there can be a month difference. If a hybrid appears in the same place, I will transplant it, if it's a nice one.
Herman, your Trilliums are growing so well!
Thanks for giving the idea how to keep species separate, though I don't have that problem (yet at least), but it would be nice to have as good groups as you have.
Mine are mostly T.chloropetalum or its hybrids, but as long as they are growing well I love them and they are showier than T.erectum which also grows well here. Still, all plants are nice. :)
Trillium luteum is also very nice, and I like how it flowers later than others. It's yellow is so lovely. I have couple of seedlings from your seeds, Herman. :)
John, really nice foliage. I have also some plants from Dave's seeds, and they have nice foliage indeed, and pretty flowers as well (the ones which have flowered so far).
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Trillium rugellii
Trillium grandiflorum ‘Flore-Pleno’
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Herman - your Trillium clumps are fantastic!
I sowed the seeds of T. sessile I got from you directly in the ground and they all germinated. I intend to leave them like that, maybe one day they transform in a large clump :)
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Herman - your Trillium clumps are fantastic!
I sowed the seeds of T. sessile I got from you directly in the ground and they all germinated. I intend to leave them like that, maybe one day they transform in a large clump :)
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Gabriela, in a few years they will be beautiful!
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Herman nice large clumps. I love it. I can only grow with one or two shoots maximum.
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This is my biggest T.chloropetalum. I bought it from Dryad maybe 8 years ago, and it has formed a really tight clump.
The second is T.chloropetalum grown from seeds from Dave and I like this a lot.
T.luteum yesterday is still in bud, though it grows close to the yellow chloropetalum. What I'm asking can T.chloropetalum come in yellow?
All it's siblings are red.
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What I'm asking can T.chloropetalum come in yellow?
Yes, I think they can! Ian Y. writes in tomorrow's Bulb Log about how many hybrids arise iin our garden.
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Yes, I think they can! Ian Y. writes in tomorrow's Bulb Log about how many hybrids arise iin our garden.
Maggi, thank you! :)
I think this yellow is really nice.
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This is my biggest T.chloropetalum. I bought it from Dryad maybe 8 years ago, and it has formed a really tight clump.
The second is T.chloropetalum grown from seeds from Dave and I like this a lot.
T.luteum yesterday is still in bud, though it grows close to the yellow chloropetalum. What I'm asking can T.chloropetalum come in yellow?
All it's siblings are red.
Leena, to be sure look at the stamens, for chloropetalum they are about 1cm longer than the ovary and with luteum a only few mm longer. The berry is also different, you will see in a few weeks. Luteum has a lemon scent.
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The second is T.chloropetalum grown from seeds from Dave and I like this a lot.
What I'm asking can T.chloropetalum come in yellow?
All it's siblings are red.
Lovely Trilliums all .
Yes there are yellow chloropetalums Leena. On INaturalist there are postings showing the stunning variation of chloropetalum found in the wild including yellows …... Similar to Ian's comments in his latest Bulb Log I no longer try to identify most of the Trilliums in our garden because being grown in close proximity hybrids appear reqularly from seed and I do not hand pollinate. While weeding in the garden recently I saw a number of noses poking through the soil althought it will be a few months until we see colour here in NZ.
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Yes there are yellow chloropetalums Leena. On INaturalist there are postings showing the stunning variation of chloropetalum found in the wild including yellows
Thank you Dave. :) I love these all.
Here are some other Trilliums from your seeds, browinsh red and purplish red. :)
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Leena, to be sure look at the stamens, for chloropetalum they are about 1cm longer than the ovary and with luteum a only few mm longer. The berry is also different, you will see in a few weeks. Luteum has a lemon scent.
Herman, the stamens are clearly longer than the ovary in the yellow as well as red ones. T. luteum hasn't opened yet.
I don't mind if they are hybrids, they are such lovely woodland plants and they flower quite a long time compared to many other flowers.
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Trillium lancifolium
Trillium discolor
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These pictures are from last May.
I have sown these plants from seed ex in 2015 and I don't know anymore what they are. They are either T.rugelii or Trillium vaseyi album x sulcatum. The other one has died before flowering and I don't know which one is left. What do you think which one they are? They are late flowering, almost latest one I have at the end of May. Only T.luteum is later.
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The flower in the bottom of the second picture is from a different plant, it is T.erectum (hybrid), but the two nodding flowers belong to this unnamed plant.
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These pictures are from last May.
I have sown these plants from seed ex in 2015 and I don't know anymore what they are. They are either T.rugelii or Trillium vaseyi album x sulcatum. The other one has died before flowering and I don't know which one is left. What do you think which one they are? They are late flowering, almost latest one I have at the end of May. Only T.luteum is later.
The flower in the bottom of the second picture is from a different plant, it is T.erectum (hybrid), but the two nodding flowers belong to this unnamed plant.
Leena, I do't believe it is rugelii, so Trillium vaseyi album x sulcatum is possible.
I have added Trillium rugelii.
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Herman, thank you! :) You are right, mine doesn't look like your T.rugelii, so it is that hybrid (or sown as such). I had planted the seedlings close to each other when they were small, and now both labels were left but only one plant. Anyway it is nice different Trillium.