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SRGC Shows and Events => Events => Topic started by: Lesley Cox on August 14, 2011, 01:33:11 AM
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On October 8th and 9th, NZ Trillium Group will celebrate its 10th Anniversay in Timaru with another of the annual weekend events that have been so popular and enjoyable in the past. No doubt a few Forumists will post pictures after the event.
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Good to see you again Lesley.
Had a great weekend, beautiful plants and gardens.
Dave, Val and her stunning, mouth watering garden.
A few of her Trillium's.
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Some more of Val's beauties....
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Some more nice plants, and sad to see the Irish boys out of the World cup.
Wales have an awesome team and are looking so good, I think they will give the All Blacks a run for their money in the final.............
Fingers crossed.
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....more plants........
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Oh, my word... what plants! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Magnificent examples Doug ... and the plants aren't bad as well!!!
Many thanks for posting.
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What a beautiful garden, with some super plants, I love that DSC_0667.JPG. Thanks for showing us Doug.
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Good to meet you again too Doug. I thought your transition from Trillium to rugby wasn't even subtle there, until I saw the little guys in green jersies. ;D
Nice pics of him with the knobbly knees. :D
Got a bit of watering to do then I'll be back to here and pic processing. On the first day I took one shot then had a "batteries need replacing" message on the screen. Of course the spares were locked up in my camera case in Tim's car but for the rest of the day I had an official photographer and those will arrive in due course, on a disc from Oz. I have the second day's pics though. ::)
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Wow, wonderful plants, Doug. I hope to see more pictures from the Trillium-weekend.
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Erythronium hybrids
Kaka beak - Clianthus puniceus.
Lysichiton americanus - I was drooling!
A nice sunset down the back of the garden this evening.
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Some last shots of Trilliums, Fritillaria and gardens.
Finishing up with a two more NZ natives, Celmisia hookeri and Clematis cunninghamii.(Can someone please confirm the Clematis id)
Look forward to some more shots from the weekend.
Cheers,
Doug.
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On the first day I took one shot then had a "batteries need replacing" message on the screen. Of course the spares were locked up in my camera case in Tim's car )
Guess that's what happens when one pays far too much attention to a set of knobbly knees Lesley. ::) ;D ;D
Nice pics Doug --well captured.
Yes a great weekend, well organized and we saw some super plants not all Trilliums.
Here are a few 'others' taken during the weekend and in a couple of gardens i visited on the way home.
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Last few.
Cheers Dave.
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Rightio then....
A few yummy yellows and other colours that took my fancy during the stops on the way home.
Cheers Dave.
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The end.
Apologies for the Trillium overload...... :o :o :o
Cheers Dave.
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Never enough ;D Thanks for all these pics !
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just stunning photos and plants, especially those yellow trilliums.
Many thanks.
Can anyone tell us more about the development of these cultivars?
Regards,
David
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On the first day I took one shot then had a "batteries need replacing" message on the screen. Of course the spares were locked up in my camera case in Tim's car )
Guess that's what happens when one pays far too much attention to a set of knobbly knees Lesley. ::) ;D ;D
I assure you Dave, Tim's knees are perfect! ;D
Working from the other end of the weekend, we visited several quite small (or tiny) gardens in the Timaru area and always saw lovely things. Here are some of them
The NZ kowhai tree, Sophora tetraptera
One of many Heuchera varieties. I thought how easy it would be to do a photo essay is outstanding foliage forms.
Acacia pravissima
Acacia longifolia?
A very fine red Trillium chloropetalum.
Flowering cherry against a spring sky.
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Magnolia stellata
One of hundreds of white Tr. chloropetalum
Clematis (probably) 'Sweet Hart' a local hybrid or selection
and in close-up. Not mis-spelt. I believe this form is named for South Canterbury gardener Jenny Hart.
Geranium, a hybrid with G, sessiliflorum in its brown form and probably involving G. traversii as well. It has good pink flowers.
Superb foliage on a tree paeony.
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Hello Dave, please could you provide more information about those stunning yellow Trillium, thank you.
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Gwen Stewart had a small town garden yet was perhaps the most interesting of all, for me. It was well designed and planted to the hilt yet not over crowded and Gwen had made wonderful use of tiny spaces. Every tree trunk had a climbing rose up it and every climbing rose had a clematis reaching up, 3 for the space of 1. The wonderful Lysochiton americanum Doug showed on the last page was in Gwen's garden, a low growing plant by a tiny pool, well in proportion. The Japanese species was there too, smaller and with fewer flowers but beautifully healthy. I liked many of Gwen's colour combos which made the small area seem larger. Several different yellows in a group or whites and silver foliage, reds and browns together and so on. Here are a few such combos.
Different yellows and oranges
A fluffy white tulip was grouped with lamb's ear and white Narcissus
And an Epimedium near the little pool
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Certainly Dave and others can tell you more than I can Rob but Val Mulvihill who still does them best, has had only limited success with their breeding. I don't know where the original came from (T. chloropetalum 'Val Mulvihill') unless as a mutation from her own seedlings but she said at the weekend that all the seedlings are coming in creams rather than yellows and she is now going for back crossing of those with the yellows. It's early days with that apparently. When we all saw the original plant 10 years ago at the first Trillium Weekend, there were just about bodies lying about the garden, stunned and in amazement at the rich colouring of it. Judging from Dave's "gardens on the way home" I think Maggi's friend of the possum sox has them done to a turn too.
Trying to find my picture of the original named plant but it seems to have vanished off my radar.
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Thanks for the pictures, Dave and Lesley.
Love the plants, but especially the yellow and red/yellow flowering Trilliums (I don't seem to be the only one, either ;))
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Hello Dave, please could you provide more information about those stunning yellow Trillium, thank you.
just stunning photos and plants, especially those yellow trilliums.
Many thanks.
Can anyone tell us more about the development of these cultivars?
Hello Rob and David
Sorry I can't add much more to what Lesley has mentioned other than that they are not common here.
My two attempts at growing on gifted yellow divisions a few years back ended in failure with the rhizomes rotting so I'm happy to 'luck it' as i have a good number of strong 3 year seedlings coming along so it will be interesting to see what eventuates.
In the meantime i sow as much mixed NZ T. chloro seed as i can lay my hands on, in the hope........
The NZ Trillium Group has a yearly seed list --Contact details for membership pejoleonard@hotmail.com .Seed of T.chloro yellows have been listed at times.
Cheers Dave.
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And an Epimedium near the little pool
Nice Epimedium, Lesley.
It's E. perralderianum or E. pinnatum (subsp. pinnatum or subsp. colchicum), I always get confused between those two (three).
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The yellow chloropetalums do not seem to be stable. Val's next generation did not have that lovely yellow. When she has divided the original, the parent plant has struggled and sometimes died.I believe they are more susceptible to infection. Someone may know more about it, but I think yellow is a recessive gene in trilliums. I have had plants that came up a really nice lemon but gradually have reverted to a creamy white, and like Dave, have sown lots of T chloropetalum in the hope.......
Susan
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Certainly Dave and others can tell you more than I can Rob but Val Mulvihill who still does them best, has had only limited success with their breeding. I don't know where the original came from (T. chloropetalum 'Val Mulvihill') unless as a mutation from her own seedlings but she said at the weekend that all the seedlings are coming in creams rather than yellows and she is now going for back crossing of those with the yellows. It's early days with that apparently. When we all saw the original plant 10 years ago at the first Trillium Weekend, there were just about bodies lying about the garden, stunned and in amazement at the rich colouring of it. Judging from Dave's "gardens on the way home" I think Maggi's friend of the possum sox has them done to a turn too.
Trying to find my picture of the original named plant but it seems to have vanished off my radar.
Thank you Lesley, Susan and Dave for all informations. It certainly would be very interesting to see the original T. chloropetalum 'Val Mulvihill' if that was the first yellow seedling and like Wim i think the yellow with red base is utterly stunning. Pity if this mutation/form has so far proved unstable. It would though be interesting to potentially get some seed raised yellow forms into northern hemisphere cultivation. Will persue this further.
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On the subject of Val M's lovely trillium..... here are two links in the forum for you to have a look at:
For a glimpse of the plant itself....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=886.msg20693#msg20693
for T00lie's pic of the real VM ( behind the angustipetalum) middle photo of the post
and here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4092.msg110776;topicseen#msg110776
for Bill Dijk's good yellow with a red base .
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OM. wow.
Can someone add names to all the Trilliums? I want to tell Bob Gordon, no computer, about the Trilliums but I only know grandiflorum and rivale
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Mark, can you not take Bob to a local Library, log in and show him the photos?
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Probably the majority are T. chloropetalum Mark. It varies between deep red almost black, lighter reds, pinkish, white and the stunning yellows. We also saw a few amazingly psychadelic green forms. The leaves can be plainish green or superbly marked and splashed darker. Usually the petals are wide, but this varies too. Some of the smaller sessile species may be maculatum or cunetaum while the pedicillates could be any of the rectum/felxipes complex or ovatum, grandiflorum etc. You know rivale well and pusillum. If you want to know any specific pics, just ask, someone will know.
I couldn't find my pic of T. 'Val Mulvihill,' the original ,because I remembered I didn't have a digital camera when we first saw 10 years ago. The one I have somewhere (but where?) was sent to me by Bill Dijk and maybe he could post it here as it was undoubtedly a superb plant. Val herself was perhaps overly generous with it in the very early days and has found it slow to recover to its former glory. Certainly at least one plant went to the UK, to Carl Denton and I think some went to the States as well as to a few lucky local gardeners.
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There must be some somewhere, because the image has been etched on my memory, and it was not those above? Perhaps the old forum?
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I can't find any reference to the old forum Anthony.... and even if it were there , we have sadly lost that facility, as a result of haccking attacks recently. :'( :'( :'(
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Some other Trillium 'Val Mulvihill' references :
Perhaps from Trillium=l??
http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/index.php?gal=woodland&genus=Trillium&id=1969
http://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/Growing-Heritage/pdf/ActionPlanFinal photo from Carl Denton here
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/img_anno_query?kwid=0000+0000+0207+0311
Mike Ireland... of a show plant at Harrogate
http://131.211.5.130/temperate/show.php?img=T./T._chloropetalum_Val_Mulvihill_1969.jpg&caption=Trillium%20chloropetalum%20%5CVal%20Mulvihill%5C close up of Mike's photo, I think.
http://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/trillium-l/2005-December/013521.html
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I think the Carl Denton photo looks familiar? What a shame about the old Forum. :( Not the sort of thing anyone would have saved to disc anywhere?
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What a shame about the old Forum. :( Not the sort of thing anyone would have saved to disc anywhere?
It was HUGE, and we haven't the resources for that. :'( :'( :'(
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Just shows you how the contributions of all the contributors have added up over the years. I am in awe of the people who manage it and keep it running so smoothly!
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I have been slow to post to this thread because the weather has been so good and as I'm on holiday from my job at present, it's been a great opportunity to get quite a lot done outside. Never mind the housework. That can wait.
In the meantime though, yesterday we had a gathering of the local Fritillaria Group members here in Dunedin and explored the Botanic Gardens, the rock garden, the new Mediterranean garden and then the propagating areas. Then we went to two gardens at Mosgiel, the fantastic garden of Stewart Preston and the smaller but excellent garden of Dick King, aged well into his 80s and starting fresh in a retirement village, a beautiful home and the largest garden I've ever seen in such a place. If we saw wonderful trilliums at Val Mulvihill's Stewarts were even in many cases, more impressive. Photos to follow. His being a week later, included many pedicillate species and hybrids which weren't out in Val's garden under the snow covered mountains. We followed these adventures with a short AGM at Susan and David More's place, a talk from Doreen Mear about a trip to Lake Van in eastern Turkey then a sumptuous meal contributed to, by all present. We missed Wales playing FRance, but we all know how that ended, no-one but the French happy with the result.
Today has been busy too with Rhodo Day at the Bot Gardens and lots of spending on the plant stalls there. I need to get back to work to start earning again!!! But first the semi-final between Australia and NZ in the RWC. Of course we will win it - we assure ourselves, but somewhat uncertainly. :-\
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What a wonderrful weekend you've been enjoying, Lesley... topped off by the All blacks' win!
Happy days!
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ABs win. Never, er, in doubt! 8)
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A wonderful selection of plants in these pages, really enjoyed seeing them and the garden shots, even some of the hairy knees on display.
Many thanks for them all.
And, delighted with the All Blacks win this morning. Good game, watched with breakfast. Tough luck, Ozzies.
Paddy
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I said to Tim when he went home that we would next meet on the rugby field, but I didn't see him there. ;D Yes, we played reasonably well and thank goodness, no further injuries.
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Roger says he has just heard on the news that the Aussies are offering to sell us Quade Cooper - for a dollar! QC is one of their star players but was NZ born and hasn't been permitted to become an Australian citizen because he hasn't formerly applied for residency or something. It did seem near the beginning of the game that he was actually playing for NZ :o with some silly mistakes. The crowd gave him beans. ;D There has been a lot of discussion locally about the fact that Australia didn't want him as a citizen but were prepared to use him for their own benefit in big games.
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Posting about the Trillium weekend seems to have stopped so I'll put up some more pictures, from the gardens which were not so much Trillium gardens but all the same had good plants in them and in every case, it was obvious that the owners had really worked hard to make good venues for their visitors.
This jar was a good size and shape under a large tree, just on its own and making an attractive statement.
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Don't mind please that I repeat Doug's posting of the super Lysichiton americanum. It was shorter than perhaps it usually grows but in keeping with the little pond in a little garden.
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The Japanese species L. camschatsense was a smaller plant but equally lovely.
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Over the weekend and this last one as well, we saw numerous plants of Orobus (is it Lathyrus now?) vernus in different colours. I've never grown them before but will look for them in the next batch of seedlists. This is O. v. albo-roseus I think.
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We saw many Tiarella and Heuchera vars, most of them newish, from America. This Tiarella had pretty foliage as well as flowers.
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As well as the ragged-edged tulip on the previous page, I really liked this lily-flowered white.
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Over the weekend we saw many different Muscari in shades from white to almost black. These two especially appealed to me. I think we have the pale one as 'Iceberg.'
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A pretty "jack-in-the-green" primrose.
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I always seem to go for good foliage and these two little Hostas were fine examples, followed by the gold Tiarella (or relative).
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Forget the bunny and look in amazement at this previously unknown WHITE Frit. imperialis!!!
Well no, actually, quite accidentally, the owner of this tiny garden had planted a white hellebore and the currently non-flowering fritillaria right on top of it. But she had to explain this to many of us who thought we had found the rarest of the rare in this little spot. Once we knew, we had some fun at the expense of late arrivals. ;D
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Among many superb plants here, was the precious Mertensia virginica, in a surprisingly hot and sunny place. I saw several and had to take pictures of them all.
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The double Sanguinaria was flowering in full sun and seemed very happy there.
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A well-flowered mossy saxifrage.
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One of many auriculas we saw over the weekend and I wish I'd taken a picture of the many different colours, both singles and doubles that Hokonui Alpines had on their sales table at yesterday's Rhodo Day sale at the Botanic Gardens, but I didn't have my camera with me. Silly girl!
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A mixed bag of rock garden plants.
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A somewhat arty image of another tulip which I liked. It was basically white but with a slight shading of pink at the edges and suffusing the body of the petals. It looked deep blue inside and wasn't fully open so the picture had to explore the depths. :)
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Five more tonight then I'm off to bed.
Rhododendrons of all shapes and sizes are in flower at present. This was a particularly nice one, but what?
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Another pretty Heuchera var.
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The spectacular Tropaeolum tricolor which we saw in several gardens, this one in full sun.
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Two more clumps of fine foliage, well before flowering time. Geranium, which I think is the cultivar 'Midnight Reiter' and a Lobelia which will have scarlet flowers.
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Maybe some more tomorrow.