Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: gmoen on June 01, 2007, 03:16:24 PM
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Hi again folks
Here is a picture of Lilium souliei in my garden. A nice little species from Yunnan - China
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The Edelweis is in this trough happy. I started with one plant four year ago.
Leondopotium nivale
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......and for the non purist.
Campanula "Elizabeth" which is becoming a rather delightful weed here.
Sprekelia formosissima purchased half price from Wilko's !
Un named Pelargonium.
Martin.
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This peony was grown from seed. I think it may be a cross between a Tree peony and a peony, if thats possible. The seed was collected from a Tree peony, but the leaves look like a peony. No ants, were on the flower bud, like the normal peony usually have.
She's a beauty.
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A couple of questions. Do you have more than a single bulb of that delightful lily Geir? A few people seem to have it now, which is great but I guess we'd all like to hope it will reach the seedlists soon, in which case cross-pollination would help.
And Franz, someone was wondering whether Leontopodium nivale was a synonym for L. alpinum v. crassense, which was grown (and considered choice) many ago but I've not seen mentioned recently. Do you have any thoughts about that? I have just one small plants of L. nivale but though very short and neat, it seems to me to have a taller stem (about 5cms) that I would have expected from the other. What do you think?
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Well, I used to have three bulbs of this lily. First winter one died, second year one was gone after the bus with visitors from a garden society left. Only a hole in the ground.... >:(
I do cross pollinate the one I have, and I got some seeds last year (not yet garminated). The problem is that I swap pollen with a friend in Sweden, and this year his plant was much earlier than mine. So this year it is self pollinated.
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Geir, that is so sad, and no comfort at all that the thief had good taste. I wish you well with your pollinating. How do you and your Swedish friend get pollen to each other?
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Long distance bees? Pollen can be frozen too.
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Lesley
Normally I get the pollen by post, I usually have it here the day after he sent it.
Some picures from my morning walk in the garden.
1 Iris paradoxa ssp. paradoxa
2 Iris taurica
3 Iris lacustris x gracilipes
4 Primula tangutica (that plant is easier to grow than to photograph)
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Here is a picture of a nomocharis seedling taken in the garden this morning
Rob
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Rob
Nice flower....... At the moment the Nomocharis is about 5 cm high in my garden. But NOW the summer has arrived. Extremely hot yesterday, and it seems to be just as hot to day. Some of the plants just couldn't stand the sudden heat, so I had to chill them off during the day.
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Nomocharis are one of our favourite plants, so pretty. We have some Lilium mackliniae out now, but no nomocharis as yet.
No L. soulei flowers this year...we lost older plants, now only babies meantime.
Geir, your Iris seem to be doing very well... I love to see them. Primula tangutica is one I am very fond of, it is worth the effort to make its photo!
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Geir. Primula tangutica is suddenly my favourite primula. Do you get seeds, and if so, could I "borrow" some from you?
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Anthony
I have two plants of this Primula, so it might be some seeds. And if so; Yes, you might borrow some.
Geir
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Nigritella nigra in my garden (435m)- a difficult plant in our gardens. Smells well of chocolate. It normally grows at 1900m in the Upper Austrian Alps.
Hans
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Lesley,
In the European high mountains we find two leontopodium species.
Leontopodium alpinum) in the Karpaten, parts of the Balkan Peninsula, Alps and the Pyrenees’s. This variable species can be found on limestone rocks, screes and rocky lawns at 2000 - 2900 m altitude. The flowers can grow to a size of 3 - 20 cm
Leontopodium nivale syn. L. alpinum var crassence grows in the Abruzzi and on the Balkan Peninsula. This variable species can be found on limestone rock. The flowers can grow to a size of 3 - 10 cm
Look at the picture of Leontopodium on my web page.
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Hello!
some flowers that I have now.
Everything of good
Jorge
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Geir, I should have been more specific. I assumed by post, but how do you pack it, ready to post? In a small plastic bag or some kind of container? I imagine the little hard cases one buys with a new SD card would be suitable, but are they available empty? And do you enclose it in something such as foil or clingfilm?
How do you train your bees Anthony? Do you have to take them on a visit to a suitable garden then train them to "home." like pigeons? ;D
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Thank you Franz for the information and the lovely pictures on your website. As you say, the edelweiss varies quite a lot, doesn't it. The Lonza form is especially nice. I was also pleased to see Conandron ramondioides again. I used to have it but summer drought killed it.
Geir, your irises are beautiful but may I question the I. lacustris please. I doubt if it has any gracilipes blood in it. It looks exactly like straight lacustris, a super plant and yours is particularly fine.
I ordered I. taurica from the AGS seedlist in the summer and expected a juno (I. persica v. taurica or tauri) but the seedlings are obviously of a beared iris. I'll be very happy if they turn out to be like yours.
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Hi Lesley
The pollen are sent in small plastic containers, and we use this small water tubes you can get to stick on a single flower (often a rose) to support it with water. It has a tiny hole in it as well.
I agree that my Iris lacustris x gracilis looks like a pure Iris lacustris. But I got it from a nursery that said they had made this cross between this two species. The Iris taurica is synonym with Iris pumila ssp. taurica. Even if it is not a Juno it's still a great plant.
One more picture this morning; Paris incompleta
Geir
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Another nomocharis seedling has opened today.
It is not as pretty as the one I showed yesterday, but I thought I'd post a picture just to show the variation.
Rob
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All Nomocharis are beautiful! They can't help it, it's a talent!
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Here's Saxifraga longifolia 'Tumbling Waters' today.
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Here's Saxifraga longifolia 'Tumbling Waters' today.
NICE! I must have a crack at that.
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All Nomocharis are beautiful! They can't help it, it's a talent!
Are they safe to leave in the ground all winter, or best dried out??
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I leave my nomocharis in a raised bed outside all year.
Rob
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Rob, if you can I can ;D
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Our Nomocharis live outside all the time, planted in the garden or, the babies, growing on in fishbox troughs.
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Our Nomocharis live outside all the time, planted in the garden or, the babies, growing on in fishbox troughs.
Ah! but you bask in an enviable climate ;)
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Fantastic pics everyone, in all the various threads. Geir that Lilium at the start is stunning, but the story about it is horrendous. I just don't understand some people!! Anthony that Sax is just amazing, to put it mildly.
I have no hope of catching up with all that I have missed in the last couple of months so if there are any in particular that I should catch up with please email me to let me know. Hopefully now with the recent change in medication I might be able to come back up here and visit regularly again. I've been missing you all.
Thanks again for all the wonderful pics everyone.
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Must welcome you back Paul (before I go...if you see what I mean)....your wit and wisdom has been missed.
Take care my mate.
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I'll drink to that. Welcome back Paul. I hear the rains have finally arrived? Lets hope Cliff doesn't need Bicycle-repair-man on his adventure. 8)
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Anthony,
Hmm.... perhaps that is overstating it a tad. We have had some rain Yes, but not that much, and not NEARLY enough. As of the 1st of July we go to the next stage of water restrictions...... no outside watering using mains water!! :o Only recycled water from showers etc and tank water can be used outside. If we get HEAPS of rain this month they might give us a reprieve for a month to see whether we get more in July, but otherwise we're definitely in trouble. I have 3 small tanks put in (total of 3000 litres, which is WAY better than nothing) so I should be able to keep the rarer things alive using that and recycling washing and shower water etc. Not looking forward to all the watering can work at all. Might be the last time I see a few of my little treasures, that is for sure!! I'll keep the really precious things alive though I think!! 8)
Moaning aside..... thanks to both yourself and Cliff for the welcome back. ;D
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Welcome home (back) from me too Paul. I hope the better medication lives up to expectations.
We've had a little rain too, about 15mm Saturday and yesterday. Not enough but a help. The weeds have loved a good refreshment ???
David, what no-one has said, though perhaps it was self evident - Nomocharis MUST NOT be dried out. They like a cool, moist soil even when dormant. Otherwise they will shrivel and die very quickly.
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Hello again everyone.
Another long absence from the forum, but now that I have a new camera (Olympus SP-550UZ), I hope to be able to send more photos.
Here are some taken in my garden in the past two days.
I would be grateful if anyone can name the lily. It was in the garden when we moved in, 11 years ago.
Lawrence, Northampton, UK
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Nice pictures Lawrence, the new camera is working well! I particularly liked the Iris forrestii and the Diplarrena moraea.
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My Nomocharis is over yet the Young's arent showing so far.
Here's an assortment from my wee patch
Edraianthus ?graminifolius
unknown Daphne
Iris clarkei
Primula luteola
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Lawrence welcome back. I often think of you as my little plants of your woolly Salvia continue to develop. They have come though the weekend's snow and ice and now frost very well but I think I'll move them to a more sheltered spot all the same, for safety's sake.
Nice Iris Mark but not I. clarkei which is very tall (up to 1.5 metres if very happy), blue and invariably with a yellow butterfly-shaped patch on the fall. There is also lots of veining and stitching in that area as well. It is the parent of many hybrids and virtually all have the butterfly patch. I'd say yours could be a form or hybrid of I. sibirica but hard to tell without seeing the whole plant. I. clarkei is in that same group but quite distinct.
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On second thoughts, it could be a white form of I. setosa. That has almost no standards except for small, bristle-like things. Your pic shows style arms and falls but I can't see standards.
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it doesnt have any standards. It was bought as I. clarkei.
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Lawrence,
Wonderful photographs.
Your Verbascum 'Letitia' is a wonderful plant. I am comparing it to my miserable specimen growing in the garden. Pot culture certainly seems to suit it.
Paddy
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The first of my Disa Orchids, Derek Shaw.
Lilium Hansonii.
Nomocharis aperta ?
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Sorry pushed the wrong thing,try again.
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Dact. fuchsii and Rotes Waldvöglein (Ceph. rubra).
Hans
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last call for entries to the competition to win a book.... see this page:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=248.0
Extended entry time expires at 8am UK time Tuesday 12th June!
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Dact. fuchsii and Rotes Waldvöglein (Ceph. rubra).
Hans
Hi Hans, the orchids grow in your garden our in the forrest nearby?
brgds
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The Orchids grow just behind my house in the forrest and around the hiking trail or the main road. So I have sometimes seedlings in my garden (between the Cyps). My cottage house with garden is in the paradise.
Hans
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Hans, you lucky guy!
I agree - Paradise... ;D
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Here are some pictures of presently flowering Saxifraga longifolia in my troughs. The flowering stems are 40 and 60 cm long.
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Franz
Lovely saxifraga. I have to wait until next year to see mine in flower. I was a bit lazy a couple of years and did not keep them going on by sowing.
I have a Caltha palustris. flowering in my garden now. Are there anyone that could support me with some more information about this plant (picture below). All I know is that I got it from China (Chenyi) seven years ago or so, under the name Caltha palustris var.
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Geir
that's a very attractive flower for a Caltha!
Do let us know if it sets seed!
I'll check with soem of our local group members who's also imported plants from China to see if they got it as well.
cheers
fermi
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Those are magnificent saxifrages Franz. I hope my young ones grow to flower so well.
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Hi Geir,
Stunning picture! I once had Caltha palustris var. barthei from Chenyi, which is described to have red flowers. Maybe this is your variety. A poor grower here in Germany. I never saw the flowers.
Gerd Knoche
Solingen, Germany
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Geir,
I got a Caltha from chenyi, it has red flowers but is not nearly as good as yours. The flowers are small and so dark red they are hardly seen. Yours is a particular good one, I remember hearing a talk by Kenneth Cox and he showed a plant like yours in the wild, I don't think he had a name for it either. On Magnar Aspakers website he shows Caltha palustris var. barthei but it is more like the one I got than yours. Mybe I should move mine to a damper site it might do better but it won't change the colour :(
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Hi again
Gerd
I also have the Caltha palustris barthei, but that plant is quite different in the flowers (I'll try to look up a picture later). Caltha palustris barthei are as you said red all over the flower, but the color is more rusty red. I know of several other peoples that ordered the same plant as the one I showed in my picture, but they all turned out to be regular yellow. According to the description in her list, it was supposed to be yellow with red center just like mine.
Fermi
It normally sets seeds, but it is growing among other Caltha species so there might be a cross. But maybe someone find it interesting to give them chance. I propagate this plant by division.
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Susan
I agree with you, I do not find the Caltha palustris barthei a very ornamental plant, I think "interresting" is a more corrct description.... ;D
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Should you have any spare divisions, in due course, of that delicious caltha I'd be very interested in trying it Geir. It is really quite sumptuous. 8)
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Raining all day again today. So postings some flowers from earlier in the week.
Papaver burseri first to flower from this years seed exchanges.
Erodium in new rock bed.
Helianthemum any ideas of the name?
Candelabra primula
Primula vialli flower
Rhodoypoxis
Rose 'Graham Thomas'
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Hello, Mick, not raining here.... yet!
I am interested to see those rock "cores" you are using as edging material in your gravel bed....we are familiar with those in granite up here... they are cores cut from granite plinths for gravestones to allow a flower container.... are yours of a similar origin?
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Hi Maggie, Mick's cores are exaxtly that.
They are a by product from construction projects when concrete floors are drilled to accomodate pipework.
Diamond Drilling does a lot of this work in the north east and if you asked them nicely they could probably provide you with loads of these.
They are usually left lying about the site for people to trip over.
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They are 'cores' but from the concrete floor in the factory where I work.
They were drilled out of the floor to put foundation bolts in for some new machinery we had installed. I thought they would make an interesting and different edging for the beds, so I rescued them from the skip.
Exactly where they are from Ian, but an engineering factory in Sheffield.
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The aggregate in Mick's cores makes them almost as pretty as granite ones! Here is what Ian has done with a red granite core in our garden...
Core carved into ball
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Core used as "thinking stone"
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Shown with another smaller " thought" in background
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The Orientals have these "thinking stones" as meditation focus points in their gardens, as I understand it... in Aberdeen, while we may contemplate a good deal, we also have a very practical bent, so this particular thinking stone lifts up to reveal the socket for a rotary clothes dryer!
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Nice pictures, everyone.
These photos were all taken during the past few days in my garden and cold greenhouse.
THe Epiphyllum survived there all winter.
The Dianthus is from a an RGS seed distribution about twenty years ago.
Bergeranthus glenensis
Delosperma album
Dianthus Seedling
Epiphyllum hybrid
Epiphyllum hybrid 2
Iris chrysographes
Ourisia x bitternensis 'Cliftonville Roset'
Ranunculus lingua
Sisyrinchium macrocarpon
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A lot of flowers in the garden.
abronia fragrans
adlumia asiatica
adlumia asiatica
arisaema taiwanense
cistus albanicus
convolvulus boissieri
cypripedium_mikael
gladiolus longicollis
gladiolus longicollis
lupinus lepidus v. lobbii
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Some more.
polygonatum prattii
plantago patagonica
ramonda myconii
scorsonera superosa
stachys corsica
smilacina_sp_
smilacina_sp_2
smilacina_sp_3
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Here is Physoplexis comosa in a trough with tufa and a seedling Dactylorhiza purpurella that turned up in another trough a couple of years ago.
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An Austrian Lilium martagon and Arisaema ???
Hans
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lovely plants everyone. You have been very busy in my absence.
Very exciting in my garden today are the first flowers of Dianthus 'Elizabethan' - Maggi I hope your cuttings are flowering too. The colour is true in the photo
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Cracking pics of the arisaema Hans.
I planted some new arisaemas on thursday.
I checked them today and the birds had been pulling some up by the nose and slugs had been at a couple of them.
I had been planting them shallow as advised.
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Gorgeous little dianthus Mark ! Love it !
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Not TOO shallow though Ian. I'd put the top of the nose about 4cms under the surface.
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Here some pics from my garden today :
Aeonium black ( I have this plant since long time in cultivation)
Lilium regale
Lantana camara ( or a hybrid )
Pelargonium tetragonum
Scadoxus multiflorus
Greetings
Hans
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Hans, is the Lanatana growing outside in the garden all year?
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Hi Maggi ,
No - it is in a pot - here is it told cold for this plant .
In this time many butterflies visit this plants - beautiful !
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2 pics of Impations namchabarwensis - unfortunately it seems to be an annual but easily growing from seeds (if you are able to catch the grains).
Hans, nice pictures from your garden!
Gerd Knoche
Solingen, Germany
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That's a really nice colour Gerd, a good change from the usuals pinks and reds.
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Luc the 'small' flowered Dianthus has flowers 5cm across - just short of 2 inches
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oops - well Mark, that only makes it even more spectacular now doesn't it ? :o
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close shots never show the true size of flowers
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Sorry for the long silence
One day I will also send some pics but I plead lack of time today.
Geir,
Have you tried the online Flora of China? It is formidable but the number of Calthas is not great.
I once had a garden club visit my garden. It happened to me too. Since then, I do not allow any groups whatsoever,
This does not mean that I hate visitors. An SRGC member is welcome at any time. Especially if he volunteers to some weeding ;)
BuddyM.
Your Lily is probably some form of L dauricum. I assume that the leaves are scattered and there are no brown bulils. There are a lot of hybrids around with this shape and colour but this one has a feeling of a species.
At last our drought is over.
Göte
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here you go Luc - and everyone else
I bought a new Dianthus last week D. 'Lion Heart'. The label says strongly scented but it's nothing special
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Some June pictures below. I'd appreciate if anyone could help me ID the last Meconopsis, I received it as forrestii, but it doesn't match the description :)
Geranium delavayi
Nomocharis saluenensis, weird color form
Papaver 'Brooklyn'
Meconopsis lancifolia
Cypripedium flavum
Nomocharis sp.
Meconopsis "forrestii"
Intersect. peony 'First Arrival'
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Hi Mark,
I love that dark-centre on the dianthus! I also got a plant of "Lion Heart" recently so it must've had a "worldwide" release!
Nice to see some summer flowers as we sink into winter down here!
cheers
fermi
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Thank you, Göte for your information on the Lily.
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Today is rain and a good time to send some new pics from the last days :
Cyrtanthus smithiae ( thanks Gerd )
Pelargonium spec. ( has anyone a idea ? )
Zephyranthes spec. Monteros / Argentina
Greetings
Hans
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Pelargonium inquinans
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Some new flowers from today :
Hippeastrum spec. Bolivia
Rhodophiala chilense ( from a nice SRGC member )
Zephyranthes spec.Cebilar / Argentina
Greetings 8)
Hans
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Gentiana hexaphylla (closed and open), Leontopodium from Austria and Arisama fargesii with tall leaves (larger than 50 cm).
Because the unusual weather conditions here in Austria (temperatures between 34°C and 5°C) Cyclamen europaeum is flowering since 4 weeks!
Hans
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That is a beautiful arisaema, I hope that mine look as good when they flower.
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I have taken a picture of the first Michauxia campanuloides bud to open. I collected seeds of this plant in Turkey in 2004, and planted it in the garden in 2005. I wonder if there are any suitable pollinators in Sweden.
All the best,
PaulM
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A very unusual plant, Paul, and a good photograph.
Here are some photographs taken this morning in my garden.
Oxalis 'Ione Hecker'
Two pictures of a pink Epiphyllum hybrid which has survived all winter in a cold greenhouse.
Campanula takesimana
Lilium regale grown in a large pot.
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My latest Disa to bloom,the sepal is lighter than it looks.
Disa uniflora alba.
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Anyone know what this chinese cremanthodium is? Flowering now
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oh c'mon Susan! dont we get to see a bigger photo of the flowers?
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Derek I see Disas at the shows. Are they really easy?
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here you go mark, a closer photos of the flowers.
Also a lovely ariseama standing at over 1 metre tall.
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Some photos from my garden this month:
(http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/phlox_bifida_173.jpg)
Phlox bifida
(http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/geranium_nanum__597.jpg)
Geranium nanum
(http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/lilium_lophophorum__104.jpg)
Lilium lophophorum
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Different Nomocharis:
(http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/nomocharis_aperta_212.jpg)
(http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/nomocharis_forrestii_910.jpg)
(http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/nomocharis_pardantina_f_pun_159.jpg)
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Oxalis:
(http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/oxalis_annette_148.jpg)
Oxalis Annette
(http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/oxalis_ennephylla_alba_239.jpg)
Oxalis enneaphylla alba
(http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/oxalis_ute_138.jpg)
Oxalsi Ute
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Nice Arisaema Susan, what variety is it?
Susan, your arisaema looks like it is planted in the open, what with me being a newbie, I thought that they had to be in part shade.
Magnar, I really like your Nomocharis.
I should stop looking at this website, I feel a spending spree coming on again.
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Magnar how big/small is Geranium nanum?
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Ian Scotland IS in shade.
Susan's arisaema looks like a form of A. consanguineum to me.
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Ian, my garden is a nice wee suntrap.
I know the weather at home hasn't been that great, but we do get sun sometimes!
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Magnar how big/small is Geranium nanum?
My plant in the gravel bed is only about 5 cm tall
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My Geranium nanum are just a wee bit taller than Magnar's...and have a very pleasing dense, compact habit--almost like a little shrublet (is that redundant?). Flowering (also happening now) is sparse, but this is their first year in the ground, and they may have a bit more shade than is ideal.
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Another Lilium lophophorum opened today. Notice the brown spotted flower.
(http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/lilium_lophophorum_var_119.jpg)
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Another Lilium lophophorum opened today. Notice the brown spotted flower./quote]
That is a really nice Lilium.
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I agree Susan's arisaema looks like consanguineum. I also have this species from the ACE expedition in 1994. They grow to about a metre tall, which is embarrassing considering the size of the shrub I planted them under! The seedheads are huge and the tubers enormous - this is a photo of one of them in 2001.
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Anne are you sure that isnt a turnip
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Yes the Ariseama is consanguineum, but what is the Cremanthodium? :)
Ian, all my plants have to survive out in the open as they are field grown including my primulas. I agree with Ian Young, Scotland is relativly in the shade(cool) when you compare it with other European countries. As long as they have plently of water and their roots are kept cool with a mulch they do okay in most summers. The key is that the nights are cool and let the plants recover and take in water over night. There is no competition for water with the field grown plants as they are all spaced out in rows. The wind is the problem for taller growing species.
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It didn't taste like a turnip....
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Just before we went on holiday, two of the daffodils I bought from Keira bulbs in Australia came into flower. They are real cuties, Second Fiddle is about 2.5cm long, and KS/M/1/2007 (catchy name) is about 2cm max. Both about 8cm tall.
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very nice. I like the second one
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Some photos from my garden and the near wood
Campanula coch.
Gymnadenia conopsea
Epipactis atrorubens
A poor Camp. zoysii
Gentiana cruciata
Camp. ??
Hans
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I know it's July, but these flowered for my the last few weeks in June
1) Dianthus 'Eileen Lever'
2) Campanula nitida
3) Campanula nitida alba
4) Lilium formosanum 'Pricei' - giant flowers on such a small stem
5) Platicodon 'Appoyama'
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The above dianthus reminds me of two photographs taken three and two weeks ago. I have a rabbit in the garden. One pic is 'A.R.' (anti-rabbit) and the other 'P.R.'
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Johannes,
I think it is Campanula troegerae.
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The above dianthus reminds me of two photographs taken three and two weeks ago. I have a rabbit in the garden. One pic is 'A.R.' (anti-rabbit) and the other 'P.R.'
Or even ante-rabbit - though Heaven knows, I'm anti-rabbit myself! (I couldn't disappoint you Anthony :D)
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Aw shucks - was trying to mix my metaphors, as the second pic really makes me anti-rabbit. The last rabbit that dared to invade my garden 'lept' into my pond, assisted by a large round pebble. This one is rather more clever.
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Anthony, Stones are not a lot of good with Rabits 12 Bore is permanent.
Derek
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the back and back legs make good eating too
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Cooked with red wine of course.
Sorry Anthony, I should have picked up on a very neat little pun.