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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #660 on: May 03, 2020, 05:34:43 PM »
Crocus laevigatus JJA.347.241 from Wim Boens

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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #661 on: May 03, 2020, 05:35:54 PM »
Narcissus named for  Jim Cartledge  Archibald ..... Narcissus 'Cartledge' -  from the  Wallises

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 "Narcissus bulbocodium X ?triandrus - a hybrid we found in the greenhouse plunge in Jim Archibald's greenhouse. We have called it 'Cartledge' in memory of the great plantsman"
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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #662 on: May 04, 2020, 04:55:56 PM »
Another plant with Archibald connections .... this time grown by Bob Nold in Colorado - Bellevalia forniculata JJA 227.770
From an Archibald collection near Erzurum, Turkey.

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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #663 on: May 05, 2020, 11:31:34 AM »
 Iris kirkwoodii 590.256 from George  Young  - seed from Archibald  list- collected  by R. and  R .Wallis   in Syria.




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left to right of I. paradoxa, I kirkwoodii and I hoogiana
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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #664 on: May 05, 2020, 01:04:59 PM »
From Jim Jermyn at Branklyn Garden, Perth :  "A Balkan favourite, Ramonda nathaliae seen here in its Jim and Jenny Archibald introduction. It flowers several weeks before its Pyrenean cousin here at Branklyn."

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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #665 on: May 12, 2020, 09:34:55 PM »
Two different clones of Paeonia rockii raised from JJA 4.581.500 seed. The second form has only the faintest trace of maroon at the base of each petal.



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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #666 on: May 12, 2020, 10:48:12 PM »
Two different clones of Paeonia rockii raised from JJA 4.581.500 seed.
Lovely flowers Steve and I'm usually happy to just admire the flowers without worrying about the names but just wondered... Rockii and the Gansu Mudan cultivars with rockii blood usually have the white sheath as with your first picture. The plant in the second picture has a deep pink sheath around the carpels which is more characteristic of plants called P. ostii (or White Phoenix etc.). Unfortunately my copy of Hong's monograph is still deep within a packing box somewhere but perhaps someone else will comment?
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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #667 on: May 13, 2020, 09:32:46 AM »
Thanks Gail.
I see what you mean regarding the carpel sheath covering.

Looking back over faded labels and seed purchase records both of these plants were raised from seed bought in August 1997 from the Archibalds. There were five seeds of which three germinated (in 2000). One succumbed early on and the remaining two languished in pots for years before being planted out. Both were nearly lost as a result of severe damage during landscaping work in the garden in 2007 and again both nearly died when more recent work was done to install decking. They are definitely the original seed-raised plants.

The original description of this seed in the August 1997 list states: “No (intellligible) data, 1996, wild-collected Chinese seed of this mythical Tree-peony. ...... There would appear to be some variation in foliage between wild colonies but the huge flowers “refulgent as pure snow and fragrant as heavenly roses” are always “with a heart of gold, each stainless petal flamed at the base with a clean and definite feathered blotch of maroon”.

But in the March 1998 list the seed description states “Wild-collected Chinese seed of this  mythical Tree-peony -but don’t hold your breath -one Australian grower has already flowered a seedling from seed sown in 1996 (How do these people do this so quickly?) and there was no blotch on the flowers ...”

I suspect that the original source of this seed must have included rockii and another species (or hybrid) -possibly with ostii blood as you suggest.
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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #668 on: May 26, 2020, 11:36:43 AM »
Janis Ruksans has  this  plant  from Archibald  seed  as "Solaria sp. from Lagunilla" - he  was  doubtful of  this - and  John Watson in Chile  has  confirmed that  this  is Tristagma nivale

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Tristagma nivale


John writes: " The one and only Tristagma nivale. Long perianth tube, and flowers with backcurved tepals. It's green as here, or occasionally brown, never white. And yes, it grows at Lagunillas where it was one of the first Andeans we came on in 1971 Nice photo too. Congats to Janis for maintaining in cultivation. Hope he manages to spread it around a bit. I'm attaching one taken here by Anita 18 years ago on a southern volcano."

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Tristagma nivaleVolcán Llaima, Chile. (19 Dec 2002. Anita Flores Watson )
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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #669 on: May 27, 2020, 07:50:38 AM »
Another one Tristagma grown as Tristagma sp. Valle Nevado from Archibald's seeds. Is it sessile, how it is listed now in his "Master List"?
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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #670 on: May 27, 2020, 10:29:36 AM »
This is my Tristagma nivale, which I grew from F&W 10284 in 2002, and which flowered unexpectedly in 2016.  Sadly I lost it after flowering. 

The second plant is one I grew from AGS seed in 2008 as Tristagma sessile, and which I imagine is a descendant of the of the original collection.  But I believe that name is not valid, and I have not worked out what this should be called.
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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #671 on: May 27, 2020, 11:31:35 AM »
Another one Tristagma grown as Tristagma sp. Valle Nevado from Archibald's seeds. Is it sessile, how it is listed now in his "Master List"?

Here is  a  screengrab of  page  237  of the  Archibald  master list
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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #672 on: May 27, 2020, 12:50:15 PM »
This seems to be called Ipheion sessile now, but there's a lot of confusion.  In a 2016 paper on tristagma taxonomy which includes a key, the authors say that 'In our opinion, Tristagma leichtlinii is similar to Ipheion sessile (Philippi) (1858: 72) Traub (1953: 69) but the name is applied incorrectly by some Chilean botanists for Tristagma bivalve.' 

Meanwhile, plants from seed I received as TT. sessile & bivalve (neither under JJA numbers) look very similar or identical :-\
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Re: Pictures of plants you are growing from Archibald seed
« Reply #673 on: May 27, 2020, 01:37:14 PM »
Hi Ashley
The problem is that there is other material well established in cultivation under the name Ipheion sessile (formerly Tristagma recurvifolium), which is significantly different in appearance and in behaviour (flowers in November for me, rather than March when the Tristagma sessile does).
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« Reply #674 on: May 27, 2020, 02:49:14 PM »
Agreed Jon; that is distinctly different. 
Then is your AGS plant above (& perhaps both mine, also similar but vigorous & seed profusely) most likely to be T. bivalve?
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