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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #105 on: February 09, 2012, 06:01:37 PM »
I only have species & I find that they increase vegetatively at a rate which is good enough for me though perhaps not for anyone with a commercial interest. They do hybridise readily & some of the hybrids are attractive.

I'm glad to hear. I recall reading somewhere (Blanchard book?) that most species other than the sections Pseudonarcissus and Narcissus are hard to propagate vegetatively. I couldn't imagine how one could keep a certain species/cultivar going without introgression...
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #106 on: February 09, 2012, 06:34:37 PM »
I only have species & I find that they increase vegetatively at a rate which is good enough for me though perhaps not for anyone with a commercial interest. They do hybridise readily & some of the hybrids are attractive.

I'm glad to hear. I recall reading somewhere (Blanchard book?) that most species other than the sections Pseudonarcissus and Narcissus are hard to propagate vegetatively. I couldn't imagine how one could keep a certain species/cultivar going without introgression...

Hans - I've just looked at Blanchard & he does say this about "many species..... Exceptions include N. cantabricus & N. romieuxii." (p21).
My experience is restricted to sections Jonquillae, Apodanthe, Bulbocodium & Pseudonarcissus. Blanchard has had far more experience than me so his claim may well be true of the other sections. Ganymedes I cannot grow & I've never tried the others.
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #107 on: February 11, 2012, 05:15:18 PM »
Narcissus    cordubensis      
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #108 on: February 11, 2012, 05:51:06 PM »
That is very very nice.

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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #109 on: February 11, 2012, 08:44:30 PM »
I only have species & I find that they increase vegetatively at a rate which is good enough for me though perhaps not for anyone with a commercial interest. They do hybridise readily & some of the hybrids are attractive.

I'm glad to hear. I recall reading somewhere (Blanchard book?) that most species other than the sections Pseudonarcissus and Narcissus are hard to propagate vegetatively. I couldn't imagine how one could keep a certain species/cultivar going without introgression...

Hans - I've just looked at Blanchard & he does say this about "many species..... Exceptions include N. cantabricus & N. romieuxii." (p21).
My experience is restricted to sections Jonquillae, Apodanthe, Bulbocodium & Pseudonarcissus. Blanchard has had far more experience than me so his claim may well be true of the other sections. Ganymedes I cannot grow & I've never tried the others.


Yes, that is correct. But "exceptions include"suggests that there are more species which divide well. At least I know that N. pseud. pseud, and N. bulbocodium divide very well. There must be more but I find it hard to find information. Besides, all my species (belonging to several sections) are still one/two years old so it takes a few years to know if they divide well. I guess most of them do, except for N. serotinus and the like?
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #110 on: February 12, 2012, 08:40:50 PM »
With some sage advice from Ian here is a much clearer image of Narcissus cordubensis.
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #111 on: February 12, 2012, 08:42:20 PM »
very, very, very nice!

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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #112 on: February 12, 2012, 08:56:46 PM »
Cracker Arnold. Did you use the "finger" test? (ie. focus on your finger close to the plant?)
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #113 on: February 12, 2012, 09:50:59 PM »
David:

Yes, Ian explained the "finger" test and it worked well.

I think I may be trying to get too close to capture the interior of the flower.  I backed off a bit and it was better.
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #114 on: February 12, 2012, 10:06:45 PM »
I thought you meant that Ian was now growing Salvias. ;D
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #115 on: February 12, 2012, 11:03:57 PM »
Lesley:

After i typed it I thought.  Someone will think this has to do with with making pasta sauce.
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #116 on: February 12, 2012, 11:53:39 PM »
 :P ;D
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #117 on: February 13, 2012, 12:11:38 AM »
Narcissus calcicola
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #118 on: February 13, 2012, 09:58:58 AM »
Arnold - you are having a good narcissus season, & an early one too (by UK standards).
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Re: Winter Narcissus - to early 2012
« Reply #119 on: February 13, 2012, 10:51:17 AM »
........ whilst you and I are having a shocker Gerry :'(
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