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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2011, 11:22:41 AM »
Peter,

that would be great.  I'll PM my addy.  Fingers crossed that it takes!  I suspect Speckled Bird is a triploid (I've not yet counted it), but it may well be an aneuploid.

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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2011, 01:14:07 PM »
Peter,

that would be great.  I'll PM my addy.  Fingers crossed that it takes!  I suspect Speckled Bird is a triploid (I've not yet counted it), but it may well be an aneuploid.

J.

Hi Jamie, 'Speckled Bird', unless its parentage is inaccurate, would certainly be an unbalanced tetraploid of the Mohr type (ATTT). Fertility extremely limited, if any.

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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2011, 02:30:17 PM »
Tom,

what is the parentage?  It is no longer listed as an arilbred for what ever reason.  If it is an ATTT, then it should be eligible.  In any case, I have a knack for finding the right parent to many of these unbalanced tetraploids, often using a species or a pumila-aril-bearded.  You just have to hold you tongue just right and wink but the left eye...just a bit.  ;D
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2011, 12:57:24 PM »
Here are some from Friday, pics not the best.  Wind blew 30 to 60 mile an hour all day.

John

Bagdad's Folly
Burra Sahib
Nordic Sky
Jonnye's Magic
Saracen Cinnamon
Thabor
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2011, 02:35:31 PM »
Hi Jamie - Speckled Bird is Tiffany x Capitola (TTTT x AATT). Although a quarterbred by parentage, the hybridizer, Crandall, chose to register it as a TB, perhaps because he felt it lacked sufficient aril characteristics. Good luck hybridizing with it - sometimes the "not supposed to be fertile" types can be helpful in widening the gene pool.
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2011, 02:50:01 PM »
Exactly right Tom. I am growing a seedling of Ed Pickin's that is "Turkish Topaz x At the Threshold".
Turkish Topaz has never  been fertile for anyone but Ed had not heard this ;D

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Hi Jamie - Speckled Bird is Tiffany x Capitola (TTTT x AATT). Although a quarterbred by parentage, the hybridizer, Crandall, chose to register it as a TB, perhaps because he felt it lacked sufficient aril characteristics. Good luck hybridizing with it - sometimes the "not supposed to be fertile" types can be helpful in widening the gene pool.
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2011, 02:55:23 PM »
Some from today.

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Almost Apricot
Desert Finery
Refiners Fire and Byzantine Ruby
Onlooker
Sheik
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2011, 07:04:46 PM »
Some more.

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Byzantine Art.
Esther the Queen
I. stolonifera Network
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2011, 11:58:13 PM »
Exactly right Tom. I am growing a seedling of Ed Pickin's that is "Turkish Topaz x At the Threshold".
Turkish Topaz has never  been fertile for anyone but Ed had not heard this ;D

Thanks for sharing this, John. I ordered some plants of 'Turkish Topaz' this year with the intention of hybridizing with it. It's a bit of a mystery to me. It is registered as a regelia hybrid from a cross of "two stolonifera seedlings". Of course, "stolonifera seedling" need not mean pure stolonifera, and most people seem to think of it as an RB+. Oddly, though, it was counted at 43 chromosomes, which makes one think pure stolonifera (44) is a more likely possibility than an arilbred with one or two sets of TB chromosomes, which would make it 45 or 46. And of course it closely resembles I. stolonifera, but more different from the known species clones than those are from one another.
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2011, 02:50:57 AM »
A few more.

John

Gideon's Lamp
Tribute to Rex
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2011, 06:59:59 PM »
Some more.

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Antiope
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Kiosk
Gelee Royale
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2011, 08:56:06 PM »
'Honey Not Tonight' (McAllister 2007)
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2011, 09:18:00 PM »
I am astounded by the variety of blooms shown in this ( and other ) Iris threads..... so many "showgirl flowers" strutting their floral stuff.... the growers equivalent of an expensive lingerie store! You'd wonder there was that much fancy silk in the world, wouldn't you, for I'm sure that's what these blooms are made of!  ;)
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2011, 09:53:19 PM »
I am astounded by the variety of blooms shown in this ( and other ) Iris threads..... so many "showgirl flowers" strutting their floral stuff.... the growers equivalent of an expensive lingerie store! You'd wonder there was that much fancy silk in the world, wouldn't you, for I'm sure that's what these blooms are made of!  ;)

Hi Maggi. Now do you see why I started a separate thread? This is why I am an "arilnut"
You won't find the colors and patterns like the Arils in any other genus of flower.
And I'm not done yet ;D

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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2011, 10:03:40 PM »
Correction to reply #15. Had wrong name on the photo "Frank Rice". It is "Emerald Fantasy".
And a better pic of "Renee".
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