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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2011, 10:33:15 PM »
Thanks Jamie, I'll send you a bit, please remind me. I'm pushed to manage hand pollination on species and have no room or time for playing with the development of advanced hybreds.
It is a bit top branched and the bud count is only 4. I dont know what the aril content is but I would suggest crossing it with at least 50% aril + branching, or else with something with a better branching and bud count in order to back cross to aril blood. All too much for me to take on...
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2011, 01:15:23 AM »
Jamie and Peter, nice to see you posting on this thread.
Here are some from today on a rainy day.

John B

Balalaika Music
Chocolate Mint
Frank Rice
Hakuna Matata
Noble Warrior
Tauris
Violets in Mist
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2011, 04:55:17 AM »
Thankyou John, Glad to see Deloruses 'Violets in Mist' - that did appeal to me but I dont think it was on the overseas list. Tauris looks pretty too - is it one of hers? how are they for substance? also like Frank Rice. Noble Warrior looks like it has substance but not to my taste- too much of a blend.
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2011, 11:21:44 AM »
Hi Peter. Tauris is one of Lawrence Ransom's. These will both be on the overseas list
this year. I have 72 varieties on there this year. Catalog should be out early June.
As for substance, those picture were taken after a day of pretty good rain and
they held up real well.

John
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2011, 04:37:20 PM »
I love these plants!

I cannot contribute much to this thread but this complex unnamed cross from Geoff Wilson has been with me for years and has survived a lot of neglect. It currently resides planted in my bulb frame and does really well. The label says there is some I. camillae in it and it looks like it has some paradoxa too.


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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2011, 04:40:25 PM »
Oh - this one is also from Geoff Wilson and also sans name!

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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2011, 09:40:12 PM »
Thanks John, will look forward to the list  ;)
If you could ever spare a fan each of these Darren I am trying to pool together what there is of Geoffs work now he has stopped breeding. He sent me and a friend the remains of his plants, I think few have been named.
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2011, 11:13:05 PM »
Peter I did not know that Geoff had given up the arils and his breeding. He has not written for a while. He did have internet access for a little while a few years back.
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2011, 10:57:05 AM »
Darren,

those two seedlings are great.  Nice fotos to boot.  I can see I. paradoxa in the first, as well.  It would be interesting to know what the actual parentage is.  I take it, it is diploid.  I hope you will be able to share these with Peter at some point, they both look to be excellent plants.  It would be a shame that this kind of breeding may be lost (we all have accidents, now don't we.  I don't even want to count the things I've killed over the years  :-X ).  I didn't know that Geoff Wilson had stopped tinkering with the arils.

Peter,

Taurus and its sibling Urmia are not always easy to find, un-virused!  I had both, but disposed of them.  I am still looking for a clean source, as the genetics are great for SDB x aril crosses.  I suppose one could maintain virused plants seperate from clean ones, just for hybridising, as virus doesn't necessarily effect their performance or fetility.
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2011, 02:32:03 AM »
Some the last 2 days.
Peter, Violets in mist is by Caroline Chacon.

John

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Damfino
Desert Moonlight
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2011, 02:40:26 AM »
And a few more.      I grow over 215 Arilbred, RC, and species Arils.
In just 3 of my beds I counted 377 stalks.

John

Hannah's Prayer
Mohr Pretender
Penninah's Provocation
Tcha Deetch
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2011, 08:46:08 AM »
Sorry about the slow reply - Safari threw a wobbly yesterday and after fiddling with settings for hours I gave up and switched everything off and back on again - and it worked!

Peter - I will do my best to send you material of both. The brown one bulks up incredibly slowly though and only flowers about every second year. I do have notes about the parentage from Geoff but they are buried in my paperwork somewhere...

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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #42 on: April 29, 2011, 09:18:42 AM »
Thanks Darren,
 I get the impression Geoff was creating onco and onco regelia crosses with a view to back crossing his advanced breeding lines with them. Your first picture would suggest one of these. Your second is nearer to what he was producing in general. I understand his object was then to produce a stockier plant. Some of his later hybreds seem to have bourn this out, flowering with my friend in London.
I am not interested in breeding with them, rather in preserving his work in case someone comes along who would like to continue it.
Thanks John for your correction re Violets in Mist, and more wonderfull pictures.



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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #43 on: April 29, 2011, 10:37:54 AM »
John,

this is great seeing so much of your collection flowering.  I can now plan ahead!  ;D  I will need to get Tekoah again, as it rotted this Spring, while in bud.  >:(  Bummer!  I have flowers coming on Speckled Bird, which I had hoped to cross to a species, but I don't think anything will be flowering.  Anyone have some kirkwoodii pollen to spare?  Or lortetii?
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Re: Arilbred and Regelia/Onco cross iris
« Reply #44 on: April 29, 2011, 10:50:51 AM »
I can post you kikwoodii pollen on monday Jamie
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